10/16 Board of Ed meeting

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Anonymous wrote:I watched the video public testimony from the BOE meeting on Thursday. I’m a bit puzzled by some of the comments from people about equity. I absolutely want equity for others and am fortunate to live in a wealthier area, but those comments from people, what do they want? Are they asking for MCPS to bus them from BCC and Woodlin ES 30 minutes away to schools to mix wealthy families with those who aren’t? Are they wanting poorer kids to be bussed 30 mins to their schools?

I get it on the margins like Kensington could be mixed with Einstein, or parts of Silver Spring could go to BCC, but to bring kids to Whitman from Silver Spring or from Churchill to Crown or from Darnestown to Crown just doesn’t make sense.

So what are these people really seeking?

Parts of Silver Spring already go to BCC. The area east of Grubb and the subsidized apartment buildings on East-West Highway. I paid less for my house in the Silver Spring part of BCC than my sister paid for her house in Woodside/Einstein.

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Anonymous wrote:I watched the video public testimony from the BOE meeting on Thursday. I’m a bit puzzled by some of the comments from people about equity. I absolutely want equity for others and am fortunate to live in a wealthier area, but those comments from people, what do they want? Are they asking for MCPS to bus them from BCC and Woodlin ES 30 minutes away to schools to mix wealthy families with those who aren’t? Are they wanting poorer kids to be bussed 30 mins to their schools?

I get it on the margins like Kensington could be mixed with Einstein, or parts of Silver Spring could go to BCC, but to bring kids to Whitman from Silver Spring or from Churchill to Crown or from Darnestown to Crown just doesn’t make sense.

So what are these people really seeking?

We are just pissed that these options leave some DCC schools still over crowded (Wheaton and Kennedy) but not the richer schools, that there is tons of split articulation forcing our kids to go to different middle schools than their friends but almost none for the richer schools, and that DCC FARMS rates get worse rather than better. And all of this is in every single option so basically it's like MCPS is saying "we won't even consider doing anything that the richer schools wouldn't like, the only choices are around which DCC families will get hurt more, fight amongst yourselves." (And this combined with the way they are taking the DCC away from us and hurting some of our schools with the program changes is just adding insult to injury.)

Wr don't want anything crazy, just a basic sense of fairness. But that is apparently too much to ask.

But you make no sense and talk out of both sides of your mouth. You look down on people who chose “wealthy schools” and say you would never want to buy there or send your kids to that environment but then right here you whine that your FARMS rate might go up. So which is it, you are cool with socioeconomic diversity or you’re only cool with it when it’s the exact amount you think is appropriate? You lament your kids possibly being sent to middle schools away from friends but you simultaneously love and want to keep your current DCC set up and have no problem when all those kids shuffle up and separate from friends in high school. You’re worried about overcrowding at 2 schools (Wheaton and Kennedy) that I don’t even think your child attends or will attend and to which you are not zoned. No one knows what you really want because all you actually say is harm the wealthier schools and not me.

That's a good point. It doesn't make sense for the DCC people to care about split articulation while arguing they want to....articulate to multiple high schools.

1) Going into the socially-brutal middle school years alongside a solid group of friends vs being separated from them is very different from going to different schools for high school.
2) With the DCC, kids can choose to stay together with friends at their base area school if that's their top priority, or pick a different school if what that other school offers is more important to them than going to school with pre-existing friends. It gives them choice. Split articulation for middle school forces kids apart and offers no choice. Totally different.

However when parents of kids at W schools don't want split articulation entering middle school we are racist a**holes who are only worried about our wealth. Got it.

So which is it? Is split articulation okay only for DCC kids because some older kids chose to attend a school other than their home school to access the same programs available at all the rich kids' home schools? Or is it bad for everyone? Or is your take that split articulation is only bad for your kids and those of your friends at similar schools and you dgaf about the East county because you don't know anyone there and an anonymous DCUM poster.hurt your feelings so you hate all our kids?

No, I don't want split articulation for anyone if they don't want it. Per the post I was responding to, I do think it's more important to maintain articulation through middle school (which was the point made by someone defending the DCC structure). Why must you continue to assume the absolute worst of an opinion that APPARENTLY MOST DCC PARENTS AGREE WITH. Again, why is it wrong for me to have the SAME OPINION because I live somewhere else?

You sound really sensitive about this topic. You literally paid a premium to live where you live because you think the kids where you live are better than the kids where I live and want your kid to be around the "better" kids. I have good friends that have made similar choices. They are lovely, kind people - probably the kindest I know. They didn't make these choices out of malice, but that doesn't mean racism doesn't play a role in their choices.

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Anonymous wrote:I watched the video public testimony from the BOE meeting on Thursday. I’m a bit puzzled by some of the comments from people about equity. I absolutely want equity for others and am fortunate to live in a wealthier area, but those comments from people, what do they want? Are they asking for MCPS to bus them from BCC and Woodlin ES 30 minutes away to schools to mix wealthy families with those who aren’t? Are they wanting poorer kids to be bussed 30 mins to their schools?

I get it on the margins like Kensington could be mixed with Einstein, or parts of Silver Spring could go to BCC, but to bring kids to Whitman from Silver Spring or from Churchill to Crown or from Darnestown to Crown just doesn’t make sense.

So what are these people really seeking?

We are just pissed that these options leave some DCC schools still over crowded (Wheaton and Kennedy) but not the richer schools, that there is tons of split articulation forcing our kids to go to different middle schools than their friends but almost none for the richer schools, and that DCC FARMS rates get worse rather than better. And all of this is in every single option so basically it's like MCPS is saying "we won't even consider doing anything that the richer schools wouldn't like, the only choices are around which DCC families will get hurt more, fight amongst yourselves." (And this combined with the way they are taking the DCC away from us and hurting some of our schools with the program changes is just adding insult to injury.)

Wr don't want anything crazy, just a basic sense of fairness. But that is apparently too much to ask.

But you make no sense and talk out of both sides of your mouth. You look down on people who chose “wealthy schools” and say you would never want to buy there or send your kids to that environment but then right here you whine that your FARMS rate might go up. So which is it, you are cool with socioeconomic diversity or you’re only cool with it when it’s the exact amount you think is appropriate? You lament your kids possibly being sent to middle schools away from friends but you simultaneously love and want to keep your current DCC set up and have no problem when all those kids shuffle up and separate from friends in high school. You’re worried about overcrowding at 2 schools (Wheaton and Kennedy) that I don’t even think your child attends or will attend and to which you are not zoned. No one knows what you really want because all you actually say is harm the wealthier schools and not me.

That's a good point. It doesn't make sense for the DCC people to care about split articulation while arguing they want to....articulate to multiple high schools.

1) Going into the socially-brutal middle school years alongside a solid group of friends vs being separated from them is very different from going to different schools for high school.
2) With the DCC, kids can choose to stay together with friends at their base area school if that's their top priority, or pick a different school if what that other school offers is more important to them than going to school with pre-existing friends. It gives them choice. Split articulation for middle school forces kids apart and offers no choice. Totally different.

However when parents of kids at W schools don't want split articulation entering middle school we are racist a**holes who are only worried about our wealth. Got it.

So which is it? Is split articulation okay only for DCC kids because some older kids chose to attend a school other than their home school to access the same programs available at all the rich kids' home schools? Or is it bad for everyone? Or is your take that split articulation is only bad for your kids and those of your friends at similar schools and you dgaf about the East county because you don't know anyone there and an anonymous DCUM poster.hurt your feelings so you hate all our kids?

No, I don't want split articulation for anyone if they don't want it. Per the post I was responding to, I do think it's more important to maintain articulation through middle school (which was the point made by someone defending the DCC structure). Why must you continue to assume the absolute worst of an opinion that APPARENTLY MOST DCC PARENTS AGREE WITH. Again, why is it wrong for me to have the SAME OPINION because I live somewhere else?

You sound really sensitive about this topic. You literally paid a premium to live where you live because you think the kids where you live are better than the kids where I live and want your kid to be around the "better" kids. I have good friends that have made similar choices. They are lovely, kind people - probably the kindest I know. They didn't make these choices out of malice, but that doesn't mean racism doesn't play a role in their choices.

just as racism played a role in your choices of where to live. no one in the suburbs of DC can reasonably claim that racism didn't play a role in where they live.

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Anonymous wrote:I watched the video public testimony from the BOE meeting on Thursday. I’m a bit puzzled by some of the comments from people about equity. I absolutely want equity for others and am fortunate to live in a wealthier area, but those comments from people, what do they want? Are they asking for MCPS to bus them from BCC and Woodlin ES 30 minutes away to schools to mix wealthy families with those who aren’t? Are they wanting poorer kids to be bussed 30 mins to their schools?

I get it on the margins like Kensington could be mixed with Einstein, or parts of Silver Spring could go to BCC, but to bring kids to Whitman from Silver Spring or from Churchill to Crown or from Darnestown to Crown just doesn’t make sense.

So what are these people really seeking?

We are just pissed that these options leave some DCC schools still over crowded (Wheaton and Kennedy) but not the richer schools, that there is tons of split articulation forcing our kids to go to different middle schools than their friends but almost none for the richer schools, and that DCC FARMS rates get worse rather than better. And all of this is in every single option so basically it's like MCPS is saying "we won't even consider doing anything that the richer schools wouldn't like, the only choices are around which DCC families will get hurt more, fight amongst yourselves." (And this combined with the way they are taking the DCC away from us and hurting some of our schools with the program changes is just adding insult to injury.)

Wr don't want anything crazy, just a basic sense of fairness. But that is apparently too much to ask.

But you make no sense and talk out of both sides of your mouth. You look down on people who chose “wealthy schools” and say you would never want to buy there or send your kids to that environment but then right here you whine that your FARMS rate might go up. So which is it, you are cool with socioeconomic diversity or you’re only cool with it when it’s the exact amount you think is appropriate? You lament your kids possibly being sent to middle schools away from friends but you simultaneously love and want to keep your current DCC set up and have no problem when all those kids shuffle up and separate from friends in high school. You’re worried about overcrowding at 2 schools (Wheaton and Kennedy) that I don’t even think your child attends or will attend and to which you are not zoned. No one knows what you really want because all you actually say is harm the wealthier schools and not me.

That's a good point. It doesn't make sense for the DCC people to care about split articulation while arguing they want to....articulate to multiple high schools.

1) Going into the socially-brutal middle school years alongside a solid group of friends vs being separated from them is very different from going to different schools for high school.
2) With the DCC, kids can choose to stay together with friends at their base area school if that's their top priority, or pick a different school if what that other school offers is more important to them than going to school with pre-existing friends. It gives them choice. Split articulation for middle school forces kids apart and offers no choice. Totally different.

However when parents of kids at W schools don't want split articulation entering middle school we are racist a**holes who are only worried about our wealth. Got it.

So which is it? Is split articulation okay only for DCC kids because some older kids chose to attend a school other than their home school to access the same programs available at all the rich kids' home schools? Or is it bad for everyone? Or is your take that split articulation is only bad for your kids and those of your friends at similar schools and you dgaf about the East county because you don't know anyone there and an anonymous DCUM poster.hurt your feelings so you hate all our kids?

No, I don't want split articulation for anyone if they don't want it. Per the post I was responding to, I do think it's more important to maintain articulation through middle school (which was the point made by someone defending the DCC structure). Why must you continue to assume the absolute worst of an opinion that APPARENTLY MOST DCC PARENTS AGREE WITH. Again, why is it wrong for me to have the SAME OPINION because I live somewhere else?

You sound really sensitive about this topic. You literally paid a premium to live where you live because you think the kids where you live are better than the kids where I live and want your kid to be around the "better" kids. I have good friends that have made similar choices. They are lovely, kind people - probably the kindest I know. They didn't make these choices out of malice, but that doesn't mean racism doesn't play a role in their choices.

just as racism played a role in your choices of where to live. no one in the suburbs of DC can reasonably claim that racism didn't play a role in where they live.

Well yes but it is 2025 and MoCo has changed a lot demographically since the days of White flight. DCC schools are majority Black and Brown. If you look for houses that have sold under $600k in the DC region you will find much more in the suburbs, including eastern Montgomery County and Prince George's County, than you will in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:It is abundantly clear from the BOE questions/comments to the program analysis that they 100% will approve whatever Taylor recommends. That ship has sailed.

The question is will the county council give more funding or what will they cut to make it work. When voting, especially for the county council remember those switching from the BOE to County Council are not putting MCPS and students and staff first.

Very good point. Yang and Silvestre have no business on the county council if they vote to approve this.

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Anonymous wrote:It is abundantly clear from the BOE questions/comments to the program analysis that they 100% will approve whatever Taylor recommends. That ship has sailed.

The question is will the county council give more funding or what will they cut to make it work. When voting, especially for the county council remember those switching from the BOE to County Council are not putting MCPS and students and staff first.

Very good point. Yang and Silvestre have no business on the county council if they vote to approve this.

+100. I’m only going to vote them if they have the bone to reject the regional model

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Anonymous wrote:It is abundantly clear from the BOE questions/comments to the program analysis that they 100% will approve whatever Taylor recommends. That ship has sailed.

The question is will the county council give more funding or what will they cut to make it work. When voting, especially for the county council remember those switching from the BOE to County Council are not putting MCPS and students and staff first.

Very good point. Yang and Silvestre have no business on the county council if they vote to approve this.

+100. I’m only going to vote them if they have the bone to reject the regional model

Let’s flood their inboxes with that message!