Pronounced "gay Pareeeee." And meant unironically? If you say so. |
Gets swept under the rug and only half get posted about here. Some of the more memorable ones were the N* word cards or the kids in black face. Kind of disgraceful really. There were a couple of antisemitic incidents at Churchill last year too. Not surprising it happens elsewhere once every couple of years. |
Says someone who knows nothing about the work Germany and those companies have done to acknowledge their past and give reparations. |
I don't know. And my point is that we'll see what consequences the students receive and can debate the appropriateness at that time. Maybe now the outrage should be about what these kids DID, as opposed to getting pre-mad about how the school district may or may not react (other than sending a letter to parents and contacting the police) |
If I were to guess, the consequences for this at Blair will be very different than the slap on the wrist that happens at a W. |
Or you could wait and see and know for sure, instead of guessing in advance. |
A lot of those happened off of school property, outside of school hours, and often the messages were spread in private chat groups. Generally, the school shouldn't be policing what students do in their private time. |
You’re right. I should have said it was a long time ago, let’s forget it. Would that make you happier? If this were an in person conversation you’d just have agreed with me and the conversation would move on. You’re just looking for something to get offended about. We’re not talking about the basics of antisemitism, we’re talking about Hitler and the Second World War. How about you actually read what I wrote? It’s astounding that you feel that one group has a monopoly on Nazi trauma and that no one else can legitimately have been impacted and that it’s offensive that someone whose family members died in concentration camps, fought in the resistance, saved many Jewish lives (and were honored for doing so), were executed by firing squad and more, comments that this was our recent history (EVEN THOUGH you agree with this, because apparently, according to you only Jewish people can say that??!). What many Americans don’t seem to understand in the same way as those of us who grew up in Europe in the 50s, 60s or 70s do is that Nazi atrocities were broad and long lasting throughout Europe in addition to the horrific death camps and the devastating toll on the Jewish population. |
+100 From the beginning of this thread, some folks seemed absolutely committed to the narrative that no one cares, nothing will be done, MCPS doesn't care about Jews, etc. This despite the fact that the principal took it seriously, sent out an all-school email, and involved law enforcement. Also despite the fact that the letter specifically called out anti-semitism and included links to sites dealing explicitly with anti-Jewish hate. Look, I know that generational trauma makes people skeptical, but MCPS has done everything one could have expected at this point. Insisting that "no one cares about the Jews" is patently false in general, and demonstrably false in this specific case based on the evidence right in front of us. Getting mad because the students who did this have not yet been executed in a public square is not helpful or productive. |
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What many Americans don’t seem to understand in the same way as those of us who grew up in Europe in the 50s, 60s or 70s do is that Nazi atrocities were broad and long lasting throughout Europe in addition to the horrific death camps and the devastating toll on the Jewish population.
I'm not this PP, but I want to pull this out because it reflects my first reaction to the letter from the Blair principal. The choice to describe what happened as "an antisemitic salute" rather than "a Nazi salute" is an interesting one because it explicitly prioritizes Jewish suffering over other groups murdered by the Third Reich. If anyone has cause to be upset about the wording or the MCPS response, it's representatives of Roma/Sinti groups, the LGBTQ+ community, persons with disabilities, and people of Polish descent. As a queer Polish person, though, I'm not upset. I understand that in a North American context, Jewish suffering in WWII is far better understood than the suffering of any other group. But it does grate a little to log on and see folks claiming to represent the Jewish community complaining about the MCPS response when they were actually the only group mentioned, and the only group whose representative organizations were linked. |
No. You don’t get it. It’s offensive to explain basic facts about WWII and the Holocaust to a Jewish person. I never said Jews have a monopoly on any of this, but your need to explain to me that your family was also impacted sounds like you’re trying to center yourself in this conversation. |
This is the post about the incident at Blair. So it's obviously happening in all schools. But your jealousy of the W schools compels you to keep posting things like this. Sad. |
You’re right. It was a very long time ago. We need to just forget it happened. |
+1. This was the first time I’d ever heard a Nazi salute to be described as an “antisemitic salute”. Of course it is associated with antisemitism but it’s incorrect to suggest that it is only offensive to Jews which makes the description an odd choice. |
No one was “explaining basic facts”. It was very clearly a personal observation. |