LEMON ROAD AAP CENTER

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:13 students is less than any other class in the entire district save maybe one or two. I'm just so disgusted. I hope it isn't true that a principal would get away with this.

Completely agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was looking at the numbers from the feeders. Looks like only 5 students from Shrevewood enrolled in the 3rd grade center this year while 19 enrolled in the 6th grade center. Similarly, 8 from Westgate base in 3rd compared to 16 in 6th.

Very small numbers so the difference might not mean much at all. From what I see, there are only 26 center-eligible 3rd graders in Lemon Road.

Just wondering what it felt like to those at the Lemon Road Center. May not be a problem at all.

Uh, probably because Shrevewood didn't have a 6th grade LLIV class

[Anonymous]

We were also told that FCPS is looking at combination classes this year and only allowing them as a last resort. So I'm hoping this principal won't be able to use combination classes to skew her numbers. If she's willing to go to this great length just to appease AAP parents, I don't think I'd trust her on anything. This school should be heavily scrutinized this summer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not in region 2. Is anyone in region 2 willing to report this school's actions to the school board, region 2, and Phyllis Pajardo?

Before you start reporting, you better check all your facts. There are other schools in the same boat!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no total given in that class size counts FOIA request, so you have to add up the students in all of the columns to find out how many children are really in each classroom. Below is the list of students listed in AAP who are in classrooms under 20. I sorted by AAP and then by class size. It isn't a large number of classes. Of course Shrevewood is only listed once because they didn't bother to identify their 3rd grade classroom as AAP. The only LLIV programs that have less than 20 students in a class are at Columbia, Halley, Poplar Tree, Chesterbrook, and Shrevewood Elementaries. LLIV programs are supposed to allow mixing of children. Centers as a rule throughout FCPS do not mix the GE and AAP children.

BEECH TREE ELEM 03 AAP* 15
RIVERSIDE ELEM 03 AAP* 15
SHREVEWOOD ELEM 04 AAP* 15
RIVERSIDE ELEM 04 AAP 16
BEECH TREE ELEM 04 AAP* 16
COLUMBIA ELEM 03 AAP 17
RIVERSIDE ELEM 04 AAP 17
MASON CREST ELEM 05 AAP* 17
RIVERSIDE ELEM 06 AAP 18
RIVERSIDE ELEM 03 AAP 18
CLEARVIEW ELEM 06 AAP 18
MASON CREST ELEM 05 AAP* 18
DEER PARK ELEM 04 AAP* 18
SANGSTER ELEM 03 AAP 19
LEMON ROAD ELEM 04 AAP* 19
WESTLAWN ELEM 04 AAP* 19
MASON CREST ELEM 05 AAP* 19
HALLEY ELEM 05 AAP* 19
DEER PARK ELEM 05 AAP* 19
MASON CREST ELEM 03 AAP* 19
MASON CREST ELEM 05 AAP* 19
GLEN FOREST ELEM 04 AAP* 19
MASON CREST ELEM 03 AAP* 19
LEMON ROAD ELEM 04 AAP* 19
TIMBER LANE ELEM 06 AAP* 19
POPLAR TREE ELEM 05 AAP* 19
CHESTERBROOK ELEM06 AAP* 19

Thanks for this.

Lemon Road is a center and not an LLIV and it mixes in some GE kids in the AAP classrooms. Or for the combined 4-5 classroom, LR mixes 3 AAP kids with 20 GE kids.

PP Thanks for the heads up. At the open house the Principal mentioned he was not putting in Gen Ed kids with AAP kids. Do you know how many Gen Ed kids are put into each AAP class?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was looking at the numbers from the feeders. Looks like only 5 students from Shrevewood enrolled in the 3rd grade center this year while 19 enrolled in the 6th grade center. Similarly, 8 from Westgate base in 3rd compared to 16 in 6th.

Very small numbers so the difference might not mean much at all. From what I see, there are only 26 center-eligible 3rd graders in Lemon Road.

Just wondering what it felt like to those at the Lemon Road Center. May not be a problem at all.

Uh, probably because Shrevewood didn't have a 6th grade LLIV class

Nor did Westgate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not in region 2. Is anyone in region 2 willing to report this school's actions to the school board, region 2, and Phyllis Pajardo?

Before you start reporting, you better check all your facts. There are other schools in the same boat!

I'm happy to report them all. Which other ones do you know of? The other possibilities I can see are Columbia, Halley, Poplar Tree, and Chesterbrook. Poplar Tree is less of an issue this coming year since they are becoming a new center. Chesterbrook historically has had very large AAP classes, so I'm guessing the one low class was just an anomaly this year. I don't know about Columbia and Halley yet. Shrevewood's credibility is at stake now because the principal deliberately gave more teachers than necessary to 3rd and 4th grade AAP students to appease the AAP parents specifically and she did this repeatedly for the two years this LLIV program has been in existence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not in region 2. Is anyone in region 2 willing to report this school's actions to the school board, region 2, and Phyllis Pajardo?

Before you start reporting, you better check all your facts. There are other schools in the same boat!

I'm happy to report them all. Which other ones do you know of? The other possibilities I can see are Columbia, Halley, Poplar Tree, and Chesterbrook. Poplar Tree is less of an issue this coming year since they are becoming a new center. Chesterbrook historically has had very large AAP classes, so I'm guessing the one low class was just an anomaly this year. I don't know about Columbia and Halley yet. Shrevewood's credibility is at stake now because the principal deliberately gave more teachers than necessary to 3rd and 4th grade AAP students to appease the AAP parents specifically and she did this repeatedly for the two years this LLIV program has been in existence.

She explicitly promised the AAP parents that she would not put non-AAP kids in the class, so it was clearly intentional. It's unconscionable that the kids that arguably need the least attention (because they catch on quickly) got the most and the kids who arguably need more attention (because they don't catch on as quickly) were stuck in significantly larger classrooms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

PP Thanks for the heads up. At the open house the Principal mentioned he was not putting in Gen Ed kids with AAP kids. Do you know how many Gen Ed kids are put into each AAP class?

From the Excel file:

3rd grade: 1 GE kid into the only AAP class [LR only has one 3rd grade AAP class].

4th: 4 GE kids into the two AAP classes, with 2 per class.

4th + 5th combined class: 20 GE kids and 3 AAP kids in this one class.

5th: 1 GE into the only AAP class.

6th: 2 GE kids in one AAP class, none in the other AAP class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

She explicitly promised the AAP parents that she would not put non-AAP kids in the class, so it was clearly intentional. It's unconscionable that the kids that arguably need the least attention (because they catch on quickly) got the most and the kids who arguably need more attention (because they don't catch on as quickly) were stuck in significantly larger classrooms.

What are you talking about? It was mentioned that if non-AAP kids are put in the class the class sizes would go from:

15 / 20 / 21 / 22 to

18 / 20 / 20 / 20.

How is that a significantly larger classroom?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not in region 2. Is anyone in region 2 willing to report this school's actions to the school board, region 2, and Phyllis Pajardo?

Before you start reporting, you better check all your facts. There are other schools in the same boat!

I'm happy to report them all. Which other ones do you know of? The other possibilities I can see are Columbia, Halley, Poplar Tree, and Chesterbrook. Poplar Tree is less of an issue this coming year since they are becoming a new center. Chesterbrook historically has had very large AAP classes, so I'm guessing the one low class was just an anomaly this year. I don't know about Columbia and Halley yet. Shrevewood's credibility is at stake now because the principal deliberately gave more teachers than necessary to 3rd and 4th grade AAP students to appease the AAP parents specifically and she did this repeatedly for the two years this LLIV program has been in existence.

She explicitly promised the AAP parents that she would not put non-AAP kids in the class, so it was clearly intentional. It's unconscionable that the kids that arguably need the least attention (because they catch on quickly) got the most and the kids who arguably need more attention (because they don't catch on as quickly) were stuck in significantly larger classrooms.

Is this a center? Centers don't usually allow non AAP kids in AAP classes. I also think for local level IV it's the principal's discretion. I'm not sure there is anything wrong with what the principal did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not in region 2. Is anyone in region 2 willing to report this school's actions to the school board, region 2, and Phyllis Pajardo?

Before you start reporting, you better check all your facts. There are other schools in the same boat!

I'm happy to report them all. Which other ones do you know of? The other possibilities I can see are Columbia, Halley, Poplar Tree, and Chesterbrook. Poplar Tree is less of an issue this coming year since they are becoming a new center. Chesterbrook historically has had very large AAP classes, so I'm guessing the one low class was just an anomaly this year. I don't know about Columbia and Halley yet. Shrevewood's credibility is at stake now because the principal deliberately gave more teachers than necessary to 3rd and 4th grade AAP students to appease the AAP parents specifically and she did this repeatedly for the two years this LLIV program has been in existence.

As a parent of two Gen Ed kids, this just makes me sick. When will this special treatment of AAP kids end?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

She explicitly promised the AAP parents that she would not put non-AAP kids in the class, so it was clearly intentional. It's unconscionable that the kids that arguably need the least attention (because they catch on quickly) got the most and the kids who arguably need more attention (because they don't catch on as quickly) were stuck in significantly larger classrooms.

What are you talking about? It was mentioned that if non-AAP kids are put in the class the class sizes would go from:

15 / 20 / 21 / 22 to

18 / 20 / 20 / 20.

How is that a significantly larger classroom?

22 is significantly larger than 15. Plus Shrevewood shouldn't have these low numbers in these grades if their average class size is 24.5. She made combination classes and increased kindergarten classes to make this happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

She explicitly promised the AAP parents that she would not put non-AAP kids in the class, so it was clearly intentional. It's unconscionable that the kids that arguably need the least attention (because they catch on quickly) got the most and the kids who arguably need more attention (because they don't catch on as quickly) were stuck in significantly larger classrooms.

What are you talking about? It was mentioned that if non-AAP kids are put in the class the class sizes would go from:

15 / 20 / 21 / 22 to

18 / 20 / 20 / 20.

How is that a significantly larger classroom?

22 is significantly larger than 15. Plus Shrevewood shouldn't have these low numbers in these grades if their average class size is 24.5. She made combination classes and increased kindergarten classes to make this happen.

22 is not significantly larger than 20.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not in region 2. Is anyone in region 2 willing to report this school's actions to the school board, region 2, and Phyllis Pajardo?

Before you start reporting, you better check all your facts. There are other schools in the same boat!

I'm happy to report them all. Which other ones do you know of? The other possibilities I can see are Columbia, Halley, Poplar Tree, and Chesterbrook. Poplar Tree is less of an issue this coming year since they are becoming a new center. Chesterbrook historically has had very large AAP classes, so I'm guessing the one low class was just an anomaly this year. I don't know about Columbia and Halley yet. Shrevewood's credibility is at stake now because the principal deliberately gave more teachers than necessary to 3rd and 4th grade AAP students to appease the AAP parents specifically and she did this repeatedly for the two years this LLIV program has been in existence.

She explicitly promised the AAP parents that she would not put non-AAP kids in the class, so it was clearly intentional. It's unconscionable that the kids that arguably need the least attention (because they catch on quickly) got the most and the kids who arguably need more attention (because they don't catch on as quickly) were stuck in significantly larger classrooms.

+100 This. Certainly true now that AAP is no longer a gifted program. When will FCPS clue in?