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Anonymous
Title 1 I believe doesn't extend past third grade. But good to know those schools might have more needs than others. |
Anonymous
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Thanks for the excel file.
Looks like pretty much all of the other LLIV schools infill with GE or principal placed AAP to fill in their class sizes and keep it relatively consistent across the school. It's a big excel file so perhaps I missed some Interesting to see from that classsizecounts site that it did a FOIA and learned that there are over 1,000 FCPS elementary school classrooms that have a class size of 20 or less, so I guess it is not that uncommon. It just looks like Shrevewood just doesn't infill or principal place; sucks a bit for those other teachers but it's not that bad. For example the 4th grade AAP class is 15 kids, but the other three 4th grade classes are 20, 21, and 22 kids. I guess they could principal place 3 kids into the LLIV class to make it 18, 20, 20 and 20 but that mountains out of a molehill. The fiscally responsible thing would move one teacher and turn it into three classes of 26 kids each. That's not going to happen. Parents would be up in arms, especially if you compare it to nearby schools like Lemon Road. 4th grade LR class sizes are 19 (AAP), 19 (AAP), 22 and 23 (combined 4+5 class). You can't take a teacher away from Shrevewood if Lemon Road has that sort of class size also. |
Anonymous
Very true and very shady. She made that arrangement to ensure that parents wouldn't jump ship and send their kids over to LR. Despite these (and other$ concessions, test scores have been on the decline under her administration and Gen Ed class sizes have expanded beyond their 30-student capacities... |
Anonymous
She should not be creating combination classes and having kindergarten classes in the high 20's just to make an AAP class of 14 kids. For all I know this school got an extra teacher beyond what they should have. Phyllis Pajardo agreed that many schools gave false data about their numbers to get additional teachers and then FCPS decided not to pull the teachers. They say they will next year after the 10th day. I still think this school needs some serious oversight. And if Garza thinks other schools are going to stand for class sizes over 30 while Shrevewood AAP classes are well under 20, she better be willing to allow transfers into the school. |
Anonymous
| I am not in region 2. Is anyone in region 2 willing to report this school's actions to the school board, region 2, and Phyllis Pajardo? |
Anonymous
You can do it yourself looking at the AAPAC report. But if you're interested in class size, then look at the excel file the PP linked to. There are a lot of elementary schools with class sizes of 20-22, AAP and not. I just scrolled through and specifically looked at the AAP/LLIV schools I listed (they all infilled the classes to get around 20 kids per class, for the most part), but in skimming the entire file I saw lots of classes with 22 and under. 15 kids per those two classes at Shrevewood is a bit low though. I don't know how Special Ed works in FCPS, so I don't fully understand the excel file when it list classes of 10 kids or less. But if you look at the number of classes that have between 13 kids (arbitrary lower limit to weed out the special needs classrooms) and 19 kids, you're looking at about 1,000 class rooms. That's a lot of teachers to cut and it just ain't gonna happen. |
Anonymous
I think there's an imbalance across the entire FCPS in part because it is hard to move teachers around the system (because each school's admin wants to consolidate power and keep their FTEs). Lemon Road has 22 total classrooms and 13 out of 22 of them have classes with 22 or fewer kids. Isn't FCPS planning on putting class size caps for 2015-2016 school year? Read reports that it will be capped at 27 for 1-3 and 30 for 4-6. http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20150320/NEWS/150329848&source=RSS&template=gazette |
Anonymous
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There is no total given in that class size counts FOIA request, so you have to add up the students in all of the columns to find out how many children are really in each classroom. Below is the list of students listed in AAP who are in classrooms under 20. I sorted by AAP and then by class size. It isn't a large number of classes. Of course Shrevewood is only listed once because they didn't bother to identify their 3rd grade classroom as AAP. The only LLIV programs that have less than 20 students in a class are at Columbia, Halley, Poplar Tree, Chesterbrook, and Shrevewood Elementaries. LLIV programs are supposed to allow mixing of children. Centers as a rule throughout FCPS do not mix the GE and AAP children.
BEECH TREE ELEM 03 AAP* 15 RIVERSIDE ELEM 03 AAP* 15 SHREVEWOOD ELEM 04 AAP* 15 RIVERSIDE ELEM 04 AAP 16 BEECH TREE ELEM 04 AAP* 16 COLUMBIA ELEM 03 AAP 17 RIVERSIDE ELEM 04 AAP 17 MASON CREST ELEM 05 AAP* 17 RIVERSIDE ELEM 06 AAP 18 RIVERSIDE ELEM 03 AAP 18 CLEARVIEW ELEM 06 AAP 18 MASON CREST ELEM 05 AAP* 18 DEER PARK ELEM 04 AAP* 18 SANGSTER ELEM 03 AAP 19 LEMON ROAD ELEM 04 AAP* 19 WESTLAWN ELEM 04 AAP* 19 MASON CREST ELEM 05 AAP* 19 HALLEY ELEM 05 AAP* 19 DEER PARK ELEM 05 AAP* 19 MASON CREST ELEM 03 AAP* 19 MASON CREST ELEM 05 AAP* 19 GLEN FOREST ELEM 04 AAP* 19 MASON CREST ELEM 03 AAP* 19 LEMON ROAD ELEM 04 AAP* 19 TIMBER LANE ELEM 06 AAP* 19 POPLAR TREE ELEM 05 AAP* 19 CHESTERBROOK ELEM06 AAP* 19 |
Anonymous
Meant to list the school that have LLIV programs that aren't in Title 1 or Priority schools. |
Anonymous
This is the first article I've read that caps the classes for the beginning of the year at least. From there though, the class size can increase. One aide for the grade is allocated until all classes in a grade read the state cap limit. So if you have four fourth grade classes of 30 students, You could get an influx of 20 more students and one aide before getting an additional teacher in place of the aide. |
Anonymous
Thanks for this. Lemon Road is a center and not an LLIV and it mixes in some GE kids in the AAP classrooms. Or for the combined 4-5 classroom, LR mixes 3 AAP kids with 20 GE kids. |
Anonymous
True, but you're cherry picking a bit with that hyperbole of influx of 20 kids.. over four fourth grade classes. You can simply say if you have a fourth grade class of 30 kids and then an additional net 5 kids come in during the school year all you get is an additional aide. So 30 kids = 1 teacher. 35 kids = 1 teacher + 1 aide. Much less hyperbole and much more reasonable sounding, which is why FCPS does it that way. |
Anonymous
True, but you're cherry picking a bit with that hyperbole of influx of 20 kids.. over four fourth grade classes. You can simply say if you have a fourth grade class of 30 kids and then an additional net 5 kids come in during the school year all you get is an additional aide. So 30 kids = 1 teacher. 35 kids = 1 teacher + 1 aide. Much less hyperbole and much more reasonable sounding, which is why FCPS does it that way. |
Anonymous
| The aide isn't for each classroom. The aide is given across the entire grade. Most schools have at least 3 classes per grade and I think the average is four. We've asked about this in depth and were told all classes needed to reach the state class cap or even go above before a new teacher was allocated. |
Anonymous
So why should Shrevewood get away with creating a class of just AAP students if they are well under their average of 25 students per teacher? |