How proud are you to be an American?

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Anonymous wrote:Very proud to be an American. Would rather be an American than anything else. Without a doubt the rest of the world sucks.

Do we have issues and problems? Sure. But this is the best place with the most freedom. Is that unequal? Of course. But we work on that as we have.

We lead the world not by force although we could. We lead based on our ideals and what we aim for ever if we do not get it.

We are the only country that matters in the world. The only essential country.

We don’t get it right all the time but that is also part of what makes me proud to be an American.


The United States of America ranks 17 on the Human Freedom Index. https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/2023-12/human-freedom-index-2023-full-revised.pdf

The country with the most freedom is Switzerland, followed by New Zealand and then Denmark.


How many of those countries would be free if America hadn’t entered WW II and fought for freedom? How many would be free if we hadn’t formed NATO to defend freedom? How many would be free if we hadn’t set the precedent with our revolution that the divine right of kings could not only be defied and overcome, but that the people could form a stable government and rule themselves?
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I'm very proud to be part of the greatest experiment in human governance that has ever existed, and proud that my family since the founding of the nation has a continuous history of true civic involvement.

I'm also ashamed of much that my country has done to harm people, the environment, and the cause of justice and peace worldwide.
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I don't understand the point of feeling "proud" about something that happened to you by chance.
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Anonymous wrote:I have a good life but currently, I'm mortally embarrassed to be American because of our political situation. We're smarter than this.


Are we?

Because right now it’s looking like Trump is going to win the GOP primary.


Oh please. You all want him to win. The entire media is in simultaneous salivating/panic mode over it. Salivating that he will clench the nomination so they can have ratings bonanza talking about him nonstop again for the next six months. And panic that they might cause him to win again because they have learned absolutely nothing from ignoring voters last time.


^ Here is an example of Americans not being “smarter than this”. So embarrassing.


Oh hey that’s a great strategy. Insult and talk down to those who aren’t in lockstep with your political ideaology. That always works out well.


We know from experience that it’s worthless to reason with irrational people.

The fact that Trump is winning primaries shows us that we are not “smarter than this”. We have millions of proudly ignorant people in this country.


Nope. Not ignorant people. Lots of folks who are fed up with the left and making a statement (that the left refuses to listen to) - we’d rather vote for Trump than any of the garbage you’re offering up. And honestly, I get it.


You’re proving my point.


And yet, you still won’t change. Interesting.
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Anonymous wrote:I have a good life but currently, I'm mortally embarrassed to be American because of our political situation. We're smarter than this.


Are we?

Because right now it’s looking like Trump is going to win the GOP primary.


Oh please. You all want him to win. The entire media is in simultaneous salivating/panic mode over it. Salivating that he will clench the nomination so they can have ratings bonanza talking about him nonstop again for the next six months. And panic that they might cause him to win again because they have learned absolutely nothing from ignoring voters last time.


^ Here is an example of Americans not being “smarter than this”. So embarrassing.


Oh hey that’s a great strategy. Insult and talk down to those who aren’t in lockstep with your political ideaology. That always works out well.


We know from experience that it’s worthless to reason with irrational people.

The fact that Trump is winning primaries shows us that we are not “smarter than this”. We have millions of proudly ignorant people in this country.


Nope. Not ignorant people. Lots of folks who are fed up with the left and making a statement (that the left refuses to listen to) - we’d rather vote for Trump than any of the garbage you’re offering up. And honestly, I get it.


You’re proving my point.


And yet, you still won’t change. Interesting.


What is it you all actually stand for other than hating the libs?
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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the point of feeling "proud" about something that happened to you by chance.


By chance? Tell that to the immigrants who have risked life and limb to come here.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm very proud to be part of the greatest experiment in human governance that has ever existed, and proud that my family since the founding of the nation has a continuous history of true civic involvement.

I'm also ashamed of much that my country has done to harm people, the environment, and the cause of justice and peace worldwide.


+1000
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Anonymous wrote:Very proud to be an American. Would rather be an American than anything else. Without a doubt the rest of the world sucks.

Do we have issues and problems? Sure. But this is the best place with the most freedom. Is that unequal? Of course. But we work on that as we have.

We lead the world not by force although we could. We lead based on our ideals and what we aim for ever if we do not get it.

We are the only country that matters in the world. The only essential country.

We don’t get it right all the time but that is also part of what makes me proud to be an American.


The United States of America ranks 17 on the Human Freedom Index. https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/2023-12/human-freedom-index-2023-full-revised.pdf

The country with the most freedom is Switzerland, followed by New Zealand and then Denmark.


How many of those countries would be free if America hadn’t entered WW II and fought for freedom? How many would be free if we hadn’t formed NATO to defend freedom? How many would be free if we hadn’t set the precedent with our revolution that the divine right of kings could not only be defied and overcome, but that the people could form a stable government and rule themselves?


Most of them. Switzerland was neutral. New Zealand FOUGHT in WWII (ANZAC soldiers). So did Australia (#14). Of the countries above the USA, many of them were unaffected by WWII. Hell, JAPAN ranks ahead of the USA on this list.

Moreover, if you really have to point to something that happened 80 years ago as proof that you should jingoistically proud of the USA TODAY, you're grasping at straws.

You act like the USA invented freedom. It didn't. Hell, we wouldn't be a COUNTRY if it wasn't for France, and the French today are cheese-eating surrender monkeys. So whatever is your point?
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Anonymous wrote:I am embarrassed by Hamas supporting/anti-Israel Americans. They don’t understand that Israel shares American values. They think the Palestinians are oppressed and Jews are oppressors. Laughable ignorance.


Genocide and segregation? Yes, the USA has a history of both. I hope we as a nation has moved beyond that. Unfortunately, Israel is still practicing such atrocities. Shame.


Is this the point at which we discuss the atrocities toward gay men and women that are still being practiced and supported in Palestine, or no?

We are talking about the USA. Stop trying to gaslight and whataboutism. Put on your big girl panties and stand on your own without saying, "but mommy, Johnny does so and so , whine"


DP but the bolded statements/terminology make you sound like an absolute fool.
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Anonymous wrote:I have a good life but currently, I'm mortally embarrassed to be American because of our political situation. We're smarter than this.


Are we?

Because right now it’s looking like Trump is going to win the GOP primary.


Oh please. You all want him to win. The entire media is in simultaneous salivating/panic mode over it. Salivating that he will clench the nomination so they can have ratings bonanza talking about him nonstop again for the next six months. And panic that they might cause him to win again because they have learned absolutely nothing from ignoring voters last time.


^ Here is an example of Americans not being “smarter than this”. So embarrassing.


Oh hey that’s a great strategy. Insult and talk down to those who aren’t in lockstep with your political ideaology. That always works out well.


We know from experience that it’s worthless to reason with irrational people.

The fact that Trump is winning primaries shows us that we are not “smarter than this”. We have millions of proudly ignorant people in this country.


Nope. Not ignorant people. Lots of folks who are fed up with the left and making a statement (that the left refuses to listen to) - we’d rather vote for Trump than any of the garbage you’re offering up. And honestly, I get it.


Yeah clean air, equal pay, healthcare for all, access to safe abortion is pure evil, I tell ya!


You forgot low/no punishment for criminals which increases the crime rate and trauma to innocent victims, basically open borders and spending shitloads on illegals to the detriment of many Americans, economy, in the toilet…
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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the point of feeling "proud" about something that happened to you by chance.


Yet I’m guessing you’re all for reparations.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm very proud to be part of the greatest experiment in human governance that has ever existed, and proud that my family since the founding of the nation has a continuous history of true civic involvement.

I'm also ashamed of much that my country has done to harm people, the environment, and the cause of justice and peace worldwide.


I should clarify:

I have much gratitudethat my maternal ancestors came here on the Mayflower, and my paternal ancestors came on a boat to Ellis Island in the late 1800s.

I am proud that my family has always been actively involved in the experiment in a civic way and also by military service, both conscripted and volunteer.

And I am ashamed of all the ways we fall short as a nation, and in recent years have been losing heart about our future.

I studied political science with a concentration in theory, then obtained a law degree in an alternative program that included black letter law but also a lot of legal theory. I see what is happening for what it is, and it is frightening. I do have anxiety about the near future of this country, so much so that I have come to a place where I no longer regret not having children. I'm an educator and I experience a lot of anxiety for the future on behalf of other people's kids and that is hard enough.

We are on a precipice.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a good life but currently, I'm mortally embarrassed to be American because of our political situation. We're smarter than this.


Are we?

Because right now it’s looking like Trump is going to win the GOP primary.


Oh please. You all want him to win. The entire media is in simultaneous salivating/panic mode over it. Salivating that he will clench the nomination so they can have ratings bonanza talking about him nonstop again for the next six months. And panic that they might cause him to win again because they have learned absolutely nothing from ignoring voters last time.


^ Here is an example of Americans not being “smarter than this”. So embarrassing.


Oh hey that’s a great strategy. Insult and talk down to those who aren’t in lockstep with your political ideaology. That always works out well.


We know from experience that it’s worthless to reason with irrational people.

The fact that Trump is winning primaries shows us that we are not “smarter than this”. We have millions of proudly ignorant people in this country.


Nope. Not ignorant people. Lots of folks who are fed up with the left and making a statement (that the left refuses to listen to) - we’d rather vote for Trump than any of the garbage you’re offering up. And honestly, I get it.


You’re proving my point.


And yet, you still won’t change. Interesting.


What is it you all actually stand for other than hating the libs?


You seriously have to ask? How about harsher criminal punishments instead of letting the jacka$$es run amok in dc (and many other areas in the US). And tightening up the borders, to start?
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Anonymous wrote:I have a good life but currently, I'm mortally embarrassed to be American because of our political situation. We're smarter than this.


Are we?

Because right now it’s looking like Trump is going to win the GOP primary.


Oh please. You all want him to win. The entire media is in simultaneous salivating/panic mode over it. Salivating that he will clench the nomination so they can have ratings bonanza talking about him nonstop again for the next six months. And panic that they might cause him to win again because they have learned absolutely nothing from ignoring voters last time.


^ Here is an example of Americans not being “smarter than this”. So embarrassing.


Oh hey that’s a great strategy. Insult and talk down to those who aren’t in lockstep with your political ideaology. That always works out well.


We know from experience that it’s worthless to reason with irrational people.

The fact that Trump is winning primaries shows us that we are not “smarter than this”. We have millions of proudly ignorant people in this country.


Nope. Not ignorant people. Lots of folks who are fed up with the left and making a statement (that the left refuses to listen to) - we’d rather vote for Trump than any of the garbage you’re offering up. And honestly, I get it.


Yeah clean air, equal pay, healthcare for all, access to safe abortion is pure evil, I tell ya!


You forgot low/no punishment for criminals which increases the crime rate and trauma to innocent victims, basically open borders and spending shitloads on illegals to the detriment of many Americans, economy, in the toilet…


The economy is in the toilet? News to me. Unemployment is record low, the stock market is doing great, and inflation is decreasing (not the result of anything Biden did). Historically both the deficit and the economy have done better under Democrats. If you want to talk about meaningful immigration reform, sure, we can do that. But it ain't building the wall. Is the crime better in poor Alabama or Oklahoma where it's mostly republicans running the show? Nope.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a good life but currently, I'm mortally embarrassed to be American because of our political situation. We're smarter than this.


Are we?

Because right now it’s looking like Trump is going to win the GOP primary.


Oh please. You all want him to win. The entire media is in simultaneous salivating/panic mode over it. Salivating that he will clench the nomination so they can have ratings bonanza talking about him nonstop again for the next six months. And panic that they might cause him to win again because they have learned absolutely nothing from ignoring voters last time.


^ Here is an example of Americans not being “smarter than this”. So embarrassing.


Oh hey that’s a great strategy. Insult and talk down to those who aren’t in lockstep with your political ideaology. That always works out well.


We know from experience that it’s worthless to reason with irrational people.

The fact that Trump is winning primaries shows us that we are not “smarter than this”. We have millions of proudly ignorant people in this country.


Nope. Not ignorant people. Lots of folks who are fed up with the left and making a statement (that the left refuses to listen to) - we’d rather vote for Trump than any of the garbage you’re offering up. And honestly, I get it.


You’re proving my point.


And yet, you still won’t change. Interesting.


What is it you all actually stand for other than hating the libs?


You seriously have to ask? How about harsher criminal punishments instead of letting the jacka$$es run amok in dc (and many other areas in the US). And tightening up the borders, to start?


You mean like the ones who stormed the capitol or your former president. SUre, I'm all for not letting the criminals run amock. Lets start with them.
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