$100k fee for h1-b visas coming

Anonymous
A lot of hot air as usual to rile up the base. The tech bros will bribe Trump and this will become yesterday’s old news.
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Anonymous wrote:You thought health care was bad already? Gone, 10,000 doctors. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5815043/


the problem is lack of residency programs.

every year 10,000 US citizens, trained to be doctors but unable to find residency programs given to foreign H1Bs.

sorry, I would rather support my fellow citizens instead of supporting India.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12256077/


I am a doctor. The residency slots that go to H1B foreign medical grads are those that no US trained doctor will take. Programs would much rather take a US trained doctor than sponsor a visa, which is a hassle. It’s going to hurt the rural areas where no one wants to practice the most.

How does a doctor not know that residency programs are done on a J visa?
Anonymous
US tech sector workers are having a hard time getting hired. H1B should be solely based on actual shortages. Such a shortage does not actually exist in tech. There's a labor market disconnect driven by greedy execs looking to undercut American workers.

Trump's proposal of $100k per H1B would dramatically increase the cost but that would drive offshoring. That should be coupled with a surtax on companies doing offshoring scaled by headcount and wage differentials.

If tech bros don't like that then the system should have a provision where they can get exemptions by demonstrating parity in wages, training and outcomes between domestic workers and foreign workers.

It's honestly sad that nobody in charge seems to have the wherewithal or attention span to actually understand the landscape and come up with reasonable proposals.

Anonymous
This is excellent news, indeed. I am sorry that many of you have Trump derangement syndrome and are unable to see when he implements some good policy. This is as good as it gets. (others of his are...... )

The abuse of the H1B visa program is rampant; some people can barely read pay someone to "offer them a job" because they contacted an H1B broker who runs a scam and operates from a virtual business, and petitions for people who pay him some money.
And when you tell DHS to go inspect the site because they revoked 30 petitions from that company, as there is no company, they throw a temper tantrum and say there is no need, all is good, and approve the visa!
Now onto the O visas, another abused visa.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Best news of the day. Invest, educate,and train Americans.


I would like to share my personal experience.   I have been developing software since 1982.

In 1980s and 1990s software development was a great career. I was trained in fortran. I was a business major but a company took a chance on me and trained me to do software development.

In 1990's I hired many folks with 2 year associate degrees and trained them to be developers.  I hired African Americans and Hispanics from Strayer university. Folks that did not have parents to drive their middle school and high school studies. That is unheard of today.  Training budgets have been mostly eliminated for software developers.  and the reason is simple, supply and demand.

the 1990 Bush Immigration bill for H1B and the executive order in 2007 for OPT unleashed a huge migration of cheap temporary "guest" workers. There became a huge supply of cheap disposable workers, and companies took advantage of that.

stop the overwhelming supply and the market will adjust.

call your senators and congressman. repeal or pause the H1B and OPT visas. There is no worker shortage. this is government manipulation of the labor market to benefit big companies on the backs of US workers. 

stop falling for republican propaganda.


Some corrections, PP.

1) The Optional Practical Training (OPT) program, which allows F-1 students to work in the United States in their field of study, was first created in 1992 by the Department of Justice. This program stemmed from a provision in the 1990 Immigration Act, which established a trial employment program for foreign students.

2) Not sure what 2007 EO you are referring to but in 2008 DHS, through a regulatory change and not an executive order, announced a significant reform to the OPT program whereby a STEM extension was introduced: The regulation created a 17-month extension for OPT for eligible F-1 students who had earned a STEM degree. This increased the total possible OPT period for these students from 12 to 29 months. This may be what you're referring to.

At any rate, it's notable that two Republicans were in office when both these things happened. Bush the father signed into law the 1990 immigration bill that created the H1b program. And Bush the son was president in 2008 when the STEM extension was introduced.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is excellent news, indeed. I am sorry that many of you have Trump derangement syndrome and are unable to see when he implements some good policy. This is as good as it gets. (others of his are...... )

The abuse of the H1B visa program is rampant; some people can barely read pay someone to "offer them a job" because they contacted an H1B broker who runs a scam and operates from a virtual business, and petitions for people who pay him some money.
And when you tell DHS to go inspect the site because they revoked 30 petitions from that company, as there is no company, they throw a temper tantrum and say there is no need, all is good, and approve the visa!
Now onto the O visas, another abused visa.


Well, since Republican presidents were in charge when the H1B program was signed into law and the later extended OPT for STEM majors on student visas was adopted, it is fitting that a Republican president should address any problems the programs have created.
Anonymous
You all who have zero experience hiring H1B visa folks into corporations should not be posting anything. There is what you think happens and what really happens.

This is not good news in general. Most companies hire for talent. They try not to hire people who suck. It's more money spent to hire those who do not work out than to front end hire more expensively. It's the time and effort not just the money involved in talent acquisitions.

There's a lot of talented H1B folks who will lose and with them, our entire country.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Best news of the day. Invest, educate,and train Americans.


I would like to share my personal experience.   I have been developing software since 1982.

In 1980s and 1990s software development was a great career. I was trained in fortran. I was a business major but a company took a chance on me and trained me to do software development.

In 1990's I hired many folks with 2 year associate degrees and trained them to be developers.  I hired African Americans and Hispanics from Strayer university. Folks that did not have parents to drive their middle school and high school studies. That is unheard of today.  Training budgets have been mostly eliminated for software developers.  and the reason is simple, supply and demand.

the 1990 Bush Immigration bill for H1B and the executive order in 2007 for OPT unleashed a huge migration of cheap temporary "guest" workers. There became a huge supply of cheap disposable workers, and companies took advantage of that.

stop the overwhelming supply and the market will adjust.

call your senators and congressman. repeal or pause the H1B and OPT visas. There is no worker shortage. this is government manipulation of the labor market to benefit big companies on the backs of US workers. 

stop falling for republican propaganda.


I remember the days when we were sent away for training and people were retrained. That started drying up in the late 90s.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You all who have zero experience hiring H1B visa folks into corporations should not be posting anything. There is what you think happens and what really happens.

This is not good news in general. Most companies hire for talent. They try not to hire people who suck. It's more money spent to hire those who do not work out than to front end hire more expensively. It's the time and effort not just the money involved in talent acquisitions.

There's a lot of talented H1B folks who will lose and with them, our entire country.


Hmmmm, you really ran your mouth off here, did you? Who says some of us have zero experience? Some of us have so much experience that you need to sit down on the floor right now and shut up.
There are some talented people, yes, Indian companies, however, are bringing H1Bs because they pay them less. And there are thousands of fake companies filing petitions for scammers.
Anonymous
If Trump wants to MAGA he should tell white boys it’s patriotic to learn math.

The restriction is you have to be a college graduate, yet Trump isn’t making college more affordable and he’s attacking them.

It’s a total screw over of MAGA white boys. These companies will pay a $100,000 hiring bonus and call it a day. Oh well.
Anonymous
What’s to stop Trump from taking the $100,000 per visa and then arresting and deporting these visa holders? Who are they going to complain to?

Look at the Hyundai raid.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-h1b-visa-bill-100000-fee/

Do you think this will boost jobs?

No, just more offshoring.

I've worked in the tech industry since 1998. More and more jobs are going offshore. This will just push even more.

Companies are willing to accept 60% efficiency and accuracy for 30% of the pay.


It's more like 30% efficiency and accuracy. I have worked with teams of offshored resources, and (hoping this is an outlier) but none of them knows how to do anything beyond the basic, they all have to help each other and kind of secretly train up the really behind ones. I always wonder if the folks that have an inkling of a clue get really irritated at their weak coworkers and ever just want to let them sink? I wonder why they don't?


Depends on the provider but 60/30 is about right. If you are getting only 30% efficiency then you need a different provider…and there are many.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:US tech sector workers are having a hard time getting hired. H1B should be solely based on actual shortages. Such a shortage does not actually exist in tech. There's a labor market disconnect driven by greedy execs looking to undercut American workers.

Trump's proposal of $100k per H1B would dramatically increase the cost but that would drive offshoring. That should be coupled with a surtax on companies doing offshoring scaled by headcount and wage differentials.

If tech bros don't like that then the system should have a provision where they can get exemptions by demonstrating parity in wages, training and outcomes between domestic workers and foreign workers.

It's honestly sad that nobody in charge seems to have the wherewithal or attention span to actually understand the landscape and come up with reasonable proposals.



My experience is that H1B people who are currently in country are treated the same as US citizen applicants. So if they apply to a new company, they will be interviewed alongside other qualified applicants who are US citizens. They don't interview citizens, find no one qualified, and then look for H1B. That said, if the hiring manager selects an H1B, then HR sets the salary lower than other employees. It's still competitive, a cyber security SWE will still make 300k+ if they are H1B but they will get less than a US citizen.

I think it makes sense to discourage this practice and have the citizens be interviewed and then go to H1B. But realistically, most tech companies already have workarounds by having offices in Canada, which are heavily Indian visa workers. So I think that this might just result in more jobs being opened in Canada vs the US.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Why don't you supporters care about the impact this will have on American achievement, on innovation, on talent?

Why do you all think that America is a leader in anything?? We have been able to attract top global talent for years! We *used to* want to be leaders in every industry?

You all are happy to give away the competitive edge everywhere?

Make it make sense.


hmm, H1B was created in 1990.

tell me how US created Silicon Valley and excelled in high tech in the 60's and 70's and 80's without cheap disposable temporary workers?

are you really that naive or are you a Big tech bot?


You are the one who has a totally naive and simplistic view. The tech ecosystem today is totally different from the Silicon Valley of the 60s, 70s, and 80s. You think changing one thing is going to bring everything back to the way it was? There are so many factors I don't even know where to start. ... But for starters, the major universities like Stanford and MIT were key players back then and with the Trump administration $hitting all over higher education, how is this going to work.


you are advocating for a program that Big Tech uses to replace US citizens with cheap foreign labor.

What do you think of Microsoft laying off US workers and replacing them with temporary H1B visa workers?

Microsoft recently laid off approximately 9,000 employees, representing around 4% of its workforce, as part of broader restructuring efforts this year, a total of more than 15,000 positions have been cut in 2025.

These cuts coincided with a surge in H1B visa petitions. The company filed thousands of applications in the months leading up to the layoffs, reportedly totaling 4,776 labor condition applications between September and March 2025, indicating up to 14,181 positions supported via H1B contracts.

Obviously Microsoft shareholders benefit from reduced labor costs and workers that will put up with more mistreatment by their employer. Is it good for the US to have more people earning less money and more unemployed competing for the same amount of resources?


Again with the ridiculously simplistic analysis.

There are so many reasons Microsoft has laid off workers: post-pandemic correction of tech companies everywhere; the super shitty economic outlook; and especially >>> the move to AI!


NP. Then why did Microsoft and Meta seek new H1B employees for similar jobs of recently terminated employees?
Anonymous
The executive order allows exceptions to the fee for entire industries. Guess what the AI industry needs? Software developers. Who is going to bribe Trump for an exception? The tech sector. All the other industries are going to be paying 6 figures for foreign talent in addition to salary.
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