Question for thick-skinned, overweight men and women

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of excuses on this thread: Fat people are healthy. Fat people are depressed. Thin people are jerks. It's impossible to lose weight. Exercise doesn't work. Cutting back calories doesn't work. It's my ethnicity. It's my body type. It's okay if I'm fat because I do triathalons. I overeat instead of keeping a bottle of booze in my desk drawer.

No, the jerk PP admits she's fat. I don't think anyone else was called a jerk. Minor point, I know....

Ah, okay. Let's cut that one off the list.

I was just struck by all the helplessness expressed here by women who are overweight: I can't, I won't, it's impossible, it's not my fault, it's inevitable. It's so defeatist. It's not everyone posting here, but it's the majority.

There was another recent thread in which an OP asked for general advice for losing a few pounds. Some people suggested exercise. And cutting calories. And several militant and rather angry posters went nuts saying that exercise does not work, running does not work, exercise makes you eat more, you'll get fatter with exercise.

It's like they firmly believe that losing weight through exercise and proper nutrition is impossible. So why bother? And how DARE you bring it up?

These are the same beliefs expressed here. Hopeless and very defensive.

I'm the so-called "jerk pp". I agree with everything you said. I gained weight after a medical procedure. I knew I was gaining weight, but didn't care. Now I care and I'm doing something about it. I just don't understand why overweight people seem outraged when you point out to them that their lifestyle is unhealthy. I mean seriously, do you need someone to point that out?

[Anonymous]

I actually eat 1600-1700. I gave you my net caloric intake. If you are as fit as you say and you are 40 pounds overweight, you must eat a truckload of calories each day. But, hey do what works for you. I do look forward to meeting my goal weight and going back to 2000 net calories!

and you'll gain a bunch of weight when you do. Good luck with that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of excuses on this thread: Fat people are healthy. Fat people are depressed. Thin people are jerks. It's impossible to lose weight. Exercise doesn't work. Cutting back calories doesn't work. It's my ethnicity. It's my body type. It's okay if I'm fat because I do triathalons. I overeat instead of keeping a bottle of booze in my desk drawer.

No, the jerk PP admits she's fat. I don't think anyone else was called a jerk. Minor point, I know....

Ah, okay. Let's cut that one off the list.

I was just struck by all the helplessness expressed here by women who are overweight: I can't, I won't, it's impossible, it's not my fault, it's inevitable. It's so defeatist. It's not everyone posting here, but it's the majority.

There was another recent thread in which an OP asked for general advice for losing a few pounds. Some people suggested exercise. And cutting calories. And several militant and rather angry posters went nuts saying that exercise does not work, running does not work, exercise makes you eat more, you'll get fatter with exercise.

It's like they firmly believe that losing weight through exercise and proper nutrition is impossible. So why bother? And how DARE you bring it up?

These are the same beliefs expressed here. Hopeless and very defensive.

I'm the so-called "jerk pp". I agree with everything you said. I gained weight after a medical procedure. I knew I was gaining weight, but didn't care. Now I care and I'm doing something about it. I just don't understand why overweight people seem outraged when you point out to them that their lifestyle is unhealthy. I mean seriously, do you need someone to point that out?

That's interesting because I had "Irish twins" and gained way too much weight during both pregnancies. I had to work my butt off (literally) to lose that weight. I chose running and eating small healthy portions (no bad carbs, no junk food). It was HARD but it prepared me for when I turned 40 and the weight started appearing again and I had to work even harder.

So I'm with you! Good luck!

[Anonymous]

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I actually eat 1600-1700. I gave you my net caloric intake. If you are as fit as you say and you are 40 pounds overweight, you must eat a truckload of calories each day. But, hey do what works for you. I do look forward to meeting my goal weight and going back to 2000 net calories!

and you'll gain a bunch of weight when you do. Good luck with that.

Nah, because I'll still be exercising..doing my 2.5 miles a day. So, I'll actually still be coming in under my maintenance caloric intake. But thanks for your hopes for my failure though!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of excuses on this thread: Fat people are healthy. Fat people are depressed. Thin people are jerks. It's impossible to lose weight. Exercise doesn't work. Cutting back calories doesn't work. It's my ethnicity. It's my body type. It's okay if I'm fat because I do triathalons. I overeat instead of keeping a bottle of booze in my desk drawer.

No, the jerk PP admits she's fat. I don't think anyone else was called a jerk. Minor point, I know....

Ah, okay. Let's cut that one off the list.

I was just struck by all the helplessness expressed here by women who are overweight: I can't, I won't, it's impossible, it's not my fault, it's inevitable. It's so defeatist. It's not everyone posting here, but it's the majority.

There was another recent thread in which an OP asked for general advice for losing a few pounds. Some people suggested exercise. And cutting calories. And several militant and rather angry posters went nuts saying that exercise does not work, running does not work, exercise makes you eat more, you'll get fatter with exercise.

It's like they firmly believe that losing weight through exercise and proper nutrition is impossible. So why bother? And how DARE you bring it up?

These are the same beliefs expressed here. Hopeless and very defensive.

I'm the so-called "jerk pp". I agree with everything you said. I gained weight after a medical procedure. I knew I was gaining weight, but didn't care. Now I care and I'm doing something about it. I just don't understand why overweight people seem outraged when you point out to them that their lifestyle is unhealthy. I mean seriously, do you need someone to point that out?

It's funny to me that you are apparently so fed up with people's excuses and yet you continue to say you gained weight "after a medical procedure." BS. That's an excuse just like any other, no more or less valid, it's an excuse. So I don't care about your medical procedure. It's just one of many excuses out there....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of excuses on this thread: Fat people are healthy. Fat people are depressed. Thin people are jerks. It's impossible to lose weight. Exercise doesn't work. Cutting back calories doesn't work. It's my ethnicity. It's my body type. It's okay if I'm fat because I do triathalons. I overeat instead of keeping a bottle of booze in my desk drawer.

No, the jerk PP admits she's fat. I don't think anyone else was called a jerk. Minor point, I know....

Ah, okay. Let's cut that one off the list.

I was just struck by all the helplessness expressed here by women who are overweight: I can't, I won't, it's impossible, it's not my fault, it's inevitable. It's so defeatist. It's not everyone posting here, but it's the majority.

There was another recent thread in which an OP asked for general advice for losing a few pounds. Some people suggested exercise. And cutting calories. And several militant and rather angry posters went nuts saying that exercise does not work, running does not work, exercise makes you eat more, you'll get fatter with exercise.

It's like they firmly believe that losing weight through exercise and proper nutrition is impossible. So why bother? And how DARE you bring it up?

These are the same beliefs expressed here. Hopeless and very defensive.

I'm the so-called "jerk pp". I agree with everything you said. I gained weight after a medical procedure. I knew I was gaining weight, but didn't care. Now I care and I'm doing something about it. I just don't understand why overweight people seem outraged when you point out to them that their lifestyle is unhealthy. I mean seriously, do you need someone to point that out?

It's funny to me that you are apparently so fed up with people's excuses and yet you continue to say you gained weight "after a medical procedure." BS. That's an excuse just like any other, no more or less valid, it's an excuse. So I don't care about your medical procedure. It's just one of many excuses out there....

I'm the poster who noticed all the excuses here. And at least she is working on losing weight and doing well with it.

What I meant by excuses is the whole "I am 230 pounds and if I ever went down to 130, I would be fainting all the time," or the "fat runs in my culture so I was destined to be this way," or the "I can't run to lose weight because then I will eat more and just gain more weight, so it's not worth trying." I wasn't referring to "I gained some weight b/c of a medical issue and now I'm losing it." Totally different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of excuses on this thread: Fat people are healthy. Fat people are depressed. Thin people are jerks. It's impossible to lose weight. Exercise doesn't work. Cutting back calories doesn't work. It's my ethnicity. It's my body type. It's okay if I'm fat because I do triathalons. I overeat instead of keeping a bottle of booze in my desk drawer.

No, the jerk PP admits she's fat. I don't think anyone else was called a jerk. Minor point, I know....

Ah, okay. Let's cut that one off the list.

I was just struck by all the helplessness expressed here by women who are overweight: I can't, I won't, it's impossible, it's not my fault, it's inevitable. It's so defeatist. It's not everyone posting here, but it's the majority.

There was another recent thread in which an OP asked for general advice for losing a few pounds. Some people suggested exercise. And cutting calories. And several militant and rather angry posters went nuts saying that exercise does not work, running does not work, exercise makes you eat more, you'll get fatter with exercise.

It's like they firmly believe that losing weight through exercise and proper nutrition is impossible. So why bother? And how DARE you bring it up?

These are the same beliefs expressed here. Hopeless and very defensive.

I'm the so-called "jerk pp". I agree with everything you said. I gained weight after a medical procedure. I knew I was gaining weight, but didn't care. Now I care and I'm doing something about it. I just don't understand why overweight people seem outraged when you point out to them that their lifestyle is unhealthy. I mean seriously, do you need someone to point that out?

It's funny to me that you are apparently so fed up with people's excuses and yet you continue to say you gained weight "after a medical procedure." BS. That's an excuse just like any other, no more or less valid, it's an excuse. So I don't care about your medical procedure. It's just one of many excuses out there....

I'm the poster who noticed all the excuses here. And at least she is working on losing weight and doing well with it.

What I meant by excuses is the whole "I am 230 pounds and if I ever went down to 130, I would be fainting all the time," or the "fat runs in my culture so I was destined to be this way," or the "I can't run to lose weight because then I will eat more and just gain more weight, so it's not worth trying." I wasn't referring to "I gained some weight b/c of a medical issue and now I'm losing it." Totally different.

5'2" and 194 pounds for a long time and she finally wakes up and decides she now wants to work on it, and you don't think that's just one of the many excuses?? That's crazy! I'm sorry, but surgery doesn't' balloon a 5'2" woman up to 192 pounds without other issues at play, so I laugh my ass off at her medical procedure. Nice try, she's barking up the same tree she's criticizing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of excuses on this thread: Fat people are healthy. Fat people are depressed. Thin people are jerks. It's impossible to lose weight. Exercise doesn't work. Cutting back calories doesn't work. It's my ethnicity. It's my body type. It's okay if I'm fat because I do triathalons. I overeat instead of keeping a bottle of booze in my desk drawer.

No, the jerk PP admits she's fat. I don't think anyone else was called a jerk. Minor point, I know....

Ah, okay. Let's cut that one off the list.

I was just struck by all the helplessness expressed here by women who are overweight: I can't, I won't, it's impossible, it's not my fault, it's inevitable. It's so defeatist. It's not everyone posting here, but it's the majority.

There was another recent thread in which an OP asked for general advice for losing a few pounds. Some people suggested exercise. And cutting calories. And several militant and rather angry posters went nuts saying that exercise does not work, running does not work, exercise makes you eat more, you'll get fatter with exercise.

It's like they firmly believe that losing weight through exercise and proper nutrition is impossible. So why bother? And how DARE you bring it up?

These are the same beliefs expressed here. Hopeless and very defensive.

I'm the so-called "jerk pp". I agree with everything you said. I gained weight after a medical procedure. I knew I was gaining weight, but didn't care. Now I care and I'm doing something about it. I just don't understand why overweight people seem outraged when you point out to them that their lifestyle is unhealthy. I mean seriously, do you need someone to point that out?

It's funny to me that you are apparently so fed up with people's excuses and yet you continue to say you gained weight "after a medical procedure." BS. That's an excuse just like any other, no more or less valid, it's an excuse. So I don't care about your medical procedure. It's just one of many excuses out there....

I'm the poster who noticed all the excuses here. And at least she is working on losing weight and doing well with it.

What I meant by excuses is the whole "I am 230 pounds and if I ever went down to 130, I would be fainting all the time," or the "fat runs in my culture so I was destined to be this way," or the "I can't run to lose weight because then I will eat more and just gain more weight, so it's not worth trying." I wasn't referring to "I gained some weight b/c of a medical issue and now I'm losing it." Totally different.

5'2" and 194 pounds for a long time and she finally wakes up and decides she now wants to work on it, and you don't think that's just one of the many excuses?? That's crazy! I'm sorry, but surgery doesn't' balloon a 5'2" woman up to 192 pounds without other issues at play, so I laugh my ass off at her medical procedure. Nice try, she's barking up the same tree she's criticizing.

Where do you get a long time from? My procedure was 2 years ago and I've slowly gained the 30 pounds over that timeframe. So slowly in fact that I easily accepted my new curves. But I've always weighed more than I "look", so for me weighing 150 is positively fab! But I'll settle for 160...at 160 I was in Bermuda in a 2 piece and I looked fab. I have an hour-glass figure that attributes my weight pretty evenly, so I have always been able to carry my weight well. I think that's part of the reason why I've been able to BS myself into saying "well, I'm just chunky, not fat". That's not good enough. Being so near the 200 lb mark scares the shit out of me and is embarrassing.

BTW, I never said the medical procedure *caused* the weight gain. Just that I started gaining weight after it and I was too lazy to do anything about it. There is a difference, but you're just too defensive to see it. So sad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of excuses on this thread: Fat people are healthy. Fat people are depressed. Thin people are jerks. It's impossible to lose weight. Exercise doesn't work. Cutting back calories doesn't work. It's my ethnicity. It's my body type. It's okay if I'm fat because I do triathalons. I overeat instead of keeping a bottle of booze in my desk drawer.

No, the jerk PP admits she's fat. I don't think anyone else was called a jerk. Minor point, I know....

Ah, okay. Let's cut that one off the list.

I was just struck by all the helplessness expressed here by women who are overweight: I can't, I won't, it's impossible, it's not my fault, it's inevitable. It's so defeatist. It's not everyone posting here, but it's the majority.

There was another recent thread in which an OP asked for general advice for losing a few pounds. Some people suggested exercise. And cutting calories. And several militant and rather angry posters went nuts saying that exercise does not work, running does not work, exercise makes you eat more, you'll get fatter with exercise.

It's like they firmly believe that losing weight through exercise and proper nutrition is impossible. So why bother? And how DARE you bring it up?

These are the same beliefs expressed here. Hopeless and very defensive.

I'm the so-called "jerk pp". I agree with everything you said. I gained weight after a medical procedure. I knew I was gaining weight, but didn't care. Now I care and I'm doing something about it. I just don't understand why overweight people seem outraged when you point out to them that their lifestyle is unhealthy. I mean seriously, do you need someone to point that out?

It's funny to me that you are apparently so fed up with people's excuses and yet you continue to say you gained weight "after a medical procedure." BS. That's an excuse just like any other, no more or less valid, it's an excuse. So I don't care about your medical procedure. It's just one of many excuses out there....

I'm the poster who noticed all the excuses here. And at least she is working on losing weight and doing well with it.

What I meant by excuses is the whole "I am 230 pounds and if I ever went down to 130, I would be fainting all the time," or the "fat runs in my culture so I was destined to be this way," or the "I can't run to lose weight because then I will eat more and just gain more weight, so it's not worth trying." I wasn't referring to "I gained some weight b/c of a medical issue and now I'm losing it." Totally different.

5'2" and 194 pounds for a long time and she finally wakes up and decides she now wants to work on it, and you don't think that's just one of the many excuses?? That's crazy! I'm sorry, but surgery doesn't' balloon a 5'2" woman up to 192 pounds without other issues at play, so I laugh my ass off at her medical procedure. Nice try, she's barking up the same tree she's criticizing.

Where do you get a long time from? My procedure was 2 years ago and I've slowly gained the 30 pounds over that timeframe. So slowly in fact that I easily accepted my new curves. But I've always weighed more than I "look", so for me weighing 150 is positively fab! But I'll settle for 160...at 160 I was in Bermuda in a 2 piece and I looked fab. I have an hour-glass figure that attributes my weight pretty evenly, so I have always been able to carry my weight well. I think that's part of the reason why I've been able to BS myself into saying "well, I'm just chunky, not fat". That's not good enough. Being so near the 200 lb mark scares the shit out of me and is embarrassing.

BTW, I never said the medical procedure *caused* the weight gain. Just that I started gaining weight after it and I was too lazy to do anything about it. There is a difference, but you're just too defensive to see it. So sad.

Not defensive at all, unless you want to include my defending other people. I'm 5'7" and 130. So I got no dog in this race, and I still call BS on you. You are so full of excuses it's laughable. If you weren't such an ass to other people who are struggling, I would never call you out, but honey, 160 at 5'2" is still FAT. REALLY FAT. You got such a long way to go, have fun judging other people. Believe me, they're judging you too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of excuses on this thread: Fat people are healthy. Fat people are depressed. Thin people are jerks. It's impossible to lose weight. Exercise doesn't work. Cutting back calories doesn't work. It's my ethnicity. It's my body type. It's okay if I'm fat because I do triathalons. I overeat instead of keeping a bottle of booze in my desk drawer.

No, the jerk PP admits she's fat. I don't think anyone else was called a jerk. Minor point, I know....

Ah, okay. Let's cut that one off the list.

I was just struck by all the helplessness expressed here by women who are overweight: I can't, I won't, it's impossible, it's not my fault, it's inevitable. It's so defeatist. It's not everyone posting here, but it's the majority.

There was another recent thread in which an OP asked for general advice for losing a few pounds. Some people suggested exercise. And cutting calories. And several militant and rather angry posters went nuts saying that exercise does not work, running does not work, exercise makes you eat more, you'll get fatter with exercise.

It's like they firmly believe that losing weight through exercise and proper nutrition is impossible. So why bother? And how DARE you bring it up?

These are the same beliefs expressed here. Hopeless and very defensive.

I'm the so-called "jerk pp". I agree with everything you said. I gained weight after a medical procedure. I knew I was gaining weight, but didn't care. Now I care and I'm doing something about it. I just don't understand why overweight people seem outraged when you point out to them that their lifestyle is unhealthy. I mean seriously, do you need someone to point that out?

It's funny to me that you are apparently so fed up with people's excuses and yet you continue to say you gained weight "after a medical procedure." BS. That's an excuse just like any other, no more or less valid, it's an excuse. So I don't care about your medical procedure. It's just one of many excuses out there....

I'm the poster who noticed all the excuses here. And at least she is working on losing weight and doing well with it.

What I meant by excuses is the whole "I am 230 pounds and if I ever went down to 130, I would be fainting all the time," or the "fat runs in my culture so I was destined to be this way," or the "I can't run to lose weight because then I will eat more and just gain more weight, so it's not worth trying." I wasn't referring to "I gained some weight b/c of a medical issue and now I'm losing it." Totally different.

5'2" and 194 pounds for a long time and she finally wakes up and decides she now wants to work on it, and you don't think that's just one of the many excuses?? That's crazy! I'm sorry, but surgery doesn't' balloon a 5'2" woman up to 192 pounds without other issues at play, so I laugh my ass off at her medical procedure. Nice try, she's barking up the same tree she's criticizing.

Where do you get a long time from? My procedure was 2 years ago and I've slowly gained the 30 pounds over that timeframe. So slowly in fact that I easily accepted my new curves. But I've always weighed more than I "look", so for me weighing 150 is positively fab! But I'll settle for 160...at 160 I was in Bermuda in a 2 piece and I looked fab. I have an hour-glass figure that attributes my weight pretty evenly, so I have always been able to carry my weight well. I think that's part of the reason why I've been able to BS myself into saying "well, I'm just chunky, not fat". That's not good enough. Being so near the 200 lb mark scares the shit out of me and is embarrassing.

BTW, I never said the medical procedure *caused* the weight gain. Just that I started gaining weight after it and I was too lazy to do anything about it. There is a difference, but you're just too defensive to see it. So sad.

Not defensive at all, unless you want to include my defending other people. I'm 5'7" and 130. So I got no dog in this race, and I still call BS on you. You are so full of excuses it's laughable. If you weren't such an ass to other people who are struggling, I would never call you out, but honey, 160 at 5'2" is still FAT. REALLY FAT. You got such a long way to go, have fun judging other people. Believe me, they're judging you too.

LOL; I agree, it's fat. To me. I look "chunky" to others, but I don't want to be chunky. I want to return to my nice thick curves. You do realize that people carry their weight differently, don't you?

This is me at 160 (in Bermuda...this is what I hope to get back to):


This is me at 170 lbs'ish:


This is me at 180 lbs....


I've always been able to carry my weight well. One of the reasons why I didn't notice my slip from curvy to chunky. But looking at old pictures made me realize it and was a wake-up call and I'm working on it.

And I'm not being an ass, but take it however you wish.

[Anonymous]

Didn't think I had a pic, but this is one of how I look now...give or take 5 lbs. A definite difference from my Bermuda days, but not "really fat" by any means. Sorry.

BTW, I don't mind sharing these pics. It will help folks see that people carry their weight differently. I'm lucky, but I'm not content being close to 200 lbs and chunky.

[Anonymous]

O M G!

I know you PP!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:O M G!

I know you PP!!!

LOL; I doubt it. Otherwise, "Hey".

[Anonymous]

I am probably going to stir the the pot, but I can't help it. Reading your posts, I was wondering if you were a different ethnicity. The reason is...and I am only going to speak for myself and what I think, is that other ethnicities tend to be more comfortable with their bodies, and think that they look great at a certain size (which is great). However, the weight and size a woman of color thinks is beautiful, a woman like me would think (I am fat and need to lose weight).

So I think to answer op's original question (which I kind of forgot at this point), is that everyone has a different perception of their body. I might think, wow I look good in a bikini, but you might think, dang, she needs to cover up!

[Anonymous]

I have to agree with 7:39. Sorry PP but with the photo you posted as being 160 - you wouldn't look perfect in a 2 pc.