Girls

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone see last night's back to back episodes/season finale? I thought they were masterfully done, and I've been a big critic of Girls, and especially Hannah's character.

From start to finish, I thought each episode was excellent. I loved the bike riding scene with Hannah and her friend (can't remember her name). Great shots of NYC. I think Shosh has finally found her niche - fantastic marketing of Ray's coffee shop to the anti-hipster crowd. I would gladly be a customer if there was a place like this IRL. That hipster Helvetica place was so self-serious - ugh.

I hope Ray wasn't seriously going to carry and fetch things for Marnie on their tour. Let's hope he has more self-respect than that. I do hope they wind up together though. I think he's the perfect antidote to her narcissism.

Jessa and Adam were disturbing in their rage. That was some scene. I wonder if they'll be together next season.

I was so moved by both Elijah and Hannah. We've never seen Elijah be serious and vulnerable and he was both. He made me want to cry when Dill called him "aimless" and said his goodbyes.

Hannah's reading actually did move me to tears. I've found her so incredibly off-putting this season, but her words in that scene were beautiful and showed a side of her we almost never see. Maybe she'll turn herself around by next season and start fresh.

PP, great post. I completely agree that these episodes were out of the ordinary and they touched me too. Very moving.

that's called sock-puppeting

Really? Agreeing with a PP is sock puppeting? Interesting!

Ignore the stupid PP. I agree with you both too.

[Anonymous]

Home sick from work and laid in bed watching the last season. I agree that it has really grown up. Really liked this season.

Like:
Adam and jessa. Only couple this show has seen that actually makes sense.
Adam with the baby
Shosh and yosh - totally want to watch that spinoff show
Shoshana in general. Yes, she ridiculous, but I still love all the scenes with her.

Main gripe:
Desi. I actually liked him before, but he just got more and more annoying to it was over the top

Questions:
will Marnie stiffing that guy Charlotte was selling coke to come back to hurt Charlie?
Did Hannah's mother always curse so much?

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just finished watching this season. Overall, I thought it was really strong but jesus, I am so tired of seeing Hannah naked. Im all for body positive role models on TV but this now seems to be some weird pathology for Lena Dunham to be as naked as much as possilbe in the most unflattering ways possible. She isn't big, she seems unhealty fat and seems have gained 30lbs since the start of the series. I still pretty much hate all the characters except Jessa and Shosh seemed to evolved a bit.

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Anonymous wrote:just finished watching this season. Overall, I thought it was really strong but jesus, I am so tired of seeing Hannah naked. Im all for body positive role models on TV but this now seems to be some weird pathology for Lena Dunham to be as naked as much as possilbe in the most unflattering ways possible. She isn't big, she seems unhealty fat and seems have gained 30lbs since the start of the series. I still pretty much hate all the characters except Jessa and Shosh seemed to evolved a bit.

How can one be not big but unhealthy fat?

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meaning everyone says she is just "big" but don't want to admit the truth which is that its way more than just being on the big side. She is straight up fat.

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Anonymous wrote:meaning everyone says she is just "big" but don't want to admit the truth which is that its way more than just being on the big side. She is straight up fat.

But PP said she's not big. You mean she's not "just" big?

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I think people say "big" to sound polite and not into body shaming. But she is grossly fat and no way healthy.

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I remember hearing her refer to herself as chubby. i was, and still am, amazed at that perspective. She is far beyond what I would consider chubby. Let's just call a spade a spade.

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Lena Dunham has some kind of blind spot for Hannah. She seems to think it's believable that other people would fight over her, happily employ her to work with kids despite horrifically inappropriate behavior, that cute, smart guys (and girls!) would sleep with her and even want a romantic relationship with her....in general, treat her like the charismatic, lovable, upstanding, unentitled person that she is not.

It's an interesting show and I think Lena Dunham is very smart and savvy, but she doesn't seem to get how truly loathsome Hannah is.

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Anonymous wrote:Lena Dunham has some kind of blind spot for Hannah. She seems to think it's believable that other people would fight over her, happily employ her to work with kids despite horrifically inappropriate behavior, that cute, smart guys (and girls!) would sleep with her and even want a romantic relationship with her....in general, treat her like the charismatic, lovable, upstanding, unentitled person that she is not.

It's an interesting show and I think Lena Dunham is very smart and savvy, but she doesn't seem to get how truly loathsome Hannah is.

I'm not a Dunham fan, but I think her brilliance is exactly what you said above. She's got a fine sense of the absurd. I'm always stunned by the difference in how she looks during the 'notes' section of her show. Her comments are always thoughtful.

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Anonymous wrote:Lena Dunham has some kind of blind spot for Hannah. She seems to think it's believable that other people would fight over her, happily employ her to work with kids despite horrifically inappropriate behavior, that cute, smart guys (and girls!) would sleep with her and even want a romantic relationship with her....in general, treat her like the charismatic, lovable, upstanding, unentitled person that she is not.

It's an interesting show and I think Lena Dunham is very smart and savvy, but she doesn't seem to get how truly loathsome Hannah is.

Well said! I agree completely.

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Lots of comments that Fran was so great. Fran may have been great on the surface, but underneath the nice guy exterior, he never accepted Hannah for who she really is. Can you blame him? No, Hannah is a shitty person. But then why did he stay with someone he couldn't stand, and then even continue arguing with her after the breakup? He just wanted to be in a relationship and be controlling. I actually respected that Hannah realized that, even if the way she went about it was horrible.

Loved this season. More Shosh and less Marni in season 6 would be awesome.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of comments that Fran was so great. Fran may have been great on the surface, but underneath the nice guy exterior, he never accepted Hannah for who she really is. Can you blame him? No, Hannah is a shitty person. But then why did he stay with someone he couldn't stand, and then even continue arguing with her after the breakup? He just wanted to be in a relationship and be controlling. I actually respected that Hannah realized that, even if the way she went about it was horrible.

Loved this season. More Shosh and less Marni in season 6 would be awesome.

I don't get why Fran was with Hannah. But I don't think that it was evident that he couldn't stand her while they were together. She did some crazy sh!t when they were together, and he objected to some of that, but generally seemed like a nice guy who was invested in the relationship. He let a lot slide. Maybe I'm just not remembering his controlling behavior- I'll have to rewatch his scenes.

When you mention his continuing to argue after the breakup do you mean when they were on the road trip? What she did there would have made a saint see red. They had plans for the entire summer, rented the RV, everything was hunky dory and then an hour down the road she flips out and acts like he is attacking her when he wants to talk to her to figure out what is happening. She begs him to leave and after he does she complains about him deserting her.

I realize that in Lena Dunham's summary afterwards she spun it like Fran was the bad guy in that relationship, but that's just crazy defending crazy. She's too in love with Hannah to acknowledge how horrid she is.

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I don't get why Fran was with Hannah. But I don't think that it was evident that he couldn't stand her while they were together. She did some crazy sh!t when they were together, and he objected to some of that, but generally seemed like a nice guy who was invested in the relationship. He let a lot slide. Maybe I'm just not remembering his controlling behavior- I'll have to rewatch his scenes.

When you mention his continuing to argue after the breakup do you mean when they were on the road trip? What she did there would have made a saint see red. They had plans for the entire summer, rented the RV, everything was hunky dory and then an hour down the road she flips out and acts like he is attacking her when he wants to talk to her to figure out what is happening. She begs him to leave and after he does she complains about him deserting her.

I realize that in Lena Dunham's summary afterwards she spun it like Fran was the bad guy in that relationship, but that's just crazy defending crazy. She's too in love with Hannah to acknowledge how horrid she is.

I didn't watch the whole notes talk after that episode, but did catch that and was really surprised that she was saying pretty saying much what Hannah was said Along the lines of, "Hannah realized Fran wasn't really a nice guy." Ummm...because he corrected a kid's grammar an an English assignment?

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone see last night's back to back episodes/season finale? I thought they were masterfully done, and I've been a big critic of Girls, and especially Hannah's character.

From start to finish, I thought each episode was excellent. I loved the bike riding scene with Hannah and her friend (can't remember her name). Great shots of NYC. I think Shosh has finally found her niche - fantastic marketing of Ray's coffee shop to the anti-hipster crowd. I would gladly be a customer if there was a place like this IRL. That hipster Helvetica place was so self-serious - ugh.

I hope Ray wasn't seriously going to carry and fetch things for Marnie on their tour. Let's hope he has more self-respect than that. I do hope they wind up together though. I think he's the perfect antidote to her narcissism.

Jessa and Adam were disturbing in their rage. That was some scene. I wonder if they'll be together next season.

I was so moved by both Elijah and Hannah. We've never seen Elijah be serious and vulnerable and he was both. He made me want to cry when Dill called him "aimless" and said his goodbyes.

Hannah's reading actually did move me to tears. I've found her so incredibly off-putting this season, but her words in that scene were beautiful and showed a side of her we almost never see. Maybe she'll turn herself around by next season and start fresh.

Really? Had you been drinking? I am not trying to be rude, but while it was entertaining, it was a far reach from being tear-jerking.

Also, did anyone else notice the bookshop was the same one which featured in an episode of The Following ?(Kevin Bacon cancelled series about mass murderers).

Damn. The Following was cancelled? I guess I havent seen it show up on the dvr in a while... I liked that show.