Universally beloved schools

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Anonymous wrote:Brown seems to get the most love

Nope. It's kind of rundown and its endowment is a joke compared to other Ivies. It's not universally loved just because it's academically less challenging than most other T20 schools and a couple of DCUM moms w/Brown kids post constantly here.

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan's undergrad population is woefully weak compared to stronger, usually private, seletive colleges. 40% of Michigan's freshmen class score below 1340. That is not a bad number, but definitely not elite.

You post this made up number on every single thread that mentions Michigan. The 50th percentile is 1470 and probably even higher for 2024. And, for out of state kids, even higher than that (my kid was in mid-1500s) and it was their top choice. Why are you always spreading misinformation about UMich?

Direct from University of Michigan's Common Data Set, available at the university website:

https://obp.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/pubdata/cds/cds_2022-2023_umaa.pdf


SAT
25% 75%
1350 1530

Percent submitting SAT score 52%
Percent submitting ACT scores 18%
Historically at Michigan about 10% of enrolled freshmen submitted both an ACT and SAT score.

Those students who scored below the 25th percentile are encouraged NOT to submit scores.

No matter how much you hope that it is not true that about 40% of Michigan's freshmen class have mediocre SAT scores, the facts DO NOT LIE. 25 percent of those who did submit scored below a 1350, and most likely a good percentage of the remaining cohort of test optional freshmen were low scorers (otherwise they would have submitted, doh!)

You aren’t even posting the most recent information from the common data set but are citing 2022-23. You are also leaving out the 50th percentile. What is your beef with Michigan? You clearly keep trying to manipulating statistics to prove some kind of point - do you think no one notices this?

Everything he is saying is sorta true but the reason is because michigan is a state school. Half the kids at michigan are in state. They dig pretty deep in state.
The in state acceptance rate is high for such a hard admit school. The out of state SAT score is probably a bit lower than the 75th percentile while the in state SAT score is probably a bit higher than the 25th percentile. The mentally unstable michigan football fans are mostly homegrown, they didn't grow up in connecticut and then decide to start painting their bodies blue and gold and cosplay a wolverine.

In state admission is 40% and one of the best values in higher education. Trust me, the kids who go to Cranbrook and Grosse Point schools are usually not slouches. But what makes it rich as a state school are kids from a small town in the Upper Peninsula or 30 minutes outside of Grand Rapids who are excited about getting in and meeting people from all over the world. Should better schools only be populated with privileged kids?

That's a private school.

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan's undergrad population is woefully weak compared to stronger, usually private, seletive colleges. 40% of Michigan's freshmen class score below 1340. That is not a bad number, but definitely not elite.

You post this made up number on every single thread that mentions Michigan. The 50th percentile is 1470 and probably even higher for 2024. And, for out of state kids, even higher than that (my kid was in mid-1500s) and it was their top choice. Why are you always spreading misinformation about UMich?

Direct from University of Michigan's Common Data Set, available at the university website:

https://obp.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/pubdata/cds/cds_2022-2023_umaa.pdf


SAT
25% 75%
1350 1530

Percent submitting SAT score 52%
Percent submitting ACT scores 18%
Historically at Michigan about 10% of enrolled freshmen submitted both an ACT and SAT score.

Those students who scored below the 25th percentile are encouraged NOT to submit scores.

No matter how much you hope that it is not true that about 40% of Michigan's freshmen class have mediocre SAT scores, the facts DO NOT LIE. 25 percent of those who did submit scored below a 1350, and most likely a good percentage of the remaining cohort of test optional freshmen were low scorers (otherwise they would have submitted, doh!)

You aren’t even posting the most recent information from the common data set but are citing 2022-23. You are also leaving out the 50th percentile. What is your beef with Michigan? You clearly keep trying to manipulating statistics to prove some kind of point - do you think no one notices this?

Everything he is saying is sorta true but the reason is because michigan is a state school. Half the kids at michigan are in state. They dig pretty deep in state.
The in state acceptance rate is high for such a hard admit school. The out of state SAT score is probably a bit lower than the 75th percentile while the in state SAT score is probably a bit higher than the 25th percentile. The mentally unstable michigan football fans are mostly homegrown, they didn't grow up in connecticut and then decide to start painting their bodies blue and gold and cosplay a wolverine.

In state admission is 40% and one of the best values in higher education. Trust me, the kids who go to Cranbrook and Grosse Point schools are usually not slouches. But what makes it rich as a state school are kids from a small town in the Upper Peninsula or 30 minutes outside of Grand Rapids who are excited about getting in and meeting people from all over the world. Should better schools only be populated with privileged kids?

That's a private school.

The county that sends the most kids is Oakland (home of Cranbrook in Bloomfield Hills). U of M doesn't need to dig deep there.

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Harvard and Stanford. They consistently have yield above 80%.

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Anonymous wrote:Penn is not universally loved

+1. My kids have a strong dislike for Penn. They think it has a toxic culture with cutthroat kids.

Who TF cares what someone with no current students thinks? I have one there now and one graduated, and another is at Princeton. All ivies are hard. All have a portion of over competitive people. Mine have all loved their schools and thrived in the intellectual environment: the competitive people are a small minority and it is typically people who are not quite academically up to par who act that way. I went to a non-ivy top10 and spouse was at a different ivy than kids: they called it “effortless perfection” in the 90s: the same idea as penn face, the “tradition” of acting fine on the outside while juggling a lot and gunning in classes. Mental health is far more validated and in the open than it was then.
Penn and Princeton now have much more compassion and collaboration among peers than our schools did. The grades are also easier: Cs are rare and As are more common than Bs except for intros maybe.
Lots of schools get hated on DCUM. Everytime it is “toxic” or “cutthroat” it is usually stated by folks whose kids did not get in. In middle and high school 2 of my 3 had serious issues with bullies and also some very dramatic cutthroat issues among the top 10%. Their ivies have been a breeze in comparison. People are actually nice to each other and real.

Appears YOU do considering your 1,000 word essay.

Yes God forbid someone care enough to write a paragraph. This forum is the absolute worst. This poster is promoting kindness so of course gets attacked.

That poster is promoting kindness?!? She started by saying who tf cares what someone thinks! Especially the thread topic is what schools are universally beloved - so all opinions are relevant. She also assumed that anyone who disliked Penn had kids who didn’t get in. Nope, the point was my kids with near perfect SATs and high GPAs had zero interest in Penn because of its toxic reputation which was reinforced by the kids in their class who ended up going there.

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Anonymous wrote:Brown seems to get the most love

Nope. It's kind of rundown and its endowment is a joke compared to other Ivies. It's not universally loved just because it's academically less challenging than most other T20 schools and a couple of DCUM moms w/Brown kids post constantly here.

and you know this on an anonymous message board…how?

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Universally loved by whom? Your in laws and neighbors? The lady in the grocery store check out? Employers? The most important judge for me is the students and alumni themselves. Their lists may be very different from the ones mentioned frequently on these boards. For example, I hear parents say their UVA targeting kids would rather die than go to JMU. But I’ve never heard a JMU grad throw shade on the school. I’m sure there are many examples like that. I’d like to hear about schools with the happiest students.

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Anonymous wrote:Universally loved by whom? Your in laws and neighbors? The lady in the grocery store check out? Employers? The most important judge for me is the students and alumni themselves. Their lists may be very different from the ones mentioned frequently on these boards. For example, I hear parents say their UVA targeting kids would rather die than go to JMU. But I’ve never heard a JMU grad throw shade on the school. I’m sure there are many examples like that. I’d like to hear about schools with the happiest students.

JMU is a fabulous school with a great student body - kind, smart, fun, well-rounded. Everyone I've talked to who has (or had) kids there raves about the school. I certainly don't universally hear that about the other school mentioned in your post. I would be thrilled if my own kids go there.

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I think the real question is, what schools are universally loved by those who WENT there....

And three come to mind for me.

Syracuse.
JMU.
Christopher Newport.

Every graduate and current student I know has loved those schools. People seem happy there.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the real question is, what schools are universally loved by those who WENT there....

And three come to mind for me.

Syracuse.
JMU.
Christopher Newport.

Every graduate and current student I know has loved those schools. People seem happy there.

Agree. I would add Virginia Tech.

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Anonymous wrote:Universally loved by whom? Your in laws and neighbors? The lady in the grocery store check out? Employers? The most important judge for me is the students and alumni themselves. Their lists may be very different from the ones mentioned frequently on these boards. For example, I hear parents say their UVA targeting kids would rather die than go to JMU. But I’ve never heard a JMU grad throw shade on the school. I’m sure there are many examples like that. I’d like to hear about schools with the happiest students.

+1

That's the T20 or T50 list I'd like to see.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the real question is, what schools are universally loved by those who WENT there....

And three come to mind for me.

Syracuse.
JMU.
Christopher Newport.

Every graduate and current student I know has loved those schools. People seem happy there.

Agree. I would add Virginia Tech.

Yeah, I’d replace CNU with VT. I really don’t hear much about CNU. I’m sure it’s a fine school but not certain it rises to the level “beloved” status.

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard and Stanford. They consistently have yield above 80%.

+1. I went to Harvard and loved the experience. To each his own

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A friend’s daughter left CNU

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Anonymous wrote:Universally loved by whom? Your in laws and neighbors? The lady in the grocery store check out? Employers? The most important judge for me is the students and alumni themselves. Their lists may be very different from the ones mentioned frequently on these boards. For example, I hear parents say their UVA targeting kids would rather die than go to JMU. But I’ve never heard a JMU grad throw shade on the school. I’m sure there are many examples like that. I’d like to hear about schools with the happiest students.

+1

That's the T20 or T50 list I'd like to see.

Princeton Review.