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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with the PP who said that your confidence is misguided. I'm all for being proud of one's body, but you are morbidly obese. I haven't looked at the smoking thread, but I'd venture to say that smoking isn't as bad for one's body as being 150 lbs overweight. People get so caught up in this 'you go girl!' mentality that they're not being honest with you about the fact that you are severely limiting your career options, your lifespan, your fertility, and a million other things.

I say this as someone who's 5'7 175 lbs and actively trying to get down to a healthier weight.

Um, does it make it better if she weren't self-confident? I mean, what are you asking for? For her to sit at home and cry? She has a life to live and guess what folks--for severe obesity (and a woman at 300+ pounds is for sure), NOTHING WORKS EXCEPT SURGERY, and even surgery will not bring a super obese person down to normal weight. But hey, why should insurance companies pay for weight loss surgery, because obesity is a choice, right?

Are you seriously saying she's not at all to blame for her obesity?

[Anonymous]

Sure sounds like a penalty to me. So I am a healthy, chubby adult (have only been to the doctor for OB appointments and well check ups in the last 8 years) and my children are a healthy BMI, but I should pay more for health insurance than a smoker, someone with asthma, someone who gets sick all the time, a diabetic, a woman who is geting IVF treatments beacuse she waited too long to have children, etc. That doesn't make any sense to me. Which I guess is why it doesn't work like that!

Do you deny that obesity is a public health crisis?

[Anonymous]

As a formerly morbidly obese woman, let me provide some actual real answers from a former fat girl....

1. Every fat girl will tell you that she is starting a diet, trying to eat more healthy, starting a new way of life, doing better about eating healthy.

This is a constant fat girl refrain usually occurring right especially after a good day of binging.

Of course, what OP didn't mention is that she restarts this plan every single day with little to no progress. She might be able to go one, a few days even or if she is really good maybe for a few weeks but that's it.

2. Fat girls binge. How else do you think they maintain 300+ lb body weights? They can't maintain that kind of weight eating healthy.

3. Fat girls who say they are "foodies" are seriously delusional and use it that as an excuse so they can continue to overeat. A morbidly obese person does not need the hobby of eating. They need a hobby that does not involve food or eating. Everyone likes to eat good food.

4. Fat girls who say they don't like sweets and don't eat that many are wrong. What that really means is they may only eat 8 to 10 cookies at a sitting and eat two large things of French Fries. See to them relative to the fries, they really didn't eat that many cookies. They also don't get that normal weighted people do not view 8 to 10 cookies as a reasonable serving size to eat on an everyday basis.

5. Truly morbidly obese fat girls are pretty much wasting their time going to the gym. They are better off devoting their energy to eating right and avoiding binging. They will lose weight without exercise for quite a while. This is not true for those who are closer to normal weights.

6. Fat girls go have stink as noted above. Yes, they have chub rub and lots of sweat and there is an odor. They may not notice it themselves though. I admit it was only random that I figured it out.

7. Fat girls are not necessarily more lazy but they are more tired. It really does take quite a bit of effort to heft around 300 + lbs of body weight so even normal activities can leave a fat girl tired and winded.

8. Fat girls lower their standards in terms of dating. I did it for a long time and all other fat girls I know do it too. Same for husbands.

9. I agree with a PP, surgery is the best option for the morbidly obese. That's how I lost the weight and in the 8 years since surgery I have never once regretted it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, OP. I think you're fooling yourself. If you're obese, after a certain amount of time, you have body odor issues (especially the vaginal area....)

Do you walk up to overweight people and smell their vagina? How else do you know about their odor?

18:37, I think we need a new topic for best post of the day. I nominate you.

Thank you. That made me smile.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a formerly morbidly obese woman, let me provide some actual real answers from a former fat girl....

1. Every fat girl will tell you that she is starting a diet, trying to eat more healthy, starting a new way of life, doing better about eating healthy.

This is a constant fat girl refrain usually occurring right especially after a good day of binging.

Of course, what OP didn't mention is that she restarts this plan every single day with little to no progress. She might be able to go one, a few days even or if she is really good maybe for a few weeks but that's it.

2. Fat girls binge. How else do you think they maintain 300+ lb body weights? They can't maintain that kind of weight eating healthy.

3. Fat girls who say they are "foodies" are seriously delusional and use it that as an excuse so they can continue to overeat. A morbidly obese person does not need the hobby of eating. They need a hobby that does not involve food or eating. Everyone likes to eat good food.

4. Fat girls who say they don't like sweets and don't eat that many are wrong. What that really means is they may only eat 8 to 10 cookies at a sitting and eat two large things of French Fries. See to them relative to the fries, they really didn't eat that many cookies. They also don't get that normal weighted people do not view 8 to 10 cookies as a reasonable serving size to eat on an everyday basis.

5. Truly morbidly obese fat girls are pretty much wasting their time going to the gym. They are better off devoting their energy to eating right and avoiding binging. They will lose weight without exercise for quite a while. This is not true for those who are closer to normal weights.

6. Fat girls go have stink as noted above. Yes, they have chub rub and lots of sweat and there is an odor. They may not notice it themselves though. I admit it was only random that I figured it out.

7. Fat girls are not necessarily more lazy but they are more tired. It really does take quite a bit of effort to heft around 300 + lbs of body weight so even normal activities can leave a fat girl tired and winded.

8. Fat girls lower their standards in terms of dating. I did it for a long time and all other fat girls I know do it too. Same for husbands.

9. I agree with a PP, surgery is the best option for the morbidly obese. That's how I lost the weight and in the 8 years since surgery I have never once regretted it.

I'm sure you have all sorts of friends with that oh-so-sweet attitude.
Shame on you for making such blanket statements about "fat girls"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a formerly morbidly obese woman, let me provide some actual real answers from a former fat girl....

1. Every fat girl will tell you that she is starting a diet, trying to eat more healthy, starting a new way of life, doing better about eating healthy.

This is a constant fat girl refrain usually occurring right especially after a good day of binging.

Of course, what OP didn't mention is that she restarts this plan every single day with little to no progress. She might be able to go one, a few days even or if she is really good maybe for a few weeks but that's it.

2. Fat girls binge. How else do you think they maintain 300+ lb body weights? They can't maintain that kind of weight eating healthy.

3. Fat girls who say they are "foodies" are seriously delusional and use it that as an excuse so they can continue to overeat. A morbidly obese person does not need the hobby of eating. They need a hobby that does not involve food or eating. Everyone likes to eat good food.

4. Fat girls who say they don't like sweets and don't eat that many are wrong. What that really means is they may only eat 8 to 10 cookies at a sitting and eat two large things of French Fries. See to them relative to the fries, they really didn't eat that many cookies. They also don't get that normal weighted people do not view 8 to 10 cookies as a reasonable serving size to eat on an everyday basis.

5. Truly morbidly obese fat girls are pretty much wasting their time going to the gym. They are better off devoting their energy to eating right and avoiding binging. They will lose weight without exercise for quite a while. This is not true for those who are closer to normal weights.

6. Fat girls go have stink as noted above. Yes, they have chub rub and lots of sweat and there is an odor. They may not notice it themselves though. I admit it was only random that I figured it out.

7. Fat girls are not necessarily more lazy but they are more tired. It really does take quite a bit of effort to heft around 300 + lbs of body weight so even normal activities can leave a fat girl tired and winded.

8. Fat girls lower their standards in terms of dating. I did it for a long time and all other fat girls I know do it too. Same for husbands.

9. I agree with a PP, surgery is the best option for the morbidly obese. That's how I lost the weight and in the 8 years since surgery I have never once regretted it.

Did you read through this thread? Do you know my personally?
Didn't think so. Maybe this is the person you were, but this is not me. I laughed at your foodie remark. I enjoy fresh things, and a lot of what I cook comes from a farmers market. You can eat a lot of healthy things, and be fat. Like I said I have problems with carbs, I eat too many of them. I think you had severe self esteem problems. Earlier in the thread I talked about bingeing for a long time in my past, no longer the case. Maybe you smelled, but I don't. I mentioned wanting more energy. I don't lower my standards in dating. If it came to that I would rather be alone. Do you seriously believe there aren't good men who are attracted to bigger women? Don't be so naive. I was recently at a bar with my bf, I was running late, and he waited for me. When I arrived I saw several women looking at him, and trying to make small talk. Surgery is not an option for me. I put this weight on by myself, and I'm going to lose it that way. Someone very close to me had the surgery, and then a stroke. My own mother lost 150 lbs the old fashion way. Just because you couldn't do it, doesn't mean I can't.

You may have lost weight with the surgery, but what are you going to do to fix your personality?

[Anonymous]

Oh, and not all fat girls do like sweets. I'm more of a savory girl.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, have you ever considered gastric bypass surgery? I have a colleague at work who had this surgery, and she lost an amazing amount of weight as a result.

I considered it, but don't want to. I want to try to lose the weight myself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you exercise regularly? What do you do?

No. I am one of those people who starts and then stops. I feel very self conscious when I go to the gym.
I do walk a mile or two 5 days a week.

If you're serious about losing weight, you need to work out regularly. You can do DVDs at home.

I live in an apartment, I'm on the top floor. I could probably find low impact dvds but I always worry about disturbing my neighbors underneath me.

This is just an excuse. Walking a mile or two a day should just be part of life, not to be counted as part of an exercise program.

I don't count it as an exercise program. It's something I do. I work really long days, and I'm in school full time. I make the time to do this.
When the weather is nice I swim for hours on the weekend when I have the time. This helped me get some of the weight off before.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with the PP who said that your confidence is misguided. I'm all for being proud of one's body, but you are morbidly obese. I haven't looked at the smoking thread, but I'd venture to say that smoking isn't as bad for one's body as being 150 lbs overweight. People get so caught up in this 'you go girl!' mentality that they're not being honest with you about the fact that you are severely limiting your career options, your lifespan, your fertility, and a million other things.

I say this as someone who's 5'7 175 lbs and actively trying to get down to a healthier weight.

Um, does it make it better if she weren't self-confident? I mean, what are you asking for? For her to sit at home and cry? She has a life to live and guess what folks--for severe obesity (and a woman at 300+ pounds is for sure), NOTHING WORKS EXCEPT SURGERY, and even surgery will not bring a super obese person down to normal weight. But hey, why should insurance companies pay for weight loss surgery, because obesity is a choice, right?

Are you seriously saying she's not at all to blame for her obesity?

Did you miss the parts of this thread when I said Igot myself this way?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with the PP who said that your confidence is misguided. I'm all for being proud of one's body, but you are morbidly obese. I haven't looked at the smoking thread, but I'd venture to say that smoking isn't as bad for one's body as being 150 lbs overweight. People get so caught up in this 'you go girl!' mentality that they're not being honest with you about the fact that you are severely limiting your career options, your lifespan, your fertility, and a million other things.

I say this as someone who's 5'7 175 lbs and actively trying to get down to a healthier weight.

Um, does it make it better if she weren't self-confident? I mean, what are you asking for? For her to sit at home and cry? She has a life to live and guess what folks--for severe obesity (and a woman at 300+ pounds is for sure), NOTHING WORKS EXCEPT SURGERY, and even surgery will not bring a super obese person down to normal weight. But hey, why should insurance companies pay for weight loss surgery, because obesity is a choice, right?

Are you seriously saying she's not at all to blame for her obesity?

Did you miss the parts of this thread when I said Igot myself this way?

Sorry OP (assuming you're OP), I wasn't responding to you. I was responding to the person who seemed to be acting like obese people (ok, MOST obese people), especially those who are morbidly obese, aren't responsible for their size. Of course some people are predisposed to be heavy. But being 300+ pounds IS a choice, to some degree. Very few, if any, people are that heavy as a result of issues with metabolism, thyroid, etc. OP, this isn't directed at you - I do agree that you are acknowledging your role in it.

That said - what weight would you like to be? How tall are you? (sorry if you said that earlier, I missed it)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a formerly morbidly obese woman, let me provide some actual real answers from a former fat girl....

1. Every fat girl will tell you that she is starting a diet, trying to eat more healthy, starting a new way of life, doing better about eating healthy.

This is a constant fat girl refrain usually occurring right especially after a good day of binging.

Of course, what OP didn't mention is that she restarts this plan every single day with little to no progress. She might be able to go one, a few days even or if she is really good maybe for a few weeks but that's it.

2. Fat girls binge. How else do you think they maintain 300+ lb body weights? They can't maintain that kind of weight eating healthy.

3. Fat girls who say they are "foodies" are seriously delusional and use it that as an excuse so they can continue to overeat. A morbidly obese person does not need the hobby of eating. They need a hobby that does not involve food or eating. Everyone likes to eat good food.

4. Fat girls who say they don't like sweets and don't eat that many are wrong. What that really means is they may only eat 8 to 10 cookies at a sitting and eat two large things of French Fries. See to them relative to the fries, they really didn't eat that many cookies. They also don't get that normal weighted people do not view 8 to 10 cookies as a reasonable serving size to eat on an everyday basis.

5. Truly morbidly obese fat girls are pretty much wasting their time going to the gym. They are better off devoting their energy to eating right and avoiding binging. They will lose weight without exercise for quite a while. This is not true for those who are closer to normal weights.

6. Fat girls go have stink as noted above. Yes, they have chub rub and lots of sweat and there is an odor. They may not notice it themselves though. I admit it was only random that I figured it out.

7. Fat girls are not necessarily more lazy but they are more tired. It really does take quite a bit of effort to heft around 300 + lbs of body weight so even normal activities can leave a fat girl tired and winded.

8. Fat girls lower their standards in terms of dating. I did it for a long time and all other fat girls I know do it too. Same for husbands.

9. I agree with a PP, surgery is the best option for the morbidly obese. That's how I lost the weight and in the 8 years since surgery I have never once regretted it.

Did you read through this thread? Do you know my personally?
Didn't think so. Maybe this is the person you were, but this is not me. I laughed at your foodie remark. I enjoy fresh things, and a lot of what I cook comes from a farmers market. You can eat a lot of healthy things, and be fat. Like I said I have problems with carbs, I eat too many of them. I think you had severe self esteem problems. Earlier in the thread I talked about bingeing for a long time in my past, no longer the case. Maybe you smelled, but I don't. I mentioned wanting more energy. I don't lower my standards in dating. If it came to that I would rather be alone. Do you seriously believe there aren't good men who are attracted to bigger women? Don't be so naive. I was recently at a bar with my bf, I was running late, and he waited for me. When I arrived I saw several women looking at him, and trying to make small talk. Surgery is not an option for me. I put this weight on by myself, and I'm going to lose it that way. Someone very close to me had the surgery, and then a stroke. My own mother lost 150 lbs the old fashion way. Just because you couldn't do it, doesn't mean I can't.

You may have lost weight with the surgery, but what are you going to do to fix your personality?

LOL!!! No, no you can't. Let's try some simple math to see how it works. A head of lettuce has 26 calories. So if you ate 10 heads of lettuce that would be 260 calories. Go ahead and try it with other veggies, fruits, etc and see how the Math works. You can't eat healthy foods only for a sustained period of time and remain fat.

I believe you when you say you have a problem with carbs. Your best bet is to eliminate them for a while and then only go back to a reduced amount. To do this, it means admitting to yourself that you can no longer use food for food, entertainment, enjoyment, self fulfillment, etc because most low carb not totally over fatted non carb food is that interesting or good. It's very hard to do but besides surgery it is the one way a very overweight person would lose the weight.

On surgery you said "I considered it, but don't want to. I want to try to lose the weight myself. " - yeah, I told myself that lie for years and you can talk to any surgery patient and they will tell you they said the same. The truth is surgery will eliminate food and over eating as a lifestyle. You will have to give up the fried food, the sugary food, the bad food, and you can't replace it with other food. And its not a gradual change ,it's an instant change. You have surgery in the morning and by the afternoon the food crutch is gone! Poof! There is no turning back. You have to wait years to go back to the overweight lifestyle. And yes, being overweight is a lifestyle choice. It's also is life defining for many people. The "fat girl" is their persona and its hard to imagine losing that.

As far as men, yeah, very few good, normal men are attracted to morbidly obese women. Very, very few. Morbid obesity is not an attractive physical trait and there are plenty of normal weight attractive or even slightly less than attractive women that normal, decent men can date/marry/etc so why are they not going to do that?

OP- I know fat girls like you. You are at a place where you are comfortable with your fat. I was never one of those and never could be. I never saw fat as sexy, or cute, or attractive and still don't. I was embarrassed to be so fat so I have a hard time understanding women like you who are ok with being so heavy or how you can describe it as sexy.

I also would have never denied that being morbidly obese was not attractive or enjoyable or that I had a problem with over eating. It just seemed crazy to me to deny either because they were both so obvious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with the PP who said that your confidence is misguided. I'm all for being proud of one's body, but you are morbidly obese. I haven't looked at the smoking thread, but I'd venture to say that smoking isn't as bad for one's body as being 150 lbs overweight. People get so caught up in this 'you go girl!' mentality that they're not being honest with you about the fact that you are severely limiting your career options, your lifespan, your fertility, and a million other things.

I say this as someone who's 5'7 175 lbs and actively trying to get down to a healthier weight.

Um, does it make it better if she weren't self-confident? I mean, what are you asking for? For her to sit at home and cry? She has a life to live and guess what folks--for severe obesity (and a woman at 300+ pounds is for sure), NOTHING WORKS EXCEPT SURGERY, and even surgery will not bring a super obese person down to normal weight. But hey, why should insurance companies pay for weight loss surgery, because obesity is a choice, right?

Are you seriously saying she's not at all to blame for her obesity?

Did you miss the parts of this thread when I said Igot myself this way?

Sorry OP (assuming you're OP), I wasn't responding to you. I was responding to the person who seemed to be acting like obese people (ok, MOST obese people), especially those who are morbidly obese, aren't responsible for their size. Of course some people are predisposed to be heavy. But being 300+ pounds IS a choice, to some degree. Very few, if any, people are that heavy as a result of issues with metabolism, thyroid, etc. OP, this isn't directed at you - I do agree that you are acknowledging your role in it.

That said - what weight would you like to be? How tall are you? (sorry if you said that earlier, I missed it)

No problem, thanks for clarifying! My doctor told me that he believes I'm predisposed to being heavier. My goal for now is 200 lbs. I'm 5'11, most of my weight is carried in my hips, chest, butt. For someone my size I should probably have a huge belly but I don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a formerly morbidly obese woman, let me provide some actual real answers from a former fat girl....

1. Every fat girl will tell you that she is starting a diet, trying to eat more healthy, starting a new way of life, doing better about eating healthy.

This is a constant fat girl refrain usually occurring right especially after a good day of binging.

Of course, what OP didn't mention is that she restarts this plan every single day with little to no progress. She might be able to go one, a few days even or if she is really good maybe for a few weeks but that's it.

2. Fat girls binge. How else do you think they maintain 300+ lb body weights? They can't maintain that kind of weight eating healthy.

3. Fat girls who say they are "foodies" are seriously delusional and use it that as an excuse so they can continue to overeat. A morbidly obese person does not need the hobby of eating. They need a hobby that does not involve food or eating. Everyone likes to eat good food.

4. Fat girls who say they don't like sweets and don't eat that many are wrong. What that really means is they may only eat 8 to 10 cookies at a sitting and eat two large things of French Fries. See to them relative to the fries, they really didn't eat that many cookies. They also don't get that normal weighted people do not view 8 to 10 cookies as a reasonable serving size to eat on an everyday basis.

5. Truly morbidly obese fat girls are pretty much wasting their time going to the gym. They are better off devoting their energy to eating right and avoiding binging. They will lose weight without exercise for quite a while. This is not true for those who are closer to normal weights.

6. Fat girls go have stink as noted above. Yes, they have chub rub and lots of sweat and there is an odor. They may not notice it themselves though. I admit it was only random that I figured it out.

7. Fat girls are not necessarily more lazy but they are more tired. It really does take quite a bit of effort to heft around 300 + lbs of body weight so even normal activities can leave a fat girl tired and winded.

8. Fat girls lower their standards in terms of dating. I did it for a long time and all other fat girls I know do it too. Same for husbands.

9. I agree with a PP, surgery is the best option for the morbidly obese. That's how I lost the weight and in the 8 years since surgery I have never once regretted it.

Did you read through this thread? Do you know my personally?
Didn't think so. Maybe this is the person you were, but this is not me. I laughed at your foodie remark. I enjoy fresh things, and a lot of what I cook comes from a farmers market. You can eat a lot of healthy things, and be fat. Like I said I have problems with carbs, I eat too many of them. I think you had severe self esteem problems. Earlier in the thread I talked about bingeing for a long time in my past, no longer the case. Maybe you smelled, but I don't. I mentioned wanting more energy. I don't lower my standards in dating. If it came to that I would rather be alone. Do you seriously believe there aren't good men who are attracted to bigger women? Don't be so naive. I was recently at a bar with my bf, I was running late, and he waited for me. When I arrived I saw several women looking at him, and trying to make small talk. Surgery is not an option for me. I put this weight on by myself, and I'm going to lose it that way. Someone very close to me had the surgery, and then a stroke. My own mother lost 150 lbs the old fashion way. Just because you couldn't do it, doesn't mean I can't.

You may have lost weight with the surgery, but what are you going to do to fix your personality?

LOL!!! No, no you can't. Let's try some simple math to see how it works. A head of lettuce has 26 calories. So if you ate 10 heads of lettuce that would be 260 calories. Go ahead and try it with other veggies, fruits, etc and see how the Math works. You can't eat healthy foods only for a sustained period of time and remain fat.

I believe you when you say you have a problem with carbs. Your best bet is to eliminate them for a while and then only go back to a reduced amount. To do this, it means admitting to yourself that you can no longer use food for food, entertainment, enjoyment, self fulfillment, etc because most low carb not totally over fatted non carb food is that interesting or good. It's very hard to do but besides surgery it is the one way a very overweight person would lose the weight.

On surgery you said "I considered it, but don't want to. I want to try to lose the weight myself. " - yeah, I told myself that lie for years and you can talk to any surgery patient and they will tell you they said the same. The truth is surgery will eliminate food and over eating as a lifestyle. You will have to give up the fried food, the sugary food, the bad food, and you can't replace it with other food. And its not a gradual change ,it's an instant change. You have surgery in the morning and by the afternoon the food crutch is gone! Poof! There is no turning back. You have to wait years to go back to the overweight lifestyle. And yes, being overweight is a lifestyle choice. It's also is life defining for many people. The "fat girl" is their persona and its hard to imagine losing that.

As far as men, yeah, very few good, normal men are attracted to morbidly obese women. Very, very few. Morbid obesity is not an attractive physical trait and there are plenty of normal weight attractive or even slightly less than attractive women that normal, decent men can date/marry/etc so why are they not going to do that?

OP- I know fat girls like you. You are at a place where you are comfortable with your fat. I was never one of those and never could be. I never saw fat as sexy, or cute, or attractive and still don't. I was embarrassed to be so fat so I have a hard time understanding women like you who are ok with being so heavy or how you can describe it as sexy.

I also would have never denied that being morbidly obese was not attractive or enjoyable or that I had a problem with over eating. It just seemed crazy to me to deny either because they were both so obvious.

PP, it sounds like you have a lot of self-hatred that you are projecting onto the OP and other overweight people. If you have lost the weight, it's time for some therapy to help you embrace the new you. Seriously, I know everyone says that on DCUM, but you should talk to someone to try and enjoy yourself instead of harping at other people and imagining that your experience defines that of all overweight people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a formerly morbidly obese woman, let me provide some actual real answers from a former fat girl....

1. Every fat girl will tell you that she is starting a diet, trying to eat more healthy, starting a new way of life, doing better about eating healthy.

This is a constant fat girl refrain usually occurring right especially after a good day of binging.

Of course, what OP didn't mention is that she restarts this plan every single day with little to no progress. She might be able to go one, a few days even or if she is really good maybe for a few weeks but that's it.

2. Fat girls binge. How else do you think they maintain 300+ lb body weights? They can't maintain that kind of weight eating healthy.

3. Fat girls who say they are "foodies" are seriously delusional and use it that as an excuse so they can continue to overeat. A morbidly obese person does not need the hobby of eating. They need a hobby that does not involve food or eating. Everyone likes to eat good food.

4. Fat girls who say they don't like sweets and don't eat that many are wrong. What that really means is they may only eat 8 to 10 cookies at a sitting and eat two large things of French Fries. See to them relative to the fries, they really didn't eat that many cookies. They also don't get that normal weighted people do not view 8 to 10 cookies as a reasonable serving size to eat on an everyday basis.

5. Truly morbidly obese fat girls are pretty much wasting their time going to the gym. They are better off devoting their energy to eating right and avoiding binging. They will lose weight without exercise for quite a while. This is not true for those who are closer to normal weights.

6. Fat girls go have stink as noted above. Yes, they have chub rub and lots of sweat and there is an odor. They may not notice it themselves though. I admit it was only random that I figured it out.

7. Fat girls are not necessarily more lazy but they are more tired. It really does take quite a bit of effort to heft around 300 + lbs of body weight so even normal activities can leave a fat girl tired and winded.

8. Fat girls lower their standards in terms of dating. I did it for a long time and all other fat girls I know do it too. Same for husbands.

9. I agree with a PP, surgery is the best option for the morbidly obese. That's how I lost the weight and in the 8 years since surgery I have never once regretted it.

Did you read through this thread? Do you know my personally?
Didn't think so. Maybe this is the person you were, but this is not me. I laughed at your foodie remark. I enjoy fresh things, and a lot of what I cook comes from a farmers market. You can eat a lot of healthy things, and be fat. Like I said I have problems with carbs, I eat too many of them. I think you had severe self esteem problems. Earlier in the thread I talked about bingeing for a long time in my past, no longer the case. Maybe you smelled, but I don't. I mentioned wanting more energy. I don't lower my standards in dating. If it came to that I would rather be alone. Do you seriously believe there aren't good men who are attracted to bigger women? Don't be so naive. I was recently at a bar with my bf, I was running late, and he waited for me. When I arrived I saw several women looking at him, and trying to make small talk. Surgery is not an option for me. I put this weight on by myself, and I'm going to lose it that way. Someone very close to me had the surgery, and then a stroke. My own mother lost 150 lbs the old fashion way. Just because you couldn't do it, doesn't mean I can't.

You may have lost weight with the surgery, but what are you going to do to fix your personality?

LOL!!! No, no you can't. Let's try some simple math to see how it works. A head of lettuce has 26 calories. So if you ate 10 heads of lettuce that would be 260 calories. Go ahead and try it with other veggies, fruits, etc and see how the Math works. You can't eat healthy foods only for a sustained period of time and remain fat.

I believe you when you say you have a problem with carbs. Your best bet is to eliminate them for a while and then only go back to a reduced amount. To do this, it means admitting to yourself that you can no longer use food for food, entertainment, enjoyment, self fulfillment, etc because most low carb not totally over fatted non carb food is that interesting or good. It's very hard to do but besides surgery it is the one way a very overweight person would lose the weight.

On surgery you said "I considered it, but don't want to. I want to try to lose the weight myself. " - yeah, I told myself that lie for years and you can talk to any surgery patient and they will tell you they said the same. The truth is surgery will eliminate food and over eating as a lifestyle. You will have to give up the fried food, the sugary food, the bad food, and you can't replace it with other food. And its not a gradual change ,it's an instant change. You have surgery in the morning and by the afternoon the food crutch is gone! Poof! There is no turning back. You have to wait years to go back to the overweight lifestyle. And yes, being overweight is a lifestyle choice. It's also is life defining for many people. The "fat girl" is their persona and its hard to imagine losing that.

As far as men, yeah, very few good, normal men are attracted to morbidly obese women. Very, very few. Morbid obesity is not an attractive physical trait and there are plenty of normal weight attractive or even slightly less than attractive women that normal, decent men can date/marry/etc so why are they not going to do that?

OP- I know fat girls like you. You are at a place where you are comfortable with your fat. I was never one of those and never could be. I never saw fat as sexy, or cute, or attractive and still don't. I was embarrassed to be so fat so I have a hard time understanding women like you who are ok with being so heavy or how you can describe it as sexy.

I also would have never denied that being morbidly obese was not attractive or enjoyable or that I had a problem with over eating. It just seemed crazy to me to deny either because they were both so obvious.

We will have to agree to disagree.It doesn't matter if you believe me or not. Maybe you just came across shitty men, I don't know. I don't know you, or where you were looking. Plenty of people have weight loss surgery, and gain it back why? Because they didn't change their habits. WLS is not a magic pill. I am currently seeing a dietician, and therapist ( for many reasons) please don't pretend that because you knew people " like me" you know what it's like to be me. I feel sorry for you honestly. I feel sorry that you could love yourself from the inside until you lost the weight. That makes me sad. My normal, decent, boyfriend is attracted to all types of women, INCLUDING me. Even the plus sized pin-up, porn industry is a multi million dollar industry that money is coming from somewhere. My friend Dan wrote for the Village voice " ask a guy who likes fat chicks". He is sane, normal, and an overall awesome person. He is just attracted to fat women. There are plenty of "normal" guys just like him. Like I said before I want to lose weight soley for health reasons. I don't think I'm at a healthy weight. That said I'm not going to hate my body because it's not perfect. Yes I am sexy, yes I am beautiful, I'm fun to be around, I'm caring, and deserving of love. I am a person, There are more things to me than my weight! I am someones sister, someones daughter, and a friend to many. I did state earlier in the thread that I used to binge eat all the time. I don't know why I'm reiterating this. Since I've been seeing my dietician, I don't feel the need to do that anymore.