White House 'Strongly Opposes' Proposed 19.5% Pay Hike for Junior Enlisted Troops

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like any issue, IMO people need to do more research.

Using the calculator on military.com, an E3 with 3 years of service in the DC area with dependents is getting $71,328 annually, including their housing allowance.

If they live on base then the housing allowance goes away but they are essentially living for free in base housing. They (and their dependents) get practically free health/dental/vision care, spouse gets hiring priority for U.S. government jobs, and childcare is ridiculously low.

That's a pretty good deal for someone who (traditionally) is in their early 20s, married and may have a kid or two.

You are clueless. There isn’t enough on base housing for military members serving in DC area bases. And there isn’t enough childcare either. Only a very small portion are able to get into the on base childcare center. Most military members in DC have to live off base and find their own childcare.

I'm not clueless. I also don't have DC-focused glasses on and have a much broader view.

I've got 28 years of service under my belt. Lived CONUS, OCONUS, on base and off base. It may be an issue in DC but not everywhere else. Fixing housing allowances is a better option than a 19+% across the board pay hike.

IMO, part of the problem is young enlisted troops get married and start popping out kids one after another, or they get married to someone who already has a couple of kids and wants to be a SAHP. The troops primarily do it because they don't want to live in barracks.

I've seen far too many cases of a 19-22 year olds in parenting situations where they simply are not ready. Throw in a deployment and a young spouse who can't handle multiple kids, can't handle the money, lives off base, and has no family support system, and it's a disaster.

As for childcare, there are waitlists based on rank and number of dependents. And guess what? That's pretty much the SOP for childcare for everyone! There are waitlists.

I just don't find it justifiable to provide blank checks for military service. Sure, it's tough. But guess what? There are firefighters, teachers, EMTs, law enforcement, electric linemen, elder caregivers, and garbage collectors who often do dangerous, thankless and dirty work, too. Imagine if we didn't have any of those professions. Many, many teachers in the US are making about $30K. Firefighters make a smidge above that. They have to pay their own housing, child care, health insurance, dental/vision, education, prescriptions, and groceries, and if they want to purchase a home they need a down payment and will have to pay the going mortgage rates.

Should they pay more in taxes so an E-4 with a spouse and kids doesn't have to pick up the tab for ANY of their living expenses? Let's hear how you would sell that one...

Since military housing and childcare is short everywhere, why are you even arguing that as a benefit and rationale why a raise isn’t warranted. And nice use of acronyms, you sure showed everyone how service seasoned you are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like any issue, IMO people need to do more research.

Using the calculator on military.com, an E3 with 3 years of service in the DC area with dependents is getting $71,328 annually, including their housing allowance.

If they live on base then the housing allowance goes away but they are essentially living for free in base housing. They (and their dependents) get practically free health/dental/vision care, spouse gets hiring priority for U.S. government jobs, and childcare is ridiculously low.

That's a pretty good deal for someone who (traditionally) is in their early 20s, married and may have a kid or two.

You are clueless. There isn’t enough on base housing for military members serving in DC area bases. And there isn’t enough childcare either. Only a very small portion are able to get into the on base childcare center. Most military members in DC have to live off base and find their own childcare.

I'm not clueless. I also don't have DC-focused glasses on and have a much broader view.

I've got 28 years of service under my belt. Lived CONUS, OCONUS, on base and off base. It may be an issue in DC but not everywhere else. Fixing housing allowances is a better option than a 19+% across the board pay hike.

IMO, part of the problem is young enlisted troops get married and start popping out kids one after another, or they get married to someone who already has a couple of kids and wants to be a SAHP. The troops primarily do it because they don't want to live in barracks.

I've seen far too many cases of a 19-22 year olds in parenting situations where they simply are not ready. Throw in a deployment and a young spouse who can't handle multiple kids, can't handle the money, lives off base, and has no family support system, and it's a disaster.

As for childcare, there are waitlists based on rank and number of dependents. And guess what? That's pretty much the SOP for childcare for everyone! There are waitlists.

I just don't find it justifiable to provide blank checks for military service. Sure, it's tough. But guess what? There are firefighters, teachers, EMTs, law enforcement, electric linemen, elder caregivers, and garbage collectors who often do dangerous, thankless and dirty work, too. Imagine if we didn't have any of those professions. Many, many teachers in the US are making about $30K. Firefighters make a smidge above that. They have to pay their own housing, child care, health insurance, dental/vision, education, prescriptions, and groceries, and if they want to purchase a home they need a down payment and will have to pay the going mortgage rates.

Should they pay more in taxes so an E-4 with a spouse and kids doesn't have to pick up the tab for ANY of their living expenses? Let's hear how you would sell that one...

No way anyone that actually served even a day wouldn’t advocate for an enlisted personnel raise- or need to look up the pay scale. It’s clear you no nothing about military service, as it is in no way comparable to the work done by firefighters and nurses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like any issue, IMO people need to do more research.

Using the calculator on military.com, an E3 with 3 years of service in the DC area with dependents is getting $71,328 annually, including their housing allowance.

If they live on base then the housing allowance goes away but they are essentially living for free in base housing. They (and their dependents) get practically free health/dental/vision care, spouse gets hiring priority for U.S. government jobs, and childcare is ridiculously low.

That's a pretty good deal for someone who (traditionally) is in their early 20s, married and may have a kid or two.

You are clueless. There isn’t enough on base housing for military members serving in DC area bases. And there isn’t enough childcare either. Only a very small portion are able to get into the on base childcare center. Most military members in DC have to live off base and find their own childcare.

I'm not clueless. I also don't have DC-focused glasses on and have a much broader view.

I've got 28 years of service under my belt. Lived CONUS, OCONUS, on base and off base. It may be an issue in DC but not everywhere else. Fixing housing allowances is a better option than a 19+% across the board pay hike.

IMO, part of the problem is young enlisted troops get married and start popping out kids one after another, or they get married to someone who already has a couple of kids and wants to be a SAHP. The troops primarily do it because they don't want to live in barracks.

I've seen far too many cases of a 19-22 year olds in parenting situations where they simply are not ready. Throw in a deployment and a young spouse who can't handle multiple kids, can't handle the money, lives off base, and has no family support system, and it's a disaster.

As for childcare, there are waitlists based on rank and number of dependents. And guess what? That's pretty much the SOP for childcare for everyone! There are waitlists.

I just don't find it justifiable to provide blank checks for military service. Sure, it's tough. But guess what? There are firefighters, teachers, EMTs, law enforcement, electric linemen, elder caregivers, and garbage collectors who often do dangerous, thankless and dirty work, too. Imagine if we didn't have any of those professions. Many, many teachers in the US are making about $30K. Firefighters make a smidge above that. They have to pay their own housing, child care, health insurance, dental/vision, education, prescriptions, and groceries, and if they want to purchase a home they need a down payment and will have to pay the going mortgage rates.

Should they pay more in taxes so an E-4 with a spouse and kids doesn't have to pick up the tab for ANY of their living expenses? Let's hear how you would sell that one...

No way anyone that actually served even a day wouldn’t advocate for an enlisted personnel raise- or need to look up the pay scale. It’s clear you no nothing about military service, as it is in no way comparable to the work done by firefighters and nurses.

There are scores of enlisted personnel who have not, or may not ever, deploy. Many have duties that are technical, support, equipment repair, or administrative in nature and do not rise to the level of being "dangerous."

I do know firefighters, EMTs and law enforcement who do face danger every day. These are just some of the people you are asking to open up their wallets wider and pay military troops.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like any issue, IMO people need to do more research.

Using the calculator on military.com, an E3 with 3 years of service in the DC area with dependents is getting $71,328 annually, including their housing allowance.

If they live on base then the housing allowance goes away but they are essentially living for free in base housing. They (and their dependents) get practically free health/dental/vision care, spouse gets hiring priority for U.S. government jobs, and childcare is ridiculously low.

That's a pretty good deal for someone who (traditionally) is in their early 20s, married and may have a kid or two.

You are clueless. There isn’t enough on base housing for military members serving in DC area bases. And there isn’t enough childcare either. Only a very small portion are able to get into the on base childcare center. Most military members in DC have to live off base and find their own childcare.

I'm not clueless. I also don't have DC-focused glasses on and have a much broader view.

I've got 28 years of service under my belt. Lived CONUS, OCONUS, on base and off base. It may be an issue in DC but not everywhere else. Fixing housing allowances is a better option than a 19+% across the board pay hike.

IMO, part of the problem is young enlisted troops get married and start popping out kids one after another, or they get married to someone who already has a couple of kids and wants to be a SAHP. The troops primarily do it because they don't want to live in barracks.

I've seen far too many cases of a 19-22 year olds in parenting situations where they simply are not ready. Throw in a deployment and a young spouse who can't handle multiple kids, can't handle the money, lives off base, and has no family support system, and it's a disaster.

As for childcare, there are waitlists based on rank and number of dependents. And guess what? That's pretty much the SOP for childcare for everyone! There are waitlists.

I just don't find it justifiable to provide blank checks for military service. Sure, it's tough. But guess what? There are firefighters, teachers, EMTs, law enforcement, electric linemen, elder caregivers, and garbage collectors who often do dangerous, thankless and dirty work, too. Imagine if we didn't have any of those professions. Many, many teachers in the US are making about $30K. Firefighters make a smidge above that. They have to pay their own housing, child care, health insurance, dental/vision, education, prescriptions, and groceries, and if they want to purchase a home they need a down payment and will have to pay the going mortgage rates.

Should they pay more in taxes so an E-4 with a spouse and kids doesn't have to pick up the tab for ANY of their living expenses? Let's hear how you would sell that one...

No way anyone that actually served even a day wouldn’t advocate for an enlisted personnel raise- or need to look up the pay scale. It’s clear you no nothing about military service, as it is in no way comparable to the work done by firefighters and nurses.

There are scores of enlisted personnel who have not, or may not ever, deploy. Many have duties that are technical, support, equipment repair, or administrative in nature and do not rise to the level of being "dangerous."

I do know firefighters, EMTs and law enforcement who do face danger every day. These are just some of the people you are asking to open up their wallets wider and pay military troops.

And they can quit their job at any time. They have scheduled days off or scheduled time which they are on call. They don’t work overtime and holidays without compensation. They often have unions and workers rights. Military members have to do what, when, where completely without say or question. It is not comparable to a civilian service job, sorry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like any issue, IMO people need to do more research.

Using the calculator on military.com, an E3 with 3 years of service in the DC area with dependents is getting $71,328 annually, including their housing allowance.

If they live on base then the housing allowance goes away but they are essentially living for free in base housing. They (and their dependents) get practically free health/dental/vision care, spouse gets hiring priority for U.S. government jobs, and childcare is ridiculously low.

That's a pretty good deal for someone who (traditionally) is in their early 20s, married and may have a kid or two.

You are clueless. There isn’t enough on base housing for military members serving in DC area bases. And there isn’t enough childcare either. Only a very small portion are able to get into the on base childcare center. Most military members in DC have to live off base and find their own childcare.

I'm not clueless. I also don't have DC-focused glasses on and have a much broader view.

I've got 28 years of service under my belt. Lived CONUS, OCONUS, on base and off base. It may be an issue in DC but not everywhere else. Fixing housing allowances is a better option than a 19+% across the board pay hike.

IMO, part of the problem is young enlisted troops get married and start popping out kids one after another, or they get married to someone who already has a couple of kids and wants to be a SAHP. The troops primarily do it because they don't want to live in barracks.

I've seen far too many cases of a 19-22 year olds in parenting situations where they simply are not ready. Throw in a deployment and a young spouse who can't handle multiple kids, can't handle the money, lives off base, and has no family support system, and it's a disaster.

As for childcare, there are waitlists based on rank and number of dependents. And guess what? That's pretty much the SOP for childcare for everyone! There are waitlists.

I just don't find it justifiable to provide blank checks for military service. Sure, it's tough. But guess what? There are firefighters, teachers, EMTs, law enforcement, electric linemen, elder caregivers, and garbage collectors who often do dangerous, thankless and dirty work, too. Imagine if we didn't have any of those professions. Many, many teachers in the US are making about $30K. Firefighters make a smidge above that. They have to pay their own housing, child care, health insurance, dental/vision, education, prescriptions, and groceries, and if they want to purchase a home they need a down payment and will have to pay the going mortgage rates.

Should they pay more in taxes so an E-4 with a spouse and kids doesn't have to pick up the tab for ANY of their living expenses? Let's hear how you would sell that one...

No way anyone that actually served even a day wouldn’t advocate for an enlisted personnel raise- or need to look up the pay scale. It’s clear you no nothing about military service, as it is in no way comparable to the work done by firefighters and nurses.

There are scores of enlisted personnel who have not, or may not ever, deploy. Many have duties that are technical, support, equipment repair, or administrative in nature and do not rise to the level of being "dangerous."

I do know firefighters, EMTs and law enforcement who do face danger every day. These are just some of the people you are asking to open up their wallets wider and pay military troops.

I know EMTs who sit in the parking lot of Walmart all day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like any issue, IMO people need to do more research.

Using the calculator on military.com, an E3 with 3 years of service in the DC area with dependents is getting $71,328 annually, including their housing allowance.

If they live on base then the housing allowance goes away but they are essentially living for free in base housing. They (and their dependents) get practically free health/dental/vision care, spouse gets hiring priority for U.S. government jobs, and childcare is ridiculously low.

That's a pretty good deal for someone who (traditionally) is in their early 20s, married and may have a kid or two.

You are clueless. There isn’t enough on base housing for military members serving in DC area bases. And there isn’t enough childcare either. Only a very small portion are able to get into the on base childcare center. Most military members in DC have to live off base and find their own childcare.

I'm not clueless. I also don't have DC-focused glasses on and have a much broader view.

I've got 28 years of service under my belt. Lived CONUS, OCONUS, on base and off base. It may be an issue in DC but not everywhere else. Fixing housing allowances is a better option than a 19+% across the board pay hike.

IMO, part of the problem is young enlisted troops get married and start popping out kids one after another, or they get married to someone who already has a couple of kids and wants to be a SAHP. The troops primarily do it because they don't want to live in barracks.

I've seen far too many cases of a 19-22 year olds in parenting situations where they simply are not ready. Throw in a deployment and a young spouse who can't handle multiple kids, can't handle the money, lives off base, and has no family support system, and it's a disaster.

As for childcare, there are waitlists based on rank and number of dependents. And guess what? That's pretty much the SOP for childcare for everyone! There are waitlists.

I just don't find it justifiable to provide blank checks for military service. Sure, it's tough. But guess what? There are firefighters, teachers, EMTs, law enforcement, electric linemen, elder caregivers, and garbage collectors who often do dangerous, thankless and dirty work, too. Imagine if we didn't have any of those professions. Many, many teachers in the US are making about $30K. Firefighters make a smidge above that. They have to pay their own housing, child care, health insurance, dental/vision, education, prescriptions, and groceries, and if they want to purchase a home they need a down payment and will have to pay the going mortgage rates.

Should they pay more in taxes so an E-4 with a spouse and kids doesn't have to pick up the tab for ANY of their living expenses? Let's hear how you would sell that one...

No way anyone that actually served even a day wouldn’t advocate for an enlisted personnel raise- or need to look up the pay scale. It’s clear you no nothing about military service, as it is in no way comparable to the work done by firefighters and nurses.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like any issue, IMO people need to do more research.

Using the calculator on military.com, an E3 with 3 years of service in the DC area with dependents is getting $71,328 annually, including their housing allowance.

If they live on base then the housing allowance goes away but they are essentially living for free in base housing. They (and their dependents) get practically free health/dental/vision care, spouse gets hiring priority for U.S. government jobs, and childcare is ridiculously low.

That's a pretty good deal for someone who (traditionally) is in their early 20s, married and may have a kid or two.

You are clueless. There isn’t enough on base housing for military members serving in DC area bases. And there isn’t enough childcare either. Only a very small portion are able to get into the on base childcare center. Most military members in DC have to live off base and find their own childcare.

I'm not clueless. I also don't have DC-focused glasses on and have a much broader view.

I've got 28 years of service under my belt. Lived CONUS, OCONUS, on base and off base. It may be an issue in DC but not everywhere else. Fixing housing allowances is a better option than a 19+% across the board pay hike.

IMO, part of the problem is young enlisted troops get married and start popping out kids one after another, or they get married to someone who already has a couple of kids and wants to be a SAHP. The troops primarily do it because they don't want to live in barracks.

I've seen far too many cases of a 19-22 year olds in parenting situations where they simply are not ready. Throw in a deployment and a young spouse who can't handle multiple kids, can't handle the money, lives off base, and has no family support system, and it's a disaster.

As for childcare, there are waitlists based on rank and number of dependents. And guess what? That's pretty much the SOP for childcare for everyone! There are waitlists.

I just don't find it justifiable to provide blank checks for military service. Sure, it's tough. But guess what? There are firefighters, teachers, EMTs, law enforcement, electric linemen, elder caregivers, and garbage collectors who often do dangerous, thankless and dirty work, too. Imagine if we didn't have any of those professions. Many, many teachers in the US are making about $30K. Firefighters make a smidge above that. They have to pay their own housing, child care, health insurance, dental/vision, education, prescriptions, and groceries, and if they want to purchase a home they need a down payment and will have to pay the going mortgage rates.

Should they pay more in taxes so an E-4 with a spouse and kids doesn't have to pick up the tab for ANY of their living expenses? Let's hear how you would sell that one...

Military personnel pay taxes too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like any issue, IMO people need to do more research.

Using the calculator on military.com, an E3 with 3 years of service in the DC area with dependents is getting $71,328 annually, including their housing allowance.

If they live on base then the housing allowance goes away but they are essentially living for free in base housing. They (and their dependents) get practically free health/dental/vision care, spouse gets hiring priority for U.S. government jobs, and childcare is ridiculously low.

That's a pretty good deal for someone who (traditionally) is in their early 20s, married and may have a kid or two.

You are clueless. There isn’t enough on base housing for military members serving in DC area bases. And there isn’t enough childcare either. Only a very small portion are able to get into the on base childcare center. Most military members in DC have to live off base and find their own childcare.

I'm not clueless. I also don't have DC-focused glasses on and have a much broader view.

I've got 28 years of service under my belt. Lived CONUS, OCONUS, on base and off base. It may be an issue in DC but not everywhere else. Fixing housing allowances is a better option than a 19+% across the board pay hike.

IMO, part of the problem is young enlisted troops get married and start popping out kids one after another, or they get married to someone who already has a couple of kids and wants to be a SAHP. The troops primarily do it because they don't want to live in barracks.

I've seen far too many cases of a 19-22 year olds in parenting situations where they simply are not ready. Throw in a deployment and a young spouse who can't handle multiple kids, can't handle the money, lives off base, and has no family support system, and it's a disaster.

As for childcare, there are waitlists based on rank and number of dependents. And guess what? That's pretty much the SOP for childcare for everyone! There are waitlists.

I just don't find it justifiable to provide blank checks for military service. Sure, it's tough. But guess what? There are firefighters, teachers, EMTs, law enforcement, electric linemen, elder caregivers, and garbage collectors who often do dangerous, thankless and dirty work, too. Imagine if we didn't have any of those professions. Many, many teachers in the US are making about $30K. Firefighters make a smidge above that. They have to pay their own housing, child care, health insurance, dental/vision, education, prescriptions, and groceries, and if they want to purchase a home they need a down payment and will have to pay the going mortgage rates.

Should they pay more in taxes so an E-4 with a spouse and kids doesn't have to pick up the tab for ANY of their living expenses? Let's hear how you would sell that one...

If Military service is so lush with benefits and compensation, why is there a recruiting crisis?


PAPER: RECRUITING CRISIS IS NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT
https://www.ausa.org/news/paper-recruiting-crisis-national-security-threat


Tue, 01/23/2024 - 07:33
The Army’s recruiting crisis, the most substantial since the creation of the all-volunteer force 50 years ago, is a threat to U.S. national security and will require a “whole-of-nation effort” to be reversed, according to the authors of a new paper published by the Association of the U.S. Army.

The Army has seen significant recruiting shortfalls for at least the past two years. In fiscal 2022, the service missed by 15,000 its goal of recruiting 60,000 new soldiers. In fiscal 2023, with an ambitious goal of recruiting 65,000 new soldiers, the Army fell short by 10,000. The current Regular Army end strength of 452,000 is “the smallest since before World War II,” the authors write.

Army senior leaders are considering significant reductions to force structure to avoid a “hollow” Army with undermanned and ineffective formations, the authors write.

The Military should be flush with recruits if it’s such a great opportunity to have medical/dental, housing allowance, job assistance for spouses, etc.

But it’s not, because it’s a very hard life and the benefits aren’t enough.

Anyway, Biden should listen to his senior enlisted personnel and the Armed Service Committee. They are the experts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like any issue, IMO people need to do more research.

Using the calculator on military.com, an E3 with 3 years of service in the DC area with dependents is getting $71,328 annually, including their housing allowance.

If they live on base then the housing allowance goes away but they are essentially living for free in base housing. They (and their dependents) get practically free health/dental/vision care, spouse gets hiring priority for U.S. government jobs, and childcare is ridiculously low.

That's a pretty good deal for someone who (traditionally) is in their early 20s, married and may have a kid or two.

You are clueless. There isn’t enough on base housing for military members serving in DC area bases. And there isn’t enough childcare either. Only a very small portion are able to get into the on base childcare center. Most military members in DC have to live off base and find their own childcare.

I'm not clueless. I also don't have DC-focused glasses on and have a much broader view.

I've got 28 years of service under my belt. Lived CONUS, OCONUS, on base and off base. It may be an issue in DC but not everywhere else. Fixing housing allowances is a better option than a 19+% across the board pay hike.

IMO, part of the problem is young enlisted troops get married and start popping out kids one after another, or they get married to someone who already has a couple of kids and wants to be a SAHP. The troops primarily do it because they don't want to live in barracks.

I've seen far too many cases of a 19-22 year olds in parenting situations where they simply are not ready. Throw in a deployment and a young spouse who can't handle multiple kids, can't handle the money, lives off base, and has no family support system, and it's a disaster.

As for childcare, there are waitlists based on rank and number of dependents. And guess what? That's pretty much the SOP for childcare for everyone! There are waitlists.

I just don't find it justifiable to provide blank checks for military service. Sure, it's tough. But guess what? There are firefighters, teachers, EMTs, law enforcement, electric linemen, elder caregivers, and garbage collectors who often do dangerous, thankless and dirty work, too. Imagine if we didn't have any of those professions. Many, many teachers in the US are making about $30K. Firefighters make a smidge above that. They have to pay their own housing, child care, health insurance, dental/vision, education, prescriptions, and groceries, and if they want to purchase a home they need a down payment and will have to pay the going mortgage rates.

Should they pay more in taxes so an E-4 with a spouse and kids doesn't have to pick up the tab for ANY of their living expenses? Let's hear how you would sell that one...

No way anyone that actually served even a day wouldn’t advocate for an enlisted personnel raise- or need to look up the pay scale. It’s clear you no nothing about military service, as it is in no way comparable to the work done by firefighters and nurses.

There are scores of enlisted personnel who have not, or may not ever, deploy. Many have duties that are technical, support, equipment repair, or administrative in nature and do not rise to the level of being "dangerous."

I do know firefighters, EMTs and law enforcement who do face danger every day. These are just some of the people you are asking to open up their wallets wider and pay military troops.

Our government gives billions away in foreign aid. The government can deduct the amount needed from foreign aid and move the money to take care of our Military. Easy. Nobody has to pay more taxes.

We should be outraged that taxpayers are paying taxes to give the money away to other countries when our own Military personnel are paying out of pocket for housing.

[Anonymous]

Biden has billions of dollars for Ukraine and Israel but thinks a pay increase for our enlisted is too much?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Biden has billions of dollars for Ukraine and Israel but thinks a pay increase for our enlisted is too much?

Are you honestly surprised?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden has billions of dollars for Ukraine and Israel but thinks a pay increase for our enlisted is too much?

Are you honestly surprised?

Good point

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Biden has billions of dollars for Ukraine and Israel but thinks a pay increase for our enlisted is too much?

It's not an either/or situation. The national security budget is more than a trillion per year.

But DoD, Congress, and the White House do need to undertake a serious overhaul of compensation and benefits for soldiers - to attract quality enlisted personnel, to retain good officers, and so on and so forth. Everyone worth keeping has options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Biden has billions of dollars for Ukraine and Israel but thinks a pay increase for our enlisted is too much?

+1000
It's astoundingly shameful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden has billions of dollars for Ukraine and Israel but thinks a pay increase for our enlisted is too much?

+1000
It's astoundingly shameful.

As Jill Biden describes herself as a military mom. The Biden family is all about them. Their lives, their family. meanwhile Military families are suffering while we have billions for foreign aid and illegal immigrants. It’s sickening.