Can we just stop importing dogs from other states?

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Anonymous wrote:So I foster for a rescue and also work with shelter dogs. Shelters feed the dogs and that’s about it. Some might give vaccines if the dogs are puppies or meds if the dogs are super sick. But not much else and it costs a shelter to keep a dog there a lot. Rescues commit to spaying/neutering their dogs. Have you seen how much that is? Hundreds. Also they vaccinate every puppy and unvaccinated dogs. The heartworm and flea preventatives also aren’t cheap. That is a minimum of what every rescue does for every dog. If they are sick, well costs go up. Many rescues don’t include food in this since fosters generally pick that up, like myself. I have even paid for some medical bills for my fosters because I felt bad for the rescue being short on funds. A typical foster fee should be about $500 for young dogs and no the rescue doesn’t profit from that. They make money with donations. This is why shelter dogs can be free and rescue dogs have a fee.


I don't know what shelter you work with, but I think you've gotten this a bit backwards. Every shelter I've ever worked for has had a government budget supplemented with donations. They perform medical procedures, including spay/neuter, vax all their animals, deworm... The reason their adoption fees are lower than rescues is scale. When all you do is rescue dogs and cats, and you have a government budget for doing so, you can purchase in bulk, etc. and save on costs. Smaller rescues don't have that, which is why their prices are higher. They have volunteers and people using their own funds to provide what the pets need, plus contracts with local vets which can help lower some of the costs (many of your "rescue" pets got their spay/neuter from the shelter).

Either way, very few of these orgs are making a profit. The one or two that do have some VERY scammy practices going on (cooked books, exploited volunteers...). $500 for a dog should be considered a bare minimum. If you can't afford it, you probably can't afford to properly care for the dog, either.


Why would I go to a rescue and pay $500 plus when I can go to a well known/trusted breeder and get a pure bred dog? With a breeder, I would know genetic info on the do I get and have a decent understanding of disposition.

I feel folks working rescue forget the fact that they are doing it to save animals. You should be happy that people go there to adopt and save a dog/cat from being euthenized. Start charging "at least 500 - bare minimum" and people (like me) will just spend the money for pure bread pets.


Pure bread pets are all you seem responsible enough for handling, as you don't seem to understand that no breeder is going to offer you a purebred anything worth having for less than several thousand dollars. There are very few reputable breeders in a world where there's such a ridiculous glut of unwanted dogs, and even fewer responsible owners who buy one. A purebred dog isn't magically trained or guaranteed in any way. While some pedigreed dogs may have certain genetic traits and dispositions their offspring may/may not inherit, those latent traits are basically meaningless without the exact same time and training any other dog would need to be a decent pet dog, which is all you're really qualified to handle.

If you really need a working breed to herd your sheep or retrieve your ducks, you're not making this argument.


"Responsible enough to handle" what does this even mean? Seems like something idiotic to add to an already bad argument. You entire premise sounds like you pulled it out of your fourth point of contact (ass) - based on some "feeling" you have.

No dog is magically anything, but getting one from a decent breeder gets you a better understanding of its temperament. A rescue is an aunknown. Both options are fine, but a rescue should not cost close to what a decent breeder charges.


"Pure bread pets are all you seem responsible enough for handling" i.e. a pet made of bread is all the pp should be responsible for, as an actual dog seems beyond their skill level.

But as for the bolded, yes. That's actually the whole point. No rescue ($300-$600) is charging anywhere near what a decent, reputable breeder should be charging ($5000+, depending on actual breed, not designer mutts). Anything less is as much an unknown as a rescue, as lesser-quality, less-reputable breeders don't test or breed for temperament (see all the -poos and -doodles if you need an example).




I think you are certifiably insane in your hatred of doodles aka designer mutts.

And no, purebred dogs don’t have to cost 5k.


I think using ableism as a "sick burn" reveals a weak point, and probably a weak mind, but you can say whatever you please however you want to.

A reputable breeder runs their business like a business. A business needs to recoup costs, including labor, overhead, etc. while maintaining high quality control standards and sustainable practices. This likely means a litter every other year, at most, to allow the breeding dogs time to recover. One litter every two years isn't going to bring in much of an income at all, and reputable breeders usually have more than one litter for that reason. Still, the cost of properly vetting, training, testing, breeding, and caring for their stock means that puppies do, in fact, cost thousands. Anyone selling them for less is cutting corners somewhere, and it's usually quality. Maybe they don't run genetic testing. Maybe they overbreed their dogs. Maybe they keep them in awful conditions... There's no way to ethically run a dog breeding business that isn't at significant risk of operating at a loss.

The rise of the -doodles and -poos led to the same nonsense literally every other fad breed created: dogs that aren't properly vetted for temperament, overbred by backyard/hobbyist breeders who don't run adequate genetic testing, often keeping the dogs in substandard housing conditions and selling them at what would be a loss for an ethical breeder because they're just doing it "because they love dogs" and want the pocket money.

Purebred animals are very much a case of "you get what you pay for" and "buyer beware". If you're upset about rescues charging less than a grand for a dog, you really don't understand what goes into caring for a dog of any type and probably shouldn't have one.


I think anyone understands that puppies cost $$$. But a dog from the pound should be $250. A rescue dog is a dog that you’re doing a favor for and they likely have issues. A puppy comes from a wonderful home and you can raise it to be how you want it. I’ve done both.


Yeah, and a dozen eggs "should" cost a buck fifty. But here we are. The cost of caring for abandoned/rescued animals can and should be factored into the "adoption fee" (aka the price of the animal you're buying). I've had puppies from shelters that were damn near perfect, and purebreds that had all kinds of "issues". Genetics aren't a guarantee, and prices don't necessarily reflect quality.
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Anonymous wrote:I would have happily paid $5k for a dog bred ethically to be a healthy family pet. Good luck finding one.

The problem with the AKC is they aren’t trying to meet the pet market. They care about breed standards, which I dgaf about. They prioritize that over health. They’re terrible at marketing. I tried contacting a few breeders through the AKC directory and they didn’t even respond.

The problem with rescues is they’re not articulating their long term vision beyond continuing to prop up backyard pit and hound breeders in the south. I can’t believe all those puppies are accidents. People are discarding them.

That’s why I have a cockapoo. It’s a great little dog without a work drive I don’t need or insane conformation issues. The breeder was easy to contact and seemed reasonably ethical.


Huh? For 5k you can easily get the dog of your dreams. More like $3000-3500 and you can have a dog who is bred perfectly, who has a mom with a calm pregnancy, calm puppyhood, and is bred according to breed standards (this is different for every breed whether you want a hunting dog or a cuddly one who would never in a million years bite a child.) I’m convinced the mom dogs raise the dogs just like they were raised. Bad mom dogs pass on their trauma.


No, you can’t. I took an AKC quiz and it said to consider Havanese. Great! I don’t want to have the long hair, but I can see they’re lovely little dogs. I couldn’t get a single breeder to even respond to my inquiry, and googling turned up horror stories. I could get one from the Amish, sure, but I know they have eye and other problems even if I could find a purebred one and that seems more likely from a puppy mill type place.

I don’t care about the breed standard or appearance at all. I’m looking for a family pet.
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Anonymous wrote:I would have happily paid $5k for a dog bred ethically to be a healthy family pet. Good luck finding one.

The problem with the AKC is they aren’t trying to meet the pet market. They care about breed standards, which I dgaf about. They prioritize that over health. They’re terrible at marketing. I tried contacting a few breeders through the AKC directory and they didn’t even respond.

The problem with rescues is they’re not articulating their long term vision beyond continuing to prop up backyard pit and hound breeders in the south. I can’t believe all those puppies are accidents. People are discarding them.

That’s why I have a cockapoo. It’s a great little dog without a work drive I don’t need or insane conformation issues. The breeder was easy to contact and seemed reasonably ethical.


Huh? For 5k you can easily get the dog of your dreams. More like $3000-3500 and you can have a dog who is bred perfectly, who has a mom with a calm pregnancy, calm puppyhood, and is bred according to breed standards (this is different for every breed whether you want a hunting dog or a cuddly one who would never in a million years bite a child.) I’m convinced the mom dogs raise the dogs just like they were raised. Bad mom dogs pass on their trauma.


No, you can’t. I took an AKC quiz and it said to consider Havanese. Great! I don’t want to have the long hair, but I can see they’re lovely little dogs. I couldn’t get a single breeder to even respond to my inquiry, and googling turned up horror stories. I could get one from the Amish, sure, but I know they have eye and other problems even if I could find a purebred one and that seems more likely from a puppy mill type place.

I don’t care about the breed standard or appearance at all. I’m looking for a family pet.


We used this breeder and she’s great. She just had a litter. https://itsahavaneseworld.com/
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Anonymous wrote:I would have happily paid $5k for a dog bred ethically to be a healthy family pet. Good luck finding one.

The problem with the AKC is they aren’t trying to meet the pet market. They care about breed standards, which I dgaf about. They prioritize that over health. They’re terrible at marketing. I tried contacting a few breeders through the AKC directory and they didn’t even respond.

The problem with rescues is they’re not articulating their long term vision beyond continuing to prop up backyard pit and hound breeders in the south. I can’t believe all those puppies are accidents. People are discarding them.

That’s why I have a cockapoo. It’s a great little dog without a work drive I don’t need or insane conformation issues. The breeder was easy to contact and seemed reasonably ethical.


Huh? For 5k you can easily get the dog of your dreams. More like $3000-3500 and you can have a dog who is bred perfectly, who has a mom with a calm pregnancy, calm puppyhood, and is bred according to breed standards (this is different for every breed whether you want a hunting dog or a cuddly one who would never in a million years bite a child.) I’m convinced the mom dogs raise the dogs just like they were raised. Bad mom dogs pass on their trauma.


No, you can’t. I took an AKC quiz and it said to consider Havanese. Great! I don’t want to have the long hair, but I can see they’re lovely little dogs. I couldn’t get a single breeder to even respond to my inquiry, and googling turned up horror stories. I could get one from the Amish, sure, but I know they have eye and other problems even if I could find a purebred one and that seems more likely from a puppy mill type place.

I don’t care about the breed standard or appearance at all. I’m looking for a family pet.


We used this breeder and she’s great. She just had a litter. https://itsahavaneseworld.com/


Backyard mutt breeder. One of those pics of her dogs shows obvious eye defects. Woof.
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Anonymous wrote:I would have happily paid $5k for a dog bred ethically to be a healthy family pet. Good luck finding one.

The problem with the AKC is they aren’t trying to meet the pet market. They care about breed standards, which I dgaf about. They prioritize that over health. They’re terrible at marketing. I tried contacting a few breeders through the AKC directory and they didn’t even respond.

The problem with rescues is they’re not articulating their long term vision beyond continuing to prop up backyard pit and hound breeders in the south. I can’t believe all those puppies are accidents. People are discarding them.

That’s why I have a cockapoo. It’s a great little dog without a work drive I don’t need or insane conformation issues. The breeder was easy to contact and seemed reasonably ethical.


Huh? For 5k you can easily get the dog of your dreams. More like $3000-3500 and you can have a dog who is bred perfectly, who has a mom with a calm pregnancy, calm puppyhood, and is bred according to breed standards (this is different for every breed whether you want a hunting dog or a cuddly one who would never in a million years bite a child.) I’m convinced the mom dogs raise the dogs just like they were raised. Bad mom dogs pass on their trauma.


No, you can’t. I took an AKC quiz and it said to consider Havanese. Great! I don’t want to have the long hair, but I can see they’re lovely little dogs. I couldn’t get a single breeder to even respond to my inquiry, and googling turned up horror stories. I could get one from the Amish, sure, but I know they have eye and other problems even if I could find a purebred one and that seems more likely from a puppy mill type place.

I don’t care about the breed standard or appearance at all. I’m looking for a family pet.


We used this breeder and she’s great. She just had a litter. https://itsahavaneseworld.com/


Backyard mutt breeder. One of those pics of her dogs shows obvious eye defects. Woof.


No, they aren’t. Good try.
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Anonymous wrote:I would have happily paid $5k for a dog bred ethically to be a healthy family pet. Good luck finding one.

The problem with the AKC is they aren’t trying to meet the pet market. They care about breed standards, which I dgaf about. They prioritize that over health. They’re terrible at marketing. I tried contacting a few breeders through the AKC directory and they didn’t even respond.

The problem with rescues is they’re not articulating their long term vision beyond continuing to prop up backyard pit and hound breeders in the south. I can’t believe all those puppies are accidents. People are discarding them.

That’s why I have a cockapoo. It’s a great little dog without a work drive I don’t need or insane conformation issues. The breeder was easy to contact and seemed reasonably ethical.


Huh? For 5k you can easily get the dog of your dreams. More like $3000-3500 and you can have a dog who is bred perfectly, who has a mom with a calm pregnancy, calm puppyhood, and is bred according to breed standards (this is different for every breed whether you want a hunting dog or a cuddly one who would never in a million years bite a child.) I’m convinced the mom dogs raise the dogs just like they were raised. Bad mom dogs pass on their trauma.


No, you can’t. I took an AKC quiz and it said to consider Havanese. Great! I don’t want to have the long hair, but I can see they’re lovely little dogs. I couldn’t get a single breeder to even respond to my inquiry, and googling turned up horror stories. I could get one from the Amish, sure, but I know they have eye and other problems even if I could find a purebred one and that seems more likely from a puppy mill type place.

I don’t care about the breed standard or appearance at all. I’m looking for a family pet.


We used this breeder and she’s great. She just had a litter. https://itsahavaneseworld.com/


Backyard mutt breeder. One of those pics of her dogs shows obvious eye defects. Woof.


No, they aren’t. Good try.


Yes, they are. They're a "home breeder" with very little experience, no posted lab results, no ability to see flaws that are obvious in photos, and no business breeding mutts for profit. They're irresponsible, and lack ethics. Puppies for profit, pure and simple.
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Anonymous wrote:I would have happily paid $5k for a dog bred ethically to be a healthy family pet. Good luck finding one.

The problem with the AKC is they aren’t trying to meet the pet market. They care about breed standards, which I dgaf about. They prioritize that over health. They’re terrible at marketing. I tried contacting a few breeders through the AKC directory and they didn’t even respond.

The problem with rescues is they’re not articulating their long term vision beyond continuing to prop up backyard pit and hound breeders in the south. I can’t believe all those puppies are accidents. People are discarding them.

That’s why I have a cockapoo. It’s a great little dog without a work drive I don’t need or insane conformation issues. The breeder was easy to contact and seemed reasonably ethical.


Huh? For 5k you can easily get the dog of your dreams. More like $3000-3500 and you can have a dog who is bred perfectly, who has a mom with a calm pregnancy, calm puppyhood, and is bred according to breed standards (this is different for every breed whether you want a hunting dog or a cuddly one who would never in a million years bite a child.) I’m convinced the mom dogs raise the dogs just like they were raised. Bad mom dogs pass on their trauma.


No, you can’t. I took an AKC quiz and it said to consider Havanese. Great! I don’t want to have the long hair, but I can see they’re lovely little dogs. I couldn’t get a single breeder to even respond to my inquiry, and googling turned up horror stories. I could get one from the Amish, sure, but I know they have eye and other problems even if I could find a purebred one and that seems more likely from a puppy mill type place.

I don’t care about the breed standard or appearance at all. I’m looking for a family pet.


We used this breeder and she’s great. She just had a litter. https://itsahavaneseworld.com/


Backyard mutt breeder. One of those pics of her dogs shows obvious eye defects. Woof.


No, they aren’t. Good try.


Yes, they are. They're a "home breeder" with very little experience, no posted lab results, no ability to see flaws that are obvious in photos, and no business breeding mutts for profit. They're irresponsible, and lack ethics. Puppies for profit, pure and simple.


You can ask for it. They don’t need to post it as they are mostly word of mounts and akc. I’d rather have a home breeder who years later is available for support vs a puppy milk. Most aren’t looking for show dogs just nice pets. Don't like it, don’t go to a breeder. You cannot say they lack ethics and are irresponsible when you know nothing about them.

Most rescues are resellers and some get their dogs in unethical ways and have issues. That’s why lots of rescue dogs are returned.
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Anonymous wrote:I would have happily paid $5k for a dog bred ethically to be a healthy family pet. Good luck finding one.

The problem with the AKC is they aren’t trying to meet the pet market. They care about breed standards, which I dgaf about. They prioritize that over health. They’re terrible at marketing. I tried contacting a few breeders through the AKC directory and they didn’t even respond.

The problem with rescues is they’re not articulating their long term vision beyond continuing to prop up backyard pit and hound breeders in the south. I can’t believe all those puppies are accidents. People are discarding them.

That’s why I have a cockapoo. It’s a great little dog without a work drive I don’t need or insane conformation issues. The breeder was easy to contact and seemed reasonably ethical.


Huh? For 5k you can easily get the dog of your dreams. More like $3000-3500 and you can have a dog who is bred perfectly, who has a mom with a calm pregnancy, calm puppyhood, and is bred according to breed standards (this is different for every breed whether you want a hunting dog or a cuddly one who would never in a million years bite a child.) I’m convinced the mom dogs raise the dogs just like they were raised. Bad mom dogs pass on their trauma.


No, you can’t. I took an AKC quiz and it said to consider Havanese. Great! I don’t want to have the long hair, but I can see they’re lovely little dogs. I couldn’t get a single breeder to even respond to my inquiry, and googling turned up horror stories. I could get one from the Amish, sure, but I know they have eye and other problems even if I could find a purebred one and that seems more likely from a puppy mill type place.

I don’t care about the breed standard or appearance at all. I’m looking for a family pet.


We used this breeder and she’s great. She just had a litter. https://itsahavaneseworld.com/


Backyard mutt breeder. One of those pics of her dogs shows obvious eye defects. Woof.


No, they aren’t. Good try.


Yes, they are. They're a "home breeder" with very little experience, no posted lab results, no ability to see flaws that are obvious in photos, and no business breeding mutts for profit. They're irresponsible, and lack ethics. Puppies for profit, pure and simple.


You can ask for it. They don’t need to post it as they are mostly word of mounts and akc. I’d rather have a home breeder who years later is available for support vs a puppy milk. Most aren’t looking for show dogs just nice pets. Don't like it, don’t go to a breeder. You cannot say they lack ethics and are irresponsible when you know nothing about them.

Most rescues are resellers and some get their dogs in unethical ways and have issues. That’s why lots of rescue dogs are returned.


I do know something about them: they're breeding mutts for profit. There's no ethical, responsible way to do that, so the point stands.

Sorry it upsets you, but that's the reality.
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Anonymous wrote:I would have happily paid $5k for a dog bred ethically to be a healthy family pet. Good luck finding one.

The problem with the AKC is they aren’t trying to meet the pet market. They care about breed standards, which I dgaf about. They prioritize that over health. They’re terrible at marketing. I tried contacting a few breeders through the AKC directory and they didn’t even respond.

The problem with rescues is they’re not articulating their long term vision beyond continuing to prop up backyard pit and hound breeders in the south. I can’t believe all those puppies are accidents. People are discarding them.

That’s why I have a cockapoo. It’s a great little dog without a work drive I don’t need or insane conformation issues. The breeder was easy to contact and seemed reasonably ethical.


Huh? For 5k you can easily get the dog of your dreams. More like $3000-3500 and you can have a dog who is bred perfectly, who has a mom with a calm pregnancy, calm puppyhood, and is bred according to breed standards (this is different for every breed whether you want a hunting dog or a cuddly one who would never in a million years bite a child.) I’m convinced the mom dogs raise the dogs just like they were raised. Bad mom dogs pass on their trauma.


No, you can’t. I took an AKC quiz and it said to consider Havanese. Great! I don’t want to have the long hair, but I can see they’re lovely little dogs. I couldn’t get a single breeder to even respond to my inquiry, and googling turned up horror stories. I could get one from the Amish, sure, but I know they have eye and other problems even if I could find a purebred one and that seems more likely from a puppy mill type place.

I don’t care about the breed standard or appearance at all. I’m looking for a family pet.


We used this breeder and she’s great. She just had a litter. https://itsahavaneseworld.com/


Backyard mutt breeder. One of those pics of her dogs shows obvious eye defects. Woof.


No, they aren’t. Good try.


Yes, they are. They're a "home breeder" with very little experience, no posted lab results, no ability to see flaws that are obvious in photos, and no business breeding mutts for profit. They're irresponsible, and lack ethics. Puppies for profit, pure and simple.


You can ask for it. They don’t need to post it as they are mostly word of mounts and akc. I’d rather have a home breeder who years later is available for support vs a puppy milk. Most aren’t looking for show dogs just nice pets. Don't like it, don’t go to a breeder. You cannot say they lack ethics and are irresponsible when you know nothing about them.

Most rescues are resellers and some get their dogs in unethical ways and have issues. That’s why lots of rescue dogs are returned.


I do know something about them: they're breeding mutts for profit. There's no ethical, responsible way to do that, so the point stands.

Sorry it upsets you, but that's the reality.


No, you don’t do stop the theater. They are akc. Rescues resell dogs for profit including puppies they buy and stollen dogs.
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This breeder is in NC anyway. But I don’t think they are on the AKC website. Or I couldn’t find them.
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Anonymous wrote:I would have happily paid $5k for a dog bred ethically to be a healthy family pet. Good luck finding one.

The problem with the AKC is they aren’t trying to meet the pet market. They care about breed standards, which I dgaf about. They prioritize that over health. They’re terrible at marketing. I tried contacting a few breeders through the AKC directory and they didn’t even respond.

The problem with rescues is they’re not articulating their long term vision beyond continuing to prop up backyard pit and hound breeders in the south. I can’t believe all those puppies are accidents. People are discarding them.

That’s why I have a cockapoo. It’s a great little dog without a work drive I don’t need or insane conformation issues. The breeder was easy to contact and seemed reasonably ethical.


Huh? For 5k you can easily get the dog of your dreams. More like $3000-3500 and you can have a dog who is bred perfectly, who has a mom with a calm pregnancy, calm puppyhood, and is bred according to breed standards (this is different for every breed whether you want a hunting dog or a cuddly one who would never in a million years bite a child.) I’m convinced the mom dogs raise the dogs just like they were raised. Bad mom dogs pass on their trauma.


No, you can’t. I took an AKC quiz and it said to consider Havanese. Great! I don’t want to have the long hair, but I can see they’re lovely little dogs. I couldn’t get a single breeder to even respond to my inquiry, and googling turned up horror stories. I could get one from the Amish, sure, but I know they have eye and other problems even if I could find a purebred one and that seems more likely from a puppy mill type place.

I don’t care about the breed standard or appearance at all. I’m looking for a family pet.


We used this breeder and she’s great. She just had a litter. https://itsahavaneseworld.com/


Backyard mutt breeder. One of those pics of her dogs shows obvious eye defects. Woof.


No, they aren’t. Good try.


Yes, they are. They're a "home breeder" with very little experience, no posted lab results, no ability to see flaws that are obvious in photos, and no business breeding mutts for profit. They're irresponsible, and lack ethics. Puppies for profit, pure and simple.


You can ask for it. They don’t need to post it as they are mostly word of mounts and akc. I’d rather have a home breeder who years later is available for support vs a puppy milk. Most aren’t looking for show dogs just nice pets. Don't like it, don’t go to a breeder. You cannot say they lack ethics and are irresponsible when you know nothing about them.

Most rescues are resellers and some get their dogs in unethical ways and have issues. That’s why lots of rescue dogs are returned.


I do know something about them: they're breeding mutts for profit. There's no ethical, responsible way to do that, so the point stands.

Sorry it upsets you, but that's the reality.


No, you don’t do stop the theater. They are akc. Rescues resell dogs for profit including puppies they buy and stollen dogs.


Is a stollen dog pure bread?

Please look up how meaningless "akc" is. It's not a guarantee of ethics or responsible breeding at all. The link is for a backyard/at-home hobby breeder of mutts. "cavanese" isn't an akc breed, nor is "cockapoo" or any of the -doodles. These are mutts, and the only reason they're being created is profit. No ethical, responsible breeder is making mutts to advance a breed standard, preserve genetics, maintain a working line, etc. They're all bred by hobbyist for one purpose: money.

You can buy one, if you want. Some of them are fine dogs. Just understand what you're doing, because if you're upset that rescues "resell dogs for profit", well, these breeders literally create dogs for profit. In a world that is already overfilled with unwanted dogs looking for homes, that's simply not ethical.
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