$100k fee for h1-b visas coming

[Anonymous]

Maybe cs grads from the US can now get a job. You wouldn't believe how many applications I get from Indian for my job posting. Literally 490 h1b to 10 Americans

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US tech sector workers are having a hard time getting hired. H1B should be solely based on actual shortages. Such a shortage does not actually exist in tech. There's a labor market disconnect driven by greedy execs looking to undercut American workers.

Trump's proposal of $100k per H1B would dramatically increase the cost but that would drive offshoring. That should be coupled with a surtax on companies doing offshoring scaled by headcount and wage differentials.

If tech bros don't like that then the system should have a provision where they can get exemptions by demonstrating parity in wages, training and outcomes between domestic workers and foreign workers.

It's honestly sad that nobody in charge seems to have the wherewithal or attention span to actually understand the landscape and come up with reasonable proposals.

My experience is that H1B people who are currently in country are treated the same as US citizen applicants. So if they apply to a new company, they will be interviewed alongside other qualified applicants who are US citizens. They don't interview citizens, find no one qualified, and then look for H1B. That said, if the hiring manager selects an H1B, then HR sets the salary lower than other employees. It's still competitive, a cyber security SWE will still make 300k+ if they are H1B but they will get less than a US citizen.

I think it makes sense to discourage this practice and have the citizens be interviewed and then go to H1B. But realistically, most tech companies already have workarounds by having offices in Canada, which are heavily Indian visa workers. So I think that this might just result in more jobs being opened in Canada vs the US.

The workaround should be dealt with:

That should be coupled with a surtax on companies doing offshoring scaled by headcount and wage differentials.

And tech employers should be required to be a lot more transparent in their hiring. A lot of qualified people are applying to company job postings, only to be completely ghosted. That's disrespectful to applicants and makes them waste their time when they could be applying to other companies that are more earnest in their hiring.

Maybe we need a system where there's a central system that tracks every job posting and application with a unique ID and if the applicant is not selected, the employer is required to specify why - and that in turn feeds into H1b visas. Then the hiring can be audited. A company won't be able to as easily get away with "we tried hiring domestically but nobody applied / nobody was qualified"

[Anonymous]

I hear the same garbage that companies can't find people. Why does my friend's IT job posting get 200 applicants in a day?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe cs grads from the US can now get a job. You wouldn't believe how many applications I get from Indian for my job posting. Literally 490 h1b to 10 Americans

Why do you think that might happen? I think it's more likely that Google, Microsoft, xAI, etc all have a dinner with Trump where they present piles of gold and then suddenly have software engineers and developers exempt from the $100k fee. All the other less common jobs for h1bs might have to pay $100k but MAGA isn't going to give up the tech sector, sorry. Not even for your children trying to get cs degrees.

[Anonymous]

I work in the tech industry, for a company that has laid off 1000+ American workers and hired 1000+ H-1B workers over the past 2 years. Those 1000+ American workers were first required to train their H-1B replacements.

My direct supervisor is on an H-1B. I have a hard time believing that my company could not find an American engineering manager and were forced to look outside the country.

The H-1B program is irrevocably broken, so drastic measures must be taken.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of hot air as usual to rile up the base. The tech bros will bribe Trump and this will become yesterday’s old news.

You know who probably won’t be able to bribe him? Hospitals. Oh well.

[Anonymous]

It’s not good that we are importing all of these people whose values aren’t aligned with ours. It really does change the fabric of our country. People who perpetuate their caste system and are hostile towards gays and lesbians, and don’t even like dogs, don’t participate in or understand our culture, don’t really make the best neighbors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe cs grads from the US can now get a job. You wouldn't believe how many applications I get from Indian for my job posting. Literally 490 h1b to 10 Americans

Why do you think that might happen? I think it's more likely that Google, Microsoft, xAI, etc all have a dinner with Trump where they present piles of gold and then suddenly have software engineers and developers exempt from the $100k fee. All the other less common jobs for h1bs might have to pay $100k but MAGA isn't going to give up the tech sector, sorry. Not even for your children trying to get cs degrees.

This is the reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US tech sector workers are having a hard time getting hired. H1B should be solely based on actual shortages. Such a shortage does not actually exist in tech. There's a labor market disconnect driven by greedy execs looking to undercut American workers.

Trump's proposal of $100k per H1B would dramatically increase the cost but that would drive offshoring. That should be coupled with a surtax on companies doing offshoring scaled by headcount and wage differentials.

If tech bros don't like that then the system should have a provision where they can get exemptions by demonstrating parity in wages, training and outcomes between domestic workers and foreign workers.

It's honestly sad that nobody in charge seems to have the wherewithal or attention span to actually understand the landscape and come up with reasonable proposals.

My experience is that H1B people who are currently in country are treated the same as US citizen applicants. So if they apply to a new company, they will be interviewed alongside other qualified applicants who are US citizens. They don't interview citizens, find no one qualified, and then look for H1B. That said, if the hiring manager selects an H1B, then HR sets the salary lower than other employees. It's still competitive, a cyber security SWE will still make 300k+ if they are H1B but they will get less than a US citizen.

I think it makes sense to discourage this practice and have the citizens be interviewed and then go to H1B. But realistically, most tech companies already have workarounds by having offices in Canada, which are heavily Indian visa workers. So I think that this might just result in more jobs being opened in Canada vs the US.

The workaround should be dealt with:

That should be coupled with a surtax on companies doing offshoring scaled by headcount and wage differentials.

And tech employers should be required to be a lot more transparent in their hiring. A lot of qualified people are applying to company job postings, only to be completely ghosted. That's disrespectful to applicants and makes them waste their time when they could be applying to other companies that are more earnest in their hiring.

Maybe we need a system where there's a central system that tracks every job posting and application with a unique ID and if the applicant is not selected, the employer is required to specify why - and that in turn feeds into H1b visas. Then the hiring can be audited. A company won't be able to as easily get away with "we tried hiring domestically but nobody applied / nobody was qualified"

Correct the scam is that you leave the job open and reject a bunch of Americans so then you can document the oh we can't find anyone

[Anonymous]

A lot of companies hide the ads from Americans.

[Anonymous]

I feel bad for all the current workers caught up in this. Reportedly what Microsoft sent their employees:

September 19, 2025

This information was shared by Microsoft as of 5:30pm today.

Hi all--We have now reviewed the actual text of today's Presidential Proclamation on H-1B visas, which you can find here: Restriction on Entry of Certain Nonimmigrant Workers – The White House.

Here's what you need to know:

First, the proclamation is structured as a travel restriction. Beginning at 12:01 am eastern time on September 21, 2025 (so, 9:01 pm Pacific time tomorrow), individuals will not be able to enter/return to the U.S. in H-1B status unless their petition has an additional $100,000 payment associated with it.

What you need to do:

• If you are in H-1B status and are in the U.S., you should remain in the U.S. for the foreseeable future. We know this may interrupt your travel plans. But the critical thing is to stay in the U.S. in order to avoid being denied reentry.
• While the proclamation doesn't reference H-4 dependents, we also recommend that H-4s remain in the U.S.
• If you are in H-1B or H-4 status and are currently outside the U.S., we strongly recommend that you do what you can to return to the U.S. tomorrow before the deadline. The Proclamation was released within the last 30 minutes, so we realize that there isn't much time to make sudden travel arrangements. But again, we strongly encourage you to do your best to return.

[Anonymous]

Facebook “couldn’t find qualified Americans” — so they hid jobs from their careers site, refused to consider U.S. workers, and made applicants mail resumes by postal mail, DOJ says.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/19/facebook-settles-claims-it-discriminated-against-us-workers-for-jobs.html




Apple “couldn’t find qualified Americans” — so they hid jobs from their careers site, refused to consider U.S. workers, and made applicants mail resumes by postal mail. Paid a fine and settled with the DOJ.

https://fortune.com/2023/11/09/apple-settles-discriminated-case-us-foreign-workers/




Disney “couldn’t find qualified Americans” — so they fired their current employees, but not before having them train their foreign replacements in exchange for severance pay.

https://archive.is/NXj1Q

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for all the current workers caught up in this. Reportedly what Microsoft sent their employees:

September 19, 2025

This information was shared by Microsoft as of 5:30pm today.

Hi all--We have now reviewed the actual text of today's Presidential Proclamation on H-1B visas, which you can find here: Restriction on Entry of Certain Nonimmigrant Workers – The White House.

Here's what you need to know:

First, the proclamation is structured as a travel restriction. Beginning at 12:01 am eastern time on September 21, 2025 (so, 9:01 pm Pacific time tomorrow), individuals will not be able to enter/return to the U.S. in H-1B status unless their petition has an additional $100,000 payment associated with it.

What you need to do:

• If you are in H-1B status and are in the U.S., you should remain in the U.S. for the foreseeable future. We know this may interrupt your travel plans. But the critical thing is to stay in the U.S. in order to avoid being denied reentry.
• While the proclamation doesn't reference H-4 dependents, we also recommend that H-4s remain in the U.S.
• If you are in H-1B or H-4 status and are currently outside the U.S., we strongly recommend that you do what you can to return to the U.S. tomorrow before the deadline. The Proclamation was released within the last 30 minutes, so we realize that there isn't much time to make sudden travel arrangements. But again, we strongly encourage you to do your best to return.

Do you feel bad for American college grads who did everything they were supposed to and couldn't get a job because a company thought it was cheaper to import labor? And now those grads can’t pay off student loans, buy homes, and start families of their own?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You thought health care was bad already? Gone, 10,000 doctors. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5815043/

26% of doctors practicing in the United States are foreign-born. Why don’t US medical schools open up more spots so that more Americans can become doctors?

To preserve wages. That's quite literally the reason

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Will any MAGA care to answer why Trump hires foreign workers at Maralago instead of Americans?

It's cheaper

If it's cheaper why pay more? If it's cheaper for your competitors why pay more?what is best for Americans?