I hate smokers!!!

[Anonymous]

OP, I'm with you. I have asthma, and I hate cigarette smoke. Cigarette smoke is vile and very difficult to avoid. I'd be happy if all smokers would quit...or disappear forever.

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Anonymous wrote:Cigarette smoke permeates in a way that affects people on the other side of the street. Not just someone standing next to you. The weather is getting nice so driving with a car window down should be great. But if someone 6 cars ahead of you is smoking, you can smell it! By the time you realize it and put up you window, the smell is in your car. I think the comments about smokers being "selfish" are because 1 lousy cigarette can have a big radius. 1 person smoking outside a restaurant means the entire outdoor seating area smells it. When someone smokes at the top of an escalator, the smell comes down. And hurrying up the escalator to get away doesn't help because you breath in more while exerting yourself. And what about my 2yo on the escalator with me? Or you walk out of your office building and you are greeted with clouds of smoke. Why can't I just leave in peace?

That's the real issue for me. I don't care if you smoke. I do care when it feels like I am smoking too. inconsiderate to say the least.

You sound like a very special snowflake.

No, pp sounds reasonable. You sound like a dumb asshole.

If you think this sounds reasonable you must be posting from a padded room. No one gets to personally direct all life around them. Did you even read the part about the escalator? How does this person live with so much drama. If someone farts in her house, does she put it up for sale?

Except smokers apparently. Someone's smoke affects people nearby. No way around that. My doing nothing affects no one.

You mean smokers are breaking into your house at night and standing over your bed puffing away? Smoking is not permitted in almost every public building in this city and many places even outdoors (like hospital grounds). I'm a smoker and I don't have a problem with this. But when you complain about someone smoking in their own home or on their own property or on a public street where it is legal, it gets a little over the top. This is America and people have freedom to make their own decisions. It's not just about your freedom, it's about other's as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Cigarette smoke permeates in a way that affects people on the other side of the street. Not just someone standing next to you. The weather is getting nice so driving with a car window down should be great. But if someone 6 cars ahead of you is smoking, you can smell it! By the time you realize it and put up you window, the smell is in your car. I think the comments about smokers being "selfish" are because 1 lousy cigarette can have a big radius. 1 person smoking outside a restaurant means the entire outdoor seating area smells it. When someone smokes at the top of an escalator, the smell comes down. And hurrying up the escalator to get away doesn't help because you breath in more while exerting yourself. And what about my 2yo on the escalator with me? Or you walk out of your office building and you are greeted with clouds of smoke. Why can't I just leave in peace?

That's the real issue for me. I don't care if you smoke. I do care when it feels like I am smoking too. inconsiderate to say the least.

You sound like a very special snowflake.

No, pp sounds reasonable. You sound like a dumb asshole.

If you think this sounds reasonable you must be posting from a padded room. No one gets to personally direct all life around them. Did you even read the part about the escalator? How does this person live with so much drama. If someone farts in her house, does she put it up for sale?

Except smokers apparently. Someone's smoke affects people nearby. No way around that. My doing nothing affects no one.

You mean smokers are breaking into your house at night and standing over your bed puffing away? Smoking is not permitted in almost every public building in this city and many places even outdoors (like hospital grounds). I'm a smoker and I don't have a problem with this. But when you complain about someone smoking in their own home or on their own property or on a public street where it is legal, it gets a little over the top. This is America and people have freedom to make their own decisions. It's not just about your freedom, it's about other's as well.

You're who I was writing about earlier:

"... smokers just don't get it (or refuse to). They really don't understand how their stench follows them into buildings when they come inside after a smoke. They don't realize how bad their clothes smell, or that their hair radiates stale smoke stink. They truly do not understand that their habit follows them around and makes people near them feel ill even if they don't have a lit cigarette in their hand at the moment."

But hey, enjoy ruining the immediate vicinity everywhere you go because Freedom or whatever.

(You DISGUSTING PIG!)

[Anonymous]

PP above sounds like a lovely person don't they?

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Anonymous wrote:PP above sounds like a lovely person don't they?

Yes, they do. They sound like someone who's mere presence woulnt send me into an asthma attack. They sound like someone who doesn't toss flaming cigarette butts from thier car, as I'm driving behind them.

The PP sounds great to me!

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Anonymous wrote:PP above sounds like a lovely person don't they?

Yes, they do. They sound like someone who's mere presence woulnt send me into an asthma attack. They sound like someone who doesn't toss flaming cigarette butts from thier car, as I'm driving behind them.

The PP sounds great to me!

Serious question - do you also hate backyard fire pits, wood fireplaces, camp fires, etc? Or is it just cigarette smoke?

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Anonymous wrote:PP above sounds like a lovely person don't they?

Yes, they do. They sound like someone who's mere presence woulnt send me into an asthma attack. They sound like someone who doesn't toss flaming cigarette butts from thier car, as I'm driving behind them.

The PP sounds great to me!

Serious question - do you also hate backyard fire pits, wood fireplaces, camp fires, etc? Or is it just cigarette smoke?

I love those other smells. Cigarette smoke affects me negatively, and the smoke and butts are much more prominent.

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Anonymous wrote:PP above sounds like a lovely person don't they?

Yes, they do. They sound like someone who's mere presence woulnt send me into an asthma attack. They sound like someone who doesn't toss flaming cigarette butts from thier car, as I'm driving behind them.

The PP sounds great to me!

Serious question - do you also hate backyard fire pits, wood fireplaces, camp fires, etc? Or is it just cigarette smoke?

Cigarette smoke is disgusting. Camp fires and fireplaces are great. Are you seriously trying to compare the those smells to cigarettes? They are nothing alike

[Anonymous]

NP here.You may dislike the smell of someone who comes inside after a cigarette, but that isn't a health hazard anymore than perfume, or chemical "air fresheners". If a person is actively smoking a cigarette near you, then your exposed to second hand smoke. If you find yourself near someone who does that regularly in a closed space, you may be at a health risk.

That said, you're exposed to far more carcinogens from the cars on a busy street than you are by a smoker who passes you on the sidewalk.

No, I don't smoke and I'm very grateful for the ban on smoking in all public buildings and restaurants, as well as a ban to require smokers to smoke away from the entrances to these buildings when they smoke outside.

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That said, you're exposed to far more carcinogens from the cars on a busy street than you are by a smoker who passes you on the sidewalk.

I don't think this is the case anymore as modern catalytic converters do a pretty good job of cleaning up local emissions with the exception being Diesels - it has been I believe 8 years since the DC region had a code red air day and code orange days are very rare as well now and most days barely get into code yellow anymore.

Having said that it is absurd to suggest you'll get cancer from occasionally being in the vicinity of cigarette smoke and I write that as someone who hates it.

[Anonymous]

Great thread though some nutty responses from both sides.

What galls me and is mentioned in passing by a couple of commentators up thread is all of the littering smokers do.

It isn't just the cigarette butts (and hey smokers they don't biodegrade) but the cigarette boxes and plastic wrappers. Smokers who otherwise presumably aren't litter bugs just think it is perfectly ok to toss their cigarette trash wherever it suits them.

If you spend the time and look at the ground (and since having kids I seem to do that a lot) cigarette trash is absolutely everywhere and there is a lot of it. Streets, sidewalks, front yards, flower pots, crammed into every nook and cranny, at the beach, parks including National Parks and off the beaten path hiking trails etc.

But it is part of the cool of smoking - you can and should toss your waste because I guess you are marching to the beat of your own drummer and that justifies all of it.

The most absurd thing is how stupid smokers look with all the nervous hand tic BS stuff they do - the flicking and tapping and different ways to hold their cigarettes to try to look cool and different. But the stupidest and my favorite is the "packing" of cigarettes before smoking one - as if that somehow is going to improve the consumption of a highly manipulated manufactured product with over 7000 added chemicals.

So yeah I hate smokers because most of them are inconsiderate slobs but I also silently mock them and their idiotic attempts at looking cool and relevant - you look like idiots and if you had any self awareness would be hiding and smoking by the loading dock instead of parking yourselves by the entrances to restaurants and office buildings where the rest of us can disdain and mock you while we try to live our lives without having to even for a moment stink as much as you do.

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Anonymous wrote:Cigarette smoke permeates in a way that affects people on the other side of the street. Not just someone standing next to you. The weather is getting nice so driving with a car window down should be great. But if someone 6 cars ahead of you is smoking, you can smell it! By the time you realize it and put up you window, the smell is in your car. I think the comments about smokers being "selfish" are because 1 lousy cigarette can have a big radius. 1 person smoking outside a restaurant means the entire outdoor seating area smells it. When someone smokes at the top of an escalator, the smell comes down. And hurrying up the escalator to get away doesn't help because you breath in more while exerting yourself. And what about my 2yo on the escalator with me? Or you walk out of your office building and you are greeted with clouds of smoke. Why can't I just leave in peace?

That's the real issue for me. I don't care if you smoke. I do care when it feels like I am smoking too. inconsiderate to say the least.

You sound like a very special snowflake.

No, pp sounds reasonable. You sound like a dumb asshole.

If you think this sounds reasonable you must be posting from a padded room. No one gets to personally direct all life around them. Did you even read the part about the escalator? How does this person live with so much drama. If someone farts in her house, does she put it up for sale?

Except smokers apparently. Someone's smoke affects people nearby. No way around that. My doing nothing affects no one.

You mean smokers are breaking into your house at night and standing over your bed puffing away? Smoking is not permitted in almost every public building in this city and many places even outdoors (like hospital grounds). I'm a smoker and I don't have a problem with this. But when you complain about someone smoking in their own home or on their own property or on a public street where it is legal, it gets a little over the top. This is America and people have freedom to make their own decisions. It's not just about your freedom, it's about other's as well.

You're who I was writing about earlier:

"... smokers just don't get it (or refuse to). They really don't understand how their stench follows them into buildings when they come inside after a smoke. They don't realize how bad their clothes smell, or that their hair radiates stale smoke stink. They truly do not understand that their habit follows them around and makes people near them feel ill even if they don't have a lit cigarette in their hand at the moment."

But hey, enjoy ruining the immediate vicinity everywhere you go because Freedom or whatever.

(You DISGUSTING PIG!)[/quot

You are a terrible person.

Signed,
a nonsmoker

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Great thread though some nutty responses from both sides.

What galls me and is mentioned in passing by a couple of commentators up thread is all of the littering smokers do.

It isn't just the cigarette butts (and hey smokers they don't biodegrade) but the cigarette boxes and plastic wrappers. Smokers who otherwise presumably aren't litter bugs just think it is perfectly ok to toss their cigarette trash wherever it suits them.

If you spend the time and look at the ground (and since having kids I seem to do that a lot) cigarette trash is absolutely everywhere and there is a lot of it. Streets, sidewalks, front yards, flower pots, crammed into every nook and cranny, at the beach, parks including National Parks and off the beaten path hiking trails etc.

But it is part of the cool of smoking - you can and should toss your waste because I guess you are marching to the beat of your own drummer and that justifies all of it.

The most absurd thing is how stupid smokers look with all the nervous hand tic BS stuff they do - the flicking and tapping and different ways to hold their cigarettes to try to look cool and different. But the stupidest and my favorite is the "packing" of cigarettes before smoking one - as if that somehow is going to improve the consumption of a highly manipulated manufactured product with over 7000 added chemicals.

So yeah I hate smokers because most of them are inconsiderate slobs but I also silently mock them and their idiotic attempts at looking cool and relevant - you look like idiots and if you had any self awareness would be hiding and smoking by the loading dock instead of parking yourselves by the entrances to restaurants and office buildings where the rest of us can disdain and mock you while we try to live our lives without having to even for a moment stink as much as you do.

I guess we know different smokers because the majority of the ones I know are nice people who happen to have a bad habit. Maybe you're just to busy silently mocking the ones you know to see past that one habit you judge or perhaps it's a case of like attracts like.

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Anonymous wrote:Great thread though some nutty responses from both sides.

What galls me and is mentioned in passing by a couple of commentators up thread is all of the littering smokers do.

It isn't just the cigarette butts (and hey smokers they don't biodegrade) but the cigarette boxes and plastic wrappers. Smokers who otherwise presumably aren't litter bugs just think it is perfectly ok to toss their cigarette trash wherever it suits them.

If you spend the time and look at the ground (and since having kids I seem to do that a lot) cigarette trash is absolutely everywhere and there is a lot of it. Streets, sidewalks, front yards, flower pots, crammed into every nook and cranny, at the beach, parks including National Parks and off the beaten path hiking trails etc.

But it is part of the cool of smoking - you can and should toss your waste because I guess you are marching to the beat of your own drummer and that justifies all of it.

The most absurd thing is how stupid smokers look with all the nervous hand tic BS stuff they do - the flicking and tapping and different ways to hold their cigarettes to try to look cool and different. But the stupidest and my favorite is the "packing" of cigarettes before smoking one - as if that somehow is going to improve the consumption of a highly manipulated manufactured product with over 7000 added chemicals.

So yeah I hate smokers because most of them are inconsiderate slobs but I also silently mock them and their idiotic attempts at looking cool and relevant - you look like idiots and if you had any self awareness would be hiding and smoking by the loading dock instead of parking yourselves by the entrances to restaurants and office buildings where the rest of us can disdain and mock you while we try to live our lives without having to even for a moment stink as much as you do.

I guess we know different smokers because the majority of the ones I know are nice people who happen to have a bad habit. Maybe you're just to busy silently mocking the ones you know to see past that one habit you judge or perhaps it's a case of like attracts like.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Great thread though some nutty responses from both sides.

What galls me and is mentioned in passing by a couple of commentators up thread is all of the littering smokers do.

It isn't just the cigarette butts (and hey smokers they don't biodegrade) but the cigarette boxes and plastic wrappers. Smokers who otherwise presumably aren't litter bugs just think it is perfectly ok to toss their cigarette trash wherever it suits them.

If you spend the time and look at the ground (and since having kids I seem to do that a lot) cigarette trash is absolutely everywhere and there is a lot of it. Streets, sidewalks, front yards, flower pots, crammed into every nook and cranny, at the beach, parks including National Parks and off the beaten path hiking trails etc.

But it is part of the cool of smoking - you can and should toss your waste because I guess you are marching to the beat of your own drummer and that justifies all of it.

The most absurd thing is how stupid smokers look with all the nervous hand tic BS stuff they do - the flicking and tapping and different ways to hold their cigarettes to try to look cool and different. But the stupidest and my favorite is the "packing" of cigarettes before smoking one - as if that somehow is going to improve the consumption of a highly manipulated manufactured product with over 7000 added chemicals.

So yeah I hate smokers because most of them are inconsiderate slobs but I also silently mock them and their idiotic attempts at looking cool and relevant - you look like idiots and if you had any self awareness would be hiding and smoking by the loading dock instead of parking yourselves by the entrances to restaurants and office buildings where the rest of us can disdain and mock you while we try to live our lives without having to even for a moment stink as much as you do.

I guess we know different smokers because the majority of the ones I know are nice people who happen to have a bad habit. Maybe you're just to busy silently mocking the ones you know to see past that one habit you judge or perhaps it's a case of like attracts like.

That's a fair response - I've got family members I adore who smoke.

But they, like most smokers, are still electing to litter and are still electing to look like idiots with all the hand tic silliness. And that is important - because at some level if there was more shame (instead of pretending these ancillary things are somehow ok and even cool) I think there'd be less smoking and that would potentially be a good thing for at least some of the people I care about.