Why do parents have such an issue with DEIB

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because a major political organization decided the only way they could win elections was through lies, untruths, and deception. Dividing people and sowing chaos helps them too. They’ve been doing it since the civil rights movement and this is just their latest, greatest attempt to continue in that vein. A good percentage of you all fall for it every time, but you know, why not make America great again?


You're describing both political parties amazingly well here.


Exactly! I can’t tell which political party that PP was jabbing at. I used to be pretty liberal, but with this DEI stuffs forced down my throat and being called names if I question any part of it, I’ve moved to moderate and independent now. Both MAGA and DEI are extreme fascists, and hated by the majority of the population.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Still, nine entire pages later. Nobody has provided any proof or detailed explanation of how DEIB is ruining your life.

There are lots of fabrications that can't be proven, and "it's getting shoved down our throats," but not a single real justification for the hate.

[qoute]At our DMV private that pushes DEI down our throats, one student stated in health class — where the MS students were learning about healthy food choices — that using the terms “red meat” (a la beef) and “white meat” (a la chicken) was “racist”


This never happened, but there are a lot of parents that will believe this. People can't be those simple.


Then agree to disagree. Nobody need to provide you with proof because you will never be convince anyway. You can keep your DEIB going strong at your school but leave everyone else do determine what works best at their school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Still, nine entire pages later. Nobody has provided any proof or detailed explanation of how DEIB is ruining your life.

There are lots of fabrications that can't be proven, and "it's getting shoved down our throats," but not a single real justification for the hate.


1. This doesn't exist.

2. Okay but it only happened a couple of times.

3. Okay it happens constantly but you deserve it because you're racist.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Still, nine entire pages later. Nobody has provided any proof or detailed explanation of how DEIB is ruining your life.

There are lots of fabrications that can't be proven, and "it's getting shoved down our throats," but not a single real justification for the hate.


1. This doesn't exist.

2. Okay but it only happened a couple of times.

3. Okay it happens constantly but you deserve it because you're racist.


Exactly. There have been several examples of DEI nonsense posted, so we’ll move to #2 next.
Anonymous
Here’s an example: In my daughters high school physics class, 25% of the grade on a lab assignment is based on answering a question on a social justice topic - they have to give their opinion on something like the BLM movement etc. This is at a top local private high school and is a regular occurrence. This is the kind of stuff that angers parents like me. Physics class should be for physics. Leave social justice issues for affinity groups, social studies, heck maybe even English. But can we please stick to science in science???
Anonymous
People are saying bizarre shit about their schools. I also an not asking about your jobs. This is about schools.

But I do know that a law firm isn't going to care.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Looking at you DCPS.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10780375/DC-elementary-school-gave-presentation-helped-identify-racists-family.html


My goodness, what a bunch of garbage.

“So if a Black person says something mean to a white person, he has no power over him. It's as if white people walk around with an invisible force field because they hold all of the power in America.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Still, nine entire pages later. Nobody has provided any proof or detailed explanation of how DEIB is ruining your life.

There are lots of fabrications that can't be proven, and "it's getting shoved down our throats," but not a single real justification for the hate.

[qoute]At our DMV private that pushes DEI down our throats, one student stated in health class — where the MS students were learning about healthy food choices — that using the terms “red meat” (a la beef) and “white meat” (a la chicken) was “racist”


This never happened, but there are a lot of parents that will believe this. People can't be those simple.


And the DCUM Gaslighter of the Week Award goes to- this poster!!
Anonymous
Posters keep sharing their experiences, and someone keeps replying "this never happened." Who are you to refute someone else's experience and say "prove it"? How about you prove it didn't happen?

My worry is that DEIB is having the opposite of its intended effect. It has alienated so many who were enthusiastic supporters just a few years ago. I'm one of them.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Posters keep sharing their experiences, and someone keeps replying "this never happened." Who are you to refute someone else's experience and say "prove it"? How about you prove it didn't happen?

My worry is that DEIB is having the opposite of its intended effect. It has alienated so many who were enthusiastic supporters just a few years ago. I'm one of them.



+1

I am following these discussions closely not because I oppose the aim of DEI - to the contrary I am disturbed because I can see the current approach is not working, and very much want us as a society to get this right. Shouting down those who offer different viewpoints only hurts the end goal.
Anonymous
If you want to get rid of the name DEI, fine, but the numerous legitimate and incredible purposes of DEI then need to be incorporated into some other office (perhaps, curriculum and instruction).

DEI got out of control because of white guilt. People couldn’t handle the sight of numerous innocent lifeless black bodies murdered by white hands. Now that some time has passed, the guilt has dissipated and you want to “fix” things back to how they were before because you are uncomfortable. But black and brown bodies are still dying due to prejudice and yes, racism, that still exists.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you want to get rid of the name DEI, fine, but the numerous legitimate and incredible purposes of DEI then need to be incorporated into some other office (perhaps, curriculum and instruction).

DEI got out of control because of white guilt. People couldn’t handle the sight of numerous innocent lifeless black bodies murdered by white hands. Now that some time has passed, the guilt has dissipated and you want to “fix” things back to how they were before because you are uncomfortable. But black and brown bodies are still dying due to prejudice and yes, racism, that still exists.




Black bodies? Wtf? I feel no guilt about what people unrelated to me did in the past.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you want to get rid of the name DEI, fine, but the numerous legitimate and incredible purposes of DEI then need to be incorporated into some other office (perhaps, curriculum and instruction).

DEI got out of control because of white guilt. People couldn’t handle the sight of numerous innocent lifeless black bodies murdered by white hands. Now that some time has passed, the guilt has dissipated and you want to “fix” things back to how they were before because you are uncomfortable. But black and brown bodies are still dying due to prejudice and yes, racism, that still exists.


There are solutions to the problem of black people dying disproportionately, both at police hands and each others'. None of them involve training seminars.
Anonymous
Admittedly, I don’t think social justice needs to be incorporated into every single physics lab (that sounds silly), but occasionally why not?

Why not highlight more female scientists or mathematicians (or black or brown or Asian ones) in class given that science texts tend to ignore their contributions?

White men used to run this country and they took 100% of the credit for everything great that happened when they were not 100% responsible for everything great that happened.

That lie still exists in print and responsible educators SHOULD be integrating the untold stories of Americans into coursework.
DEI helps to facilitate and bring attention to this aspect of education.

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