10/16 Board of Ed meeting

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Anonymous wrote:So Northwood will have theater and dance and that's it?

It also gets the interest based public service program and the interest based Middle College (MC?) program.

They’ve always had the Mc. I don’t think that many would choose public service. They need to poll families and ask what they want.

As Karla Silvestre is pointing out, every high school offers the opportunity to do DE at MC. So that's not a reason to move to a different high school.

De is an issue as the classes don’t align with the MCPS schedule and MCPS does not provide transportation. Her pushing it is a conflict of interest as she is the MCPS liaison at MC.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the program groupings for region 1?

Brand new and not up online yet. The changes I remember is that they are sending the criteria-based humanities program from BCC (bad) to Whitman (much worse), and that they are letting Einstein keep only the music part of the performing arts magnet (theater and dance at Northwood.)

Einstein also has medical science and healthcare

Einstein has no advanced science and math classes so what does this look like.

9th and 10th grade - honors bio and honors chem, cohorted
11th and 12 grade science are IB Bio and IB Physics
And a "Biomedical" sequence

Math is Algebra 1 in 9th grade, Algebra 2 in 10th, and then for 11th and 12th it says "secondary math pathway"

So, they aren’t adding any5ing. Algebra in 9th is the slowest path.

Yes, this is also my observation. This "special biomedical science program" is subpar than what a normal HS can offer to a high-achiever. For a student who would like to become a doctor, they'd better stay in local HS, take AP classes, and their resume would look better than those go through this program.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe they are literally naming their upcoming engagement as "information sessions" yet pretending they collect feedback at them, and the board seems to be buying it.

I'm very disappointed to the board reaction today. BOE doesn't know how to express criticism at all, or they truly love this model whole heartedly. I like county council meeting much better.

I agree. County council is by far more representative of the county's voices, not this toothless wonder of a BOE. I will campaign and vote for each and every one of them if they do not increase funding per MCPS's request for this half-baked money pit proposal.

They seem like zombies. Do they even comprehend the massive changes MCPS is proposing that have an enormous price tag?

Two of them are looking forward to county council seats, so they can better serve MCPS. Money is not a problem

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Anonymous wrote:What are the program groupings for region 1?

Brand new and not up online yet. The changes I remember is that they are sending the criteria-based humanities program from BCC (bad) to Whitman (much worse), and that they are letting Einstein keep only the music part of the performing arts magnet (theater and dance at Northwood.)

Einstein also has medical science and healthcare

There’s no interest at Einstein to hold that magnet!

Speak for yourself. My kids would love that and as a parent of kids inbounds for Einstein, I think it’s a great switch!

Your future doctors and nurses need far more than the program they are offering.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the program groupings for region 1?

Brand new and not up online yet. The changes I remember is that they are sending the criteria-based humanities program from BCC (bad) to Whitman (much worse), and that they are letting Einstein keep only the music part of the performing arts magnet (theater and dance at Northwood.)

Einstein also has medical science and healthcare

Einstein has no advanced science and math classes so what does this look like.

9th and 10th grade - honors bio and honors chem, cohorted
11th and 12 grade science are IB Bio and IB Physics
And a "Biomedical" sequence

Math is Algebra 1 in 9th grade, Algebra 2 in 10th, and then for 11th and 12th it says "secondary math pathway"

So, they aren’t adding any5ing. Algebra in 9th is the slowest path.

Yes, this is also my observation. This "special biomedical science program" is subpar than what a normal HS can offer to a high-achiever. For a student who would like to become a doctor, they'd better stay in local HS, take AP classes, and their resume would look better than those go through this program.

This exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the program groupings for region 1?

Brand new and not up online yet. The changes I remember is that they are sending the criteria-based humanities program from BCC (bad) to Whitman (much worse), and that they are letting Einstein keep only the music part of the performing arts magnet (theater and dance at Northwood.)

Einstein also has medical science and healthcare

There’s no interest at Einstein to hold that magnet!

Speak for yourself. My kids would love that and as a parent of kids inbounds for Einstein, I think it’s a great switch!

That’s great for YOUR kid but majority of Einstein students are into the arts. Almost 700 students are enrolled into The Visual and Performing Arts Academy. A medical program will not survive there.

Einstein has over 2,000 students. 700 is not “the majority” of 2,000.

Moreover, if there are resources dedicated to medical sciences, students interested in those things will enroll. It’s not like the other 1,300 kids at Einstein are also into arts and just didn’t get in to VAPA.

Most students certainly weren’t forced to attend Einstein under the current model. Just like the Teachers Academy, the new program may attract some students, but it won’t be sustainable in the long run, which could lead to cuts or reduced resources. No one thinks it’s a bad idea for a program, but it’s unlikely to thrive at a school that’s renowned for its arts programs.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the program groupings for region 1?

Brand new and not up online yet. The changes I remember is that they are sending the criteria-based humanities program from BCC (bad) to Whitman (much worse), and that they are letting Einstein keep only the music part of the performing arts magnet (theater and dance at Northwood.)

Einstein also has medical science and healthcare

Einstein has no advanced science and math classes so what does this look like.

9th and 10th grade - honors bio and honors chem, cohorted
11th and 12 grade science are IB Bio and IB Physics
And a "Biomedical" sequence

Math is Algebra 1 in 9th grade, Algebra 2 in 10th, and then for 11th and 12th it says "secondary math pathway"

So, they aren’t adding any5ing. Algebra in 9th is the slowest path.

Yes, this is also my observation. This "special biomedical science program" is subpar than what a normal HS can offer to a high-achiever. For a student who would like to become a doctor, they'd better stay in local HS, take AP classes, and their resume would look better than those go through this program.

So why should taxpayers give millions more than we already pay for these underwhelming and inequitable programs?

We should focus on strengthening our core subjects, especially in K–8, which is where the inequity starts, as Maloo and I think Stewart pointed out. If we need to spend more taxpayer money, spend it on fixing the actual source of the inequity.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the program groupings for region 1?

Brand new and not up online yet. The changes I remember is that they are sending the criteria-based humanities program from BCC (bad) to Whitman (much worse), and that they are letting Einstein keep only the music part of the performing arts magnet (theater and dance at Northwood.)

Einstein also has medical science and healthcare

Einstein has no advanced science and math classes so what does this look like.

9th and 10th grade - honors bio and honors chem, cohorted
11th and 12 grade science are IB Bio and IB Physics
And a "Biomedical" sequence

Math is Algebra 1 in 9th grade, Algebra 2 in 10th, and then for 11th and 12th it says "secondary math pathway"

So, they aren’t adding any5ing. Algebra in 9th is the slowest path.

Yes, this is also my observation. This "special biomedical science program" is subpar than what a normal HS can offer to a high-achiever. For a student who would like to become a doctor, they'd better stay in local HS, take AP classes, and their resume would look better than those go through this program.

I'm curious - is IB Bio and IB Physics less advanced than the AP versions?

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Anonymous wrote:What are the program groupings for region 1?

Brand new and not up online yet. The changes I remember is that they are sending the criteria-based humanities program from BCC (bad) to Whitman (much worse), and that they are letting Einstein keep only the music part of the performing arts magnet (theater and dance at Northwood.)

Einstein also has medical science and healthcare

There’s no interest at Einstein to hold that magnet!

Speak for yourself. My kids would love that and as a parent of kids inbounds for Einstein, I think it’s a great switch!

That’s great for YOUR kid but majority of Einstein students are into the arts. Almost 700 students are enrolled into The Visual and Performing Arts Academy. A medical program will not survive there.

Einstein has over 2,000 students. 700 is not “the majority” of 2,000.

Moreover, if there are resources dedicated to medical sciences, students interested in those things will enroll. It’s not like the other 1,300 kids at Einstein are also into arts and just didn’t get in to VAPA.

Most students certainly weren’t forced to attend Einstein under the current model. Just like the Teachers Academy, the new program may attract some students, but it won’t be sustainable in the long run, which could lead to cuts or reduced resources. No one thinks it’s a bad idea for a program, but it’s unlikely to thrive at a school that’s renowned for its arts programs.

This is using the classes already at Einstein. It’s more for a CNA job vs doctors, nurses and researchers.

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Julie did mention toward the end of the session that BOE will host public hearing sessions in spring before the voting. I suppose those sessions will allow public inputs from not only boundary study but also program analysis? We can use those platforms to potentially provide the real feedbacks that MCPS pretends to have collected.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the program groupings for region 1?

Brand new and not up online yet. The changes I remember is that they are sending the criteria-based humanities program from BCC (bad) to Whitman (much worse), and that they are letting Einstein keep only the music part of the performing arts magnet (theater and dance at Northwood.)

Einstein also has medical science and healthcare

There’s no interest at Einstein to hold that magnet!

Speak for yourself. My kids would love that and as a parent of kids inbounds for Einstein, I think it’s a great switch!

Your future doctors and nurses need far more than the program they are offering.

Like college and medical/nursing school?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the program groupings for region 1?

Brand new and not up online yet. The changes I remember is that they are sending the criteria-based humanities program from BCC (bad) to Whitman (much worse), and that they are letting Einstein keep only the music part of the performing arts magnet (theater and dance at Northwood.)

Einstein also has medical science and healthcare

Einstein has no advanced science and math classes so what does this look like.

9th and 10th grade - honors bio and honors chem, cohorted
11th and 12 grade science are IB Bio and IB Physics
And a "Biomedical" sequence

Math is Algebra 1 in 9th grade, Algebra 2 in 10th, and then for 11th and 12th it says "secondary math pathway"

So, they aren’t adding any5ing. Algebra in 9th is the slowest path.

Yes, this is also my observation. This "special biomedical science program" is subpar than what a normal HS can offer to a high-achiever. For a student who would like to become a doctor, they'd better stay in local HS, take AP classes, and their resume would look better than those go through this program.

I'm curious - is IB Bio and IB Physics less advanced than the AP versions?

Depends on who you ask but no, nor is in math. This will not help kids trying to get into medical school.

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They're working hard to defend using MCPS-written curricula for various subjects. So then then how can they turn around and claim that they can't possibly keep the Eastern humanities magnet curriculum because it's MCPS-written?

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Anonymous wrote:What are the program groupings for region 1?

Brand new and not up online yet. The changes I remember is that they are sending the criteria-based humanities program from BCC (bad) to Whitman (much worse), and that they are letting Einstein keep only the music part of the performing arts magnet (theater and dance at Northwood.)

Einstein also has medical science and healthcare

Einstein has no advanced science and math classes so what does this look like.

9th and 10th grade - honors bio and honors chem, cohorted
11th and 12 grade science are IB Bio and IB Physics
And a "Biomedical" sequence

Math is Algebra 1 in 9th grade, Algebra 2 in 10th, and then for 11th and 12th it says "secondary math pathway"

So, they aren’t adding any5ing. Algebra in 9th is the slowest path.

Yes, this is also my observation. This "special biomedical science program" is subpar than what a normal HS can offer to a high-achiever. For a student who would like to become a doctor, they'd better stay in local HS, take AP classes, and their resume would look better than those go through this program.

I'm curious - is IB Bio and IB Physics less advanced than the AP versions?

Depends on who you ask but no, nor is in math. This will not help kids trying to get into medical school.

Correct. IB courses are generally less advanced than AP versions, but IB does have HL courses which are deeper.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the program groupings for region 1?

Brand new and not up online yet. The changes I remember is that they are sending the criteria-based humanities program from BCC (bad) to Whitman (much worse), and that they are letting Einstein keep only the music part of the performing arts magnet (theater and dance at Northwood.)

Einstein also has medical science and healthcare

There’s no interest at Einstein to hold that magnet!

Speak for yourself. My kids would love that and as a parent of kids inbounds for Einstein, I think it’s a great switch!

That’s great for YOUR kid but majority of Einstein students are into the arts. Almost 700 students are enrolled into The Visual and Performing Arts Academy. A medical program will not survive there.

Einstein has over 2,000 students. 700 is not “the majority” of 2,000.

Moreover, if there are resources dedicated to medical sciences, students interested in those things will enroll. It’s not like the other 1,300 kids at Einstein are also into arts and just didn’t get in to VAPA.

Most students certainly weren’t forced to attend Einstein under the current model. Just like the Teachers Academy, the new program may attract some students, but it won’t be sustainable in the long run, which could lead to cuts or reduced resources. No one thinks it’s a bad idea for a program, but it’s unlikely to thrive at a school that’s renowned for its arts programs.

They had a teachers academy and closed it due to lack of interest. No one is asking families what they want and need at their schools.