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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I was recently at a barbecue where a little girl got humped by a dog. The little girl didn't realize what was happening -- she thought the dog was "hugging" her. The men -- MEN -- stood around making comments about how it's a shame this wasn't recorded and put on social media because it would go viral. They were fucking admiring the dog.

Men are foul. I don't blame the girls here. I blame the boy, and if the senior is 18, I hope this follows him around for the rest of his life.


You don't blame the girls here? So if they voluntarily took nude pictures of themselves and then shared it with someone else that's fine with you? No blame there? That's why girls will continue to make idiotic decisions. It doesn't matter if they didn't intend wide distribution, sharing a nude pic with even one person is unacceptable "foul" behavior. Where are their morals? The only blameless people in this scenario would be any girls who did not voluntarily pose for the pictures. The others have equal culpability as the boys. Stop giving them a pass.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was recently at a barbecue where a little girl got humped by a dog. The little girl didn't realize what was happening -- she thought the dog was "hugging" her. The men -- MEN -- stood around making comments about how it's a shame this wasn't recorded and put on social media because it would go viral. They were fucking admiring the dog.

Men are foul. I don't blame the girls here. I blame the boy, and if the senior is 18, I hope this follows him around for the rest of his life.


You don't blame the girls here? So if they voluntarily took nude pictures of themselves and then shared it with someone else that's fine with you? No blame there? That's why girls will continue to make idiotic decisions. It doesn't matter if they didn't intend wide distribution, sharing a nude pic with even one person is unacceptable "foul" behavior. Where are their morals? The only blameless people in this scenario would be any girls who did not voluntarily pose for the pictures. The others have equal culpability as the boys. Stop giving them a pass.


To answer your questions in bolded (which is more than I should because you're deflecting my point):

1) No, I don't blame the girls here.

2) Even if a girl took a selfie or posed individually, what they did was not criminal nor hurtful to others. One could argue it was poor judgment, fine. But it was still a private gesture if shared with "someone else" -- not the world. There is also a big difference between personal expression (the sharing of one photograph) and outright exploitation (the compilation of photographs with the intent of mass distribution for purposes of objectification and/or humiliation).

3) So, no. The word "blame" does not belong in the same sentence as "the girls."

Do you also believe that women invite rape by how they dress?


Anonymous
There is no source on record indicating these pictures were.taken either voluntarily or involuntarily. Gathering and organizing pictures into one site took time and effort; there would have been plenty of time to reflect and realize how wrong it is to compile and distribute those pictures. It is doing the perpetrators no favor to make excuses and blame others.
Anonymous
If you post on social media, you have no reasonable expectation to control what the recipient does with that post/pic/info. Zero. None. Nada. And if you're not reminding your kids of that fact at every opportunity, then you are doing them a tremendous disservice.
Anonymous
Whether or not "blame" is a word that should be used, the girls should accept responsibility for their actions.
Anonymous
7:18- That is true, but it is also true that parents should make sure that their kids know that it is unacceptable to purposely engage in activity that will hurt and humiliate another. It is one thing to do something foolish, it is quite another to spend time and effort engaged in a project the the perpetrators knew could at the very least embarrass the victims and at the most could put them in harm's way. What if the wrong person had gained access to this site? Apparently names were attached to pictures, so the wrong person could have tracked down those in these pictures and easily found out where they live. That's a scary thought.

I'd be upset if my child did something foolish, but I'd be more upset if my child did something that was mean and hurtful to others.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:FYI..the girls took the pictures of themselves and sent them out themselves through various means..fb, twitter, email. Nobody else took pictures of them.


And these two boys compiled and aggregated them into a repository. Their crime is far more serious than whatever foolishness the girls did.


Feminism failure. The girls knew what they were doing, and to whom their photos were sent, and for which purpose. Girls equally culpable. Equal "foolishness".
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:7:18- That is true, but it is also true that parents should make sure that their kids know that it is unacceptable to purposely engage in activity that will hurt and humiliate another. It is one thing to do something foolish, it is quite another to spend time and effort engaged in a project the the perpetrators knew could at the very least embarrass the victims and at the most could put them in harm's way. What if the wrong person had gained access to this site? Apparently names were attached to pictures, so the wrong person could have tracked down those in these pictures and easily found out where they live. That's a scary thought.

I'd be upset if my child did something foolish, but I'd be more upset if my child did something that was mean and hurtful to others.

Natural consequences. If you publicly post anything, you lose ability to control that anything. That's the lesson.
Anonymous

Wow, I feel like I've stepped back into a different decade here reading some of the posts that excuse this behavior and try to place the blame on others. Are we going to hear "Boys will be boys!" next? Mean-spirited behavior that puts others at risk of harm is never acceptable. Why would we ever want kids to grow up to think it is okay to hurt others and possibly put them in danger?
Anonymous
We don't know if the girls were taking pictures and intending to share them with the world. If so, that is a separate discussion from what this sophomore did -- which was basically act as the "gatekeeper" to this dropbox folder.
Anonymous
Everyone (especially teenagers) has awkward or embarassing moments. The difference b/t 30 yrs ago and today is that everyone has a camera at the ready to memorialize the moments of bad judgment.

I'd don't know what the girls did voluntarily or not. I do know that exploiting other people for your own popularity or entertainment is far worse than anyone's bad decision about their own modesty or privacy.

I would want to teach my kids that even if someone is foolish, you don't take advantage of that just for sport.
Anonymous
No wonder kids don't understand that they are responsible for their own actions and cannot control what others do. Especially when it comes to social media. The parents here are ignorant of the fact.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Preteens and teens with too much freedom or parents that are too busy end up using their dumb teen brains to parent themselves. The teen brain will make bad decisions! Preteens and teens need parents to help them through the land mines of hormones, sex, alcohol, drugs etc. Do not assume anything with a teenager. Also be a good role model. Parents should not drink often, do drugs, gossip, and should teach kids how to be modest, caring, respectful of themselves and others, and how to maintain their reputation. Being a teenager is tough. Teenagers need good parents! Parents today are too obsessed with good grades and getting into the right college. But look at the reality. Parents should spend more time worrying if they are sending their kids off to a school with lots of binge drinking and hooking up. Teenage and college students do not seem to respect each other anymore. It is all about getting the best grades and the into the best school to get the best job. Respectful dating relationships now are seen as a waste of time and young adults think that the opposite sex is just their to use. People need to make quality respectful relationships a priority.


+1 Very well said.

Agree. The social climate of your child's school is so much more critical than the cut-throat academic climate.


+1. I recently had a parent of a 16-year-old tell me, "I don't like his drinking, but as long as he keeps his grades up...."

W.T.F.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Parents today are too obsessed with good grades and getting into the right college. But look at the reality. Parents should spend more time worrying if they are sending their kids off to a school with lots of binge drinking and hooking up. Teenage and college students do not seem to respect each other anymore. It is all about getting the best grades and the into the best school to get the best job.


Parents need to set the tone. When a child's life revolves around getting better test scores and course grades than everyone else, morals take a far distant second place. Rearing a child of good moral character is far more admirable than turning that child into the class valedictorian.
Making excuses for a teen's bad behavior and poor choices does them no favors in the long run: it only teaches them that they can do what they want with no consequences.


There are lots of great things taking place every day at schools like McLean and Langley. They don't get as much attention, of course, as they don't give others the same opportunity to engage in moral grandstanding. Here's one:

http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/news/2014/apr/30/all-night-long-relay-life/

But, hope your exercise in pontification made you feel better.


I think it is possible to know that there are great things happening every day at any given school and at the same time lament the bad things that are also happening on a daily basis.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Kids don't wear watches these days or use alarm clocks. They rely on their cell phones to tell the time and set their alarms.

It's hard to know what should be turned on and what should be turned off, particularly when kids are a year or two from being sent off to live on their own. It was much much easier when all parents had to say was no TV on school nights, or no TV after 10.


My kids have "dumb" phones. Solves a boat-load of potential problems.

It's quite easy to provide your child with an alarm clock. My kids have those, too.
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