Parking illegally for church not ticketed?

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Go to church in your own neighborhood.

They ARE in their "own" neighborhood.

YOU are the outsider. Why is this so hard for you to understand? It's a very simple thing....

No, I LIVE in DC. These people driving from Maryland do not. Is that seriously hard for YOU to understand?

You're missing the point.

You live there NOW.

Their parents and grandparents lived there before you were even born. They might not live there now, but they grew up there, and it's still THEIR neighborhood, regardless of where they live now, or who occupies it at the moment.

You're an idiot.

-NP

NP, I think I get what PPP is saying. PP when you go back home to visit your family, do you consider that your neighborhood. A place and home that you will always feel you belong. As ET says, home.

True, but I don't feel that gives me an automatic right to inconvenience others.

Don't like it, don't move into communities where you have no history.

No surprise of the history and background of most of the folks that are interested in changing the ways and breaking the cohesiveness of the institutions that have been historic pillars in supporting communities that have had to deal with systematic oppression.

Granted, most of the folks that are anti-church also have no problems with cultural appropriation, such as through yoga.

I love how the assumptions are that all the anti-church posters moved here. My family is from this neighborhood. I DO NOT want Marylanders coming here and illegally parking. IDGAF what color you are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This conversation is like when people build subdivision in the middle of the forest, and start to complain about the deer eating their hydrangeas. The world doesn't change because of your gentrifying presence. The churches have been in DC long before the DC millennial newcomers (your manifest destiny spirit is showing). It doesn't matter where the congregants live, and people can go to church wherever they want. I am positive that there are a number of white congregants, around the country, who travel to attend their church. Why should it be different for Black churchgoers in DC?

If parking rules aren't don't apply on Sundays, then no laws are being broken.

Parking rules do apply. They are not following them.

Look we get it, they are from Maryland and don't care. I live here. My family lives here. I like the people who live in DC, I don't care if you moved here yesterday or 50 years ago. Just follow the laws. It's not hard.

[Anonymous]

Around Lincoln Park, the illegal parkers park in one of the driving lanes. There's not a shoulder, they are parking in a lane designated for traffic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Around Lincoln Park, the illegal parkers park in one of the driving lanes. There's not a shoulder, they are parking in a lane designated for traffic.

Just call for a tow. Problem solved.

[Anonymous]

From my experience, MPD won't usually tow, but they will ticket. Keep calling and requesting a ticket. Just a reminder, it's 911 for all police requests, not just emergencies.

I haven't kept track, but I've probably called in about $1,000 worth of tickets over the past few years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Go to church in your own neighborhood.

They ARE in their "own" neighborhood.

YOU are the outsider. Why is this so hard for you to understand? It's a very simple thing....

No, I LIVE in DC. These people driving from Maryland do not. Is that seriously hard for YOU to understand?

You're missing the point.

You live there NOW.

Their parents and grandparents lived there before you were even born. They might not live there now, but they grew up there, and it's still THEIR neighborhood, regardless of where they live now, or who occupies it at the moment.

You're an idiot.

-NP

NP, I think I get what PPP is saying. PP when you go back home to visit your family, do you consider that your neighborhood. A place and home that you will always feel you belong. As ET says, home.

True, but I don't feel that gives me an automatic right to inconvenience others.

Don't like it, don't move into communities where you have no history.

No surprise of the history and background of most of the folks that are interested in changing the ways and breaking the cohesiveness of the institutions that have been historic pillars in supporting communities that have had to deal with systematic oppression.

Granted, most of the folks that are anti-church also have no problems with cultural appropriation, such as through yoga.

1. Churches can't maintain their cohesiveness without the right to park on Sundays at will? I am all for churches and historic institutions. But this is about parking. You keep changing the subject from parking to some broad culture war thing
2. Oh, you are the yoga appropriation lady. You are making a compelling case that the focus in liberal arts education towards a post-modern focus on cultural power discourse has gone too far.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From my experience, MPD won't usually tow, but they will ticket. Keep calling and requesting a ticket. Just a reminder, it's 911 for all police requests, not just emergencies.

I haven't kept track, but I've probably called in about $1,000 worth of tickets over the past few years.

That works too. City will happily ticket. Let ward 9 pay to repave your street.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From my experience, MPD won't usually tow, but they will ticket. Keep calling and requesting a ticket. Just a reminder, it's 911 for all police requests, not just emergencies.

I haven't kept track, but I've probably called in about $1,000 worth of tickets over the past few years.

That works too. City will happily ticket. Let ward 9 pay to repave your street.

They will cry 'discrimination.'

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From my experience, MPD won't usually tow, but they will ticket. Keep calling and requesting a ticket. Just a reminder, it's 911 for all police requests, not just emergencies.

I haven't kept track, but I've probably called in about $1,000 worth of tickets over the past few years.

Thanks. Great idea. I'll start doing this as well in my neighborhood. On Sundays, more than 50% of parked cars have Maryland tags, and I'm not even counting the cars parked illegally. I can never find parking. This is inexcusable given that there's a metro nearby and a bus stop right in front of the church..

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This conversation is like when people build subdivision in the middle of the forest, and start to complain about the deer eating their hydrangeas. The world doesn't change because of your gentrifying presence. The churches have been in DC long before the DC millennial newcomers (your manifest destiny spirit is showing). It doesn't matter where the congregants live, and people can go to church wherever they want. I am positive that there are a number of white congregants, around the country, who travel to attend their church. Why should it be different for Black churchgoers in DC?

If parking rules aren't don't apply on Sundays, then no laws are being broken.

The rules apply, they're not being enforced. There is a difference.

Also, if you live on the Hill you get a residential parking tag. That allows you to park, if you're lucky, near your home. The problem is that the churchgoers (all skin types) illegally block in the owners/tenants on Sunday mornings. Please to ushers won't help. You have to walk to the police station and ask to get the car towed so you can go to work (yes on a Sunday) or the emergency room. It's just wrong. It also creates a major fire hazard for the fire department because the streets are too narrow where this is happening. I don't know why the churches just realize this is inappropriate and rude and tell their congregation to come five minutes early to find a legal parking place.

[Anonymous]

Lots of driving churchgoers coming in from the MD 'burbs. And lots of them seem to drive like Courtland Milloy and have his sense of curmudgeonly entitlement.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From my experience, MPD won't usually tow, but they will ticket. Keep calling and requesting a ticket. Just a reminder, it's 911 for all police requests, not just emergencies.

I haven't kept track, but I've probably called in about $1,000 worth of tickets over the past few years.

Thanks. Great idea. I'll start doing this as well in my neighborhood. On Sundays, more than 50% of parked cars have Maryland tags, and I'm not even counting the cars parked illegally. I can never find parking. This is inexcusable given that there's a metro nearby and a bus stop right in front of the church..

If they're parked legally, there's nothing you can do.
You'd have to go through the process to get your block changed to zone parking only for whatever days / times. I've seen some parking that is zone parking only 24/7.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From my experience, MPD won't usually tow, but they will ticket. Keep calling and requesting a ticket. Just a reminder, it's 911 for all police requests, not just emergencies.

I haven't kept track, but I've probably called in about $1,000 worth of tickets over the past few years.

Thanks. Great idea. I'll start doing this as well in my neighborhood. On Sundays, more than 50% of parked cars have Maryland tags, and I'm not even counting the cars parked illegally. I can never find parking. This is inexcusable given that there's a metro nearby and a bus stop right in front of the church..

If they're parked legally, there's nothing you can do.
You'd have to go through the process to get your block changed to zone parking only for whatever days / times. I've seen some parking that is zone parking only 24/7.

Good luck with that. There were some churches that opposed having a bike lane near the church. They said it would impact parking but it was probably just as much about a demographically-changing DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From my experience, MPD won't usually tow, but they will ticket. Keep calling and requesting a ticket. Just a reminder, it's 911 for all police requests, not just emergencies.

I haven't kept track, but I've probably called in about $1,000 worth of tickets over the past few years.

Thanks. Great idea. I'll start doing this as well in my neighborhood. On Sundays, more than 50% of parked cars have Maryland tags, and I'm not even counting the cars parked illegally. I can never find parking. This is inexcusable given that there's a metro nearby and a bus stop right in front of the church..

If they're parked legally, there's nothing you can do.
You'd have to go through the process to get your block changed to zone parking only for whatever days / times. I've seen some parking that is zone parking only 24/7.

Good luck with that. There were some churches that opposed having a bike lane near the church. They said it would impact parking but it was probably just as much about a demographically-changing DC.

I thought you just needed the agreement of a majority of the residents on the block. Not sure how a church two blocks over could interfere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From my experience, MPD won't usually tow, but they will ticket. Keep calling and requesting a ticket. Just a reminder, it's 911 for all police requests, not just emergencies.

I haven't kept track, but I've probably called in about $1,000 worth of tickets over the past few years.

Thanks. Great idea. I'll start doing this as well in my neighborhood. On Sundays, more than 50% of parked cars have Maryland tags, and I'm not even counting the cars parked illegally. I can never find parking. This is inexcusable given that there's a metro nearby and a bus stop right in front of the church..

If they're parked legally, there's nothing you can do.
You'd have to go through the process to get your block changed to zone parking only for whatever days / times. I've seen some parking that is zone parking only 24/7.

You're not reading. They are parked illegally. Hill residents have residential parking stickers - they are the only ones in most neighborhoods who can park for more than 2 hours. What has been happening for decades is that the church-goers come alone and block in the residential cars. So not only do they not have Hill tags, but they block in the residents who need their own cars. And it's a fire hazard as well because the streets are too narrow in most situations to handle three lanes of parked cars (the two legally parked lanes, right next to the curb, then also the church goers, parked in a third traffic lane. And trying to deal with the churches and ask them to be polite about it is impossible. They are just downright RUDE about it.