Universally beloved schools

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan's undergrad population is woefully weak compared to stronger, usually private, seletive colleges. 40% of Michigan's freshmen class score below 1340. That is not a bad number, but definitely not elite.

You post this made up number on every single thread that mentions Michigan. The 50th percentile is 1470 and probably even higher for 2024. And, for out of state kids, even higher than that (my kid was in mid-1500s) and it was their top choice. Why are you always spreading misinformation about UMich?

Direct from University of Michigan's Common Data Set, available at the university website:

https://obp.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/pubdata/cds/cds_2022-2023_umaa.pdf


SAT
25% 75%
1350 1530

Percent submitting SAT score 52%
Percent submitting ACT scores 18%
Historically at Michigan about 10% of enrolled freshmen submitted both an ACT and SAT score.

Those students who scored below the 25th percentile are encouraged NOT to submit scores.

No matter how much you hope that it is not true that about 40% of Michigan's freshmen class have mediocre SAT scores, the facts DO NOT LIE. 25 percent of those who did submit scored below a 1350, and most likely a good percentage of the remaining cohort of test optional freshmen were low scorers (otherwise they would have submitted, doh!)

You aren’t even posting the most recent information from the common data set but are citing 2022-23. You are also leaving out the 50th percentile. What is your beef with Michigan? You clearly keep trying to manipulating statistics to prove some kind of point - do you think no one notices this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yale.

Everybody loves Yale and wants to go there.

I hate Yale. Never wanted to get even close to New Haven.

Yale hates you.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you asking about what kids like or what parents like? Most kids love JMU but plenty of parents don’t think it’s prestigious enough. Same can be said for VT.

I have literally never read on here or heard IRL one negative thing about JMU. Kids love it, parents love it. Its for the plebes sure but sounds like a good time.

My nephew and a colleague's son both had serious issues at JMU. The drinking and hookup culture at JMU is so out of control. It's truly disgusting.

OMG drinking & hooking up? At a college in the USA? In the 2020s? Sources please.

Shocking! We need to hear more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Michigan's undergrad population is woefully weak compared to stronger, usually private, seletive colleges. 40% of Michigan's freshmen class score below 1340. That is not a bad number, but definitely not elite.

You post this made up number on every single thread that mentions Michigan. The 50th percentile is 1470 and probably even higher for 2024. And, for out of state kids, even higher than that (my kid was in mid-1500s) and it was their top choice. Why are you always spreading misinformation about UMich?

Direct from University of Michigan's Common Data Set, available at the university website:

https://obp.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/pubdata/cds/cds_2022-2023_umaa.pdf


SAT
25% 75%
1350 1530

Percent submitting SAT score 52%
Percent submitting ACT scores 18%
Historically at Michigan about 10% of enrolled freshmen submitted both an ACT and SAT score.

Those students who scored below the 25th percentile are encouraged NOT to submit scores.

No matter how much you hope that it is not true that about 40% of Michigan's freshmen class have mediocre SAT scores, the facts DO NOT LIE. 25 percent of those who did submit scored below a 1350, and most likely a good percentage of the remaining cohort of test optional freshmen were low scorers (otherwise they would have submitted, doh!)

This is a safe space. Tell us where the Michigan hurt you.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools like Johns Hopkins are respected, but that’s different from being “loved,” which is more of a warm fuzzy feeling.

For warm and fuzzy it is Brown.

Lots of eye-rolling on our Brown tour (2021 or 2022) when all of the tour guides announced their pronouns. Also, a friend's daughter (now graduated) faced disciplinary action there for refusing to state her pronouns in a class group. So no, not warm and fuzzy.

[color=red]you eye roll for pronouns? perhaps you would be more comfortable at liberty u

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And you perhaps would be more comfortable at Lomonosov University in Moscow?

Hey! That's a good school! At least 13 Nobel Prize winners and 6 Fields Medals!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_State_University

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Stanford?
Syracuse?
Princeton?

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Brown!

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Michigan grad and resident here. Great school for the right person. But the size has grown in recent years and that is really wrong to do. It dilutes resources. Also agree with the cult mentality. It is a university, not a religious site.

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A different Michigan resident here, with no connection to U of Mich. I wonder if the U of Mich (even moreso than other universities) accepts students based on how they think they will do in a particular major.

For example, few years ago my kid’s classmate got accepted into U of Mich engineering with a 28 ACT. But he was an immigrant from Korea—his math score was very high, but the composite was brought down by low language scores.

Perhaps others get accepted into LSA with lopsided test scores favoring verbal skills? This might explain why the people who go there seem universally very bright, even if composite test scores aren’t through the roof.

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Anonymous wrote:A different Michigan resident here, with no connection to U of Mich. I wonder if the U of Mich (even moreso than other universities) accepts students based on how they think they will do in a particular major.

For example, few years ago my kid’s classmate got accepted into U of Mich engineering with a 28 ACT. But he was an immigrant from Korea—his math score was very high, but the composite was brought down by low language scores.

Perhaps others get accepted into LSA with lopsided test scores favoring verbal skills? This might explain why the people who go there seem universally very bright, even if composite test scores aren’t through the roof.

All colleges should do that.

[Anonymous]

Brown seems to get the most love

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Michigan's undergrad population is woefully weak compared to stronger, usually private, seletive colleges. 40% of Michigan's freshmen class score below 1340. That is not a bad number, but definitely not elite.

You post this made up number on every single thread that mentions Michigan. The 50th percentile is 1470 and probably even higher for 2024. And, for out of state kids, even higher than that (my kid was in mid-1500s) and it was their top choice. Why are you always spreading misinformation about UMich?

Direct from University of Michigan's Common Data Set, available at the university website:

https://obp.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/pubdata/cds/cds_2022-2023_umaa.pdf


SAT
25% 75%
1350 1530

Percent submitting SAT score 52%
Percent submitting ACT scores 18%
Historically at Michigan about 10% of enrolled freshmen submitted both an ACT and SAT score.

Those students who scored below the 25th percentile are encouraged NOT to submit scores.

No matter how much you hope that it is not true that about 40% of Michigan's freshmen class have mediocre SAT scores, the facts DO NOT LIE. 25 percent of those who did submit scored below a 1350, and most likely a good percentage of the remaining cohort of test optional freshmen were low scorers (otherwise they would have submitted, doh!)

You aren’t even posting the most recent information from the common data set but are citing 2022-23. You are also leaving out the 50th percentile. What is your beef with Michigan? You clearly keep trying to manipulating statistics to prove some kind of point - do you think no one notices this?

Everything he is saying is sorta true but the reason is because michigan is a state school. Half the kids at michigan are in state. They dig pretty deep in state.
The in state acceptance rate is high for such a hard admit school. The out of state SAT score is probably a bit lower than the 75th percentile while the in state SAT score is probably a bit higher than the 25th percentile. The mentally unstable michigan football fans are mostly homegrown, they didn't grow up in connecticut and then decide to start painting their bodies blue and gold and cosplay a wolverine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Michigan's undergrad population is woefully weak compared to stronger, usually private, seletive colleges. 40% of Michigan's freshmen class score below 1340. That is not a bad number, but definitely not elite.

You post this made up number on every single thread that mentions Michigan. The 50th percentile is 1470 and probably even higher for 2024. And, for out of state kids, even higher than that (my kid was in mid-1500s) and it was their top choice. Why are you always spreading misinformation about UMich?

Direct from University of Michigan's Common Data Set, available at the university website:

https://obp.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/pubdata/cds/cds_2022-2023_umaa.pdf


SAT
25% 75%
1350 1530

Percent submitting SAT score 52%
Percent submitting ACT scores 18%
Historically at Michigan about 10% of enrolled freshmen submitted both an ACT and SAT score.

Those students who scored below the 25th percentile are encouraged NOT to submit scores.

No matter how much you hope that it is not true that about 40% of Michigan's freshmen class have mediocre SAT scores, the facts DO NOT LIE. 25 percent of those who did submit scored below a 1350, and most likely a good percentage of the remaining cohort of test optional freshmen were low scorers (otherwise they would have submitted, doh!)

You aren’t even posting the most recent information from the common data set but are citing 2022-23. You are also leaving out the 50th percentile. What is your beef with Michigan? You clearly keep trying to manipulating statistics to prove some kind of point - do you think no one notices this?

Everything he is saying is sorta true but the reason is because michigan is a state school. Half the kids at michigan are in state. They dig pretty deep in state.
The in state acceptance rate is high for such a hard admit school. The out of state SAT score is probably a bit lower than the 75th percentile while the in state SAT score is probably a bit higher than the 25th percentile. The mentally unstable michigan football fans are mostly homegrown, they didn't grow up in connecticut and then decide to start painting their bodies blue and gold and cosplay a wolverine.

Incorrect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Michigan's undergrad population is woefully weak compared to stronger, usually private, seletive colleges. 40% of Michigan's freshmen class score below 1340. That is not a bad number, but definitely not elite.

You post this made up number on every single thread that mentions Michigan. The 50th percentile is 1470 and probably even higher for 2024. And, for out of state kids, even higher than that (my kid was in mid-1500s) and it was their top choice. Why are you always spreading misinformation about UMich?

Direct from University of Michigan's Common Data Set, available at the university website:

https://obp.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/pubdata/cds/cds_2022-2023_umaa.pdf


SAT
25% 75%
1350 1530

Percent submitting SAT score 52%
Percent submitting ACT scores 18%
Historically at Michigan about 10% of enrolled freshmen submitted both an ACT and SAT score.

Those students who scored below the 25th percentile are encouraged NOT to submit scores.

No matter how much you hope that it is not true that about 40% of Michigan's freshmen class have mediocre SAT scores, the facts DO NOT LIE. 25 percent of those who did submit scored below a 1350, and most likely a good percentage of the remaining cohort of test optional freshmen were low scorers (otherwise they would have submitted, doh!)

You aren’t even posting the most recent information from the common data set but are citing 2022-23. You are also leaving out the 50th percentile. What is your beef with Michigan? You clearly keep trying to manipulating statistics to prove some kind of point - do you think no one notices this?

Everything he is saying is sorta true but the reason is because michigan is a state school. Half the kids at michigan are in state. They dig pretty deep in state.
The in state acceptance rate is high for such a hard admit school. The out of state SAT score is probably a bit lower than the 75th percentile while the in state SAT score is probably a bit higher than the 25th percentile. The mentally unstable michigan football fans are mostly homegrown, they didn't grow up in connecticut and then decide to start painting their bodies blue and gold and cosplay a wolverine.

In state admission is 40% and one of the best values in higher education. Trust me, the kids who go to Cranbrook and Grosse Point schools are usually not slouches. But what makes it rich as a state school are kids from a small town in the Upper Peninsula or 30 minutes outside of Grand Rapids who are excited about getting in and meeting people from all over the world. Should better schools only be populated with privileged kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Michigan's undergrad population is woefully weak compared to stronger, usually private, seletive colleges. 40% of Michigan's freshmen class score below 1340. That is not a bad number, but definitely not elite.

You post this made up number on every single thread that mentions Michigan. The 50th percentile is 1470 and probably even higher for 2024. And, for out of state kids, even higher than that (my kid was in mid-1500s) and it was their top choice. Why are you always spreading misinformation about UMich?

Direct from University of Michigan's Common Data Set, available at the university website:

https://obp.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/pubdata/cds/cds_2022-2023_umaa.pdf


SAT
25% 75%
1350 1530

Percent submitting SAT score 52%
Percent submitting ACT scores 18%
Historically at Michigan about 10% of enrolled freshmen submitted both an ACT and SAT score.

Those students who scored below the 25th percentile are encouraged NOT to submit scores.

No matter how much you hope that it is not true that about 40% of Michigan's freshmen class have mediocre SAT scores, the facts DO NOT LIE. 25 percent of those who did submit scored below a 1350, and most likely a good percentage of the remaining cohort of test optional freshmen were low scorers (otherwise they would have submitted, doh!)

You aren’t even posting the most recent information from the common data set but are citing 2022-23. You are also leaving out the 50th percentile. What is your beef with Michigan? You clearly keep trying to manipulating statistics to prove some kind of point - do you think no one notices this?

Everything he is saying is sorta true but the reason is because michigan is a state school. Half the kids at michigan are in state. They dig pretty deep in state.
The in state acceptance rate is high for such a hard admit school. The out of state SAT score is probably a bit lower than the 75th percentile while the in state SAT score is probably a bit higher than the 25th percentile. The mentally unstable michigan football fans are mostly homegrown, they didn't grow up in connecticut and then decide to start painting their bodies blue and gold and cosplay a wolverine.

In state admission is 40% and one of the best values in higher education. Trust me, the kids who go to Cranbrook and Grosse Point schools are usually not slouches. But what makes it rich as a state school are kids from a small town in the Upper Peninsula or 30 minutes outside of Grand Rapids who are excited about getting in and meeting people from all over the world. Should better schools only be populated with privileged kids?

I don’t think that’s a question you want to ask around here, unfortunately.