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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:your rights should not be tied to marriage, what if you are not married to your partner? marriage, either gay or not, should not be what allows you to have rights, rights should be allowed because it is what is right.

PS I am agianst gay marriage.

So you think straight marriage shouldn't have any rights either? Everyone gets civil unions for legal rights and marriage for religious recognition?

Under the current system, I'm pro-gay marriage. But I think this is an acceptable compromise. Legal rights and responsibilities are conferred by entering into a bindign civil contract - call it a civil union, or whatever you want. Marriage is reserved for religious institutions, and confers no legal rights, or has any effect outside that religion. If a religion wants to recognize gay marriage, great. If not, well, I guess that's their perogative.

[Anonymous]

PP is referring to people who are "all for gay rights" but don't want gay relationships to be called "marriages."

In other words, people who think their relationship is more valid than a gay relationship.

[Anonymous]

For the "marraige is a sacrament" poster - marriage was not preformed in Churches until around the 11th century and was not recognized as a sacrament till the 1500's. So the fact that marriage in the sarcament, in the broader spectrum of the history of marraige means very little.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For the "marraige is a sacrament" poster - marriage was not preformed in Churches until around the 11th century and was not recognized as a sacrament till the 1500's. So the fact that marriage in the sarcament, in the broader spectrum of the history of marraige means very little.

And it was generally performed by the church because that was the only form of "government" they had. It has nothing at all to do with "religion" but everything to do with the "church as political entity."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP is referring to people who are "all for gay rights" but don't want gay relationships to be called "marriages."

In other words, people who think their relationship is more valid than a gay relationship.

Thanks for clarifying. Perhaps she should have directed that rant to someone who doesn't want gay marriage to be called gay marriage instead of at me.

[Anonymous]

NotSoAnonymous wrote:" Instead, they continually try to legitimize their lifestyle by pushing these marriage laws, and the unfortunate outcome is that they fail to gain certain privileges."

My life, my family, and my love is legitimate. I am not asking for privileges, I am asking for rights. Pursuit of happiness, liberty... It applies to all of us.

I disagree that your family and love is legitimate, as I believe homosexuality is fundamentally disordered and abnormal. I believe it represents a disfunction in human existence, probably caused by a variety of factors. Celebrating, endorsing and promoting homosexuality should be discouraged as it causes ever-deepening confusion and ultimately chaos in a society. Yes, I live and work alongside gay people, and would never say this directly to anyone's face as I realize it is hurtful. In fact, I don't know that I've ever written or spoken these words before, as it would be considered rude and impolite; however I figured it's not fair to be having this conversation without clearly and honestly stating my beliefs. Clearly I hold an extremely unpopular opinion compared to those on DCUM; however the majority of people living in this country agree with me. That said, I don't care what you do with your life or in your bedroom. That's between you and whoever you choose to be involved with in your life. And, certainly you should be free to pursue life, liberty and happiness, without any condemnation or persecution from our legal system. Aside from that, marriage has a very specific purpose and definition, and I am not willing to vote for that to be changed. I would be fine voting in favor of a domestic partnership law which allows two consenting adults to have certain exclusive powers with and for each other.

[Anonymous]

To those who believe that gays should be satisfied with civil unions, a civil union is a legal status granted by a state, not the federal government, so federal protections and rights do not apply. That being the case, the two institutions are unequal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

NotSoAnonymous wrote:" Instead, they continually try to legitimize their lifestyle by pushing these marriage laws, and the unfortunate outcome is that they fail to gain certain privileges."

My life, my family, and my love is legitimate. I am not asking for privileges, I am asking for rights. Pursuit of happiness, liberty... It applies to all of us.

I disagree that your family and love is legitimate, as I believe homosexuality is fundamentally disordered and abnormal. I believe it represents a disfunction in human existence, probably caused by a variety of factors. Celebrating, endorsing and promoting homosexuality should be discouraged as it causes ever-deepening confusion and ultimately chaos in a society. Yes, I live and work alongside gay people, and would never say this directly to anyone's face as I realize it is hurtful. In fact, I don't know that I've ever written or spoken these words before, as it would be considered rude and impolite; however I figured it's not fair to be having this conversation without clearly and honestly stating my beliefs. Clearly I hold an extremely unpopular opinion compared to those on DCUM; however the majority of people living in this country agree with me. That said, I don't care what you do with your life or in your bedroom. That's between you and whoever you choose to be involved with in your life. And, certainly you should be free to pursue life, liberty and happiness, without any condemnation or persecution from our legal system. Aside from that, marriage has a very specific purpose and definition, and I am not willing to vote for that to be changed. I would be fine voting in favor of a domestic partnership law which allows two consenting adults to have certain exclusive powers with and for each other.

No love you have for anyone could possibly be "legitimate" with this kind of hate inside you. Do the people you work alongside and live alongside a favor and "out" yourself. At least they'll know to steer clear of you, instead of being a coward who can't even own up to their own views.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I notice none of the religious folks are piping in about that chart that shows all of the ways in which bible teachings have been done away with based on our evolving as people and as a society. How do you cherry pick what you take from the bible and what you don't, what sacrament "sticks" and what doesn't? Convenience to you? I guess, because none of it makes sense otherwise. That's the biggest hypocrisy.

If you have to design a law that harms others in order to prove your morality, then you're lacking morals.

Which is why, in their inability to discuss it, the silence is deafening.

This is very common on the Internet. When you present people with facts, they just disappear from the thread.

Oh, seriously? You guys are the same people that fight to be able to kill unborn humans, just in the name of protecting a particular right of the mom. I consider that significant, devastating, painful, and permanent harm to one part of humanity in order to uphold your particular version of morality.

[Anonymous]

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I disagree that your family and love is legitimate, as I believe homosexuality is fundamentally disordered and abnormal. I believe it represents a disfunction in human existence, probably caused by a variety of factors. Celebrating, endorsing and promoting homosexuality should be discouraged as it causes ever-deepening confusion and ultimately chaos in a society. Yes, I live and work alongside gay people, and would never say this directly to anyone's face as I realize it is hurtful. In fact, I don't know that I've ever written or spoken these words before, as it would be considered rude and impolite; however I figured it's not fair to be having this conversation without clearly and honestly stating my beliefs. Clearly I hold an extremely unpopular opinion compared to those on DCUM; however the majority of people living in this country agree with me. That said, I don't care what you do with your life or in your bedroom. That's between you and whoever you choose to be involved with in your life. And, certainly you should be free to pursue life, liberty and happiness, without any condemnation or persecution from our legal system. Aside from that, marriage has a very specific purpose and definition, and I am not willing to vote for that to be changed. I would be fine voting in favor of a domestic partnership law which allows two consenting adults to have certain exclusive powers with and for each other.

Wow. Just wow. Have you ever really THOUGHT about why you feel such hatred toward homosexuals and homosexuality? And I don't actually believe that a majority of people in the country agree with you. They don't think of homosexuals as disfunctional.

I mean, really...you just suck as a person if you think these things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

NotSoAnonymous wrote:" Instead, they continually try to legitimize their lifestyle by pushing these marriage laws, and the unfortunate outcome is that they fail to gain certain privileges."

My life, my family, and my love is legitimate. I am not asking for privileges, I am asking for rights. Pursuit of happiness, liberty... It applies to all of us.

I disagree that your family and love is legitimate, as I believe homosexuality is fundamentally disordered and abnormal. I believe it represents a disfunction in human existence, probably caused by a variety of factors. Celebrating, endorsing and promoting homosexuality should be discouraged as it causes ever-deepening confusion and ultimately chaos in a society. Yes, I live and work alongside gay people, and would never say this directly to anyone's face as I realize it is hurtful. In fact, I don't know that I've ever written or spoken these words before, as it would be considered rude and impolite; however I figured it's not fair to be having this conversation without clearly and honestly stating my beliefs. Clearly I hold an extremely unpopular opinion compared to those on DCUM; however the majority of people living in this country agree with me. That said, I don't care what you do with your life or in your bedroom. That's between you and whoever you choose to be involved with in your life. And, certainly you should be free to pursue life, liberty and happiness, without any condemnation or persecution from our legal system. Aside from that, marriage has a very specific purpose and definition, and I am not willing to vote for that to be changed. I would be fine voting in favor of a domestic partnership law which allows two consenting adults to have certain exclusive powers with and for each other.

No love you have for anyone could possibly be "legitimate" with this kind of hate inside you. Do the people you work alongside and live alongside a favor and "out" yourself. At least they'll know to steer clear of you, instead of being a coward who can't even own up to their own views.

I'm having a hard time figuring out who hates who in this conversation.

[Anonymous]

How can people deny these people the right to be together? If this doesn't change your mind, you are as heartless as you are wrong.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/teeny858/it-could-happen-to-you-523s

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:your rights should not be tied to marriage, what if you are not married to your partner? marriage, either gay or not, should not be what allows you to have rights, rights should be allowed because it is what is right.

PS I am agianst gay marriage.

So you think straight marriage shouldn't have any rights either? Everyone gets civil unions for legal rights and marriage for religious recognition?

No my point is marriage is nto for everyone, how many peopel do you know that are not married but have been together for 20 years? Same sex or not, they shoudl have equal rights marriage should not be involved in the discussion, it is about a person having rights to have their partner on their health plan or see them when they are sick etc Why throw the marriage into it? It is about a basic right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

NotSoAnonymous wrote:" Instead, they continually try to legitimize their lifestyle by pushing these marriage laws, and the unfortunate outcome is that they fail to gain certain privileges."

My life, my family, and my love is legitimate. I am not asking for privileges, I am asking for rights. Pursuit of happiness, liberty... It applies to all of us.

I disagree that your family and love is legitimate, as I believe homosexuality is fundamentally disordered and abnormal. I believe it represents a disfunction in human existence, probably caused by a variety of factors. Celebrating, endorsing and promoting homosexuality should be discouraged as it causes ever-deepening confusion and ultimately chaos in a society. Yes, I live and work alongside gay people, and would never say this directly to anyone's face as I realize it is hurtful. In fact, I don't know that I've ever written or spoken these words before, as it would be considered rude and impolite; however I figured it's not fair to be having this conversation without clearly and honestly stating my beliefs. Clearly I hold an extremely unpopular opinion compared to those on DCUM; however the majority of people living in this country agree with me. That said, I don't care what you do with your life or in your bedroom. That's between you and whoever you choose to be involved with in your life. And, certainly you should be free to pursue life, liberty and happiness, without any condemnation or persecution from our legal system. Aside from that, marriage has a very specific purpose and definition, and I am not willing to vote for that to be changed. I would be fine voting in favor of a domestic partnership law which allows two consenting adults to have certain exclusive powers with and for each other.

No love you have for anyone could possibly be "legitimate" with this kind of hate inside you. Do the people you work alongside and live alongside a favor and "out" yourself. At least they'll know to steer clear of you, instead of being a coward who can't even own up to their own views.

I'm having a hard time figuring out who hates who in this conversation.

Poster at 15:21 hates poster at 15:15. Got it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I notice none of the religious folks are piping in about that chart that shows all of the ways in which bible teachings have been done away with based on our evolving as people and as a society. How do you cherry pick what you take from the bible and what you don't, what sacrament "sticks" and what doesn't? Convenience to you? I guess, because none of it makes sense otherwise. That's the biggest hypocrisy.

If you have to design a law that harms others in order to prove your morality, then you're lacking morals.

Which is why, in their inability to discuss it, the silence is deafening.

This is very common on the Internet. When you present people with facts, they just disappear from the thread.

Oh, seriously? You guys are the same people that fight to be able to kill unborn humans, just in the name of protecting a particular right of the mom. I consider that significant, devastating, painful, and permanent harm to one part of humanity in order to uphold your particular version of morality.

What are you even talking about here? We're talking about gay marriage. What the hell are YOU talking about?