Jim Jordan accused of overlooking sexual abuse as Ohio State wrestling coach

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Anonymous wrote:Ahhhh...now the DEEP STATE is being invoked by Jordan's supporters. Of course.

Reading the NY Times, eh?
The author of this hit piece didn’t go into any detail about the likely motivations of his accusers. She glossed over the questionable backgrounds of those screaming the loudest and making accusations against Jordan.
And, if you believe the connection of this case to Perkins Coie is any coincidence, you are simply crazy. Perkins Coie HIRED the company that brought us the Trump dossier. That is not mere coincidence.
Deep state? Nah. But, it is a coordinated effort to try to bring Jordan down. But, it won’t work.

You mean their anger over Jordan not taking their complaints seriously?

PP is likely referring to the other issues: fraudulent use of funds raised by a war widow whose husband was an OSU wrestler; lawsuits against OSU; attacks on Jordan's family because Jordan agreed with the widow, etc.
A history of fraud and jailtime on the part of another accuser, etc.

Because Perkins Coie, ya know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ahhhh...now the DEEP STATE is being invoked by Jordan's supporters. Of course.

Reading the NY Times, eh?
The author of this hit piece didn’t go into any detail about the likely motivations of his accusers. She glossed over the questionable backgrounds of those screaming the loudest and making accusations against Jordan.
And, if you believe the connection of this case to Perkins Coie is any coincidence, you are simply crazy. Perkins Coie HIRED the company that brought us the Trump dossier. That is not mere coincidence.
Deep state? Nah. But, it is a coordinated effort to try to bring Jordan down. But, it won’t work.

You mean their anger over Jordan not taking their complaints seriously?

Oh, he is taking them seriously. And, pointing out their motivations for falsely blaming him instead of actually looking to the people who may have actually been in the know.
The NY Times author also did not reference the threatening emails sent to Jordan by Mike DiSabato.

No, he did not take their complains seriously. That's why these guys are mad, and I don't blame them. You really think Jordan had no idea about what was going on and four wrestlers (and counting) and a former UFC champion are lying? Would you let him supervise your kid's wrestling program?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ahhhh...now the DEEP STATE is being invoked by Jordan's supporters. Of course.

Reading the NY Times, eh?
The author of this hit piece didn’t go into any detail about the likely motivations of his accusers. She glossed over the questionable backgrounds of those screaming the loudest and making accusations against Jordan.
And, if you believe the connection of this case to Perkins Coie is any coincidence, you are simply crazy. Perkins Coie HIRED the company that brought us the Trump dossier. That is not mere coincidence.
Deep state? Nah. But, it is a coordinated effort to try to bring Jordan down. But, it won’t work.

You mean their anger over Jordan not taking their complaints seriously?

Oh, he is taking them seriously. And, pointing out their motivations for falsely blaming him instead of actually looking to the people who may have actually been in the know.
The NY Times author also did not reference the threatening emails sent to Jordan by Mike DiSabato.

No, he did not take their complains seriously. That's why these guys are mad, and I don't blame them. You really think Jordan had no idea about what was going on and four wrestlers (and counting) and a former UFC champion are lying? Would you let him supervise your kid's wrestling program?

I bet you haven’t heard about the wrestlers who are defending Jordan and even questioning whether abuse occurred. Interesting that these allegations come out well after the alleged assailant has died.

George Pardos, who left the Marine Corps to wrestle at Ohio State from 1988 to 1993, said the same. There were always rumors about the doctor who showered with the team, Pardos told me, “but [a] lot of the stories were just running jokes.” Older than most of the other wrestlers because of his time enlisted, Pardos said he served as “an unofficial team captain” and can’t recall hearing a single allegation of abuse.

And while Pardos noted that Jordan “literally carried me” to get medical treatment after an injury and checked another teammate into rehab for drug abuse, the two weren’t exactly best friends. “Let me say this,” he said after a pause during a long phone interview, “me and Jimmy didn’t really get along. He didn’t really like me a lot.”

But while the two “butted heads” over religion and politics, Pardos insisted Jordan was incapable of ignoring abuse. If the assistant coach knew Strauss was abusing students, Pardos tells me, “knowing Jimmy I think he would’ve ripped of his arm and beat him with it.”

Jude Skove agreed albeit in somewhat less violent terms. He wrestled at Ohio State from 1981 to 1986 and would win a Division 1 National Championship one year before Jordan joined the team as assistant coach. During his five years wrestling, including his three as team captain, Skove says none of his teammates “ever came to me and ever expressed any issues or concerns.”

“Strauss was known to be a little weird. He would take two showers in one day, and we’d just laugh it off like ‘really doc?’” Skove recalls. “He’s our team physician, so he’s giving you physicals, and he’s touched you everywhere, doing the cough thing. But he never, just in my experience with my peers, he never crossed a line.”

Skove, who wrestled and trained with Jordan at the East-West tournament when the congressman was a student at the University of Wisconsin, couldn’t imagine Jordan ignoring abuse. “He definitely would’ve represented the wrestlers. From what I know of Jim and his personality, he’s not a flower. He isn’t going to wilt if something’s going on.”

Some like Lee Kemp, a gold-medal Olympian and national champion, argue that accusations are part of campaign to discredit Jordan now that the Ohio Republican is considering a bid for House Speaker. “This doctor worked with other sports teams too,” Kemp told me by phone. “Why pick out Jim? Clearly, this is an attempt to smear him.”

Kemp takes credit for recruiting Jordan to the University of Wisconsin as a student and said in an earlier statement that the idea “Jim would know of abuse of his wrestlers and do nothing is utterly absurd.”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/former-coaches-wrestlers-and-colleagues-rush-to-defend-rep-jim-jordan

A former wrestler is speaking out in support of his former coaches who some say turned a blind eye to sexual abuse.

George Pardos said he has met with the independent investigative team who is interviewing former student athletes and coaches as allegations swirl regarding former team doctor Richard Strauss.

Some athletes have talked about sexual misconduct dating back to the 1970s against Strauss, who killed himself in 2005 and only now is under investigation.
Pardos, who first wrestled in the United States Marines, and then for Ohio State from 1988 to 1993, said he never experienced sexual abuse.
“I have had 20 or so examinations with Strauss over the five years and not one time did he act inappropriately toward me. I had to be in there completely naked. Not one time did he do anything that I could deem inappropriate. If there was abuse, coaches would have had to go to law enforcement.Abuse and inappropriate are two different things,” said Pardos. “Even though there’s some things that might be inappropriate, do they rise to a level of sexual abuse ? I don’t think it did.”

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/former-wrestler-speaks-out-in-support-of-his-former-coaches-during-strauss-investigation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ahhhh...now the DEEP STATE is being invoked by Jordan's supporters. Of course.

Reading the NY Times, eh?
The author of this hit piece didn’t go into any detail about the likely motivations of his accusers. She glossed over the questionable backgrounds of those screaming the loudest and making accusations against Jordan.
And, if you believe the connection of this case to Perkins Coie is any coincidence, you are simply crazy. Perkins Coie HIRED the company that brought us the Trump dossier. That is not mere coincidence.
Deep state? Nah. But, it is a coordinated effort to try to bring Jordan down. But, it won’t work.

You mean their anger over Jordan not taking their complaints seriously?

Oh, he is taking them seriously. And, pointing out their motivations for falsely blaming him instead of actually looking to the people who may have actually been in the know.
The NY Times author also did not reference the threatening emails sent to Jordan by Mike DiSabato.

No, he did not take their complains seriously. That's why these guys are mad, and I don't blame them. You really think Jordan had no idea about what was going on and four wrestlers (and counting) and a former UFC champion are lying? Would you let him supervise your kid's wrestling program?

I bet you haven’t heard about the wrestlers who are defending Jordan and even questioning whether abuse occurred. Interesting that these allegations come out well after the alleged assailant has died.

George Pardos, who left the Marine Corps to wrestle at Ohio State from 1988 to 1993, said the same. There were always rumors about the doctor who showered with the team, Pardos told me, “but [a] lot of the stories were just running jokes.” Older than most of the other wrestlers because of his time enlisted, Pardos said he served as “an unofficial team captain” and can’t recall hearing a single allegation of abuse.

And while Pardos noted that Jordan “literally carried me” to get medical treatment after an injury and checked another teammate into rehab for drug abuse, the two weren’t exactly best friends. “Let me say this,” he said after a pause during a long phone interview, “me and Jimmy didn’t really get along. He didn’t really like me a lot.”

But while the two “butted heads” over religion and politics, Pardos insisted Jordan was incapable of ignoring abuse. If the assistant coach knew Strauss was abusing students, Pardos tells me, “knowing Jimmy I think he would’ve ripped of his arm and beat him with it.”

Jude Skove agreed albeit in somewhat less violent terms. He wrestled at Ohio State from 1981 to 1986 and would win a Division 1 National Championship one year before Jordan joined the team as assistant coach. During his five years wrestling, including his three as team captain, Skove says none of his teammates “ever came to me and ever expressed any issues or concerns.”

“Strauss was known to be a little weird. He would take two showers in one day, and we’d just laugh it off like ‘really doc?’” Skove recalls. “He’s our team physician, so he’s giving you physicals, and he’s touched you everywhere, doing the cough thing. But he never, just in my experience with my peers, he never crossed a line.”

Skove, who wrestled and trained with Jordan at the East-West tournament when the congressman was a student at the University of Wisconsin, couldn’t imagine Jordan ignoring abuse. “He definitely would’ve represented the wrestlers. From what I know of Jim and his personality, he’s not a flower. He isn’t going to wilt if something’s going on.”

Some like Lee Kemp, a gold-medal Olympian and national champion, argue that accusations are part of campaign to discredit Jordan now that the Ohio Republican is considering a bid for House Speaker. “This doctor worked with other sports teams too,” Kemp told me by phone. “Why pick out Jim? Clearly, this is an attempt to smear him.”

Kemp takes credit for recruiting Jordan to the University of Wisconsin as a student and said in an earlier statement that the idea “Jim would know of abuse of his wrestlers and do nothing is utterly absurd.”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/former-coaches-wrestlers-and-colleagues-rush-to-defend-rep-jim-jordan

A former wrestler is speaking out in support of his former coaches who some say turned a blind eye to sexual abuse.

George Pardos said he has met with the independent investigative team who is interviewing former student athletes and coaches as allegations swirl regarding former team doctor Richard Strauss.

Some athletes have talked about sexual misconduct dating back to the 1970s against Strauss, who killed himself in 2005 and only now is under investigation.
Pardos, who first wrestled in the United States Marines, and then for Ohio State from 1988 to 1993, said he never experienced sexual abuse.
“I have had 20 or so examinations with Strauss over the five years and not one time did he act inappropriately toward me. I had to be in there completely naked. Not one time did he do anything that I could deem inappropriate. If there was abuse, coaches would have had to go to law enforcement.Abuse and inappropriate are two different things,” said Pardos. “Even though there’s some things that might be inappropriate, do they rise to a level of sexual abuse ? I don’t think it did.”

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/former-wrestler-speaks-out-in-support-of-his-former-coaches-during-strauss-investigation

Washington Examiner and Sinclair Broadcasting.

[Anonymous]

I just read up on this story. Can someone say if these former male college athletes trying to sue OSU for male on male sexual assault?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ahhhh...now the DEEP STATE is being invoked by Jordan's supporters. Of course.

Reading the NY Times, eh?
The author of this hit piece didn’t go into any detail about the likely motivations of his accusers. She glossed over the questionable backgrounds of those screaming the loudest and making accusations against Jordan.
And, if you believe the connection of this case to Perkins Coie is any coincidence, you are simply crazy. Perkins Coie HIRED the company that brought us the Trump dossier. That is not mere coincidence.
Deep state? Nah. But, it is a coordinated effort to try to bring Jordan down. But, it won’t work.

You mean their anger over Jordan not taking their complaints seriously?

Oh, he is taking them seriously. And, pointing out their motivations for falsely blaming him instead of actually looking to the people who may have actually been in the know.
The NY Times author also did not reference the threatening emails sent to Jordan by Mike DiSabato.

No, he did not take their complains seriously. That's why these guys are mad, and I don't blame them. You really think Jordan had no idea about what was going on and four wrestlers (and counting) and a former UFC champion are lying? Would you let him supervise your kid's wrestling program?

I bet you haven’t heard about the wrestlers who are defending Jordan and even questioning whether abuse occurred. Interesting that these allegations come out well after the alleged assailant has died.

George Pardos, who left the Marine Corps to wrestle at Ohio State from 1988 to 1993, said the same. There were always rumors about the doctor who showered with the team, Pardos told me, “but [a] lot of the stories were just running jokes.” Older than most of the other wrestlers because of his time enlisted, Pardos said he served as “an unofficial team captain” and can’t recall hearing a single allegation of abuse.

And while Pardos noted that Jordan “literally carried me” to get medical treatment after an injury and checked another teammate into rehab for drug abuse, the two weren’t exactly best friends. “Let me say this,” he said after a pause during a long phone interview, “me and Jimmy didn’t really get along. He didn’t really like me a lot.”

But while the two “butted heads” over religion and politics, Pardos insisted Jordan was incapable of ignoring abuse. If the assistant coach knew Strauss was abusing students, Pardos tells me, “knowing Jimmy I think he would’ve ripped of his arm and beat him with it.”

Jude Skove agreed albeit in somewhat less violent terms. He wrestled at Ohio State from 1981 to 1986 and would win a Division 1 National Championship one year before Jordan joined the team as assistant coach. During his five years wrestling, including his three as team captain, Skove says none of his teammates “ever came to me and ever expressed any issues or concerns.”

“Strauss was known to be a little weird. He would take two showers in one day, and we’d just laugh it off like ‘really doc?’” Skove recalls. “He’s our team physician, so he’s giving you physicals, and he’s touched you everywhere, doing the cough thing. But he never, just in my experience with my peers, he never crossed a line.”

Skove, who wrestled and trained with Jordan at the East-West tournament when the congressman was a student at the University of Wisconsin, couldn’t imagine Jordan ignoring abuse. “He definitely would’ve represented the wrestlers. From what I know of Jim and his personality, he’s not a flower. He isn’t going to wilt if something’s going on.”

Some like Lee Kemp, a gold-medal Olympian and national champion, argue that accusations are part of campaign to discredit Jordan now that the Ohio Republican is considering a bid for House Speaker. “This doctor worked with other sports teams too,” Kemp told me by phone. “Why pick out Jim? Clearly, this is an attempt to smear him.”

Kemp takes credit for recruiting Jordan to the University of Wisconsin as a student and said in an earlier statement that the idea “Jim would know of abuse of his wrestlers and do nothing is utterly absurd.”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/former-coaches-wrestlers-and-colleagues-rush-to-defend-rep-jim-jordan

A former wrestler is speaking out in support of his former coaches who some say turned a blind eye to sexual abuse.

George Pardos said he has met with the independent investigative team who is interviewing former student athletes and coaches as allegations swirl regarding former team doctor Richard Strauss.

Some athletes have talked about sexual misconduct dating back to the 1970s against Strauss, who killed himself in 2005 and only now is under investigation.
Pardos, who first wrestled in the United States Marines, and then for Ohio State from 1988 to 1993, said he never experienced sexual abuse.
“I have had 20 or so examinations with Strauss over the five years and not one time did he act inappropriately toward me. I had to be in there completely naked. Not one time did he do anything that I could deem inappropriate. If there was abuse, coaches would have had to go to law enforcement.Abuse and inappropriate are two different things,” said Pardos. “Even though there’s some things that might be inappropriate, do they rise to a level of sexual abuse ? I don’t think it did.”

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/former-wrestler-speaks-out-in-support-of-his-former-coaches-during-strauss-investigation

This

In the other thread the mod conveniently locked, a local newspaper was cited that the doctor worked in at least 8 different teams, student service center, and medical center. Dailymail reported the doctor probably worked at 14 different teams. Jordan was just a young man fresh out of college when the alleged abuse took place. There were probably hundreds above his pay grade - head coaches, athletic directors, university presidents, medical center directors, etc - who would be more responsible for this sort of allegations.

So why picking on Jordan? The other thread "Jordan destroys Comey" started in 2016 hit the nail on the head. Jordan has been a champion for justice. He called out Comey before the election in 2016. He called out Rosenstein last week. He is a thorn in the corrupt media and their support politicans.

[Anonymous]

Just own it. Jordan failed the student athletes. He didn’t want to rock the boat. Took the cowardly way out,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just own it. Jordan failed the student athletes. He didn’t want to rock the boat. Took the cowardly way out,

You may not like Jordan, but “cowardly” is not a word most would use to describe him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just own it. Jordan failed the student athletes. He didn’t want to rock the boat. Took the cowardly way out,

You may not like Jordan, but “cowardly” is not a word most would use to describe him.

DP. I don't like Jordan, but at this point, cowardly is probably the kindest word that can describe his behavior. It's that bad.

[Anonymous]

In the other thread the mod conveniently locked, a local newspaper was cited that the doctor worked in at least 8 different teams, student service center, and medical center. Dailymail reported the doctor probably worked at 14 different teams. Jordan was just a young man fresh out of college when the alleged abuse took place. There were probably hundreds above his pay grade - head coaches, athletic directors, university presidents, medical center directors, etc - who would be more responsible for this sort of allegations.

If there are relevant posts in the Comey thread feel free to copy and paste them here so we can discuss. It was just stupid to have what had become two identical threads on the same issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just own it. Jordan failed the student athletes. He didn’t want to rock the boat. Took the cowardly way out,

You may not like Jordan, but “cowardly” is not a word most would use to describe him.

DP. I don't like Jordan, but at this point, cowardly is probably the kindest word that can describe his behavior. It's that bad.

No, it really isn’t.
He has stated he had no knowledge of any abuse. Several wrestlers have publicly made comments standing behind him, and the ONE person who said he approached Jordan with allegations and someone witnessed this interaction ---- well, surprise, surprise - that person has served time in prison for fraud. Oh, and that witness? He denied witnessing any such interaction.
It’s a bunch of baloney.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just own it. Jordan failed the student athletes. He didn’t want to rock the boat. Took the cowardly way out,

You may not like Jordan, but “cowardly” is not a word most would use to describe him.

DP. I don't like Jordan, but at this point, cowardly is probably the kindest word that can describe his behavior. It's that bad.

No, it really isn’t.
He has stated he had no knowledge of any abuse. Several wrestlers have publicly made comments standing behind him, and the ONE person who said he approached Jordan with allegations and someone witnessed this interaction ---- well, surprise, surprise - that person has served time in prison for fraud. Oh, and that witness? He denied witnessing any such interaction.
It’s a bunch of baloney.

You are igniting at least five other witnesses. Even Jordan said he heard “the locker room talk” but decided not to report. That’s what cowards do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just own it. Jordan failed the student athletes. He didn’t want to rock the boat. Took the cowardly way out,

You may not like Jordan, but “cowardly” is not a word most would use to describe him.

DP. I don't like Jordan, but at this point, cowardly is probably the kindest word that can describe his behavior. It's that bad.

No, it really isn’t.
He has stated he had no knowledge of any abuse. Several wrestlers have publicly made comments standing behind him, and the ONE person who said he approached Jordan with allegations and someone witnessed this interaction ---- well, surprise, surprise - that person has served time in prison for fraud. Oh, and that witness? He denied witnessing any such interaction.
It’s a bunch of baloney.

You are igniting at least five other witnesses. Even Jordan said he heard “the locker room talk” but decided not to report. That’s what cowards do.

*ignoring

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just own it. Jordan failed the student athletes. He didn’t want to rock the boat. Took the cowardly way out,

You may not like Jordan, but “cowardly” is not a word most would use to describe him.

DP. I don't like Jordan, but at this point, cowardly is probably the kindest word that can describe his behavior. It's that bad.

No, it really isn’t.
He has stated he had no knowledge of any abuse. Several wrestlers have publicly made comments standing behind him, and the ONE person who said he approached Jordan with allegations and someone witnessed this interaction ---- well, surprise, surprise - that person has served time in prison for fraud. Oh, and that witness? He denied witnessing any such interaction.
It’s a bunch of baloney.

You are igniting at least five other witnesses. Even Jordan said he heard “the locker room talk” but decided not to report. That’s what cowards do.

*ignoring

That is NOT what Jordan said. Anymore lies to advance?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I bet you haven’t heard about the wrestlers who are defending Jordan and even questioning whether abuse occurred. Interesting that these allegations come out well after the alleged assailant has died.

George Pardos, who left the Marine Corps to wrestle at Ohio State from 1988 to 1993, said the same. There were always rumors about the doctor who showered with the team, Pardos told me, “but [a] lot of the stories were just running jokes.” Older than most of the other wrestlers because of his time enlisted, Pardos said he served as “an unofficial team captain” and can’t recall hearing a single allegation of abuse.

And while Pardos noted that Jordan “literally carried me” to get medical treatment after an injury and checked another teammate into rehab for drug abuse, the two weren’t exactly best friends. “Let me say this,” he said after a pause during a long phone interview, “me and Jimmy didn’t really get along. He didn’t really like me a lot.”

But while the two “butted heads” over religion and politics, Pardos insisted Jordan was incapable of ignoring abuse. If the assistant coach knew Strauss was abusing students, Pardos tells me, “knowing Jimmy I think he would’ve ripped of his arm and beat him with it.”

Jude Skove agreed albeit in somewhat less violent terms. He wrestled at Ohio State from 1981 to 1986 and would win a Division 1 National Championship one year before Jordan joined the team as assistant coach. During his five years wrestling, including his three as team captain, Skove says none of his teammates “ever came to me and ever expressed any issues or concerns.”

“Strauss was known to be a little weird. He would take two showers in one day, and we’d just laugh it off like ‘really doc?’” Skove recalls. “He’s our team physician, so he’s giving you physicals, and he’s touched you everywhere, doing the cough thing. But he never, just in my experience with my peers, he never crossed a line.”

Skove, who wrestled and trained with Jordan at the East-West tournament when the congressman was a student at the University of Wisconsin, couldn’t imagine Jordan ignoring abuse. “He definitely would’ve represented the wrestlers. From what I know of Jim and his personality, he’s not a flower. He isn’t going to wilt if something’s going on.”

Some like Lee Kemp, a gold-medal Olympian and national champion, argue that accusations are part of campaign to discredit Jordan now that the Ohio Republican is considering a bid for House Speaker. “This doctor worked with other sports teams too,” Kemp told me by phone. “Why pick out Jim? Clearly, this is an attempt to smear him.”

Kemp takes credit for recruiting Jordan to the University of Wisconsin as a student and said in an earlier statement that the idea “Jim would know of abuse of his wrestlers and do nothing is utterly absurd.”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/former-coaches-wrestlers-and-colleagues-rush-to-defend-rep-jim-jordan

A former wrestler is speaking out in support of his former coaches who some say turned a blind eye to sexual abuse.

George Pardos said he has met with the independent investigative team who is interviewing former student athletes and coaches as allegations swirl regarding former team doctor Richard Strauss.

Some athletes have talked about sexual misconduct dating back to the 1970s against Strauss, who killed himself in 2005 and only now is under investigation.
Pardos, who first wrestled in the United States Marines, and then for Ohio State from 1988 to 1993, said he never experienced sexual abuse.
“I have had 20 or so examinations with Strauss over the five years and not one time did he act inappropriately toward me. I had to be in there completely naked. Not one time did he do anything that I could deem inappropriate. If there was abuse, coaches would have had to go to law enforcement.Abuse and inappropriate are two different things,” said Pardos. “Even though there’s some things that might be inappropriate, do they rise to a level of sexual abuse ? I don’t think it did.”

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/former-wrestler-speaks-out-in-support-of-his-former-coaches-during-strauss-investigation

"There were always rumors"...the doctor "was known to be a little weird"....he would "take two showers a day"...

And 5 former wrestlers speaking out. Yet you think they are conspiring together and lying.

Why do cons on the one hand have an easy time believing in Pizza Gate but on the other refuse to believe accustations of sexual abuse victims?

I have to say the doctor's suicide makes me tend to believe the 5 accusers even more. He obviously had problems.