You don't blame the girls here? So if they voluntarily took nude pictures of themselves and then shared it with someone else that's fine with you? No blame there? That's why girls will continue to make idiotic decisions. It doesn't matter if they didn't intend wide distribution, sharing a nude pic with even one person is unacceptable "foul" behavior. Where are their morals? The only blameless people in this scenario would be any girls who did not voluntarily pose for the pictures. The others have equal culpability as the boys. Stop giving them a pass. |
To answer your questions in bolded (which is more than I should because you're deflecting my point): 1) No, I don't blame the girls here. 2) Even if a girl took a selfie or posed individually, what they did was not criminal nor hurtful to others. One could argue it was poor judgment, fine. But it was still a private gesture if shared with "someone else" -- not the world. There is also a big difference between personal expression (the sharing of one photograph) and outright exploitation (the compilation of photographs with the intent of mass distribution for purposes of objectification and/or humiliation). 3) So, no. The word "blame" does not belong in the same sentence as "the girls." Do you also believe that women invite rape by how they dress? |
There is no source on record indicating these pictures were.taken either voluntarily or involuntarily. Gathering and organizing pictures into one site took time and effort; there would have been plenty of time to reflect and realize how wrong it is to compile and distribute those pictures. It is doing the perpetrators no favor to make excuses and blame others.
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If you post on social media, you have no reasonable expectation to control what the recipient does with that post/pic/info. Zero. None. Nada. And if you're not reminding your kids of that fact at every opportunity, then you are doing them a tremendous disservice. |
Whether or not "blame" is a word that should be used, the girls should accept responsibility for their actions. |
7:18- That is true, but it is also true that parents should make sure that their kids know that it is unacceptable to purposely engage in activity that will hurt and humiliate another. It is one thing to do something foolish, it is quite another to spend time and effort engaged in a project the the perpetrators knew could at the very least embarrass the victims and at the most could put them in harm's way. What if the wrong person had gained access to this site? Apparently names were attached to pictures, so the wrong person could have tracked down those in these pictures and easily found out where they live. That's a scary thought.
I'd be upset if my child did something foolish, but I'd be more upset if my child did something that was mean and hurtful to others. |
Feminism failure. ![]() |
Natural consequences. If you publicly post anything, you lose ability to control that anything. That's the lesson. |
Wow, I feel like I've stepped back into a different decade here reading some of the posts that excuse this behavior and try to place the blame on others. Are we going to hear "Boys will be boys!" next? Mean-spirited behavior that puts others at risk of harm is never acceptable. Why would we ever want kids to grow up to think it is okay to hurt others and possibly put them in danger? |
We don't know if the girls were taking pictures and intending to share them with the world. If so, that is a separate discussion from what this sophomore did -- which was basically act as the "gatekeeper" to this dropbox folder. |
Everyone (especially teenagers) has awkward or embarassing moments. The difference b/t 30 yrs ago and today is that everyone has a camera at the ready to memorialize the moments of bad judgment.
I'd don't know what the girls did voluntarily or not. I do know that exploiting other people for your own popularity or entertainment is far worse than anyone's bad decision about their own modesty or privacy. I would want to teach my kids that even if someone is foolish, you don't take advantage of that just for sport. |
No wonder kids don't understand that they are responsible for their own actions and cannot control what others do. Especially when it comes to social media. The parents here are ignorant of the fact. |
+1. I recently had a parent of a 16-year-old tell me, "I don't like his drinking, but as long as he keeps his grades up...." W.T.F. |
I think it is possible to know that there are great things happening every day at any given school and at the same time lament the bad things that are also happening on a daily basis. |
My kids have "dumb" phones. Solves a boat-load of potential problems. It's quite easy to provide your child with an alarm clock. My kids have those, too. |