Parking illegally for church not ticketed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not just churches who do this, by the way -- my synagogue in Cleveland Park has spots on its block where no parking is allowed except on Saturday mornings, and it also gets permission every year to let people park without the proper zone stickers during the Jewish high holy days. (On Porter Street behind it, however, the city does still ticket for parking at expired meters during services.)

Let me just say, as a Conservative Jew, I think that is taking the driving leniency just a tad too far, especially for an urban shul - thinking a bit less of Adas.

There are members who live far beyond walking distance, and I don't think most Conservative shuls really honor the prohibition on driving. Plenty of people walk, but you expect people who live in, say, Bethesda to do that?

No, but I expect them to either park in the shul lot, or find a way to park on the street under the standard rules without special shabbos only spaces. Otherwise they should take transit to shul, bike to shul (I have done that to my suburban shul) or just find a nice C shul in MoCo.

Note, the C leniency on driving allows someone who lives outside walking distance to ANY shul to drive to one. It was never meant to allow people to drive past half a dozen C shuls to get to one they really really like. We don't pay attention to that, because most lay C Jews don't really follow halacha, and those who do, mostly do not drive on shabbat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hmmmmm, last time you said it was going to the grocery store. And another time it was to go the hospital. And I think I recall also reading about it making you late for yoga class.

Now it's your granny's funeral.


You seem to be really busy on Sunday mornings, huh?

You really think its okay to block someone's driveway on Sunday mornings because you don't like where they are going?

I suppose if all your driveways in the suburbs were blocked in, that would solve the problem of you finding a parking space in DC on Sunday AM, now wouldn't it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is the way church parking has worked for decades.

Just because YOU live here now, doesn't mean you get to transform every detail of the neighborhood into something that fits your idea of how things "should be".

Those people at the church were parking like that 30 years before you bought your renovated, subdivided human filing cabinet with granite countertops and bamboo floors.

So just accept it as part of living in a city.

You're too funny. These parishioners don't even live in DC. Maryland plates out the wazoo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hmmmmm, last time you said it was going to the grocery store. And another time it was to go the hospital. And I think I recall also reading about it making you late for yoga class.

Now it's your granny's funeral.


You seem to be really busy on Sunday mornings, huh?

You really think its okay to block someone's driveway on Sunday mornings because you don't like where they are going?

I suppose if all your driveways in the suburbs were blocked in, that would solve the problem of you finding a parking space in DC on Sunday AM, now wouldn't it?

[Anonymous]

Traffic complaints of this nature are frankly low priority for MPD, also there's the ever present specter of "RACISM!!" accusations that'll be thrown at them should they step up enforcement.

[Anonymous]

Exactly.

Police aren't going to do squat most of the time.

Accept as your reality. YOU chose to live next to a big urban church. Own it.

You're coming off like all those idiots who move next to a railroad yard, shooting range or an airport that's been there for 50 years, and immediately start pestering local politicians to do something about all the noise.

That's what you look like to the rest of us here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Exactly.

Police aren't going to do squat most of the time.

Accept as your reality. YOU chose to live next to a big urban church. Own it.

You're coming off like all those idiots who move next to a railroad yard, shooting range or an airport that's been there for 50 years, and immediately start pestering local politicians to do something about all the noise.

That's what you look like to the rest of us here.

One can acknowledge the real resource constraints on the police, without having to shut up about the problem on an internet forum.

I do wonder if people drove up and blocked in driveways in PG county if the PG police would do anything about it. Not that I would do such a thing.

As for the moving to a nuisance argument, those are things that are legal.