LEMON ROAD AAP CENTER

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am not in region 2. Is anyone in region 2 willing to report this school's actions to the school board, region 2, and Phyllis Pajardo?

Before you start reporting, you better check all your facts. There are other schools in the same boat!

I'm happy to report them all. Which other ones do you know of? The other possibilities I can see are Columbia, Halley, Poplar Tree, and Chesterbrook. Poplar Tree is less of an issue this coming year since they are becoming a new center. Chesterbrook historically has had very large AAP classes, so I'm guessing the one low class was just an anomaly this year. I don't know about Columbia and Halley yet. Shrevewood's credibility is at stake now because the principal deliberately gave more teachers than necessary to 3rd and 4th grade AAP students to appease the AAP parents specifically and she did this repeatedly for the two years this LLIV program has been in existence.

I don't think "credibility" is the right word. It sounds like the principal was upfront about her intentions and did what she said she would do. You might question her judgment, but not her credibility.

Did FCPS really need to make LLIV available in that many schools in that area? It seems the result has been to promote a bidding war among principals to attract a finite number of AAP-eligible kids who'll boost their test scores.

[Anonymous]

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She explicitly promised the AAP parents that she would not put non-AAP kids in the class, so it was clearly intentional. It's unconscionable that the kids that arguably need the least attention (because they catch on quickly) got the most and the kids who arguably need more attention (because they don't catch on as quickly) were stuck in significantly larger classrooms.

What are you talking about? It was mentioned that if non-AAP kids are put in the class the class sizes would go from:

15 / 20 / 21 / 22 to

18 / 20 / 20 / 20.

How is that a significantly larger classroom?

22 is significantly larger than 15. Plus Shrevewood shouldn't have these low numbers in these grades if their average class size is 24.5. She made combination classes and increased kindergarten classes to make this happen.

Exactly! 22 is 7 extra kids over the 15 kid class. That is a significant difference. Also, it could have been 19, 19, 20, 20. That's 4 extra kids the AAP class didn't have to have. The kids who need the extra help and attention the least, got it. It just seems wrong to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not in region 2. Is anyone in region 2 willing to report this school's actions to the school board, region 2, and Phyllis Pajardo?

Before you start reporting, you better check all your facts. There are other schools in the same boat!

I'm happy to report them all. Which other ones do you know of? The other possibilities I can see are Columbia, Halley, Poplar Tree, and Chesterbrook. Poplar Tree is less of an issue this coming year since they are becoming a new center. Chesterbrook historically has had very large AAP classes, so I'm guessing the one low class was just an anomaly this year. I don't know about Columbia and Halley yet. Shrevewood's credibility is at stake now because the principal deliberately gave more teachers than necessary to 3rd and 4th grade AAP students to appease the AAP parents specifically and she did this repeatedly for the two years this LLIV program has been in existence.

I don't think "credibility" is the right word. It sounds like the principal was upfront about her intentions and did what she said she would do. You might question her judgment, but not her credibility.

Did FCPS really need to make LLIV available in that many schools in that area? It seems the result has been to promote a bidding war among principals to attract a finite number of AAP-eligible kids who'll boost their test scores.

It's pretty clear that this is/was FCPS' way of "apologizing" for the whole Haycock issue, where many Haycock parents were more than happy to kick out the Shrevewood kids from the AAP center. So as to not further ruffle feathers, Shrevewood was able to create LLIV so as to keep their kids rather than have to feel rejected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not in region 2. Is anyone in region 2 willing to report this school's actions to the school board, region 2, and Phyllis Pajardo?

Before you start reporting, you better check all your facts. There are other schools in the same boat!

I'm happy to report them all. Which other ones do you know of? The other possibilities I can see are Columbia, Halley, Poplar Tree, and Chesterbrook. Poplar Tree is less of an issue this coming year since they are becoming a new center. Chesterbrook historically has had very large AAP classes, so I'm guessing the one low class was just an anomaly this year. I don't know about Columbia and Halley yet. Shrevewood's credibility is at stake now because the principal deliberately gave more teachers than necessary to 3rd and 4th grade AAP students to appease the AAP parents specifically and she did this repeatedly for the two years this LLIV program has been in existence.

I don't think "credibility" is the right word. It sounds like the principal was upfront about her intentions and did what she said she would do. You might question her judgment, but not her credibility.

Did FCPS really need to make LLIV available in that many schools in that area? It seems the result has been to promote a bidding war among principals to attract a finite number of AAP-eligible kids who'll boost their test scores.

It's pretty clear that this is/was FCPS' way of "apologizing" for the whole Haycock issue, where many Haycock parents were more than happy to kick out the Shrevewood kids from the AAP center. So as to not further ruffle feathers, Shrevewood was able to create LLIV so as to keep their kids rather than have to feel rejected.

Haycock is undergoing a renovation because it is still so crowded. FCPS didn't need to do anything to those students. Those students were allowed to stay at Haycock for years longer than they should have. This principal is shady and I would distrust anything from her including the actual AAP referrals from her school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not in region 2. Is anyone in region 2 willing to report this school's actions to the school board, region 2, and Phyllis Pajardo?

Before you start reporting, you better check all your facts. There are other schools in the same boat!

I'm happy to report them all. Which other ones do you know of? The other possibilities I can see are Columbia, Halley, Poplar Tree, and Chesterbrook. Poplar Tree is less of an issue this coming year since they are becoming a new center. Chesterbrook historically has had very large AAP classes, so I'm guessing the one low class was just an anomaly this year. I don't know about Columbia and Halley yet. Shrevewood's credibility is at stake now because the principal deliberately gave more teachers than necessary to 3rd and 4th grade AAP students to appease the AAP parents specifically and she did this repeatedly for the two years this LLIV program has been in existence.

I don't think "credibility" is the right word. It sounds like the principal was upfront about her intentions and did what she said she would do. You might question her judgment, but not her credibility.

Did FCPS really need to make LLIV available in that many schools in that area? It seems the result has been to promote a bidding war among principals to attract a finite number of AAP-eligible kids who'll boost their test scores.

It's pretty clear that this is/was FCPS' way of "apologizing" for the whole Haycock issue, where many Haycock parents were more than happy to kick out the Shrevewood kids from the AAP center. So as to not further ruffle feathers, Shrevewood was able to create LLIV so as to keep their kids rather than have to feel rejected.

Do you really think FCPS was in the know about this? I'm just so disgusted. My kid and plenty others are sitting in classes over 30 kids and this school has 13-15 in their AAP classes!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not in region 2. Is anyone in region 2 willing to report this school's actions to the school board, region 2, and Phyllis Pajardo?

Before you start reporting, you better check all your facts. There are other schools in the same boat!

I'm happy to report them all. Which other ones do you know of? The other possibilities I can see are Columbia, Halley, Poplar Tree, and Chesterbrook. Poplar Tree is less of an issue this coming year since they are becoming a new center. Chesterbrook historically has had very large AAP classes, so I'm guessing the one low class was just an anomaly this year. I don't know about Columbia and Halley yet. Shrevewood's credibility is at stake now because the principal deliberately gave more teachers than necessary to 3rd and 4th grade AAP students to appease the AAP parents specifically and she did this repeatedly for the two years this LLIV program has been in existence.

I don't think "credibility" is the right word. It sounds like the principal was upfront about her intentions and did what she said she would do. You might question her judgment, but not her credibility.

Did FCPS really need to make LLIV available in that many schools in that area? It seems the result has been to promote a bidding war among principals to attract a finite number of AAP-eligible kids who'll boost their test scores.

It's pretty clear that this is/was FCPS' way of "apologizing" for the whole Haycock issue, where many Haycock parents were more than happy to kick out the Shrevewood kids from the AAP center. So as to not further ruffle feathers, Shrevewood was able to create LLIV so as to keep their kids rather than have to feel rejected.

That cannot be true! They are not even the same kids. There are kids who has to switch schools from Haycock to Lemon Road, but not these kids. These kids were the following year so they never went to Haycock. They started in third at either the new LR center or Shrevewood LLIV.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not in region 2. Is anyone in region 2 willing to report this school's actions to the school board, region 2, and Phyllis Pajardo?

Before you start reporting, you better check all your facts. There are other schools in the same boat!

I'm happy to report them all. Which other ones do you know of? The other possibilities I can see are Columbia, Halley, Poplar Tree, and Chesterbrook. Poplar Tree is less of an issue this coming year since they are becoming a new center. Chesterbrook historically has had very large AAP classes, so I'm guessing the one low class was just an anomaly this year. I don't know about Columbia and Halley yet. Shrevewood's credibility is at stake now because the principal deliberately gave more teachers than necessary to 3rd and 4th grade AAP students to appease the AAP parents specifically and she did this repeatedly for the two years this LLIV program has been in existence.

I don't think "credibility" is the right word. It sounds like the principal was upfront about her intentions and did what she said she would do. You might question her judgment, but not her credibility.

Did FCPS really need to make LLIV available in that many schools in that area? It seems the result has been to promote a bidding war among principals to attract a finite number of AAP-eligible kids who'll boost their test scores.

It's pretty clear that this is/was FCPS' way of "apologizing" for the whole Haycock issue, where many Haycock parents were more than happy to kick out the Shrevewood kids from the AAP center. So as to not further ruffle feathers, Shrevewood was able to create LLIV so as to keep their kids rather than have to feel rejected.

That cannot be true! They are not even the same kids. There are kids who has to switch schools from Haycock to Lemon Road, but not these kids. These kids were the following year so they never went to Haycock. They started in third at either the new LR center or Shrevewood LLIV.

Different poster here, but I think the suggestion is that FCPS tried to placate those families by telling them that FCPS was going to put the "McLean model" in place in the Marshall pyramid, where there's both a center school (Lemon Road, like Haycock) and multiple schools in the pyramid with LLIV (Shrevewood, etc., like Chesterbrook, etc.). It wouldn't necessarily be the same kids, but it might be the same families, and it was part of justifying the realignment that pulled some AAP kids out of Haycock.

The difference seems to be that there are fewer LLIV-eligible students, so the competition to get them is more overt, which is how you end up with a principal prepared to have a 13 or 14-student class composed only of LLIV-eligible students. Maybe that will change over time, as more parents become aware of the LLIV options within the Marshall pyramid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not in region 2. Is anyone in region 2 willing to report this school's actions to the school board, region 2, and Phyllis Pajardo?

Before you start reporting, you better check all your facts. There are other schools in the same boat!

I'm happy to report them all. Which other ones do you know of? The other possibilities I can see are Columbia, Halley, Poplar Tree, and Chesterbrook. Poplar Tree is less of an issue this coming year since they are becoming a new center. Chesterbrook historically has had very large AAP classes, so I'm guessing the one low class was just an anomaly this year. I don't know about Columbia and Halley yet. Shrevewood's credibility is at stake now because the principal deliberately gave more teachers than necessary to 3rd and 4th grade AAP students to appease the AAP parents specifically and she did this repeatedly for the two years this LLIV program has been in existence.

I don't think "credibility" is the right word. It sounds like the principal was upfront about her intentions and did what she said she would do. You might question her judgment, but not her credibility.

Did FCPS really need to make LLIV available in that many schools in that area? It seems the result has been to promote a bidding war among principals to attract a finite number of AAP-eligible kids who'll boost their test scores.

It's pretty clear that this is/was FCPS' way of "apologizing" for the whole Haycock issue, where many Haycock parents were more than happy to kick out the Shrevewood kids from the AAP center. So as to not further ruffle feathers, Shrevewood was able to create LLIV so as to keep their kids rather than have to feel rejected.

That cannot be true! They are not even the same kids. There are kids who has to switch schools from Haycock to Lemon Road, but not these kids. These kids were the following year so they never went to Haycock. They started in third at either the new LR center or Shrevewood LLIV.

Different poster here, but I think the suggestion is that FCPS tried to placate those families by telling them that FCPS was going to put the "McLean model" in place in the Marshall pyramid, where there's both a center school (Lemon Road, like Haycock) and multiple schools in the pyramid with LLIV (Shrevewood, etc., like Chesterbrook, etc.). It wouldn't necessarily be the same kids, but it might be the same families, and it was part of justifying the realignment that pulled some AAP kids out of Haycock.

The difference seems to be that there are fewer LLIV-eligible students, so the competition to get them is more overt, which is how you end up with a principal prepared to have a 13 or 14-student class composed only of LLIV-eligible students. Maybe that will change over time, as more parents become aware of the LLIV options within the Marshall pyramid.

Get over yourself. You fought for years not to break up Haycock. FCPS did not need to placate Shrevewood families at all. They moved the kids all of about 1 mile to another school for the center after they couldn't hold the kids any longer. For years Haycock didn't even have an art room and waiting lists for SACC at least 10 years long. No huge bussing problem or anything to switch from Haycock to Lemon Road. This principal needs to even things out so that other grades aren't suffering at the result of keeping AAP kids all in one class by themselves. It's unsustainable as well as just cruel to the other children at the school who need the smaller classes more.

[Anonymous]

In other words, Haycock's overcrowding was known for at least 5 years, but parents at Shrevewood kept whining and insisting that their AAP children still attend there. So eventually FCPS had to make a clean cut. If they had switched to Lemon Road 3 years earlier, those same students would have stayed at Haycock with no others coming in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not in region 2. Is anyone in region 2 willing to report this school's actions to the school board, region 2, and Phyllis Pajardo?

Before you start reporting, you better check all your facts. There are other schools in the same boat!

I'm happy to report them all. Which other ones do you know of? The other possibilities I can see are Columbia, Halley, Poplar Tree, and Chesterbrook. Poplar Tree is less of an issue this coming year since they are becoming a new center. Chesterbrook historically has had very large AAP classes, so I'm guessing the one low class was just an anomaly this year. I don't know about Columbia and Halley yet. Shrevewood's credibility is at stake now because the principal deliberately gave more teachers than necessary to 3rd and 4th grade AAP students to appease the AAP parents specifically and she did this repeatedly for the two years this LLIV program has been in existence.

I don't think "credibility" is the right word. It sounds like the principal was upfront about her intentions and did what she said she would do. You might question her judgment, but not her credibility.

Did FCPS really need to make LLIV available in that many schools in that area? It seems the result has been to promote a bidding war among principals to attract a finite number of AAP-eligible kids who'll boost their test scores.

It's pretty clear that this is/was FCPS' way of "apologizing" for the whole Haycock issue, where many Haycock parents were more than happy to kick out the Shrevewood kids from the AAP center. So as to not further ruffle feathers, Shrevewood was able to create LLIV so as to keep their kids rather than have to feel rejected.

That cannot be true! They are not even the same kids. There are kids who has to switch schools from Haycock to Lemon Road, but not these kids. These kids were the following year so they never went to Haycock. They started in third at either the new LR center or Shrevewood LLIV.

Different poster here, but I think the suggestion is that FCPS tried to placate those families by telling them that FCPS was going to put the "McLean model" in place in the Marshall pyramid, where there's both a center school (Lemon Road, like Haycock) and multiple schools in the pyramid with LLIV (Shrevewood, etc., like Chesterbrook, etc.). It wouldn't necessarily be the same kids, but it might be the same families, and it was part of justifying the realignment that pulled some AAP kids out of Haycock.

The difference seems to be that there are fewer LLIV-eligible students, so the competition to get them is more overt, which is how you end up with a principal prepared to have a 13 or 14-student class composed only of LLIV-eligible students. Maybe that will change over time, as more parents become aware of the LLIV options within the Marshall pyramid.

Get over yourself. You fought for years not to break up Haycock. FCPS did not need to placate Shrevewood families at all. They moved the kids all of about 1 mile to another school for the center after they couldn't hold the kids any longer. For years Haycock didn't even have an art room and waiting lists for SACC at least 10 years long. No huge bussing problem or anything to switch from Haycock to Lemon Road. This principal needs to even things out so that other grades aren't suffering at the result of keeping AAP kids all in one class by themselves. It's unsustainable as well as just cruel to the other children at the school who need the smaller classes more.

Calm down. I'm just interpreting what's happened. I didn't fight for, or with, anyone.

[Anonymous]

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It's pretty clear that this is/was FCPS' way of "apologizing" for the whole Haycock issue, where many Haycock parents were more than happy to kick out the Shrevewood kids from the AAP center. So as to not further ruffle feathers, Shrevewood was able to create LLIV so as to keep their kids rather than have to feel rejected.

Do you really think FCPS was in the know about this? I'm just so disgusted. My kid and plenty others are sitting in classes over 30 kids and this school has 13-15 in their AAP classes!

If you want to be credible then you shouldn't exaggerate. It's a 15 person class. Look at the data.

There are approximately 180 classrooms in FCPS with 15 or fewer students. Are you disgusted with them as well? Or just this one because it has AAP kids in it?

If you just dislike the AAP classes, then of those 180 classrooms you should also focus on:

Beech Tree - 3rd grade
Mason Crest - 5th grade
Riverside - 3rd grade

They also only have 15 kids in the class and there are AAP kids in those classrooms. Go to town.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's pretty clear that this is/was FCPS' way of "apologizing" for the whole Haycock issue, where many Haycock parents were more than happy to kick out the Shrevewood kids from the AAP center. So as to not further ruffle feathers, Shrevewood was able to create LLIV so as to keep their kids rather than have to feel rejected.

Do you really think FCPS was in the know about this? I'm just so disgusted. My kid and plenty others are sitting in classes over 30 kids and this school has 13-15 in their AAP classes!

If you want to be credible then you shouldn't exaggerate. It's a 15 person class. Look at the data.

There are approximately 180 classrooms in FCPS with 15 or fewer students. Are you disgusted with them as well? Or just this one because it has AAP kids in it?

If you just dislike the AAP classes, then of those 180 classrooms you should also focus on:

Beech Tree - 3rd grade
Mason Crest - 5th grade
Riverside - 3rd grade

They also only have 15 kids in the class and there are AAP kids in those classrooms. Go to town.



Ah, a member of the Shrevewood LLIV elite who is feeling threatened that her snowflake might have to mix with gen Ed kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's pretty clear that this is/was FCPS' way of "apologizing" for the whole Haycock issue, where many Haycock parents were more than happy to kick out the Shrevewood kids from the AAP center. So as to not further ruffle feathers, Shrevewood was able to create LLIV so as to keep their kids rather than have to feel rejected.

Do you really think FCPS was in the know about this? I'm just so disgusted. My kid and plenty others are sitting in classes over 30 kids and this school has 13-15 in their AAP classes!

If you want to be credible then you shouldn't exaggerate. It's a 15 person class. Look at the data.

There are approximately 180 classrooms in FCPS with 15 or fewer students. Are you disgusted with them as well? Or just this one because it has AAP kids in it?

If you just dislike the AAP classes, then of those 180 classrooms you should also focus on:

Beech Tree - 3rd grade
Mason Crest - 5th grade
Riverside - 3rd grade

They also only have 15 kids in the class and there are AAP kids in those classrooms. Go to town.



Those are all Title I schools. Quite a difference from Shrevewood. One of them looked like it was in jeopardy of losing its state accreditation.

[Anonymous]

I thought Shrevewood was a Title I school.. High number of FARMS and ESOL kids.

[Anonymous]

Nope