What happened to the Moderate Dem or Rep??

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Anonymous wrote:Biden is a left of center president. Schumer and Jeffries are left of center democrats. None of the three - the Dmeocratic leadership, are "progressives"

There is a lot of room in the democratic tent for people who are pro-choice and don't want crazy running the country.

I would argue that Biden is much closer to Reagan than most of the current GOP.

What about a pro life democrat. Is there room for them?

I'm certain some dems are pro-life but just aren't into forcing their values on others like the MAGAs.

You do understand that Pro Lifers think abortion is murder, right? Are people “forcing their values on others” when they advocate for prison sentences for a person who shoots someone? Because according to your logic they are.

Yes, pro-lifers think abortion is murder. Thinking that doesn't make it true. Did you know newborns in Texas are suffering and dying at a record rate now? That is horrific to me.
https://apnews.com/article/abortion-texas-infant-mortality-birth-defects-b055ac35cdbc9ec13f400b4c3e1056e7

[Anonymous]

But OP, don’t you see that reparations and land-back are indeed moderate issues?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Biden is a left of center president. Schumer and Jeffries are left of center democrats. None of the three - the Dmeocratic leadership, are "progressives"

There is a lot of room in the democratic tent for people who are pro-choice and don't want crazy running the country.

I would argue that Biden is much closer to Reagan than most of the current GOP.

What about a pro life democrat. Is there room for them?

I'm certain some dems are pro-life but just aren't into forcing their values on others like the MAGAs.

You do understand that Pro Lifers think abortion is murder, right? Are people “forcing their values on others” when they advocate for prison sentences for a person who shoots someone? Because according to your logic they are.

Yes, pro-lifers think abortion is murder. Thinking that doesn't make it true. Did you know newborns in Texas are suffering and dying at a record rate now? That is horrific to me.
https://apnews.com/article/abortion-texas-infant-mortality-birth-defects-b055ac35cdbc9ec13f400b4c3e1056e7

Forced birthers think this is great news, judging by their deafening silence.

The cruelty is the point. Abortion rights advocates said “making abortion illegal will mean more dead women and children” and forced birthers said, “we don’t care.”

I can’t imagine anyone voting for forced birthers and wanting to call themselves moderate for it. There’s nothing moderate about ruining women’s lives (google the Turnaway Study for proof) and forcing women to birth dead or dying babies, or dying themselves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Biden is a left of center president. Schumer and Jeffries are left of center democrats. None of the three - the Dmeocratic leadership, are "progressives"

There is a lot of room in the democratic tent for people who are pro-choice and don't want crazy running the country.

Is there room for pro-life?

Depends on what you mean? Like no abortion for any reason or circumstance? then probably not. If you mean "Roe" - then of course. Because Roe is what the Dems support.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a moderate Rep who truly despises extreme left ideologies just as much as extreme right ideologies I am the one who feels hopeless with the ever-dividing extremism our society has evolved to, and you can blame the Democrats just as much as the Republicans. Both are equally to blame.

Me too. There are a good number of us.
You get more LWNJs on here because that is who this forum caters to.
There are many RWNJs out there also though.

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Anonymous wrote:But OP, don’t you see that reparations and land-back are indeed moderate issues?

Whose platform calls for implementing reparations and/or land-back?

Nobody's. It makes me immensely happy though that all y'all have are lies.

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Anonymous wrote:Both sides, you guys.

I know all you moderates are truly convinced you’re the smartest, most rational people ever, but you’re slowly boiling to death in a fire started by the GOP and you’re mad at the people noticing it’s getting hot. You’re not rational, you’re not moderate.

I could go on, but you “common sense” people are over sensitive and under thinking.

Haha. I also think people who throw the terms “left wing” and “progressive” as insults truly no idea what those terms originally means.

Left wing stems from the fact that those who use to represent interests of the labor class sat on ten left hand spire of the room. Progressive just means a desire for progressive in positive change.

I am proudly a progressive left winger and hope the D party doesn’t die a slow death of “being moderate” (ie fraction of the party that thinks we are all good and no change needed).

Democrats have abandoned labor and support the desires of the laptop class.

Biden literally stood with labor in a strike. The first president ever to do so.

The democrats are literally the party of labor - workers rights, safety conditions, minimum wage, etc.- all things the GOP opposes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Biden is a left of center president. Schumer and Jeffries are left of center democrats. None of the three - the Dmeocratic leadership, are "progressives"

There is a lot of room in the democratic tent for people who are pro-choice and don't want crazy running the country.

Is there room for pro-life?

Depends on what you mean? Like no abortion for any reason or circumstance? then probably not. If you mean "Roe" - then of course. Because Roe is what the Dems support.

There’s plenty of room for pro-life. If by that you mean something like a law making it illegal to force someone else to have an abortion, I’d be completely behind that.

If you mean, is there room to make others carry dying babies to term so they can watch them suffocate, no. If you mean is there room to force eleven year olds to bear their rapists children, no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why not Mark Kelly and Gretchen Whitmer as the ticket? That would be my dream ticket.

Because there is a sitting vice president who has received the endorsements of everyone who matters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Both sides, you guys.

I know all you moderates are truly convinced you’re the smartest, most rational people ever, but you’re slowly boiling to death in a fire started by the GOP and you’re mad at the people noticing it’s getting hot. You’re not rational, you’re not moderate.

I could go on, but you “common sense” people are over sensitive and under thinking.

Haha. I also think people who throw the terms “left wing” and “progressive” as insults truly no idea what those terms originally means.

Left wing stems from the fact that those who use to represent interests of the labor class sat on ten left hand spire of the room. Progressive just means a desire for progressive in positive change.

I am proudly a progressive left winger and hope the D party doesn’t die a slow death of “being moderate” (ie fraction of the party that thinks we are all good and no change needed).

Democrats have abandoned labor and support the desires of the laptop class.

You will have literally nothing to back this up with. Meanwhile the GOP actually hates labor and the working class, really anything that gives regular people any rights at all, they’re opposed to it.

You can’t be pro-labor and support open borders. Open borders are a disaster for the working classes.

Then why didn't the GOP support their own immigration reform bill?

You also realize there are two million open jobs right now in the US. There aren't jobs being taken by illegal immigrants from American born workers. You don't hear some midwestern 20 year old complaining that some "illegal" took his slaughterhouse job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a moderate Dem I'm super amused by the narrative that the Democratic party is so radical. I know everyone has a crush on AOC, but the fact she exists doesn't mean she sets party policy. The fact that gaza protesters at Columbia aren't republicans doesn't mean they're Democratic powerbrokers.

The mainstream of today's Democratic party are basically Reagan Republicans. Tough on crime, include middle-class in tax cuts, reduce federal headcount, spend heavily on military and it relies heavily on the backing of pretty much all major business except the oil industry. But the democratic party also refuses to take any steps on climate change.

They're so MILD it's insane. I can't stand what sticks in the mud they are, but an administration that would historically be considered right of center and business-as-usual would be a relief these days.

I guess you missed the billions of dollars the Dems passed under Biden to deal with climate change - uniformly opposed by the GOP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a moderate Rep who truly despises extreme left ideologies just as much as extreme right ideologies I am the one who feels hopeless with the ever-dividing extremism our society has evolved to, and you can blame the Democrats just as much as the Republicans. Both are equally to blame.

Mitt Romney lost. I don't think president Obama was terrible, but I think Romney would have been extremely unifying in a "moderate" that crosses aisles way.

Bain executive who cost this county hundreds of thousands of jobs and pro-life.

No thanks.

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Again, that’s your opinion. But what kind of monster would you be if you thought abortion was murder and you didn’t want to “force your values on others”? From a moral and ethical standpoint, you would be a terrible person for not trying to get people to stop killing unborn babies if you thought that was what was happening.

Dems should just to full Bill Maher and admit abortion is murder but it’s okay because we don’t need more people in the world and children are annoying anyway. No joke, he actually said this.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a registered independent who truly struggled to decide who to vote for in many past elections including Obama/mcCain (though Sarah palin made up my mind for me).

The fact that Donald Trump was the republican nominee after being caught on camera bragging about sexually assaulting women in his previous election and is once again the nominee after the events of January 6th has completely destroyed my faith in every current republican politician. They have well and truly sold their souls. If they clean house in a few years I’ll consider voting for a republican again then.

Bill Clinton said and did equally disgusting sexually exploitative behaviors and I am old enough to recall Democrats in the House and Senate saying, “This isn’t relevant to Clinton’s presidential job performance.”

My, my, what a difference a couple of decades makes. Or a change of party registration in the sexually harassing party.

And he was impeached for it and basically tarnished his legacy. We also didn't have Clinton on tape boasting of sexual assault and predatory behavior before he was elected.

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“It’s murder, but I’m okay with that” is a refreshingly honest thing to say.