Sign Petition Asking for Boundaries Now, Programs Later

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Anonymous wrote:This is such a bullshit letter. We see right through this hey keep all the rich white school is the same and don’t rush anything else. GTFO

Huh? How'd you get that from the petition? It's not about favoring rich white schools at all. Did you read it?

NP- As an upcounty resident who read the petition and the comments about 50 MCCPTA delegates, I won’t be signing this petition despite agreeing with some of its points. Why? Because it seems to overwhelming focus on certain areas and not take into account the needs of many others parts of the county. This is evident by calling out Silver Spring and the DCC without even a bit of acknowledgement that others in the boundary studies experience split articulations. Further, 50 MCCPTA delegates when there is more than 200 schools, mean there vote represents less than 1/4 of the districts schools.

Folks are constantly talking about MCPS needing to reach out and communicate more and better. Seems the same can be said for this effort against MCPS.

You seem really triggered by other people advocating for their communities. We're not going to stop just because you want us to stfu.

DP. But pot…kettle…African American.

Huh? I have no problem with up county advocating for itself. PP doesn't seem to want to do that, just attack DCC parents.

Funny how so many people are so angry the DCC doesn't want to lose its programs but nobody has a problem with all the special classes at wealthy schools that most other schools don't have.

What makes you believe that people don’t have problems with the wealthy schools have classes that others can’t access? Once again ya’ll seem to be making statements that are false in nature without doing any research to understand the other parts of the district? Oh and no one said you had to stop advocating for your community. What they said was they wouldn’t be joining you since you’ve made it crystal clear in you and the DCC against everyone else.

Huh? What makes it seem like it's the DCC versus everyone else? It's a petition from DCC folks calling for a better regional program process and fairer boundaries. That helps everyone, right? (Except for rich people/schools who are overly favored now, but even there, it's still probably only going to affect a small number of people negatively.). Super confused why upcounty people are taking a down-county petition as some kind of attack on them.

They assume everyone wants to go to their schools, but cannot afford it and we should be grateful to have our kids bussed to their schools.

I am not a DCC advocate but just to understand, why is “they”? It feels like there is a portion of schools who are not being heard. I’m interested in what the rest of the county outside of region 1 is thinking.

Then go ask them? Why do you expect other parents to go around and survey other parts of the county and then report back on DCUM?

I am asking them. Why would you assume they wouldn’t also be able to speak on DCUM? They are obviously chiming in on this thread.

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There is plenty to hate in this 6-region model if you are outside the DCC.

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Anonymous wrote:They should leave the DCC and NEC alone and make consortia in the rest of the county.

That presumes that the consortia model has been successful, which is not true.

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Anonymous wrote:This is such a bullshit letter. We see right through this hey keep all the rich white school is the same and don’t rush anything else. GTFO

Huh? How'd you get that from the petition? It's not about favoring rich white schools at all. Did you read it?

NP- As an upcounty resident who read the petition and the comments about 50 MCCPTA delegates, I won’t be signing this petition despite agreeing with some of its points. Why? Because it seems to overwhelming focus on certain areas and not take into account the needs of many others parts of the county. This is evident by calling out Silver Spring and the DCC without even a bit of acknowledgement that others in the boundary studies experience split articulations. Further, 50 MCCPTA delegates when there is more than 200 schools, mean there vote represents less than 1/4 of the districts schools.

Folks are constantly talking about MCPS needing to reach out and communicate more and better. Seems the same can be said for this effort against MCPS.

You seem really triggered by other people advocating for their communities. We're not going to stop just because you want us to stfu.

DP. But pot…kettle…African American.

Huh? I have no problem with up county advocating for itself. PP doesn't seem to want to do that, just attack DCC parents.

Funny how so many people are so angry the DCC doesn't want to lose its programs but nobody has a problem with all the special classes at wealthy schools that most other schools don't have.

What makes you believe that people don’t have problems with the wealthy schools have classes that others can’t access? Once again ya’ll seem to be making statements that are false in nature without doing any research to understand the other parts of the district? Oh and no one said you had to stop advocating for your community. What they said was they wouldn’t be joining you since you’ve made it crystal clear in you and the DCC against everyone else.

Huh? What makes it seem like it's the DCC versus everyone else? It's a petition from DCC folks calling for a better regional program process and fairer boundaries. That helps everyone, right? (Except for rich people/schools who are overly favored now, but even there, it's still probably only going to affect a small number of people negatively.). Super confused why upcounty people are taking a down-county petition as some kind of attack on them.

They assume everyone wants to go to their schools, but cannot afford it and we should be grateful to have our kids bussed to their schools.

I am not a DCC advocate but just to understand, why is “they”? It feels like there is a portion of schools who are not being heard. I’m interested in what the rest of the county outside of region 1 is thinking.

Then go ask them? Why do you expect other parents to go around and survey other parts of the county and then report back on DCUM?

I am asking them. Why would you assume they wouldn’t also be able to speak on DCUM? They are obviously chiming in on this thread.

Your response is nonsensical given the post I was responding to.

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Anonymous wrote:This is such a bullshit letter. We see right through this hey keep all the rich white school is the same and don’t rush anything else. GTFO

Huh? How'd you get that from the petition? It's not about favoring rich white schools at all. Did you read it?

NP- As an upcounty resident who read the petition and the comments about 50 MCCPTA delegates, I won’t be signing this petition despite agreeing with some of its points. Why? Because it seems to overwhelming focus on certain areas and not take into account the needs of many others parts of the county. This is evident by calling out Silver Spring and the DCC without even a bit of acknowledgement that others in the boundary studies experience split articulations. Further, 50 MCCPTA delegates when there is more than 200 schools, mean there vote represents less than 1/4 of the districts schools.

Folks are constantly talking about MCPS needing to reach out and communicate more and better. Seems the same can be said for this effort against MCPS.

You seem really triggered by other people advocating for their communities. We're not going to stop just because you want us to stfu.

DP. But pot…kettle…African American.

Huh? I have no problem with up county advocating for itself. PP doesn't seem to want to do that, just attack DCC parents.

Funny how so many people are so angry the DCC doesn't want to lose its programs but nobody has a problem with all the special classes at wealthy schools that most other schools don't have.

What makes you believe that people don’t have problems with the wealthy schools have classes that others can’t access? Once again ya’ll seem to be making statements that are false in nature without doing any research to understand the other parts of the district? Oh and no one said you had to stop advocating for your community. What they said was they wouldn’t be joining you since you’ve made it crystal clear in you and the DCC against everyone else.

That's not what's in the letter. That is a narrative you have created in your head. Sorry you won't be joining us but it sounds like you are not aligned with us and frankly just have animus towards the DCC. Maybe you work for CO since they clearly do too.

Is it a created narrative when the letter specifically calls out Silver Spring, the DCC, or SSIMS without mentioning any place else? If you wanted it to be neutral either don’t call out any school/area and make generalized comments OR include a more wide ranging look at the issues created across the district while acknowledging the vast problems and complaints this seeks to solve.

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Anonymous wrote:This is such a bullshit letter. We see right through this hey keep all the rich white school is the same and don’t rush anything else. GTFO

Huh? How'd you get that from the petition? It's not about favoring rich white schools at all. Did you read it?

NP- As an upcounty resident who read the petition and the comments about 50 MCCPTA delegates, I won’t be signing this petition despite agreeing with some of its points. Why? Because it seems to overwhelming focus on certain areas and not take into account the needs of many others parts of the county. This is evident by calling out Silver Spring and the DCC without even a bit of acknowledgement that others in the boundary studies experience split articulations. Further, 50 MCCPTA delegates when there is more than 200 schools, mean there vote represents less than 1/4 of the districts schools.

Folks are constantly talking about MCPS needing to reach out and communicate more and better. Seems the same can be said for this effort against MCPS.

You seem really triggered by other people advocating for their communities. We're not going to stop just because you want us to stfu.

DP. But pot…kettle…African American.

Huh? I have no problem with up county advocating for itself. PP doesn't seem to want to do that, just attack DCC parents.

Funny how so many people are so angry the DCC doesn't want to lose its programs but nobody has a problem with all the special classes at wealthy schools that most other schools don't have.

What makes you believe that people don’t have problems with the wealthy schools have classes that others can’t access? Once again ya’ll seem to be making statements that are false in nature without doing any research to understand the other parts of the district? Oh and no one said you had to stop advocating for your community. What they said was they wouldn’t be joining you since you’ve made it crystal clear in you and the DCC against everyone else.

Huh? What makes it seem like it's the DCC versus everyone else? It's a petition from DCC folks calling for a better regional program process and fairer boundaries. That helps everyone, right? (Except for rich people/schools who are overly favored now, but even there, it's still probably only going to affect a small number of people negatively.). Super confused why upcounty people are taking a down-county petition as some kind of attack on them.

They assume everyone wants to go to their schools, but cannot afford it and we should be grateful to have our kids bussed to their schools.

I am not a DCC advocate but just to understand, why is “they”? It feels like there is a portion of schools who are not being heard. I’m interested in what the rest of the county outside of region 1 is thinking.

Many of the rest of the regions have some similar concerns, but they also have to parse that with the fact they are also the places that lack for abundance of programs and advance classes and staffing. Many of the programs that other schools have are local and less resourced, less rigorous and less comprehensive. This is something people have been complaining about for YEARS.

Even now when they talk about making Crown a holding school because district declining enrollment. That neglects to mention the fact that the boundary study around it was also meant to relieve overcrowding in the Upper County. Families that are now being told to potentially bus kids from Damascus to Crown and potentially waiting 7years for a new HS. Meanwhile there are whole subdivisions going up around them. And not to mention this same community advocated for removing Damascus from the boundary last year once the expansion got pulled from the CIP.

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If crown becomes a temporary or permanent holding school, then boundaries & regional programs need to be re-evaluated and re-drawn/re-assigned.

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Signed!

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Anonymous wrote:This is such a bullshit letter. We see right through this hey keep all the rich white school is the same and don’t rush anything else. GTFO

Huh? How'd you get that from the petition? It's not about favoring rich white schools at all. Did you read it?

NP- As an upcounty resident who read the petition and the comments about 50 MCCPTA delegates, I won’t be signing this petition despite agreeing with some of its points. Why? Because it seems to overwhelming focus on certain areas and not take into account the needs of many others parts of the county. This is evident by calling out Silver Spring and the DCC without even a bit of acknowledgement that others in the boundary studies experience split articulations. Further, 50 MCCPTA delegates when there is more than 200 schools, mean there vote represents less than 1/4 of the districts schools.

Folks are constantly talking about MCPS needing to reach out and communicate more and better. Seems the same can be said for this effort against MCPS.

You seem really triggered by other people advocating for their communities. We're not going to stop just because you want us to stfu.

DP. But pot…kettle…African American.

Huh? I have no problem with up county advocating for itself. PP doesn't seem to want to do that, just attack DCC parents.

Funny how so many people are so angry the DCC doesn't want to lose its programs but nobody has a problem with all the special classes at wealthy schools that most other schools don't have.

What makes you believe that people don’t have problems with the wealthy schools have classes that others can’t access? Once again ya’ll seem to be making statements that are false in nature without doing any research to understand the other parts of the district? Oh and no one said you had to stop advocating for your community. What they said was they wouldn’t be joining you since you’ve made it crystal clear in you and the DCC against everyone else.

That's not what's in the letter. That is a narrative you have created in your head. Sorry you won't be joining us but it sounds like you are not aligned with us and frankly just have animus towards the DCC. Maybe you work for CO since they clearly do too.

Is it a created narrative when the letter specifically calls out Silver Spring, the DCC, or SSIMS without mentioning any place else? If you wanted it to be neutral either don’t call out any school/area and make generalized comments OR include a more wide ranging look at the issues created across the district while acknowledging the vast problems and complaints this seeks to solve.

The top of the letter refers to East County. If you don't want East County to advocate for itself you can f yourself in

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I think the real issue is the DCC has masked all the east county neighborhoods zoned to bellow avg schools that when perspective buyers look at the zoned schools young parents think they can pick a better school even though all the choices are meh and the best of what is available is often over capacity. I bet if you looked under the covers here you would find a bunch of sacred home owners using poor kids as their proxies even though they will never use any of the advanced programs or choices in measurable percentages.

The lowest ranked DCC schools would do a little better when more kids stay home and the middle ranked schools like Blair will do much worse when the influx dries up. Its funny the DCC doesn't want to empower the equity bounce internally within its system that they want from the richer schools. I always said be careful what you wish for in redistricting which the East county has cried for years for, Slice up Whitman all you want in any direction you will only get different rich kids, a few blocks can completely change an east county schools makeup and rarely for the better. Truth is the strongest gerrymandering is in the east county when it comes to SFH areas vs Apts.

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Anonymous wrote:They should leave the DCC and NEC alone and make consortia in the rest of the county.

we all get that school choice = self-segregation, right?

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Anonymous wrote:They should leave the DCC and NEC alone and make consortia in the rest of the county.

we all get that school choice = self-segregation, right?

You also get that the regional program perpetuates that self-segregation, right? Who do you think are the families that are going to sign up and be capable of supporting their kids going to a school other than their home school? Primarily white and Asian families, and to the extent that minority students are in these programs, they will be most likely upper middle-class Black and Hispanic families who can shuttle their kids to and from those schools.

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Anonymous wrote:They should leave the DCC and NEC alone and make consortia in the rest of the county.

we all get that school choice = self-segregation, right?

You also get that the regional program perpetuates that self-segregation, right? Who do you think are the families that are going to sign up and be capable of supporting their kids going to a school other than their home school? Primarily white and Asian families, and to the extent that minority students are in these programs, they will be most likely upper middle-class Black and Hispanic families who can shuttle their kids to and from those schools.

Yes, exactly! I don’t support either the regional model or the consortia.

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Anonymous wrote:They should leave the DCC and NEC alone and make consortia in the rest of the county.

we all get that school choice = self-segregation, right?

You also get that the regional program perpetuates that self-segregation, right? Who do you think are the families that are going to sign up and be capable of supporting their kids going to a school other than their home school? Primarily white and Asian families, and to the extent that minority students are in these programs, they will be most likely upper middle-class Black and Hispanic families who can shuttle their kids to and from those schools.

Yes, exactly! I don’t support either the regional model or the consortia.

I think we should work hard at having all strong high schools with no school choice, but with that is also an end to the middle school consortium and DCC. I think my frustration over reading some of these entries is that it comes across that people want every school to be identical, which is impossible. Schools cannot run a class for 5 kids! So MCPS is doing the next best thing- making sure that every high school has a core set of advanced courses. What schools choose to do after that is that school's decision and should be based on the interests of the students they are serving and the skills of the teachers. Comparison is the thief of joy. Every school can bring something different to the table, which is a good thing. And every student has access to dual enrollment if they are ready for the most advanced classes.

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Anonymous wrote:This is such a bullshit letter. We see right through this hey keep all the rich white school is the same and don’t rush anything else. GTFO

Huh? How'd you get that from the petition? It's not about favoring rich white schools at all. Did you read it?

NP- As an upcounty resident who read the petition and the comments about 50 MCCPTA delegates, I won’t be signing this petition despite agreeing with some of its points. Why? Because it seems to overwhelming focus on certain areas and not take into account the needs of many others parts of the county. This is evident by calling out Silver Spring and the DCC without even a bit of acknowledgement that others in the boundary studies experience split articulations. Further, 50 MCCPTA delegates when there is more than 200 schools, mean there vote represents less than 1/4 of the districts schools.

Folks are constantly talking about MCPS needing to reach out and communicate more and better. Seems the same can be said for this effort against MCPS.

I"m an MCCPTA delegate and there were over 130 people at the delegates meeting representing over 50 schools and all the clusters.

I voted for the resolution. I don't like the DCC, but I don't think this model has been thought through yet. I'd much rather see strong local schools.