Why do antivaxxers say Covid is nbd but vax injuries are

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I currently have a pulmonary blood clot that I now believe was caused by an adverse reaction to a Pfizer booster I had late last winter. I’ve been on three different blood thinners since April, trying to dissolve it. The next step will be a lobectomy where they’ll remove the bottom half of my left lung. I’m 33, F, and prior to this had never had a blood clotting issue or any other health concern. I ran my first marathon at 22, and have run 19 of them. I will never be able to run again. I regret getting the covid vaccine more than I’ve ever regretted anything in my life. It was the worst thing I have ever done to myself.

What does your doctor say?

I wonder how much worse it’d be if you actually ever had covid.

NP here
PP didn't say she never had Covid.
The "vaccine" doesn't prevent getting Covid.

That’s exactly what it does. You may be under the mistaken belief that any vaccine is 100% effective and preventing any level of infection. But, this is never the case. Particularly when the pathogen is so widespread. All that research you did on your own had some gaps. Get the vaccine and stop being stupid.

I’m vaccinated and have had 3 boosters. I have covid right now.

I guess I must be one of those anecdotal anomalies that don’t count when people like you babble platitudes like “the vaccine prevents getting covid - that’s exactly what it does”.

Because if the vaccine - and a bunch of booster - prevented getting covid, I wouldn’t have covid right now, would I?


Can you explain it to me like I’m a child? Or pretend I’m stupid, and use small words: of the vaccine prevents covid, how do I have covid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I currently have a pulmonary blood clot that I now believe was caused by an adverse reaction to a Pfizer booster I had late last winter. I’ve been on three different blood thinners since April, trying to dissolve it. The next step will be a lobectomy where they’ll remove the bottom half of my left lung. I’m 33, F, and prior to this had never had a blood clotting issue or any other health concern. I ran my first marathon at 22, and have run 19 of them. I will never be able to run again. I regret getting the covid vaccine more than I’ve ever regretted anything in my life. It was the worst thing I have ever done to myself.

What does your doctor say?

I wonder how much worse it’d be if you actually ever had covid.

NP here
PP didn't say she never had Covid.
The "vaccine" doesn't prevent getting Covid.

That’s exactly what it does. You may be under the mistaken belief that any vaccine is 100% effective and preventing any level of infection. But, this is never the case. Particularly when the pathogen is so widespread. All that research you did on your own had some gaps. Get the vaccine and stop being stupid.

I’m vaccinated and have had 3 boosters. I have covid right now.

I guess I must be one of those anecdotal anomalies that don’t count when people like you babble platitudes like “the vaccine prevents getting covid - that’s exactly what it does”.

Because if the vaccine - and a bunch of booster - prevented getting covid, I wouldn’t have covid right now, would I?


Can you explain it to me like I’m a child? Or pretend I’m stupid, and use small words: of the vaccine prevents covid, how do I have covid?

It reduces the likelihood of getting covid, and if you do get covid, it's supposed to make it less severe.

also, i believe, we don't have a vaccine yet for the variant that is now going around.

https://medcom.uiowa.edu/theloop/in-the-spotlight/why-vaccinated-people-still-get-sick-with-covid-19

https://www.healthpartners.com/blog/covid-19-breakthrough-case-after-vaccination/

https://www.health.state.mn.us/diseases/coronavirus/stats/vbt.html

etc

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Thanks. But that's precisely the point - a "one size fits all" approach to covid is and was always a horrible idea. So yeah, the anecdotes are very relevant and important.

Public health policy cannot treat every individual as if they are a special snowflake. Policy has to address the odds on a population level. Mandate vaccines and x people will still die/suffer seriously from COVID or have a negative reaction to the vaccine versus don't mandate vaccines and 50x people will die/suffer seriously from COVID, then the mandate is an easy call. Even if there is still some damage with mandates in place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I currently have a pulmonary blood clot that I now believe was caused by an adverse reaction to a Pfizer booster I had late last winter. I’ve been on three different blood thinners since April, trying to dissolve it. The next step will be a lobectomy where they’ll remove the bottom half of my left lung. I’m 33, F, and prior to this had never had a blood clotting issue or any other health concern. I ran my first marathon at 22, and have run 19 of them. I will never be able to run again. I regret getting the covid vaccine more than I’ve ever regretted anything in my life. It was the worst thing I have ever done to myself.

What does your doctor say?

I wonder how much worse it’d be if you actually ever had covid.

NP here
PP didn't say she never had Covid.
The "vaccine" doesn't prevent getting Covid.

That’s exactly what it does. You may be under the mistaken belief that any vaccine is 100% effective and preventing any level of infection. But, this is never the case. Particularly when the pathogen is so widespread. All that research you did on your own had some gaps. Get the vaccine and stop being stupid.

I’m vaccinated and have had 3 boosters. I have covid right now.

I guess I must be one of those anecdotal anomalies that don’t count when people like you babble platitudes like “the vaccine prevents getting covid - that’s exactly what it does”.

Because if the vaccine - and a bunch of booster - prevented getting covid, I wouldn’t have covid right now, would I?


Can you explain it to me like I’m a child? Or pretend I’m stupid, and use small words: of the vaccine prevents covid, how do I have covid?

It reduces the likelihood of getting covid, and if you do get covid, it's supposed to make it less severe.

also, i believe, we don't have a vaccine yet for the variant that is now going around.

https://medcom.uiowa.edu/theloop/in-the-spotlight/why-vaccinated-people-still-get-sick-with-covid-19

https://www.healthpartners.com/blog/covid-19-breakthrough-case-after-vaccination/

https://www.health.state.mn.us/diseases/coronavirus/stats/vbt.html

etc

DP


Every single person I know who got vaccinated, also got covid, with symptoms. I also know a handful of people who’ve never been vaccinated, and two of them have never had it, or at least were totally asymptomatic.

I just SMH at these people who are still carrying the torch for the vaccines. Give it up. You sound like a cultist.


It definitely DOES NOT reduce the likelihood of getting it.

It MIGHT reduce symptoms and severe cases with long term complications and death. Maybe. But that’s literally the BEST it can do. You’re still 100% getting covid, vaxxed or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I currently have a pulmonary blood clot that I now believe was caused by an adverse reaction to a Pfizer booster I had late last winter. I’ve been on three different blood thinners since April, trying to dissolve it. The next step will be a lobectomy where they’ll remove the bottom half of my left lung. I’m 33, F, and prior to this had never had a blood clotting issue or any other health concern. I ran my first marathon at 22, and have run 19 of them. I will never be able to run again. I regret getting the covid vaccine more than I’ve ever regretted anything in my life. It was the worst thing I have ever done to myself.

What does your doctor say?

I wonder how much worse it’d be if you actually ever had covid.

NP here
PP didn't say she never had Covid.
The "vaccine" doesn't prevent getting Covid.

That’s exactly what it does. You may be under the mistaken belief that any vaccine is 100% effective and preventing any level of infection. But, this is never the case. Particularly when the pathogen is so widespread. All that research you did on your own had some gaps. Get the vaccine and stop being stupid.

I’m vaccinated and have had 3 boosters. I have covid right now.

I guess I must be one of those anecdotal anomalies that don’t count when people like you babble platitudes like “the vaccine prevents getting covid - that’s exactly what it does”.

Because if the vaccine - and a bunch of booster - prevented getting covid, I wouldn’t have covid right now, would I?


Can you explain it to me like I’m a child? Or pretend I’m stupid, and use small words: of the vaccine prevents covid, how do I have covid?

Sure, because no vaccine is effective for 100% of people. It is near 100% at reducing viral load and shortening/lessening symptoms. But vaccines have a range of efficacy. The COVID shot is like the flu shot in that respect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I currently have a pulmonary blood clot that I now believe was caused by an adverse reaction to a Pfizer booster I had late last winter. I’ve been on three different blood thinners since April, trying to dissolve it. The next step will be a lobectomy where they’ll remove the bottom half of my left lung. I’m 33, F, and prior to this had never had a blood clotting issue or any other health concern. I ran my first marathon at 22, and have run 19 of them. I will never be able to run again. I regret getting the covid vaccine more than I’ve ever regretted anything in my life. It was the worst thing I have ever done to myself.

What does your doctor say?

I wonder how much worse it’d be if you actually ever had covid.

NP here
PP didn't say she never had Covid.
The "vaccine" doesn't prevent getting Covid.

That’s exactly what it does. You may be under the mistaken belief that any vaccine is 100% effective and preventing any level of infection. But, this is never the case. Particularly when the pathogen is so widespread. All that research you did on your own had some gaps. Get the vaccine and stop being stupid.

I’m vaccinated and have had 3 boosters. I have covid right now.

I guess I must be one of those anecdotal anomalies that don’t count when people like you babble platitudes like “the vaccine prevents getting covid - that’s exactly what it does”.

Because if the vaccine - and a bunch of booster - prevented getting covid, I wouldn’t have covid right now, would I?


Can you explain it to me like I’m a child? Or pretend I’m stupid, and use small words: of the vaccine prevents covid, how do I have covid?

It reduces the likelihood of getting covid, and if you do get covid, it's supposed to make it less severe.

also, i believe, we don't have a vaccine yet for the variant that is now going around.

https://medcom.uiowa.edu/theloop/in-the-spotlight/why-vaccinated-people-still-get-sick-with-covid-19

https://www.healthpartners.com/blog/covid-19-breakthrough-case-after-vaccination/

https://www.health.state.mn.us/diseases/coronavirus/stats/vbt.html

etc

DP


Every single person I know who got vaccinated, also got covid, with symptoms. I also know a handful of people who’ve never been vaccinated, and two of them have never had it, or at least were totally asymptomatic.

I just SMH at these people who are still carrying the torch for the vaccines. Give it up. You sound like a cultist.


It definitely DOES NOT reduce the likelihood of getting it.

It MIGHT reduce symptoms and severe cases with long term complications and death. Maybe. But that’s literally the BEST it can do. You’re still 100% getting covid, vaxxed or not.

This is gibberish.

The COVID vaccine doesn’t reduce the chance of getting COVID and for that claim you post the above anecdotes? GTFO. Your schooling failed you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I currently have a pulmonary blood clot that I now believe was caused by an adverse reaction to a Pfizer booster I had late last winter. I’ve been on three different blood thinners since April, trying to dissolve it. The next step will be a lobectomy where they’ll remove the bottom half of my left lung. I’m 33, F, and prior to this had never had a blood clotting issue or any other health concern. I ran my first marathon at 22, and have run 19 of them. I will never be able to run again. I regret getting the covid vaccine more than I’ve ever regretted anything in my life. It was the worst thing I have ever done to myself.

What does your doctor say?

I wonder how much worse it’d be if you actually ever had covid.

NP here
PP didn't say she never had Covid.
The "vaccine" doesn't prevent getting Covid.

That’s exactly what it does. You may be under the mistaken belief that any vaccine is 100% effective and preventing any level of infection. But, this is never the case. Particularly when the pathogen is so widespread. All that research you did on your own had some gaps. Get the vaccine and stop being stupid.

I’m vaccinated and have had 3 boosters. I have covid right now.

I guess I must be one of those anecdotal anomalies that don’t count when people like you babble platitudes like “the vaccine prevents getting covid - that’s exactly what it does”.

Because if the vaccine - and a bunch of booster - prevented getting covid, I wouldn’t have covid right now, would I?


Can you explain it to me like I’m a child? Or pretend I’m stupid, and use small words: of the vaccine prevents covid, how do I have covid?

It reduces the likelihood of getting covid, and if you do get covid, it's supposed to make it less severe.

also, i believe, we don't have a vaccine yet for the variant that is now going around.

https://medcom.uiowa.edu/theloop/in-the-spotlight/why-vaccinated-people-still-get-sick-with-covid-19

https://www.healthpartners.com/blog/covid-19-breakthrough-case-after-vaccination/

https://www.health.state.mn.us/diseases/coronavirus/stats/vbt.html

etc

DP


Every single person I know who got vaccinated, also got covid, with symptoms. I also know a handful of people who’ve never been vaccinated, and two of them have never had it, or at least were totally asymptomatic.

I just SMH at these people who are still carrying the torch for the vaccines. Give it up. You sound like a cultist.


It definitely DOES NOT reduce the likelihood of getting it.

It MIGHT reduce symptoms and severe cases with long term complications and death. Maybe. But that’s literally the BEST it can do. You’re still 100% getting covid, vaxxed or not.

People that get the vaccine tend to resume a normal life and experience greater exposure.

[Anonymous]

I would assume that most people are like me. I rushed out to get vaccinated as soon as I could. I got my two shots and a booster. I've had COVID twice since then, once last summer and once this summer. I'm done with COVID vaccines and masks. Call me an anti-vaxer if you want, but I was never at high risk from COVID, I got my vaccinations and still got it. What was the point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would assume that most people are like me. I rushed out to get vaccinated as soon as I could. I got my two shots and a booster. I've had COVID twice since then, once last summer and once this summer. I'm done with COVID vaccines and masks. Call me an anti-vaxer if you want, but I was never at high risk from COVID, I got my vaccinations and still got it. What was the point.

You're alive. That was the point.

[Anonymous]

Personal experience is personal experience. Covid was NBD for me. My cousin died of a reaction to the yellow fever vaccine.