Question for thick-skinned, overweight men and women

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the above discussion really shows how distorted our views have become with regard to what is thin, normal, chubby, chunky, fat, obese, etc.

Because over half the population is now overweight, a "normal" sized person now seems downright thin and the chunky person seems normal, and the fat person seems chunky.

But just because our perceptions have changed doesn't change the health issues surrounded with carrying extra weight.

I agree. I'm the poster w/ the pics. Even when I was this weight, I can remember trying to frantically diet to lose 10-15 lbs. Didn't happen and I just went with it and enjoyed my vacation. Now that I'm 30 lbs over this weight, I look back on those pics with envy (even though I wasn't perfect at that size). When you gain weight, you tend to look back on old pictures and think "Why was I so obsessed with losing weight. I looked great!". Perhaps when I finally meet this target goal, I'll remember that I wasn't happy with it in the past and will lose more weight.

I will say that weighing 120-140 lbs is not what I like. I do love how I look in the white dress, so that's what I'm aiming for. If folks thinks that's overweight...well, color me stumped!

O.M.G. The irony of all ironies. This...coming from the woman who for 10 pages bitched to everyone who had "excuses" for not being able to lose their own weight - who called us on our "BS" because of depression or early childhood trauma or other emotional issues...who kept telling everyone to just eat right and exersize.....who just kept saying over and over again "I gained weight from a medical procedure and now want to lose it so I'm doing something about it." HA!!!!! And now it comes out that a few years back you tried "frantically to lose weight and it didn't happen????????" and you "just went with it and enjoyed yourself??????????" That's what we've been trying to tell you for the last 10 pages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How quickly you forget your own struggles (and mindset) being so high up on that soapbox.

[Anonymous]

Linda McCartney vegetarian dead from cancer. There are no guarantees. You can be super fit and healthy, get cancer or be infertile or whatever.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Overweight, obese even carrying it on a 6' frame somitdes not look like it old on others. I have normal cholesterol, blood pressure is typically 115 to 120 over 60s, not diabetic, no health issues.....and that is what is most important. Carrying twins no health issues and no fertility issues. Never had any cancer scares. I know thinner people with some or all of the above problems. I defy what people conventionally think should be fat people problems. I try my best to eat right and get exercise in but am not always perfect about it. The health stats are what I concern myself with, not the scale.

My dad has freakishly great cholesterol readings despite being overweight. Great on paper for blood pressure, all of that. He would pass a physical no problem. He had an angioplasty at around 57, and a heart attack followed by quintuple bypass at around 64. Don't kid yourself. I'm not trying to be mean. I'm telling you these numbers don't always add up to good health.

Neither does being thin. Hence the point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Overweight, obese even carrying it on a 6' frame somitdes not look like it old on others. I have normal cholesterol, blood pressure is typically 115 to 120 over 60s, not diabetic, no health issues.....and that is what is most important. Carrying twins no health issues and no fertility issues. Never had any cancer scares. I know thinner people with some or all of the above problems. I defy what people conventionally think should be fat people problems. I try my best to eat right and get exercise in but am not always perfect about it. The health stats are what I concern myself with, not the scale.

My dad has freakishly great cholesterol readings despite being overweight. Great on paper for blood pressure, all of that. He would pass a physical no problem. He had an angioplasty at around 57, and a heart attack followed by quintuple bypass at around 64. Don't kid yourself. I'm not trying to be mean. I'm telling you these numbers don't always add up to good health.

My grandfather smoked daily and lived a life with no major health complications and passed at 98 due to Alzheimer's related issues. Next...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Overweight, obese even carrying it on a 6' frame somitdes not look like it old on others. I have normal cholesterol, blood pressure is typically 115 to 120 over 60s, not diabetic, no health issues.....and that is what is most important. Carrying twins no health issues and no fertility issues. Never had any cancer scares. I know thinner people with some or all of the above problems. I defy what people conventionally think should be fat people problems. I try my best to eat right and get exercise in but am not always perfect about it. The health stats are what I concern myself with, not the scale.

My dad has freakishly great cholesterol readings despite being overweight. Great on paper for blood pressure, all of that. He would pass a physical no problem. He had an angioplasty at around 57, and a heart attack followed by quintuple bypass at around 64. Don't kid yourself. I'm not trying to be mean. I'm telling you these numbers don't always add up to good health.

My grandfather smoked daily and lived a life with no major health complications and passed at 98 due to Alzheimer's related issues. Next...

So go ahead and smoke every day of your life. Next....

[Anonymous]

This thread really needs to die. If someone is overweight and doesn't want to do anything about it they will find any nugget to justify staying overweight.

Of course there are people with good blood pressure, cholesterol, etc., who are overweight, just like there are people who smoked 2 packs of cigarettes a day and lived until 100, but it cannot be denied that carrying extra fat ups the risk for all sorts of medical problems, ranging from joint problems to heart problems. To deny that is sticking your head in the sand.

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I would like to answer the original question. I am currently still within a healthy weight. BUT I am 34 and have gained quite a lot of weight in the last years. At age 24 I weighed 137 at 5'6". Now, at 34 I weigh 145. That's almost a pound a year, so obviously if I don't do something about this, like significant diet change and getting more exercise, I will one day be obese.

I think that for a lot of people, it's easy for weight to creep on at a pound or two a year as we age and get more sedentary. I've also had one child and am pregnant with number 2 ( I didn't include my current pregnancy weight in the above numbers). Actually having a child did not cause me to gain weight, but getting used to being able to eat more calories while I nursed my son for a year and a half has been a hard habit to break.

I think a lot of people do miss the point where they could easily make diet changes to stop weight gain. I think once you have it it's hard to lose since even just to maintain as you age takes dietary adjustment for most people.

[Anonymous]

I have plenty of stamina, am never embarrassed to eat whatever I like in public, and while it's harder to find great clothes than it was when I was thin, I still do. I also have more energy than when I was thin because I understand my body better and am never dieting.

I hear what you're saying about joint problems, PP, but I cut out grain and added nutritional support for my joints and they're flexible and awesome. Yes, I will trade the dim eventual possibility of joint problems for the excruciating pain and disability of frequent back injuries today. I still do what I can, just can't do really intense exercise, even swimming. I miss it and would go play racquetball now if I could.

You folks who keep talking saying teh healthy fats are kidding themselves are not acquainted with the research.

Here's the deal: thinness is protective if you have bad health habits. If you're already stressing your body with crap food and not moving, it helps to be thin.

However, if you have good health habits, there is no statistically significant difference in morbidity or mortality.

Did you guys hear what I just said? If you eat good food and move, the size of your body has no bearing on your health prospects. My 300-pound friend who bikes 80mpw is just as healthy as a fit, toned gym rat.

Read that again and again until you get it. Then stfu.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have plenty of stamina, am never embarrassed to eat whatever I like in public, and while it's harder to find great clothes than it was when I was thin, I still do. I also have more energy than when I was thin because I understand my body better and am never dieting.

I hear what you're saying about joint problems, PP, but I cut out grain and added nutritional support for my joints and they're flexible and awesome. Yes, I will trade the dim eventual possibility of joint problems for the excruciating pain and disability of frequent back injuries today. I still do what I can, just can't do really intense exercise, even swimming. I miss it and would go play racquetball now if I could.

You folks who keep talking saying teh healthy fats are kidding themselves are not acquainted with the research.

Here's the deal: thinness is protective if you have bad health habits. If you're already stressing your body with crap food and not moving, it helps to be thin.

However, if you have good health habits, there is no statistically significant difference in morbidity or mortality.

Did you guys hear what I just said? If you eat good food and move, the size of your body has no bearing on your health prospects. My 300-pound friend who bikes 80mpw is just as healthy as a fit, toned gym rat.

Read that again and again until you get it. Then stfu.

What the what now?? Are you f-ing kidding me? You are so delusional. Agree with PP above. Nothing is going to get you beyond that dumb-ass statement you just made, so you might want to stfu and not spread such ridiculous statements as if they're fact.

[Anonymous]

My 9 y.o. rail thin athletic dd showed me her unflexed calf muscle and called it "flab."

[Anonymous]

I have in my mind what I call "Panic weight" its the weight that know if I cross that I MUST get serious, no excuses, etc to deal with. Seriously, I figured this out while watching that Lifetime Show "Ruby"--she was something like 700lbs are her heaviest. That would take years or decades to achieve so at some point, she crossed a number on the scale and completely gave up. then the number got so high it was just daunting so why bother. I am pregnant now and 15 lbs over panic weight and its stressful. Im eating well and working with a trainer regularly not so much to keep the weight off now but so I can get back into my running/workout routine post baby with as much pain and suffering. Life is short and I want to enjoy it but I also don't think morbidly obese people enjoy life at all. Holy cow, just feeling my thighs now rubbing together in this heat is miserable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have plenty of stamina, am never embarrassed to eat whatever I like in public, and while it's harder to find great clothes than it was when I was thin, I still do. I also have more energy than when I was thin because I understand my body better and am never dieting.

I hear what you're saying about joint problems, PP, but I cut out grain and added nutritional support for my joints and they're flexible and awesome. Yes, I will trade the dim eventual possibility of joint problems for the excruciating pain and disability of frequent back injuries today. I still do what I can, just can't do really intense exercise, even swimming. I miss it and would go play racquetball now if I could.

You folks who keep talking saying teh healthy fats are kidding themselves are not acquainted with the research.

Here's the deal: thinness is protective if you have bad health habits. If you're already stressing your body with crap food and not moving, it helps to be thin.

However, if you have good health habits, there is no statistically significant difference in morbidity or mortality.

Did you guys hear what I just said? If you eat good food and move, the size of your body has no bearing on your health prospects. My 300-pound friend who bikes 80mpw is just as healthy as a fit, toned gym rat.

Read that again and again until you get it. Then stfu.

New poster here. This is very delusional, very dangerous thinking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread really needs to die. If someone is overweight and doesn't want to do anything about it they will find any nugget to justify staying overweight.

Of course there are people with good blood pressure, cholesterol, etc., who are overweight, just like there are people who smoked 2 packs of cigarettes a day and lived until 100, but it cannot be denied that carrying extra fat ups the risk for all sorts of medical problems, ranging from joint problems to heart problems. To deny that is sticking your head in the sand.

Of course it ups the risks, I do not deny that
But the extra weight does not make it a given that ou do or will have all these issues either. That was the point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To the PP with the pics:

You look very good wearing your bikini. After 3 children??? yes! I am 28 yo, no children and am recovering from a big weight loss (50 lbs) and believe me: at 150 and 5,7" you look way better than me! I am white and my skin looks awful and full of stretch marks. you go girl!

Congrats on your weight loss! I agree.
DCUM is full of women who are miserable and unhappy with themselves, and their bodies. I don't think any of these people are concerned about any fat persons health.
I think seeing a fat person who is happy, and confident scares the shit out of some people, and they don't know what to do with that.
Maybe if they focused more on their families, and themselves they wouldn't be miserable and in sexless marriages ( just read the relationship forums).

This...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think obese people are truly happy. Why would you be? You can't participate in activities that require any type of physical stamina, you tire easily from carrying so much weight, you are embarrased to eat in public, you can't find "cute" clothes that fit your body, and you are NOT healthy.

You must not know very many fat people. My clothes are always cute, and probably fit me better than yours do you. I have a 300 lb friend( and shrinking) who runs in marathons.
I am OBESE, and I am not embarassed to eat in public. For what? I could give two fucks what you think of me and my body.
Seriously. My body is MINE, and no one elses business. I work out a few times a week, and have a personal trainer. My thin friend (who is about 120) has no stamina at all.