School choice vs. attendance zones

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Anonymous wrote:OP is completely ignoring the fact that Thu’s already exists. If there is room in a school, you can always find a way to get your kid in there if you plan ahead.

Great. Then why do we still have attendance zones that are segregated by income?

DP. Easy question. Because not everybody is looking to selfishly screw over other people’s kids to get a little property value kick like you.

Dummies think that the county has somehow selected where people live rather than the free market doing its thing. Even if you were successful in watering down the good schools, people would continue to sort themselves, and you’d be back here a decade from now complaining about the same stuff. Really gross.

The government telling you where your child must go to school isn’t exactly free market. In fact, the county drawing attendance zones is actually manipulating the housing market.

You make the dumbest arguments. You should try to sue the county for conspiracy to keep you out of a good school pyramid. 🤣🤣🤣

Why should the government have the authority to create school pyramids based on what side of the street a student lives?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP is completely ignoring the fact that Thu’s already exists. If there is room in a school, you can always find a way to get your kid in there if you plan ahead.

Great. Then why do we still have attendance zones that are segregated by income?

DP. Easy question. Because not everybody is looking to selfishly screw over other people’s kids to get a little property value kick like you.

Dummies think that the county has somehow selected where people live rather than the free market doing its thing. Even if you were successful in watering down the good schools, people would continue to sort themselves, and you’d be back here a decade from now complaining about the same stuff. Really gross.

Let’s try to calm down, it’s not personal. Nobody is getting screwed, any student could apply to any school in the county. Just like you can go to any park in the county or visit any library.

The county draws arbitrary school lines that are the modern version of redlining. This is segregation based on income and other county services don’t operate this way.

When I started reading this thread, I was open to the argument. Now the SJWs are arguing that the county is segregating and redlining. Tells you all you need to know about the agenda.

The next thing you’re going to argue is that we need to pay reparations to anyone who attended a lower performing school.

TLDR, is that these aren’t serious arguments.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP is completely ignoring the fact that Thu’s already exists. If there is room in a school, you can always find a way to get your kid in there if you plan ahead.

Great. Then why do we still have attendance zones that are segregated by income?

DP. Easy question. Because not everybody is looking to selfishly screw over other people’s kids to get a little property value kick like you.

Dummies think that the county has somehow selected where people live rather than the free market doing its thing. Even if you were successful in watering down the good schools, people would continue to sort themselves, and you’d be back here a decade from now complaining about the same stuff. Really gross.

The government telling you where your child must go to school isn’t exactly free market. In fact, the county drawing attendance zones is actually manipulating the housing market.

You make the dumbest arguments. You should try to sue the county for conspiracy to keep you out of a good school pyramid. 🤣🤣🤣

Why should the government have the authority to create school pyramids based on what side of the street a student lives?

Because it’s the deep state and they’re doing it to keep you down. 🤣

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP is completely ignoring the fact that Thu’s already exists. If there is room in a school, you can always find a way to get your kid in there if you plan ahead.

Great. Then why do we still have attendance zones that are segregated by income?

DP. Easy question. Because not everybody is looking to selfishly screw over other people’s kids to get a little property value kick like you.

Dummies think that the county has somehow selected where people live rather than the free market doing its thing. Even if you were successful in watering down the good schools, people would continue to sort themselves, and you’d be back here a decade from now complaining about the same stuff. Really gross.

The government telling you where your child must go to school isn’t exactly free market. In fact, the county drawing attendance zones is actually manipulating the housing market.

You make the dumbest arguments. You should try to sue the county for conspiracy to keep you out of a good school pyramid. 🤣🤣🤣

Why should the government have the authority to create school pyramids based on what side of the street a student lives?

Because it’s the deep state and they’re doing it to keep you down. 🤣

I guess you don’t have a serious rebuttal. I’ll ask again, why should arbitrary attendance zones exist?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP is completely ignoring the fact that Thu’s already exists. If there is room in a school, you can always find a way to get your kid in there if you plan ahead.

Great. Then why do we still have attendance zones that are segregated by income?

DP. Easy question. Because not everybody is looking to selfishly screw over other people’s kids to get a little property value kick like you.

Dummies think that the county has somehow selected where people live rather than the free market doing its thing. Even if you were successful in watering down the good schools, people would continue to sort themselves, and you’d be back here a decade from now complaining about the same stuff. Really gross.

Let’s try to calm down, it’s not personal. Nobody is getting screwed, any student could apply to any school in the county. Just like you can go to any park in the county or visit any library.

The county draws arbitrary school lines that are the modern version of redlining. This is segregation based on income and other county services don’t operate this way.

When I started reading this thread, I was open to the argument. Now the SJWs are arguing that the county is segregating and redlining. Tells you all you need to know about the agenda.

The next thing you’re going to argue is that we need to pay reparations to anyone who attended a lower performing school.

TLDR, is that these aren’t serious arguments.

Hyperbole.

What’s your argument that attendance zones aren’t segregation based on income?

[Anonymous]

Most attendance zones have some degree of variability of income. Only one or two HS in FCPS don’t have a low income area within their boundaries.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP is completely ignoring the fact that Thu’s already exists. If there is room in a school, you can always find a way to get your kid in there if you plan ahead.

Great. Then why do we still have attendance zones that are segregated by income?

DP. Easy question. Because not everybody is looking to selfishly screw over other people’s kids to get a little property value kick like you.

Dummies think that the county has somehow selected where people live rather than the free market doing its thing. Even if you were successful in watering down the good schools, people would continue to sort themselves, and you’d be back here a decade from now complaining about the same stuff. Really gross.

Let’s try to calm down, it’s not personal. Nobody is getting screwed, any student could apply to any school in the county. Just like you can go to any park in the county or visit any library.

The county draws arbitrary school lines that are the modern version of redlining. This is segregation based on income and other county services don’t operate this way.

When I started reading this thread, I was open to the argument. Now the SJWs are arguing that the county is segregating and redlining. Tells you all you need to know about the agenda.

The next thing you’re going to argue is that we need to pay reparations to anyone who attended a lower performing school.

TLDR, is that these aren’t serious arguments.

Hyperbole.

What’s your argument that attendance zones aren’t segregation based on income?

You think that deep blue Fairfax redlines and segregates. That’s all anyone reading this thread needs to know about the merits of your argument.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:OP is completely ignoring the fact that Thu’s already exists. If there is room in a school, you can always find a way to get your kid in there if you plan ahead.

Great. Then why do we still have attendance zones that are segregated by income?

DP. Easy question. Because not everybody is looking to selfishly screw over other people’s kids to get a little property value kick like you.

Dummies think that the county has somehow selected where people live rather than the free market doing its thing. Even if you were successful in watering down the good schools, people would continue to sort themselves, and you’d be back here a decade from now complaining about the same stuff. Really gross.

Let’s try to calm down, it’s not personal. Nobody is getting screwed, any student could apply to any school in the county. Just like you can go to any park in the county or visit any library.

The county draws arbitrary school lines that are the modern version of redlining. This is segregation based on income and other county services don’t operate this way.

When I started reading this thread, I was open to the argument. Now the SJWs are arguing that the county is segregating and redlining. Tells you all you need to know about the agenda.

The next thing you’re going to argue is that we need to pay reparations to anyone who attended a lower performing school.

TLDR, is that these aren’t serious arguments.

Hyperbole.

What’s your argument that attendance zones aren’t segregation based on income?

You think that deep blue Fairfax redlines and segregates. That’s all anyone reading this thread needs to know about the merits of your argument.

Okay. Prove me wrong with actual facts and data.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most attendance zones have some degree of variability of income. Only one or two HS in FCPS don’t have a low income area within their boundaries.

Great. Then you would be comfortable for your kid to attend most FCPS schools, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is completely ignoring the fact that Thu’s already exists. If there is room in a school, you can always find a way to get your kid in there if you plan ahead.

Great. Then why do we still have attendance zones that are segregated by income?

DP. Easy question. Because not everybody is looking to selfishly screw over other people’s kids to get a little property value kick like you.

Dummies think that the county has somehow selected where people live rather than the free market doing its thing. Even if you were successful in watering down the good schools, people would continue to sort themselves, and you’d be back here a decade from now complaining about the same stuff. Really gross.

Let’s try to calm down, it’s not personal. Nobody is getting screwed, any student could apply to any school in the county. Just like you can go to any park in the county or visit any library.

The county draws arbitrary school lines that are the modern version of redlining. This is segregation based on income and other county services don’t operate this way.

When I started reading this thread, I was open to the argument. Now the SJWs are arguing that the county is segregating and redlining. Tells you all you need to know about the agenda.

The next thing you’re going to argue is that we need to pay reparations to anyone who attended a lower performing school.

TLDR, is that these aren’t serious arguments.

Hyperbole.

What’s your argument that attendance zones aren’t segregation based on income?

You think that deep blue Fairfax redlines and segregates. That’s all anyone reading this thread needs to know about the merits of your argument.

Okay. Prove me wrong with actual facts and data.

Here you go, clown.

https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/leadership/district-performance-transparency/title-i-program

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Dumb idea, OP.

You can look at Jefferson County, KY. When they instituted the type of system you want, following the court-ordered merger with Louisville schools, people left for privates and moved to Oldham County.

This isn’t about merging school systems. It’s about creating more choice within a school system. If a family isn’t admitted to the public school of their choice, they can go to private. Threatening to go private suggests wealthy families are currently hoarding certain public schools as if they’re private. In that case, go ahead and pay for private and leave the good publics for other families.

You are essentially asking for a merger of successful and less successful schools, the result of which will be to create uniformly mediocre schools.

And your analogy about hoarding schools as if they are private falls flat when the parents of the schools you covet cover most of the costs for all the public schools in the county.

You’ll find little if any support for what you’re proposing among county officials.

Paying taxes doesn’t make you entitled to a certain school. Try again

In Fairfax, it really should, absent a truly compelling need to change boundaries.

Sorry you have nothing better to do today.

But it doesn’t. Sorry the VA code isn’t on your side. Move to some tiny school district in New Jersey if you think that’s better.

Sounds like you’re the one who needs to move, because you aren’t going to get what you’re after here.

You can look at the “Opening of Schools” report and see how Reid touted FCPS having 7 of the top 10 high schools in the state. There’s no appetite for having 24 lousy ones.

Who’s to say school choice wouldn’t result in 10 of the top 10 schools in the state? I reject your premise.

Now you’re just entering sad attention whore territory.

I’m advocating for more kids to have opportunity. Try to refrain from insulting terms if you’re interested in a thoughtful discussion.

Volunteer to help with literacy and ESOL at your neighborhood low performing school.

Volunteer for PTA and help bring in after school STEM enrichment.

Get your neighborhood parents to volunteer.

Start a science Olympiad team at your school and pull in other educated parents to step up and run event teams.

All of these just require your time. Any poor or rich parent can do these things with a little bit of effort.

Stop trying to get other parents and other people's kids to do it for you. Step up and lead.

+100. It’s lazy parents who push for equity. They don’t actually want to do the legwork, they want the handout, which in this case, is another person’s kids.

Truly vile shit.

5% of WSHS students are ESL. 37.5% of Lewis High School students are ESL. Seems like this is beyond some helpful volunteers.

And never forget that a group of WSHS parents lobbied for this exact outcome the last time the lines were redrawn.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP is completely ignoring the fact that Thu’s already exists. If there is room in a school, you can always find a way to get your kid in there if you plan ahead.

Great. Then why do we still have attendance zones that are segregated by income?

DP. Easy question. Because not everybody is looking to selfishly screw over other people’s kids to get a little property value kick like you.

Dummies think that the county has somehow selected where people live rather than the free market doing its thing. Even if you were successful in watering down the good schools, people would continue to sort themselves, and you’d be back here a decade from now complaining about the same stuff. Really gross.

Let’s try to calm down, it’s not personal. Nobody is getting screwed, any student could apply to any school in the county. Just like you can go to any park in the county or visit any library.

The county draws arbitrary school lines that are the modern version of redlining. This is segregation based on income and other county services don’t operate this way.

When I started reading this thread, I was open to the argument. Now the SJWs are arguing that the county is segregating and redlining. Tells you all you need to know about the agenda.

The next thing you’re going to argue is that we need to pay reparations to anyone who attended a lower performing school.

TLDR, is that these aren’t serious arguments.

Hyperbole.

What’s your argument that attendance zones aren’t segregation based on income?

You think that deep blue Fairfax redlines and segregates. That’s all anyone reading this thread needs to know about the merits of your argument.

Okay. Prove me wrong with actual facts and data.

Here you go, clown.

https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/leadership/district-performance-transparency/title-i-program

Nope. Where is your proof that school boundaries are not correlated with household income? You have lots of PP’s suggesting schools impact their home values so do you disagree with them?

Try to make your argument without name-calling.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most attendance zones have some degree of variability of income. Only one or two HS in FCPS don’t have a low income area within their boundaries.

Great. Then you would be comfortable for your kid to attend most FCPS schools, right?

Yes, but prefer the one closest to my house that I’m zoned for and it’s not the Langley, Madison, Woodson types either. Just the regular one that my kids friends go to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most attendance zones have some degree of variability of income. Only one or two HS in FCPS don’t have a low income area within their boundaries.

Great. Then you would be comfortable for your kid to attend most FCPS schools, right?

Yes, but prefer the one closest to my house that I’m zoned for and it’s not the Langley, Madison, Woodson types either. Just the regular one that my kids friends go to.

That’s understandable. FCPs has a lot of schools so I’m sure with school choice you could still get a school close to your house.

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Anonymous wrote:OP is completely ignoring the fact that Thu’s already exists. If there is room in a school, you can always find a way to get your kid in there if you plan ahead.

Great. Then why do we still have attendance zones that are segregated by income?

DP. Easy question. Because not everybody is looking to selfishly screw over other people’s kids to get a little property value kick like you.

Dummies think that the county has somehow selected where people live rather than the free market doing its thing. Even if you were successful in watering down the good schools, people would continue to sort themselves, and you’d be back here a decade from now complaining about the same stuff. Really gross.

Let’s try to calm down, it’s not personal. Nobody is getting screwed, any student could apply to any school in the county. Just like you can go to any park in the county or visit any library.

The county draws arbitrary school lines that are the modern version of redlining. This is segregation based on income and other county services don’t operate this way.

When I started reading this thread, I was open to the argument. Now the SJWs are arguing that the county is segregating and redlining. Tells you all you need to know about the agenda.

The next thing you’re going to argue is that we need to pay reparations to anyone who attended a lower performing school.

TLDR, is that these aren’t serious arguments.

Hyperbole.

What’s your argument that attendance zones aren’t segregation based on income?

You think that deep blue Fairfax redlines and segregates. That’s all anyone reading this thread needs to know about the merits of your argument.

Okay. Prove me wrong with actual facts and data.

Here you go, clown.

https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/leadership/district-performance-transparency/title-i-program

Nope. Where is your proof that school boundaries are not correlated with household income? You have lots of PP’s suggesting schools impact their home values so do you disagree with them?

Try to make your argument without name-calling.

You said redlining and segregation. That’s very different than just school boundaries being correlated to income. You can try to change it up, but we can all scroll back to where you said deep blue Fairfax redlines and segregates. It’s one of the silliest arguments that I’ve read on this forum.

You need to go back to school and lessen correlation vs. causation. Especially when you are flippantly throwing around the terms that you are.