GA1 vs ECNL RL

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Anonymous wrote:When I hear about what families do for their child players it blows my mind. Driving from Rockville to Arlington is nothing. Some FLY to practice. Or move to high altitude. Quit jobs and school to home-school. And this kind of thing is usually decided by age 10. It’s really amazing.

I've never heard of "flying to practice. " I have heard of kids who play on a team states away who train on their own then the whole team gets together once a month to practice together.

I have witnessed 2 examples to support the above statement.
1.) We know one family who decide to homeschool in order to train soccer in the morning. Then they guest play with top teams around the country in top tournaments. This is starting at age 8.

2.) And one family decide to relocate to for the sole purpose of getting their kids to play on some of the top California ECNL teams.

Which, to be honest, is no different that Lindsay Vaughn's family deciding to move to Vail when she was 10. But yeah, obviously the parents want it a sh$t-ton more than the kids to do stuff like that.

Wow. What value are they getting out of this craziness? I would do it if I have a crystal ball telling me one day DD will become a pro getting paid like Men soccer in Europe or Saudi League and will get a percentage from these clubs like Real Madrid, City and go retire in a private island. Otherwise, I drive my kid in the DMV area clubs and focus on academics.

It’s not about value. It’s about trying to win the celebrity lottery. There are a handful of success stories but for every Lindsay Vaughn and Taylor Swift who moved to Nashville, there are way more kids who didn’t make it, sacrificed school, friends, went into huge debt, and are much worse off because their parents were unrealistic about their own kid and plenty of people are willing to cash in on them.

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Anonymous wrote:When I hear about what families do for their child players it blows my mind. Driving from Rockville to Arlington is nothing. Some FLY to practice. Or move to high altitude. Quit jobs and school to home-school. And this kind of thing is usually decided by age 10. It’s really amazing.

I've never heard of "flying to practice. " I have heard of kids who play on a team states away who train on their own then the whole team gets together once a month to practice together.

I have witnessed 2 examples to support the above statement.
1.) We know one family who decide to homeschool in order to train soccer in the morning. Then they guest play with top teams around the country in top tournaments. This is starting at age 8.

2.) And one family decide to relocate to for the sole purpose of getting their kids to play on some of the top California ECNL teams.

Which, to be honest, is no different that Lindsay Vaughn's family deciding to move to Vail when she was 10. But yeah, obviously the parents want it a sh$t-ton more than the kids to do stuff like that.

Wow. What value are they getting out of this craziness? I would do it if I have a crystal ball telling me one day DD will become a pro getting paid like Men soccer in Europe or Saudi League and will get a percentage from these clubs like Real Madrid, City and go retire in a private island. Otherwise, I drive my kid in the DMV area clubs and focus on academics.

It’s not about value. It’s about trying to win the celebrity lottery. There are a handful of success stories but for every Lindsay Vaughn and Taylor Swift who moved to Nashville, there are way more kids who didn’t make it, sacrificed school, friends, went into huge debt, and are much worse off because their parents were unrealistic about their own kid and plenty of people are willing to cash in on them.

That is why Messi and Mo Salah or any super star nowadays insist on academics when they meet school kids. These guys know too
Well they won a lottery ticket and they don’t want any kid to think they will become Mo Salah or Messi just like that. It is lottery. 1 can make it but another million kids who played with that star never made it.

The other big risk is the ACL you can be the next Ansu Fati. When Messi left, Barcelona gave him the number 10 shirt and said this will be the next Messi. The kid was flying until few months later the ACL hit him. Today they are looking to offload him and no team in Europe wants him. So, parents, even if your kid is a Messi, Acadmics should come first.

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Anonymous wrote:When I hear about what families do for their child players it blows my mind. Driving from Rockville to Arlington is nothing. Some FLY to practice. Or move to high altitude. Quit jobs and school to home-school. And this kind of thing is usually decided by age 10. It’s really amazing.

I've never heard of "flying to practice. " I have heard of kids who play on a team states away who train on their own then the whole team gets together once a month to practice together.

I have witnessed 2 examples to support the above statement.
1.) We know one family who decide to homeschool in order to train soccer in the morning. Then they guest play with top teams around the country in top tournaments. This is starting at age 8.

2.) And one family decide to relocate to for the sole purpose of getting their kids to play on some of the top California ECNL teams.

Which, to be honest, is no different that Lindsay Vaughn's family deciding to move to Vail when she was 10. But yeah, obviously the parents want it a sh$t-ton more than the kids to do stuff like that.

Wow. What value are they getting out of this craziness? I would do it if I have a crystal ball telling me one day DD will become a pro getting paid like Men soccer in Europe or Saudi League and will get a percentage from these clubs like Real Madrid, City and go retire in a private island. Otherwise, I drive my kid in the DMV area clubs and focus on academics.

You're an idiot. You just described the dream outcome for what ends up being like 1% of male players currently. Great false representation for an argument nobody is trying to have. All people are saying is that girls need a pathway thats not only to college. How they choose to explore those options is their business. Skidmore is waiting for you bud so no worries.

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Anonymous wrote:When I hear about what families do for their child players it blows my mind. Driving from Rockville to Arlington is nothing. Some FLY to practice. Or move to high altitude. Quit jobs and school to home-school. And this kind of thing is usually decided by age 10. It’s really amazing.

I've never heard of "flying to practice. " I have heard of kids who play on a team states away who train on their own then the whole team gets together once a month to practice together.

I have witnessed 2 examples to support the above statement.
1.) We know one family who decide to homeschool in order to train soccer in the morning. Then they guest play with top teams around the country in top tournaments. This is starting at age 8.

2.) And one family decide to relocate to for the sole purpose of getting their kids to play on some of the top California ECNL teams.

Which, to be honest, is no different that Lindsay Vaughn's family deciding to move to Vail when she was 10. But yeah, obviously the parents want it a sh$t-ton more than the kids to do stuff like that.

Wow. What value are they getting out of this craziness? I would do it if I have a crystal ball telling me one day DD will become a pro getting paid like Men soccer in Europe or Saudi League and will get a percentage from these clubs like Real Madrid, City and go retire in a private island. Otherwise, I drive my kid in the DMV area clubs and focus on academics.

You're an idiot. You just described the dream outcome for what ends up being like 1% of male players currently. Great false representation for an argument nobody is trying to have. All people are saying is that girls need a pathway thats not only to college. How they choose to explore those options is their business. Skidmore is waiting for you bud so no worries.

To be fair, Skidmore College is an excellent school and most people would get a very good to excellent education there. Depending on your field of study and what job you are attempting to get, employers aren't going to immediately dismiss your résumé because you graduated from Skidmore.

Without explaining why you called PP an idiot and told him/her/them why 'Skidmore is waiting for you..." it makes you seem rather uninformed and more the "idiot," if I were one to use such disrespectful terms with people I do not know.

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You're an idiot to then if you don't see the ignorance of the PP. I know plenty enough to already know my kid would be admissable to Skidmore without soccer so it was meant as a dig and a sign that maybe I know what Skidmore actually is an an institution. Nice try!

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Anonymous wrote:You're an idiot to then if you don't see the ignorance of the PP. I know plenty enough to already know my kid would be admissable to Skidmore without soccer so it was meant as a dig and a sign that maybe I know what Skidmore actually is an an institution. Nice try!

Of course, they are admissible. Everyone's child is smart, beautiful, rich and a star here. Go have your third donut while your wife waits for you to leave for work so her "friend" can come over.

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glutard over here so your wife's pie will have to do

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[quote=Anonymous]glutard over here so your wife's pie will have to do

Mhm, leas than ideal genetics. No matter. I am sure you have plenty of other things you stuff in your mouth that don't disagree with you.

No doubt there are likely other shortcomings you are having to make up for as well. Hence, you calling people "idiots" and attempting to mock people you don't know for just giving their opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:[quote=Anonymous]glutard over here so your wife's pie will have to do

Mhm, leas than ideal genetics. No matter. I am sure you have plenty of other things you stuff in your mouth that don't disagree with you.

No doubt there are likely other shortcomings you are having to make up for as well. Hence, you calling people "idiots" and attempting to mock people you don't know for just giving their opinion.





Yes, this post was necessary. MMMMmmmm peach cobbler

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Anonymous wrote:Stop comparing GA to ECRL. Whoever created the topic is clearly misinformed.

I’m with you, but I think the rapid growth of GA teams in the area is going to leave some of those teams (especially TSJFC and Alex) more like a RL team than a GA team. I’m a GA fan, but I would have preferred my DD play for a couple of local RL teams this season than for TSJFC. They were just that bad.

GA teams are clubs 1st team

ECRL teams are clubs 2nd team

It's this simple. ECNL parents are trying their best to equate GA with ECRL to elevate themselves. People aren't buying it. ECNL parents are getting desperate.

In this region right now you need to buy it. Maybe over time GA separates from ECRL but it wont be this fall. The player pool in the area is the player pool. Just because there are five brand spanking new GA teams does not mean they all have access to a new set of players. VRSC and SYC GA teams today aren't better than the top RL teams like Strikers, Arlington, and VA United, and they won't be tomorrow either. CISC because of timing of their tryouts before the announced GA is bringing ECNL teams pretty much intact to GA. NVA maybe in some age groups will have teams of mostly former ECNL players. Making CISC and NVA likely top of table. The rest, Loudoun, Alexandria, McLean are pulling from the RL player pool to fill out their new GA teams.

Agree there are ECRL teams that can beat some GA teams. There are also ECRL teams that can beat some ECNL teams. But the GA league is generally a more competitive league than ECRL.

The only people who don’t think GA is better than ECRL are RL club coaches and directors who are worried about losing their top players. No one is leaving GA to go to an RL team.

Yes in theory and in most of the country, but in the short term where are these five new GA teams filling their rosters from? They are not coming from ECNL teams, so for most of these new teams, in the short term, they are filling their rosters with ECRL level talent. Heck, today TSJ is a lost cause, and SYC and VRSC GA teams are maybe on par with top ECRL teams.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop comparing GA to ECRL. Whoever created the topic is clearly misinformed.

I’m with you, but I think the rapid growth of GA teams in the area is going to leave some of those teams (especially TSJFC and Alex) more like a RL team than a GA team. I’m a GA fan, but I would have preferred my DD play for a couple of local RL teams this season than for TSJFC. They were just that bad.

GA teams are clubs 1st team

ECRL teams are clubs 2nd team

It's this simple. ECNL parents are trying their best to equate GA with ECRL to elevate themselves. People aren't buying it. ECNL parents are getting desperate.

In this region right now you need to buy it. Maybe over time GA separates from ECRL but it wont be this fall. The player pool in the area is the player pool. Just because there are five brand spanking new GA teams does not mean they all have access to a new set of players. VRSC and SYC GA teams today aren't better than the top RL teams like Strikers, Arlington, and VA United, and they won't be tomorrow either. CISC because of timing of their tryouts before the announced GA is bringing ECNL teams pretty much intact to GA. NVA maybe in some age groups will have teams of mostly former ECNL players. Making CISC and NVA likely top of table. The rest, Loudoun, Alexandria, McLean are pulling from the RL player pool to fill out their new GA teams.

Agree there are ECRL teams that can beat some GA teams. There are also ECRL teams that can beat some ECNL teams. But the GA league is generally a more competitive league than ECRL.

The only people who don’t think GA is better than ECRL are RL club coaches and directors who are worried about losing their top players. No one is leaving GA to go to an RL team.

Yes in theory and in most of the country, but in the short term where are these five new GA teams filling their rosters from? They are not coming from ECNL teams, so for most of these new teams, in the short term, they are filling their rosters with ECRL level talent. Heck, today TSJ is a lost cause, and SYC and VRSC GA teams are maybe on par with top ECRL teams.

Sure they are. NVA is itself an ECNL team. Also, you position this as though it’s static, but the truth is that over time certain girls who made ECNL get cut and others move up. If they lose the pipeline to that talent, see where the teams are in the next year or 2.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop comparing GA to ECRL. Whoever created the topic is clearly misinformed.

I’m with you, but I think the rapid growth of GA teams in the area is going to leave some of those teams (especially TSJFC and Alex) more like a RL team than a GA team. I’m a GA fan, but I would have preferred my DD play for a couple of local RL teams this season than for TSJFC. They were just that bad.

GA teams are clubs 1st team

ECRL teams are clubs 2nd team

It's this simple. ECNL parents are trying their best to equate GA with ECRL to elevate themselves. People aren't buying it. ECNL parents are getting desperate.

In this region right now you need to buy it. Maybe over time GA separates from ECRL but it wont be this fall. The player pool in the area is the player pool. Just because there are five brand spanking new GA teams does not mean they all have access to a new set of players. VRSC and SYC GA teams today aren't better than the top RL teams like Strikers, Arlington, and VA United, and they won't be tomorrow either. CISC because of timing of their tryouts before the announced GA is bringing ECNL teams pretty much intact to GA. NVA maybe in some age groups will have teams of mostly former ECNL players. Making CISC and NVA likely top of table. The rest, Loudoun, Alexandria, McLean are pulling from the RL player pool to fill out their new GA teams.

Agree there are ECRL teams that can beat some GA teams. There are also ECRL teams that can beat some ECNL teams. But the GA league is generally a more competitive league than ECRL.

The only people who don’t think GA is better than ECRL are RL club coaches and directors who are worried about losing their top players. No one is leaving GA to go to an RL team.

Yes in theory and in most of the country, but in the short term where are these five new GA teams filling their rosters from? They are not coming from ECNL teams, so for most of these new teams, in the short term, they are filling their rosters with ECRL level talent. Heck, today TSJ is a lost cause, and SYC and VRSC GA teams are maybe on par with top ECRL teams.

Where are the GA teams filling their rosters from? First, there are now two less ECNL teams than there were just a couple years ago. The best from those teams have all collected to the few remaining ones, but the rest of the former ECNL players went to GA teams. The GA teams are all competing to get those ECNL dropouts. The rest of the GA teams are former ECRL players.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop comparing GA to ECRL. Whoever created the topic is clearly misinformed.

I’m with you, but I think the rapid growth of GA teams in the area is going to leave some of those teams (especially TSJFC and Alex) more like a RL team than a GA team. I’m a GA fan, but I would have preferred my DD play for a couple of local RL teams this season than for TSJFC. They were just that bad.

GA teams are clubs 1st team

ECRL teams are clubs 2nd team

It's this simple. ECNL parents are trying their best to equate GA with ECRL to elevate themselves. People aren't buying it. ECNL parents are getting desperate.

In this region right now you need to buy it. Maybe over time GA separates from ECRL but it wont be this fall. The player pool in the area is the player pool. Just because there are five brand spanking new GA teams does not mean they all have access to a new set of players. VRSC and SYC GA teams today aren't better than the top RL teams like Strikers, Arlington, and VA United, and they won't be tomorrow either. CISC because of timing of their tryouts before the announced GA is bringing ECNL teams pretty much intact to GA. NVA maybe in some age groups will have teams of mostly former ECNL players. Making CISC and NVA likely top of table. The rest, Loudoun, Alexandria, McLean are pulling from the RL player pool to fill out their new GA teams.

Agree there are ECRL teams that can beat some GA teams. There are also ECRL teams that can beat some ECNL teams. But the GA league is generally a more competitive league than ECRL.

The only people who don’t think GA is better than ECRL are RL club coaches and directors who are worried about losing their top players. No one is leaving GA to go to an RL team.

Yes in theory and in most of the country, but in the short term where are these five new GA teams filling their rosters from? They are not coming from ECNL teams, so for most of these new teams, in the short term, they are filling their rosters with ECRL level talent. Heck, today TSJ is a lost cause, and SYC and VRSC GA teams are maybe on par with top ECRL teams.

Where are the GA teams filling their rosters from? First, there are now two less ECNL teams than there were just a couple years ago. The best from those teams have all collected to the few remaining ones, but the rest of the former ECNL players went to GA teams. The GA teams are all competing to get those ECNL dropouts. The rest of the GA teams are former ECRL players.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop comparing GA to ECRL. Whoever created the topic is clearly misinformed.

I’m with you, but I think the rapid growth of GA teams in the area is going to leave some of those teams (especially TSJFC and Alex) more like a RL team than a GA team. I’m a GA fan, but I would have preferred my DD play for a couple of local RL teams this season than for TSJFC. They were just that bad.

GA teams are clubs 1st team

ECRL teams are clubs 2nd team

It's this simple. ECNL parents are trying their best to equate GA with ECRL to elevate themselves. People aren't buying it. ECNL parents are getting desperate.

In this region right now you need to buy it. Maybe over time GA separates from ECRL but it wont be this fall. The player pool in the area is the player pool. Just because there are five brand spanking new GA teams does not mean they all have access to a new set of players. VRSC and SYC GA teams today aren't better than the top RL teams like Strikers, Arlington, and VA United, and they won't be tomorrow either. CISC because of timing of their tryouts before the announced GA is bringing ECNL teams pretty much intact to GA. NVA maybe in some age groups will have teams of mostly former ECNL players. Making CISC and NVA likely top of table. The rest, Loudoun, Alexandria, McLean are pulling from the RL player pool to fill out their new GA teams.

Agree there are ECRL teams that can beat some GA teams. There are also ECRL teams that can beat some ECNL teams. But the GA league is generally a more competitive league than ECRL.

The only people who don’t think GA is better than ECRL are RL club coaches and directors who are worried about losing their top players. No one is leaving GA to go to an RL team.

Yes in theory and in most of the country, but in the short term where are these five new GA teams filling their rosters from? They are not coming from ECNL teams, so for most of these new teams, in the short term, they are filling their rosters with ECRL level talent. Heck, today TSJ is a lost cause, and SYC and VRSC GA teams are maybe on par with top ECRL teams.

Where are the GA teams filling their rosters from? First, there are now two less ECNL teams than there were just a couple years ago. The best from those teams have all collected to the few remaining ones, but the rest of the former ECNL players went to GA teams. The GA teams are all competing to get those ECNL dropouts. The rest of the GA teams are former ECRL players.

Exactly - there simply are not enough ECNL caliber players to fill five new and 8 total GA teams in the DMV. Most of those eight clubs rosters are ECRL caliber.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop comparing GA to ECRL. Whoever created the topic is clearly misinformed.

I’m with you, but I think the rapid growth of GA teams in the area is going to leave some of those teams (especially TSJFC and Alex) more like a RL team than a GA team. I’m a GA fan, but I would have preferred my DD play for a couple of local RL teams this season than for TSJFC. They were just that bad.

GA teams are clubs 1st team

ECRL teams are clubs 2nd team

It's this simple. ECNL parents are trying their best to equate GA with ECRL to elevate themselves. People aren't buying it. ECNL parents are getting desperate.

In this region right now you need to buy it. Maybe over time GA separates from ECRL but it wont be this fall. The player pool in the area is the player pool. Just because there are five brand spanking new GA teams does not mean they all have access to a new set of players. VRSC and SYC GA teams today aren't better than the top RL teams like Strikers, Arlington, and VA United, and they won't be tomorrow either. CISC because of timing of their tryouts before the announced GA is bringing ECNL teams pretty much intact to GA. NVA maybe in some age groups will have teams of mostly former ECNL players. Making CISC and NVA likely top of table. The rest, Loudoun, Alexandria, McLean are pulling from the RL player pool to fill out their new GA teams.

Agree there are ECRL teams that can beat some GA teams. There are also ECRL teams that can beat some ECNL teams. But the GA league is generally a more competitive league than ECRL.

The only people who don’t think GA is better than ECRL are RL club coaches and directors who are worried about losing their top players. No one is leaving GA to go to an RL team.

Yes in theory and in most of the country, but in the short term where are these five new GA teams filling their rosters from? They are not coming from ECNL teams, so for most of these new teams, in the short term, they are filling their rosters with ECRL level talent. Heck, today TSJ is a lost cause, and SYC and VRSC GA teams are maybe on par with top ECRL teams.

Where are the GA teams filling their rosters from? First, there are now two less ECNL teams than there were just a couple years ago. The best from those teams have all collected to the few remaining ones, but the rest of the former ECNL players went to GA teams. The GA teams are all competing to get those ECNL dropouts. The rest of the GA teams are former ECRL players.

Exactly - there simply are not enough ECNL caliber players to fill five new and 8 total GA teams in the DMV. Most of those eight clubs rosters are ECRL caliber.

Right so if the better RL players move to GA, where does that leave RL? With a mix of lower level RL players and third team players.