Americans moving to Japan for safety and affordability

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live on the Hill and am near shootings constantly, to the point that I just expect it. It was eye-opening to realize that people can wander in cities at night and not worry about this.

You realize that this is true in the vast majority of the US?

How are we counting a “city” here?

“Near shootings constantly?” Pretty much anywhere that isn’t the roughest parts of Baltimore, Chicago, New Orleans or St. Louis. It’s a big country out there. You should go see it sometime.

Have seen nearly all of it.

I think you're bloviating and have no working definition of what a "city" is, or any idea what gun violence looks like in them, for the purposes of this conversation.

[Anonymous]

First of all, Japanese culture is wayyyyyy different than American. Like 180. Even among Asian cultures, Japanese traditions/culture is like 10000% conservative/anal/traditional/et al. I am Chinese and I could not handle it. An American would have a very very rough time there.

That being said, if you are OK with how different their lifestyles are, it's 100000% a nicer lifestyle than American in the context of comfort/safety/health and every other way. Keep in mind at World Cup last year the Japanese stayed post game to CLEAN The stadium. Can you imagine Americans or any other country doing this???? They are high end, uber respectful and a very structured society. They have their problems as every nation/society does but you have to understand that culturally, they differ from American easy laid back independence is all attitude. So if you don't like the American way, you may love Japanese way for sure. You may also not like it at all however - just understand what you are going to find.

And that being said, depending on your profession, your involvement with society I guess, you could have a different perspective. So if you work in corporate that is going to look different than teaching English to kids. They are my favorite people to socialize with, exchange gifts with, trust and do business with. Living there is different. It will make you a "better" person in the sense that it is very driven by respect. All Asian cultures share this but really I'd say any culture EXCEPT US. Europeans, Latins, Asians, Jewish culture, etc have a familial code of respecting elders for example. The biggest issues with US and I think why so many are unhappy here (incl me) is this lack of respect for others. It's all about freedom, independence and entitlement. Nobody can tell me what to do! Nobody can tell me how to live! Etc. Et Al. That's what contributes to our capitalism, our violence, all of it. Our education structure, political structure, culture structure, all of it is going down because everyone wants it their way.

In Japan, that's not how they live. Now they do have issues and let me tell you, if you think working in the US is hard....the hours Japanese will work in corporate will kill you

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Japan is notoriously xenophobic.

Well, to be fair, its probably the homogeny of their people that allows their culture.

People hate on the US but we’re one of the few truly diverse countries on the planet. There are lots of inherrent challenges that go along with that.

But of course gun crime has nothing to do with diversity. Australia is more diverse and doesn’t have a gun crime problem like the US.

There is a lot more fights and general social corrosive behavior in Australia than in Japan

I’m poc and Japan is xenophobic sure but it’s so safe and clean and chill as I mentioned in another sub forum on here as long as you don’t want to “become Japanese” or have local friends it’s way better to live than anywhere else really.

Australia is really very rednecky even in the cities

Yes, who wants local friends!?

Not me - I’m fine with an expat community

Not a great way to experience the vibrancy of a different culture

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You do understand that when OP says "Americans", they are referring to White people. Blacks and other people, need not apply because they are not welcome in Japan.

Why do you think it's so safe?

It’s safe because there is equality/equity. They never forced a bunch of people into their country to become slaves. They never stole their land from other people. They are a more egalitarian society. That’s why it’s safer.

Ha ha ha. Search Korean comfort women.

Yes, I know about the WWII history. The point is they don’t CURRENTLY have slave descendants that are relegated to segregated inner cities, with poor schools, and few opportunities for advancement. Way to miss the point.

Yes they do. Look up untouchables.

Agree, they even shun their own people the Burakumin (untouchables), and not just the Chinese and Koreans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Japan is way, way too conservative for most Americans. The people who say things like "they are safer and take better care of their people" would probably not tolerate living in an actual society like Japan.

Absolutely true. My sister lives there and was forced out of her job at 6 months pregnant because her boss said it was shameful for her to be working in her condition. (This was only 5 years ago.) Her husband, on the other hand, got a fat raise on the birth of his child because he would need the extra money. Is DCUM really ok with women being fired for pregnancy and male coworkers getting unmerited raises because their wives had babies? Is DCUM really ok with no ADHD meds or in-school help for their SN kids, just segregated schools? Is DCUM ok with their kids having to clean their school and mothers (only mothers, because none of them work) being de facto forced into volunteer work there? Draconian drug policies?

Based

LOL but I'm asking if DCUM is ok with it. The point is that a clean well-run society like Japan necessarily has standards and shaming. No "do whatever as long as it doesn't hurt me." In Japan the police can search your person for no other reason than "something was just stolen in this area." And you better believe they engage in profiling.
The doctor providing the "Free" healthcare will scold you severely if you are even approaching overweight. You all cool with that?

So.. you want doctors to approach an overweight person and say everything is fine and you're perfectly healthy- please go on with your current lifestyle! (?)

Also lol at spouting off nonsense in your first post about none of the mothers working- currently the rate is over 75%.

The proportion of working mothers in child-rearing households exceeded 75% for the first time in 2021, according to a Health, Labor and Welfare Ministry survey.

https://japannews.yomiuri.co.jp/society/general-news/20220913-57964/#:~:text=The%20proportion%20of%20working%20mothers,Labor%20and%20Welfare%20Ministry%20survey.

And where on earth did you get the idea that there's no medication for kids with ADHD?? From thin air?
My friend is a psychiatrist in Japan and they absolutely prescribe medication for ADHD.

Just have to chuckle at some of the absurd ideas some have without direct knowledge...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You do understand that when OP says "Americans", they are referring to White people. Blacks and other people, need not apply because they are not welcome in Japan.

Why do you think it's so safe?

It’s safe because there is equality/equity. They never forced a bunch of people into their country to become slaves. They never stole their land from other people. They are a more egalitarian society. That’s why it’s safer.

Ha ha ha. Search Korean comfort women.

Yes, I know about the WWII history. The point is they don’t CURRENTLY have slave descendants that are relegated to segregated inner cities, with poor schools, and few opportunities for advancement. Way to miss the point.

Yes they do. Look up untouchables.

Agree, they even shun their own people the Burakumin (untouchables), and not just the Chinese and Koreans.

If you just exclude those groups from your analysis, Japan is just fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You do understand that when OP says "Americans", they are referring to White people. Blacks and other people, need not apply because they are not welcome in Japan.

Why do you think it's so safe?

It’s safe because there is equality/equity. They never forced a bunch of people into their country to become slaves. They never stole their land from other people. They are a more egalitarian society. That’s why it’s safer.

Ha ha ha. Search Korean comfort women.

Yes, I know about the WWII history. The point is they don’t CURRENTLY have slave descendants that are relegated to segregated inner cities, with poor schools, and few opportunities for advancement. Way to miss the point.

Yes they do. Look up untouchables.

Agree, they even shun their own people the Burakumin (untouchables), and not just the Chinese and Koreans.

+1 Koreans are second class citizens there, even the ones who are descendants of the Koreans who were forced to go to Japan during the colonial period as slave labor.

There's no way I'd live in Japan as a Korean American.