School choice vs. attendance zones

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not abolish attendance zones and allow families to apply to the schools they think are best for their kids within the county? If there are more apps than seats, choose by lottery. This should appeal to both conservatives and liberals. Conservatives love school choice and liberals love increased diversity in schools.

Why because school choice sucks it ruins public schools and I’m not paying to put your kid in a religious program to be indoctrinated

School vouchers is a perfectly good way to offer chouce.

What OP is describing is not school choice and is the surest path to ruining public education.

[Anonymous]

This is already effectively happening for Langley.

Any student can request to be placed there if they would like to take Russian. Or if they are at one of the nearby IB schools and would instead like to take AP.

I think the current system works. Parents that are deeply committed to their children's education can switch to Langley if their child is not admitted to TJ. Why break something that is already working?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not abolish attendance zones and allow families to apply to the schools they think are best for their kids within the county? If there are more apps than seats, choose by lottery. This should appeal to both conservatives and liberals. Conservatives love school choice and liberals love increased diversity in schools.

Nope.

We paid a ton of money for our specific high school zone, specifically because it is a neighborhood school with strong generational ties to the community, and a strong military community.

Your idea would take away that choice from us, the antithesis of school choice and vouchers.

Where in your housing contract were you guaranteed to attend the neighborhood school forever?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dumb idea, OP.

You can look at Jefferson County, KY. When they instituted the type of system you want, following the court-ordered merger with Louisville schools, people left for privates and moved to Oldham County.

This isn’t about merging school systems. It’s about creating more choice within a school system. If a family isn’t admitted to the public school of their choice, they can go to private. Threatening to go private suggests wealthy families are currently hoarding certain public schools as if they’re private. In that case, go ahead and pay for private and leave the good publics for other families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not abolish attendance zones and allow families to apply to the schools they think are best for their kids within the county? If there are more apps than seats, choose by lottery. This should appeal to both conservatives and liberals. Conservatives love school choice and liberals love increased diversity in schools.

Nope.

We paid a ton of money for our specific high school zone, specifically because it is a neighborhood school with strong generational ties to the community, and a strong military community.

Your idea would take away that choice from us, the antithesis of school choice and vouchers.

Where in your housing contract were you guaranteed to attend the neighborhood school forever?

Your vision would cause UMC to leave in droves, but you know that, as you frequently argue your inane talking point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dumb idea, OP.

You can look at Jefferson County, KY. When they instituted the type of system you want, following the court-ordered merger with Louisville schools, people left for privates and moved to Oldham County.

This isn’t about merging school systems. It’s about creating more choice within a school system. If a family isn’t admitted to the public school of their choice, they can go to private. Threatening to go private suggests wealthy families are currently hoarding certain public schools as if they’re private. In that case, go ahead and pay for private and leave the good publics for other families.

There aren’t “good publics” without good peer groups. The idea that one school is any better than another in FCPS because of any reason other than family wealth is ridiculous.

Every school has the same standard for teachers, the same state standards, the same school provided resources.

The difference is the peer groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not abolish attendance zones and allow families to apply to the schools they think are best for their kids within the county? If there are more apps than seats, choose by lottery. This should appeal to both conservatives and liberals. Conservatives love school choice and liberals love increased diversity in schools.

Nope.

We paid a ton of money for our specific high school zone, specifically because it is a neighborhood school with strong generational ties to the community, and a strong military community.

Your idea would take away that choice from us, the antithesis of school choice and vouchers.

Where in your housing contract were you guaranteed to attend the neighborhood school forever?

Your vision would cause UMC to leave in droves, but you know that, as you frequently argue your inane talking point.

Meh that’s doubtful. Some would move, some would go private. However, a lot don’t want to give up a low mortgage rate or move farther out and have a longer commute. Plus a more diverse socioeconomic Fairfax school could still be better than some other school systems. Stop with your fear mongering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dumb idea, OP.

You can look at Jefferson County, KY. When they instituted the type of system you want, following the court-ordered merger with Louisville schools, people left for privates and moved to Oldham County.

This isn’t about merging school systems. It’s about creating more choice within a school system. If a family isn’t admitted to the public school of their choice, they can go to private. Threatening to go private suggests wealthy families are currently hoarding certain public schools as if they’re private. In that case, go ahead and pay for private and leave the good publics for other families.

There aren’t “good publics” without good peer groups. The idea that one school is any better than another in FCPS because of any reason other than family wealth is ridiculous.

Every school has the same standard for teachers, the same state standards, the same school provided resources.

The difference is the peer groups.

Maybe that’s true. Losing some families wouldn’t significantly change anything. Most people would suck it up and be fine. The handful that are truly afraid of the poors would be welcome to go private or move.

[Anonymous]

This is giving Saratoga Mom sour grapes … lol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not abolish attendance zones and allow families to apply to the schools they think are best for their kids within the county? If there are more apps than seats, choose by lottery. This should appeal to both conservatives and liberals. Conservatives love school choice and liberals love increased diversity in schools.

Nope.

We paid a ton of money for our specific high school zone, specifically because it is a neighborhood school with strong generational ties to the community, and a strong military community.

Your idea would take away that choice from us, the antithesis of school choice and vouchers.

Where in your housing contract were you guaranteed to attend the neighborhood school forever?

Your vision would cause UMC to leave in droves, but you know that, as you frequently argue your inane talking point.

Meh that’s doubtful. Some would move, some would go private. However, a lot don’t want to give up a low mortgage rate or move farther out and have a longer commute. Plus a more diverse socioeconomic Fairfax school could still be better than some other school systems. Stop with your fear mongering.

You’re becoming predictable, as you’ve given that inane retort too. Unfortunately for you, there is no way to equalize the FCPS experience unless you drag down the good schools. UMC families are the backbone of a lot of the good in the school system.

It’s not fearmongering because it’s true. People won’t buy in the system if there is uncertainty in school pyramids. Existing UMC are already leaving the system at an unfortunate pace, and you and the school board thinking that you can just screw these families over without consequence shows how out of touch you are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dumb idea, OP.

You can look at Jefferson County, KY. When they instituted the type of system you want, following the court-ordered merger with Louisville schools, people left for privates and moved to Oldham County.

This isn’t about merging school systems. It’s about creating more choice within a school system. If a family isn’t admitted to the public school of their choice, they can go to private. Threatening to go private suggests wealthy families are currently hoarding certain public schools as if they’re private. In that case, go ahead and pay for private and leave the good publics for other families.

There aren’t “good publics” without good peer groups. The idea that one school is any better than another in FCPS because of any reason other than family wealth is ridiculous.

Every school has the same standard for teachers, the same state standards, the same school provided resources.

The difference is the peer groups.

Maybe that’s true. Losing some families wouldn’t significantly change anything. Most people would suck it up and be fine. The handful that are truly afraid of the poors would be welcome to go private or move.

Tell us you don’t care about your own kids’ education without telling us. 😂

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dumb idea, OP.

You can look at Jefferson County, KY. When they instituted the type of system you want, following the court-ordered merger with Louisville schools, people left for privates and moved to Oldham County.

This isn’t about merging school systems. It’s about creating more choice within a school system. If a family isn’t admitted to the public school of their choice, they can go to private. Threatening to go private suggests wealthy families are currently hoarding certain public schools as if they’re private. In that case, go ahead and pay for private and leave the good publics for other families.

You are essentially asking for a merger of successful and less successful schools, the result of which will be to create uniformly mediocre schools.

And your analogy about hoarding schools as if they are private falls flat when the parents of the schools you covet cover most of the costs for all the public schools in the county.

You’ll find little if any support for what you’re proposing among county officials.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dumb idea, OP.

You can look at Jefferson County, KY. When they instituted the type of system you want, following the court-ordered merger with Louisville schools, people left for privates and moved to Oldham County.

This isn’t about merging school systems. It’s about creating more choice within a school system. If a family isn’t admitted to the public school of their choice, they can go to private. Threatening to go private suggests wealthy families are currently hoarding certain public schools as if they’re private. In that case, go ahead and pay for private and leave the good publics for other families.

There aren’t “good publics” without good peer groups. The idea that one school is any better than another in FCPS because of any reason other than family wealth is ridiculous.

Every school has the same standard for teachers, the same state standards, the same school provided resources.

The difference is the peer groups.

Maybe that’s true. Losing some families wouldn’t significantly change anything. Most people would suck it up and be fine. The handful that are truly afraid of the poors would be welcome to go private or move.

Tell us you don’t care about your own kids’ education without telling us. 😂

This is the type of thread to be expected when some random Fed zoned to a low-performing school gets furloughed. He has to fill up his day somehow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dumb idea, OP.

You can look at Jefferson County, KY. When they instituted the type of system you want, following the court-ordered merger with Louisville schools, people left for privates and moved to Oldham County.

This isn’t about merging school systems. It’s about creating more choice within a school system. If a family isn’t admitted to the public school of their choice, they can go to private. Threatening to go private suggests wealthy families are currently hoarding certain public schools as if they’re private. In that case, go ahead and pay for private and leave the good publics for other families.

You are essentially asking for a merger of successful and less successful schools, the result of which will be to create uniformly mediocre schools.

And your analogy about hoarding schools as if they are private falls flat when the parents of the schools you covet cover most of the costs for all the public schools in the county.

You’ll find little if any support for what you’re proposing among county officials.

Paying taxes doesn’t make you entitled to a certain school. Try again

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not abolish attendance zones and allow families to apply to the schools they think are best for their kids within the county? If there are more apps than seats, choose by lottery. This should appeal to both conservatives and liberals. Conservatives love school choice and liberals love increased diversity in schools.

Nope.

We paid a ton of money for our specific high school zone, specifically because it is a neighborhood school with strong generational ties to the community, and a strong military community.

Your idea would take away that choice from us, the antithesis of school choice and vouchers.

Where in your housing contract were you guaranteed to attend the neighborhood school forever?

Your vision would cause UMC to leave in droves, but you know that, as you frequently argue your inane talking point.

Meh that’s doubtful. Some would move, some would go private. However, a lot don’t want to give up a low mortgage rate or move farther out and have a longer commute. Plus a more diverse socioeconomic Fairfax school could still be better than some other school systems. Stop with your fear mongering.

We’d be a lot better off if we spent more time figuring out what makes schools like Langley, McLean, Oakton, West Springfield, and Chantilly successful, and less time dreaming up new ways to tear them apart.