If you're Jewish, how has October 7 impacted your outlook?

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Anonymous wrote:The liberal left is absolutely not a friend to Jewish people. Quite the opposite.

And that is ENTIRELY the result of the actions of the Jews.

Their barbarism against the Palestinians makes civil relations with Jews untenable.

I believe you are confounding Israel with "the Jews." That is a problem.

I believe “the problem” here is yours. You are the one that seems to think Jews and Israel are separate and distinct entities. They are not.

Good lord. That's incredibly offensive.

There is absolutely nothing untrue or offensive about it. It is simply fact. Zionism is perpetuated by Jews. Israel is a Zionist state. Israel is run by Jews. Genocide is being committed against Palestinians by zionist Jews.

If you are offended by those statements, then you are offended by truth.

DP.

Let's try this logic in the other direction:

ME terrorism is perpetuated by Muslims. Therefore Muslims are responsible for ME terrorism.

If you are offended by those statements, then you are offended by the truth.

Is that how your logic works?

If so, I reject it out of hand for both Muslims and Jews.

DP

Fact: Modern day terrorism was born of Zionist terrorism in furtherance of forcing the U.N. hands.

It’s a fact. It’s not open for debate. Own your own shit before you point fingers at others.

Lol @ "fact".

Totally ahistorical AND completely misses the point.

Bravo on the doubleheader.

You literally just blatantly lied in accusing another person of lying, and did it with the confidence of a serial liar. Kudos.

It is fact. Care for some examples like the King David Hotel, the Deir Yassin massacre, the link to YouTube videos of Irgun, Lehi and Stern Gang terrorists laughing about their historical terrorism? Past PMs of Israel laughing about it?

No, dear.

I readily admit that some Jews have at some times committed terrorism.

However, the prior post DID completely miss the point (calling out the racism of extrapolating the actions of the few to the character of the many, because Muslim actually does not = terrorist).

And, it IS ahistorical to suggest that "modern day terrorism" was "born out of" Zionist terrorism.

Because, you know, there are literally hundreds (perhaps thousands) of examples of pre-WW2 terrorism that have absolutely nothing to do with Zionism. Unless of course you think the suffragettes were Zionists?

Come back when you can follow the discussion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Israel historically always had a leftist Labor Party prime minister. Netanyahu is a Likud right wing so it’s a no brainer he would have tension with US Democratic administrations back to back and some of that spillover affected the US progressive /Democrat’s relationship with Israel.

One of Netanyahu’s dumbest moments was speaking to Congress snubbing Obama and Biden. Things like that aren’t forgotten by politicians.

He played politics and aligned himself with Trump and the Republican Party so much so that Netanyahu’s approval ratings among Republicans are higher than his ratings with American Jews (largely Democrat, progressive)

Biden can't remember which way is up, so no worries there mate.

[Anonymous]

The preview clips from 60 Minutes? Oh my.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is the point of keeping this thread open? It was supposed to be for Jewish people to express themselves and now it's just another "Jews are evil Zionists" thread complete with the same multi paragraph posts as every other Middle East thread.

+1. With 1-2 posters specifically who are totally unhinged with their tinfoil hats.

[Anonymous]

Trump should get 100 percent of the Jewish vote.

[Anonymous]

How long until Trump tweets out "Happy October 7th!"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The liberal left is absolutely not a friend to Jewish people. Quite the opposite.

And that is ENTIRELY the result of the actions of the Jews.

Their barbarism against the Palestinians makes civil relations with Jews untenable.

I believe you are confounding Israel with "the Jews." That is a problem.

DP

The conflation happens because you call it “the Jewish homeland”, because school districts in America are providing counseling support for their Jewish students today (wtf), and because Jewish people and their allies want to pick and choose when Israel is Jewish and when it’s democratic - that inconsistency is of your own doing, not ours. Pick a lane.

THIS!!!!

Don’t tell us “it’s about opposing Israel, not Jewish people” and then turn around out of the other side of your mouth and say something about “the sanctity of the Jewish homeland”.

There would be no Israel without Jews. There would be no genocide of Palestinians without Israel. Ergo, there would be no genocide of Palestinians without Jews.

This is my problem with Jews. You ALL support Israel. All of you. And I cannot wait for Harris to cut Israel off.

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Anonymous wrote:The liberal left is absolutely not a friend to Jewish people. Quite the opposite.

And that is ENTIRELY the result of the actions of the Jews.

Their barbarism against the Palestinians makes civil relations with Jews untenable.

I believe you are confounding Israel with "the Jews." That is a problem.

I believe “the problem” here is yours. You are the one that seems to think Jews and Israel are separate and distinct entities. They are not.

Good lord. That's incredibly offensive.

There is absolutely nothing untrue or offensive about it. It is simply fact. Zionism is perpetuated by Jews. Israel is a Zionist state. Israel is run by Jews. Genocide is being committed against Palestinians by zionist Jews.

If you are offended by those statements, then you are offended by truth.

DP.

Let's try this logic in the other direction:

ME terrorism is perpetuated by Muslims. Therefore Muslims are responsible for ME terrorism.

If you are offended by those statements, then you are offended by the truth.

Is that how your logic works?

If so, I reject it out of hand for both Muslims and Jews.

DP

Fact: Modern day terrorism was born of Zionist terrorism in furtherance of forcing the U.N. hands.

It’s a fact. It’s not open for debate. Own your own shit before you point fingers at others.

Lol @ "fact".

Totally ahistorical AND completely misses the point.

Bravo on the doubleheader.

You literally just blatantly lied in accusing another person of lying, and did it with the confidence of a serial liar. Kudos.

It is fact. Care for some examples like the King David Hotel, the Deir Yassin massacre, the link to YouTube videos of Irgun, Lehi and Stern Gang terrorists laughing about their historical terrorism? Past PMs of Israel laughing about it?

No, dear.

I readily admit that some Jews have at some times committed terrorism.

The ENTIRE creation of the state of israel was an act of terrorism.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The liberal left is absolutely not a friend to Jewish people. Quite the opposite.

And that is ENTIRELY the result of the actions of the Jews.

Their barbarism against the Palestinians makes civil relations with Jews untenable.

I believe you are confounding Israel with "the Jews." That is a problem.

I believe “the problem” here is yours. You are the one that seems to think Jews and Israel are separate and distinct entities. They are not.

Good lord. That's incredibly offensive.

There is absolutely nothing untrue or offensive about it. It is simply fact. Zionism is perpetuated by Jews. Israel is a Zionist state. Israel is run by Jews. Genocide is being committed against Palestinians by zionist Jews.

If you are offended by those statements, then you are offended by truth.

DP.

Let's try this logic in the other direction:

ME terrorism is perpetuated by Muslims. Therefore Muslims are responsible for ME terrorism.

If you are offended by those statements, then you are offended by the truth.

Is that how your logic works?

If so, I reject it out of hand for both Muslims and Jews.

DP

Fact: Modern day terrorism was born of Zionist terrorism in furtherance of forcing the U.N. hands.

It’s a fact. It’s not open for debate. Own your own shit before you point fingers at others.

Lol @ "fact".

Totally ahistorical AND completely misses the point.

Bravo on the doubleheader.

You literally just blatantly lied in accusing another person of lying, and did it with the confidence of a serial liar. Kudos.

It is fact. Care for some examples like the King David Hotel, the Deir Yassin massacre, the link to YouTube videos of Irgun, Lehi and Stern Gang terrorists laughing about their historical terrorism? Past PMs of Israel laughing about it?

No, dear.

I readily admit that some Jews have at some times committed terrorism.

The ENTIRE creation of the state of israel was an act of terrorism.

The United Nations are terrorists?

Might want to reconsider your worldview.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The liberal left is absolutely not a friend to Jewish people. Quite the opposite.

And that is ENTIRELY the result of the actions of the Jews.

Their barbarism against the Palestinians makes civil relations with Jews untenable.

I believe you are confounding Israel with "the Jews." That is a problem.

DP

The conflation happens because you call it “the Jewish homeland”, because school districts in America are providing counseling support for their Jewish students today (wtf), and because Jewish people and their allies want to pick and choose when Israel is Jewish and when it’s democratic - that inconsistency is of your own doing, not ours. Pick a lane.

THIS!!!!

Don’t tell us “it’s about opposing Israel, not Jewish people” and then turn around out of the other side of your mouth and say something about “the sanctity of the Jewish homeland”.

There would be no Israel without Jews. There would be no genocide of Palestinians without Israel. Ergo, there would be no genocide of Palestinians without Jews.

This is my problem with Jews. You ALL support Israel. All of you. And I cannot wait for Harris to cut Israel off.

There would be no terrorism in the world today without Muslims. Ergo…

Oh wait. No decent human being believes that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump should get 100 percent of the Jewish vote.

As a Jew, I'm not voting for Trump, because of his "very fine people" screaming "Jews will not replace us" in Charlottesville. As an American, I'm not voting for him for all the other reasons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The liberal left is absolutely not a friend to Jewish people. Quite the opposite.

And that is ENTIRELY the result of the actions of the Jews.

Their barbarism against the Palestinians makes civil relations with Jews untenable.

I believe you are confounding Israel with "the Jews." That is a problem.

DP

The conflation happens because you call it “the Jewish homeland”, because school districts in America are providing counseling support for their Jewish students today (wtf), and because Jewish people and their allies want to pick and choose when Israel is Jewish and when it’s democratic - that inconsistency is of your own doing, not ours. Pick a lane.

THIS!!!!

Don’t tell us “it’s about opposing Israel, not Jewish people” and then turn around out of the other side of your mouth and say something about “the sanctity of the Jewish homeland”.

There would be no Israel without Jews. There would be no genocide of Palestinians without Israel. Ergo, there would be no genocide of Palestinians without Jews.

This is my problem with Jews. You ALL support Israel. All of you. And I cannot wait for Harris to cut Israel off.

Don't hold your breath on that one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The liberal left is absolutely not a friend to Jewish people. Quite the opposite.

And that is ENTIRELY the result of the actions of the Jews.

Their barbarism against the Palestinians makes civil relations with Jews untenable.

I believe you are confounding Israel with "the Jews." That is a problem.

DP

The conflation happens because you call it “the Jewish homeland”, because school districts in America are providing counseling support for their Jewish students today (wtf), and because Jewish people and their allies want to pick and choose when Israel is Jewish and when it’s democratic - that inconsistency is of your own doing, not ours. Pick a lane.

You have no idea how all Jews feel about anything. Using "the Jews" as shorthand for Israeli policy is anti-semitic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The liberal left is absolutely not a friend to Jewish people. Quite the opposite.

And that is ENTIRELY the result of the actions of the Jews.

Their barbarism against the Palestinians makes civil relations with Jews untenable.

I believe you are confounding Israel with "the Jews." That is a problem.

DP

The conflation happens because you call it “the Jewish homeland”, because school districts in America are providing counseling support for their Jewish students today (wtf), and because Jewish people and their allies want to pick and choose when Israel is Jewish and when it’s democratic - that inconsistency is of your own doing, not ours. Pick a lane.

THIS!!!!

Don’t tell us “it’s about opposing Israel, not Jewish people” and then turn around out of the other side of your mouth and say something about “the sanctity of the Jewish homeland”.

There would be no Israel without Jews. There would be no genocide of Palestinians without Israel. Ergo, there would be no genocide of Palestinians without Jews.

This is my problem with Jews. You ALL support Israel. All of you. And I cannot wait for Harris to cut Israel off.

This is objectively untrue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The liberal left is absolutely not a friend to Jewish people. Quite the opposite.

And that is ENTIRELY the result of the actions of the Jews.

Their barbarism against the Palestinians makes civil relations with Jews untenable.

I believe you are confounding Israel with "the Jews." That is a problem.

DP

The conflation happens because you call it “the Jewish homeland”, because school districts in America are providing counseling support for their Jewish students today (wtf), and because Jewish people and their allies want to pick and choose when Israel is Jewish and when it’s democratic - that inconsistency is of your own doing, not ours. Pick a lane.

THIS!!!!

Don’t tell us “it’s about opposing Israel, not Jewish people” and then turn around out of the other side of your mouth and say something about “the sanctity of the Jewish homeland”.

There would be no Israel without Jews. There would be no genocide of Palestinians without Israel. Ergo, there would be no genocide of Palestinians without Jews.

This is my problem with Jews. You ALL support Israel. All of you. And I cannot wait for Harris to cut Israel off.

This is objectively untrue.

+1. And also just proves that PP is not remotely interested in the truth.