How proud are you to be an American?

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Anonymous wrote:I am embarrassed by Hamas supporting/anti-Israel Americans. They don’t understand that Israel shares American values. They think the Palestinians are oppressed and Jews are oppressors. Laughable ignorance.

Genocide and segregation? Yes, the USA has a history of both. I hope we as a nation has moved beyond that. Unfortunately, Israel is still practicing such atrocities. Shame.

Is this the point at which we discuss the atrocities toward gay men and women that are still being practiced and supported in Palestine, or no?

We are talking about the USA. Stop trying to gaslight and whataboutism. Put on your big girl panties and stand on your own without saying, "but mommy, Johnny does so and so , whine"

No thank you. Not when I have a gay child and the Israelis are standing in the way of this practice being put into place “from the river to the sea”

Are you in freaking Israel? Is your child in Gaza? Get a freaking grip. Your gay child can be bullied and killed in the good old USA. Your trans kid can be denied services in, wait for it, most states in the USA. Again, stop with the whataboutism of Gaza when you write nonsense that the USA and Israel share the same values. What values are those exactly. Do you mean dropping bombs on 10 year old kids? Do you mean taking out all the hospitals in the area after dropping the bombs on the 12 year old kids? What are those values that are shared. With that said, Biden needs to go for supporting these atrocities. Again this thread is about the USA and typical of so many on DCUM, you've made it about Israel. Please understand that Israel is not the be all for most Americans. Just is not and I don't care how many times you want us to make it so, it is not. So let's get back to the topic about being an American and not an Israeli or Gazan. Jeeze, the entitlement and look at me mentality.

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War is hell. It always has been, it always will be. Just as different groups of humans always have and always will compete with each other (often violently) for finite resources. Most other groups in this world do NOT share your delusion that we are living in some utopia where everyone gets along and plays nice. I suggest you study some history and start worrying about preserving your way of life for your own people rather than worrying about some other people who (sorry to be the one to tell you) could not give less of a **** about you and your “values”.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a good life but currently, I'm mortally embarrassed to be American because of our political situation. We're smarter than this.

Are we?

Because right now it’s looking like Trump is going to win the GOP primary.

Oh please. You all want him to win. The entire media is in simultaneous salivating/panic mode over it. Salivating that he will clench the nomination so they can have ratings bonanza talking about him nonstop again for the next six months. And panic that they might cause him to win again because they have learned absolutely nothing from ignoring voters last time.

^ Here is an example of Americans not being “smarter than this”. So embarrassing.

Oh hey that’s a great strategy. Insult and talk down to those who aren’t in lockstep with your political ideaology. That always works out well.

We know from experience that it’s worthless to reason with irrational people.

The fact that Trump is winning primaries shows us that we are not “smarter than this”. We have millions of proudly ignorant people in this country.

Nope. Not ignorant people. Lots of folks who are fed up with the left and making a statement (that the left refuses to listen to) - we’d rather vote for Trump than any of the garbage you’re offering up. And honestly, I get it.

You’re proving my point.

And yet, you still won’t change. Interesting.

What is it you all actually stand for other than hating the libs?

You seriously have to ask? How about harsher criminal punishments instead of letting the jacka$$es run amok in dc (and many other areas in the US). And tightening up the borders, to start?

Crime is down dramatically nationwide. Whatever are you prattling on about?

And we NEED immigration.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a good life but currently, I'm mortally embarrassed to be American because of our political situation. We're smarter than this.

Are we?

Because right now it’s looking like Trump is going to win the GOP primary.

Oh please. You all want him to win. The entire media is in simultaneous salivating/panic mode over it. Salivating that he will clench the nomination so they can have ratings bonanza talking about him nonstop again for the next six months. And panic that they might cause him to win again because they have learned absolutely nothing from ignoring voters last time.

^ Here is an example of Americans not being “smarter than this”. So embarrassing.

Oh hey that’s a great strategy. Insult and talk down to those who aren’t in lockstep with your political ideaology. That always works out well.

We know from experience that it’s worthless to reason with irrational people.

The fact that Trump is winning primaries shows us that we are not “smarter than this”. We have millions of proudly ignorant people in this country.

Nope. Not ignorant people. Lots of folks who are fed up with the left and making a statement (that the left refuses to listen to) - we’d rather vote for Trump than any of the garbage you’re offering up. And honestly, I get it.

You’re proving my point.

And yet, you still won’t change. Interesting.

What is it you all actually stand for other than hating the libs?

You seriously have to ask? How about harsher criminal punishments instead of letting the jacka$$es run amok in dc (and many other areas in the US). And tightening up the borders, to start?

You mean like the ones who stormed the capitol or your former president. SUre, I'm all for not letting the criminals run amock. Lets start with them.

If you’re comparing the participants of Jan 6 with carjackers, drug dealers and murderers, there is no rational conversation to be had here.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a good life but currently, I'm mortally embarrassed to be American because of our political situation. We're smarter than this.

Are we?

Because right now it’s looking like Trump is going to win the GOP primary.

Oh please. You all want him to win. The entire media is in simultaneous salivating/panic mode over it. Salivating that he will clench the nomination so they can have ratings bonanza talking about him nonstop again for the next six months. And panic that they might cause him to win again because they have learned absolutely nothing from ignoring voters last time.

^ Here is an example of Americans not being “smarter than this”. So embarrassing.

Oh hey that’s a great strategy. Insult and talk down to those who aren’t in lockstep with your political ideaology. That always works out well.

We know from experience that it’s worthless to reason with irrational people.

The fact that Trump is winning primaries shows us that we are not “smarter than this”. We have millions of proudly ignorant people in this country.

Nope. Not ignorant people. Lots of folks who are fed up with the left and making a statement (that the left refuses to listen to) - we’d rather vote for Trump than any of the garbage you’re offering up. And honestly, I get it.

You’re proving my point.

And yet, you still won’t change. Interesting.

What is it you all actually stand for other than hating the libs?

You seriously have to ask? How about harsher criminal punishments instead of letting the jacka$$es run amok in dc (and many other areas in the US). And tightening up the borders, to start?

Crime is down dramatically nationwide. Whatever are you prattling on about?

And we NEED immigration.

We need LEGAL immigration. You forgot that very important word.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a good life but currently, I'm mortally embarrassed to be American because of our political situation. We're smarter than this.

Are we?

Because right now it’s looking like Trump is going to win the GOP primary.

Oh please. You all want him to win. The entire media is in simultaneous salivating/panic mode over it. Salivating that he will clench the nomination so they can have ratings bonanza talking about him nonstop again for the next six months. And panic that they might cause him to win again because they have learned absolutely nothing from ignoring voters last time.

^ Here is an example of Americans not being “smarter than this”. So embarrassing.

Oh hey that’s a great strategy. Insult and talk down to those who aren’t in lockstep with your political ideaology. That always works out well.

We know from experience that it’s worthless to reason with irrational people.

The fact that Trump is winning primaries shows us that we are not “smarter than this”. We have millions of proudly ignorant people in this country.

Nope. Not ignorant people. Lots of folks who are fed up with the left and making a statement (that the left refuses to listen to) - we’d rather vote for Trump than any of the garbage you’re offering up. And honestly, I get it.

You’re proving my point.

And yet, you still won’t change. Interesting.

What is it you all actually stand for other than hating the libs?

You seriously have to ask? How about harsher criminal punishments instead of letting the jacka$$es run amok in dc (and many other areas in the US). And tightening up the borders, to start?

You mean like the ones who stormed the capitol or your former president. SUre, I'm all for not letting the criminals run amock. Lets start with them.

If you’re comparing the participants of Jan 6 with carjackers, drug dealers and murderers, there is no rational conversation to be had here.

I absolutely am! They broke the law. Therefore, they are criminals.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread makes me very sad for the men and women who lost their lives defending your right to express your inexplicable ingratitude at your ridiculously good fortune to be living in the greatest country in the world during arguably THE greatest time to be living here before you—for any person of any race, ethnicity, or sexual orientation.

Not even close babe.

Really?
There was a better time to be an American for people of color? For women?
Oh do tell…when was that???

Put your glasses on please, you missed the bolded which is what I was replying to

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Anonymous wrote:I have a good life but currently, I'm mortally embarrassed to be American because of our political situation. We're smarter than this.

Are we?

Because right now it’s looking like Trump is going to win the GOP primary.

Oh please. You all want him to win. The entire media is in simultaneous salivating/panic mode over it. Salivating that he will clench the nomination so they can have ratings bonanza talking about him nonstop again for the next six months. And panic that they might cause him to win again because they have learned absolutely nothing from ignoring voters last time.

^ Here is an example of Americans not being “smarter than this”. So embarrassing.

Oh hey that’s a great strategy. Insult and talk down to those who aren’t in lockstep with your political ideaology. That always works out well.

We know from experience that it’s worthless to reason with irrational people.

The fact that Trump is winning primaries shows us that we are not “smarter than this”. We have millions of proudly ignorant people in this country.

Nope. Not ignorant people. Lots of folks who are fed up with the left and making a statement (that the left refuses to listen to) - we’d rather vote for Trump than any of the garbage you’re offering up. And honestly, I get it.

You’re proving my point.

And yet, you still won’t change. Interesting.

What is it you all actually stand for other than hating the libs?

You seriously have to ask? How about harsher criminal punishments instead of letting the jacka$$es run amok in dc (and many other areas in the US). And tightening up the borders, to start?

Crime is down dramatically nationwide. Whatever are you prattling on about?

And we NEED immigration.

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Crime is up in Kansas City, Cleveland and Memphis. Just to name three.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a good life but currently, I'm mortally embarrassed to be American because of our political situation. We're smarter than this.

Are we?

Because right now it’s looking like Trump is going to win the GOP primary.

Oh please. You all want him to win. The entire media is in simultaneous salivating/panic mode over it. Salivating that he will clench the nomination so they can have ratings bonanza talking about him nonstop again for the next six months. And panic that they might cause him to win again because they have learned absolutely nothing from ignoring voters last time.

^ Here is an example of Americans not being “smarter than this”. So embarrassing.

Oh hey that’s a great strategy. Insult and talk down to those who aren’t in lockstep with your political ideaology. That always works out well.

We know from experience that it’s worthless to reason with irrational people.

The fact that Trump is winning primaries shows us that we are not “smarter than this”. We have millions of proudly ignorant people in this country.

Nope. Not ignorant people. Lots of folks who are fed up with the left and making a statement (that the left refuses to listen to) - we’d rather vote for Trump than any of the garbage you’re offering up. And honestly, I get it.

You’re proving my point.

And yet, you still won’t change. Interesting.

What is it you all actually stand for other than hating the libs?

You seriously have to ask? How about harsher criminal punishments instead of letting the jacka$$es run amok in dc (and many other areas in the US). And tightening up the borders, to start?

You mean like the ones who stormed the capitol or your former president. SUre, I'm all for not letting the criminals run amock. Lets start with them.

If you’re comparing the participants of Jan 6 with carjackers, drug dealers and murderers, there is no rational conversation to be had here.

I absolutely am! They broke the law. Therefore, they are criminals.

And you think this makes your point look…reasonable? Lord almighty if this is the nonsense coming from some parts of the left we really are doomed.

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Why should I be proud of an accident? America does some things well, but does many other things horribly. I mean, half this country are completely ill magahats. That's embarrassing AF. We are rich yet we don't take care of our people.

And what are we supposed to be proud of? Our land? Our government? Our people? What does that even mean?

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Anonymous wrote:Very proud to be an American. Would rather be an American than anything else. Without a doubt the rest of the world sucks.

Do we have issues and problems? Sure. But this is the best place with the most freedom. Is that unequal? Of course. But we work on that as we have.

We lead the world not by force although we could. We lead based on our ideals and what we aim for ever if we do not get it.

We are the only country that matters in the world. The only essential country.

We don’t get it right all the time but that is also part of what makes me proud to be an American.

The United States of America ranks 17 on the Human Freedom Index. https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/2023-12/human-freedom-index-2023-full-revised.pdf

The country with the most freedom is Switzerland, followed by New Zealand and then Denmark.

How many of those countries would be free if America hadn’t entered WW II and fought for freedom? How many would be free if we hadn’t formed NATO to defend freedom? How many would be free if we hadn’t set the precedent with our revolution that the divine right of kings could not only be defied and overcome, but that the people could form a stable government and rule themselves?

If you have to go all the way back to the American Revolution, you need to stop and thank France first. Without the assistance of the French, Washington and his fellow colonialists were losing.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a good life but currently, I'm mortally embarrassed to be American because of our political situation. We're smarter than this.

Are we?

Because right now it’s looking like Trump is going to win the GOP primary.

Oh please. You all want him to win. The entire media is in simultaneous salivating/panic mode over it. Salivating that he will clench the nomination so they can have ratings bonanza talking about him nonstop again for the next six months. And panic that they might cause him to win again because they have learned absolutely nothing from ignoring voters last time.

^ Here is an example of Americans not being “smarter than this”. So embarrassing.

Oh hey that’s a great strategy. Insult and talk down to those who aren’t in lockstep with your political ideaology. That always works out well.

We know from experience that it’s worthless to reason with irrational people.

The fact that Trump is winning primaries shows us that we are not “smarter than this”. We have millions of proudly ignorant people in this country.

Nope. Not ignorant people. Lots of folks who are fed up with the left and making a statement (that the left refuses to listen to) - we’d rather vote for Trump than any of the garbage you’re offering up. And honestly, I get it.

You’re proving my point.

And yet, you still won’t change. Interesting.

What is it you all actually stand for other than hating the libs?

You seriously have to ask? How about harsher criminal punishments instead of letting the jacka$$es run amok in dc (and many other areas in the US). And tightening up the borders, to start?

You mean like the ones who stormed the capitol or your former president. SUre, I'm all for not letting the criminals run amock. Lets start with them.

If you’re comparing the participants of Jan 6 with carjackers, drug dealers and murderers, there is no rational conversation to be had here.

I absolutely am! They broke the law. Therefore, they are criminals.

And you think this makes your point look…reasonable? Lord almighty if this is the nonsense coming from some parts of the left we really are doomed.

Why do you not think they are criminals? Or do you think they are just patriots who acted because they thought they were saving us from the evil Dems? Please explain why you think they are not criminals. Most of them are sitting in jail now btw so there were laws on the books against that kid of behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:Why should I be proud of an accident? America does some things well, but does many other things horribly. I mean, half this country are completely ill magahats. That's embarrassing AF. We are rich yet we don't take care of our people.

And what are we supposed to be proud of? Our land? Our government? Our people? What does that even mean?

All of this is to say that I am grateful I was born into a family that was relatively comfortable in a country that was relatively peaceful and safe. For that I truly am always grateful. But I think we can do so much better.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a good life but currently, I'm mortally embarrassed to be American because of our political situation. We're smarter than this.

Are we?

Because right now it’s looking like Trump is going to win the GOP primary.

Oh please. You all want him to win. The entire media is in simultaneous salivating/panic mode over it. Salivating that he will clench the nomination so they can have ratings bonanza talking about him nonstop again for the next six months. And panic that they might cause him to win again because they have learned absolutely nothing from ignoring voters last time.

^ Here is an example of Americans not being “smarter than this”. So embarrassing.

Oh hey that’s a great strategy. Insult and talk down to those who aren’t in lockstep with your political ideaology. That always works out well.

We know from experience that it’s worthless to reason with irrational people.

The fact that Trump is winning primaries shows us that we are not “smarter than this”. We have millions of proudly ignorant people in this country.

DP, but did it never occur to you (genius that you are) that a huge swathe of the country voted for him in the first place because they felt totally disenfranchised and ignored? Of course not. You dug in your heels and continued to ridicule/talk down to them and insultingly dismiss their grievances as mere “racism” (and any other “isms” you could think of). And then you were shocked and outraged when these same people had the audacity to vote for him AGAIN. And now here you, repeating the same ignorant cycle.

It’s not JUST the Trump voters who are “proudly ignorant”…

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Anonymous wrote:I have a good life but currently, I'm mortally embarrassed to be American because of our political situation. We're smarter than this.

Are we?

Because right now it’s looking like Trump is going to win the GOP primary.

Oh please. You all want him to win. The entire media is in simultaneous salivating/panic mode over it. Salivating that he will clench the nomination so they can have ratings bonanza talking about him nonstop again for the next six months. And panic that they might cause him to win again because they have learned absolutely nothing from ignoring voters last time.

^ Here is an example of Americans not being “smarter than this”. So embarrassing.

Oh hey that’s a great strategy. Insult and talk down to those who aren’t in lockstep with your political ideaology. That always works out well.

We know from experience that it’s worthless to reason with irrational people.

The fact that Trump is winning primaries shows us that we are not “smarter than this”. We have millions of proudly ignorant people in this country.

DP, but did it never occur to you (genius that you are) that a huge swathe of the country voted for him in the first place because they felt totally disenfranchised and ignored? Of course not. You dug in your heels and continued to ridicule/talk down to them and insultingly dismiss their grievances as mere “racism” (and any other “isms” you could think of). And then you were shocked and outraged when these same people had the audacity to vote for him AGAIN. And now here you, repeating the same ignorant cycle.

It’s not JUST the Trump voters who are “proudly ignorant”…

+ freakin’ infinity

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Anonymous wrote:I am embarrassed by Hamas supporting/anti-Israel Americans. They don’t understand that Israel shares American values. They think the Palestinians are oppressed and Jews are oppressors. Laughable ignorance.

Genocide and segregation? Yes, the USA has a history of both. I hope we as a nation has moved beyond that. Unfortunately, Israel is still practicing such atrocities. Shame.

Is this the point at which we discuss the atrocities toward gay men and women that are still being practiced and supported in Palestine, or no?

We are talking about the USA. Stop trying to gaslight and whataboutism. Put on your big girl panties and stand on your own without saying, "but mommy, Johnny does so and so , whine"

DP but the bolded statements/terminology make you sound like an absolute fool.

Fools recognize fools. Good for you.