Parking illegally for church not ticketed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of driving churchgoers coming in from the MD 'burbs. And lots of them seem to drive like Courtland Milloy and have his sense of curmudgeonly entitlement.

We afforded you that piece of land, we are entitled to park wherever, whenever and however we want to....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of driving churchgoers coming in from the MD 'burbs. And lots of them seem to drive like Courtland Milloy and have his sense of curmudgeonly entitlement.

We afforded you that piece of land, we are entitled to park wherever, whenever and however we want to....

all of those parking tickets! Think if that money you could save if you just followed the law. Gosh, you could even maybe afford to live somewhere other than ( vomit) PG. Sadly, you still can't afford the old neighborhood. Too bad...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of driving churchgoers coming in from the MD 'burbs. And lots of them seem to drive like Courtland Milloy and have his sense of curmudgeonly entitlement.

We afforded you that piece of land, we are entitled to park wherever, whenever and however we want to....

Poe's law invoked.

[Anonymous]

This issue has been going on forever. MPD is loathe to enforce the law because of what is perceived as sensitivity over this issue, given that forces of race and gentrification are in play.

I will say this: as a Christian who goes to church every week, and sometimes has to park a few blocks away from where I worship, these people embarrass me and give people of faith a bad name. It is rude, entitled, and uncharitable to not follow the law and impact the community by blocking intersections, double parking, or doing any other illegal parking actions. The funny thing is that usually there is a place to park a few blocks away, but these people would rather double park someone so they can be right next to their church, which is so ridiculous. I often wonder how people can go to church and reconcile these actions all in the same morning, but I guess they don't care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This issue has been going on forever. MPD is loathe to enforce the law because of what is perceived as sensitivity over this issue, given that forces of race and gentrification are in play.

I will say this: as a Christian who goes to church every week, and sometimes has to park a few blocks away from where I worship, these people embarrass me and give people of faith a bad name. It is rude, entitled, and uncharitable to not follow the law and impact the community by blocking intersections, double parking, or doing any other illegal parking actions. The funny thing is that usually there is a place to park a few blocks away, but these people would rather double park someone so they can be right next to their church, which is so ridiculous. I often wonder how people can go to church and reconcile these actions all in the same morning, but I guess they don't care.

Fundamentally, it's not about a need for parking, it's not even really about convenience, it's about political power. As you note, there are often free, legal, spaces available nearby. It's certainly not the case that the demand for parking so outstrips the supply that there is simply no other choice than to park other people in and block crosswalks and hydrants. It's a message of impunity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This issue has been going on forever. MPD is loathe to enforce the law because of what is perceived as sensitivity over this issue, given that forces of race and gentrification are in play.

I will say this: as a Christian who goes to church every week, and sometimes has to park a few blocks away from where I worship, these people embarrass me and give people of faith a bad name. It is rude, entitled, and uncharitable to not follow the law and impact the community by blocking intersections, double parking, or doing any other illegal parking actions. The funny thing is that usually there is a place to park a few blocks away, but these people would rather double park someone so they can be right next to their church, which is so ridiculous. I often wonder how people can go to church and reconcile these actions all in the same morning, but I guess they don't care.

Fundamentally, it's not about a need for parking, it's not even really about convenience, it's about political power. As you note, there are often free, legal, spaces available nearby. It's certainly not the case that the demand for parking so outstrips the supply that there is simply no other choice than to park other people in and block crosswalks and hydrants. It's a message of impunity.

Note that even the supporters of church parkers on this thread don't make the argument that it is necessary, rather that it is something they are entitled to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of driving churchgoers coming in from the MD 'burbs. And lots of them seem to drive like Courtland Milloy and have his sense of curmudgeonly entitlement.

We afforded you that piece of land, we are entitled to park wherever, whenever and however we want to....

You can't afford anything. That's why you live in PG.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of driving churchgoers coming in from the MD 'burbs. And lots of them seem to drive like Courtland Milloy and have his sense of curmudgeonly entitlement.

We afforded you that piece of land, we are entitled to park wherever, whenever and however we want to....

You can't afford anything. That's why you live in PG.

Let see...
A big house with two cars garage
Plenty of space for me and visitors to PARK.
Plenty of money left to enjoy finer things in life...
oh yeah, I'd rather live in PG than those overpriced dungeons in DC where you cannot even find a parking space to park your own car.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of driving churchgoers coming in from the MD 'burbs. And lots of them seem to drive like Courtland Milloy and have his sense of curmudgeonly entitlement.

We afforded you that piece of land, we are entitled to park wherever, whenever and however we want to....

You can't afford anything. That's why you live in PG.

Let see...
A big house with two cars garage
Plenty of space for me and visitors to PARK.
Plenty of money left to enjoy finer things in life...
oh yeah, I'd rather live in PG than those overpriced dungeons in DC where you cannot even find a parking space to park your own car.

Plenty of room to build churches with plenty of parking too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of driving churchgoers coming in from the MD 'burbs. And lots of them seem to drive like Courtland Milloy and have his sense of curmudgeonly entitlement.

We afforded you that piece of land, we are entitled to park wherever, whenever and however we want to....

You can't afford anything. That's why you live in PG.

Let see...
A big house with two cars garage
Plenty of space for me and visitors to PARK.
Plenty of money left to enjoy finer things in life...
oh yeah, I'd rather live in PG than those overpriced dungeons in DC where you cannot even find a parking space to park your own car.

The choice: Dysfunctional City or Pervasive Graft County.

[Anonymous]

It's not just churches who do this, by the way -- my synagogue in Cleveland Park has spots on its block where no parking is allowed except on Saturday mornings, and it also gets permission every year to let people park without the proper zone stickers during the Jewish high holy days. (On Porter Street behind it, however, the city does still ticket for parking at expired meters during services.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not just churches who do this, by the way -- my synagogue in Cleveland Park has spots on its block where no parking is allowed except on Saturday mornings, and it also gets permission every year to let people park without the proper zone stickers during the Jewish high holy days. (On Porter Street behind it, however, the city does still ticket for parking at expired meters during services.)

I'm not sure what your point is. If I understand you correctly, your synagogue makes arrangements so that people attending services have sufficient legal parking spaces, and those who chose to park illegally get ticketed. That's a far cry from having congregants leave their car wherever is convenient, neighbors be damned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not just churches who do this, by the way -- my synagogue in Cleveland Park has spots on its block where no parking is allowed except on Saturday mornings, and it also gets permission every year to let people park without the proper zone stickers during the Jewish high holy days. (On Porter Street behind it, however, the city does still ticket for parking at expired meters during services.)

Let me just say, as a Conservative Jew, I think that is taking the driving leniency just a tad too far, especially for an urban shul - thinking a bit less of Adas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of driving churchgoers coming in from the MD 'burbs. And lots of them seem to drive like Courtland Milloy and have his sense of curmudgeonly entitlement.

We afforded you that piece of land, we are entitled to park wherever, whenever and however we want to....

You can't afford anything. That's why you live in PG.

Why the hate on PG?

I was born in PG. I don't understand why someone who probably isn't from here (you) feels justified in casting aspersions on someplace they know nothing about. This puzzles me.

Explain?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of driving churchgoers coming in from the MD 'burbs. And lots of them seem to drive like Courtland Milloy and have his sense of curmudgeonly entitlement.

We afforded you that piece of land, we are entitled to park wherever, whenever and however we want to....

You can't afford anything. That's why you live in PG.

Why the hate on PG?

I was born in PG. I don't understand why someone who probably isn't from here (you) feels justified in casting aspersions on someplace they know nothing about. This puzzles me.

Explain?

Not the PP, however, pp probably feels justified casting aspersions on PG because of the number of AAs in PG. Notice how no other county is denigrated as much as PG, not MoCo, Arlington, FF etc? Now if more flannel shirted, handlebar moustached white males and their yoga loving partners gentrified PG, then the county would be viewed more positively by the DCUM masses.