DD suddenly stops shaving

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Anonymous wrote:I have never shaved. It's people who think that the prepubescent look should be the norm who are weird, not your daughter. Leave her alone.

Cannot believe there are grown women that don’t at least shave bikini line. Do you never wear a swimsuit or just don’t care that pubes hang out?

I never shave my bikini line any more. I have sensitive skin and I hate how it feels. I wear bathing suits with shorts or a skirt. My mother have never shaved anything as far as I know. And I don’t think I’ve ever seen her in a bathing suit. She liked to read her book on the beach while my dad took us kids swimming.

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Anonymous wrote:What I would say:
Look, I can tell you that no matter what they say, and especially what other girls or women say, most boys and men prefer shaved. Now, I am not saying you should make sacrifices to be liked by boys better. All I am saying is that’s a well known fact, it’s just not ok to say it outright anymore because equality and all that. It is up to you how to deal with the knowledge I shared with you, I am not going to come back to this conversation unless you bring it up, and thank you for listening despite feeling uncomfortable!

This article is mostly about armpit hair but OPs daughter is hardly alone, younger women are shaving less than we did
https://nypost.com/2022/03/02/gen-z-gals-on-growing-out-body-hair-its-sexy-and-empowering/"35 percent of Americans have no preference if women shave or not, while 7 percent said they should not shave. For respondents between the ages of 18 and 35, female fur proved to be even less of an issue, with a majority confessing that they either find armpit hair attractive or don’t care if a woman has it."

I’d like to meet a man openly admitting he prefers no hair in our turbulent times

Don’t worry, there are plenty of Andrew Tates out there

Hm, fewer than you think, or at least those who are open about it. Even a DH won’t always tell his DW he prefers when she shaves.

Nope. There are way more Andrew Tate fans than you could imagine. And even a non-radical 16-year old boy who doesn’t have great social graces will have no problem loudly proclaiming that he thinks leg hair on girls is gross.

I will say though that I personally would never say to my daughter “hey fyi boys like it when you do like this” with the heavy implication that they should do it. Boys also like tight clothes, right?

Luckily plenty of girls don’t care what that type of boy wants

Disagree. They care, plenty.

Sure. Insecure girls or girls who like dude-bros care. Many many girls and women don't care. Personally I'd like to attract a person who accepts me for who I am and appreciates how I like to express myself.

But you’d like someone who is good looking, not socially awkward, earns a good salary?
-DP

Ha!
Unless she's hooking ip with someone in sales, there is no correlation.
Now a full head of hair..

I am a woman but if I were a good looking high earning male, why would I date someone who isn’t shaving if there are so many women who do? Sure I could be struck by the lightning of love but let’s be realistic? Sorry if I am not progressive enough

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Anonymous wrote:I have never shaved. It's people who think that the prepubescent look should be the norm who are weird, not your daughter. Leave her alone.

What’s prepubescent about shaved legs?!

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Anonymous wrote:Is this a trend? Asked DD if she need new razors to shave right before spring break trip - she would be wearing a bathing suit. Said no. She obviously had not shaved legs or her armpits either. I did ask her why and was it for philosophical reasons. She got uncomfortable and would not give a straight answer. She’s 15.
I don’t care much though honestly, don’t like the look. Just strange how uncomfortable she got with the discussion. It is unusual for her.

You tell her bluntly, hairy legs & armpits are not acceptable. My mom commented on mine for years & years and would tell me which spots I needed to shave better, as well as buy me interesting shaving devices. So grateful.

Oh boy some posters are going to eat you alive now
I wouldn’t quite inspect my DD but I agree with the premise of hair being unacceptable in certain places

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Anonymous wrote:What I would say:
Look, I can tell you that no matter what they say, and especially what other girls or women say, most boys and men prefer shaved. Now, I am not saying you should make sacrifices to be liked by boys better. All I am saying is that’s a well known fact, it’s just not ok to say it outright anymore because equality and all that. It is up to you how to deal with the knowledge I shared with you, I am not going to come back to this conversation unless you bring it up, and thank you for listening despite feeling uncomfortable!

This article is mostly about armpit hair but OPs daughter is hardly alone, younger women are shaving less than we did
https://nypost.com/2022/03/02/gen-z-gals-on-growing-out-body-hair-its-sexy-and-empowering/"35 percent of Americans have no preference if women shave or not, while 7 percent said they should not shave. For respondents between the ages of 18 and 35, female fur proved to be even less of an issue, with a majority confessing that they either find armpit hair attractive or don’t care if a woman has it."

I’d like to meet a man openly admitting he prefers no hair in our turbulent times

Don’t worry, there are plenty of Andrew Tates out there

Hm, fewer than you think, or at least those who are open about it. Even a DH won’t always tell his DW he prefers when she shaves.

Nope. There are way more Andrew Tate fans than you could imagine. And even a non-radical 16-year old boy who doesn’t have great social graces will have no problem loudly proclaiming that he thinks leg hair on girls is gross.

I will say though that I personally would never say to my daughter “hey fyi boys like it when you do like this” with the heavy implication that they should do it. Boys also like tight clothes, right?

Luckily plenty of girls don’t care what that type of boy wants

Disagree. They care, plenty.

Sure. Insecure girls or girls who like dude-bros care. Many many girls and women don't care. Personally I'd like to attract a person who accepts me for who I am and appreciates how I like to express myself.

But you’d like someone who is good looking, not socially awkward, earns a good salary?
-DP

Ha!
Unless she's hooking ip with someone in sales, there is no correlation.
Now a full head of hair..

I am a woman but if I were a good looking high earning male, why would I date someone who isn’t shaving if there are so many women who do? Sure I could be struck by the lightning of love but let’s be realistic? Sorry if I am not progressive enough

Well fortunately not shaving at 15 doesn’t really have any long term effect. If OP’s DD decides she wants to snag a high earning male and 20 or 25 or 30, she can just start shaving again.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here - lots of projecting. I don’t know any other girls who aren’t shaving, though I don’t look all that closely. This is a change and I just assumed she needed razors which is why I asked. It was the level of discomfort- we really talked about most things together just fine- that caught me off guard. That and her redial to talk about it.
Normally she would easily say- I think this or that- if she had a strong belief in something.

Maybe she is pressured into not shaving (as we can see from the thread even adults can be very vocal about it), or she is thinking that maybe she is queer?

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Anonymous wrote:What I would say:
Look, I can tell you that no matter what they say, and especially what other girls or women say, most boys and men prefer shaved. Now, I am not saying you should make sacrifices to be liked by boys better. All I am saying is that’s a well known fact, it’s just not ok to say it outright anymore because equality and all that. It is up to you how to deal with the knowledge I shared with you, I am not going to come back to this conversation unless you bring it up, and thank you for listening despite feeling uncomfortable!

This article is mostly about armpit hair but OPs daughter is hardly alone, younger women are shaving less than we did
https://nypost.com/2022/03/02/gen-z-gals-on-growing-out-body-hair-its-sexy-and-empowering/"35 percent of Americans have no preference if women shave or not, while 7 percent said they should not shave. For respondents between the ages of 18 and 35, female fur proved to be even less of an issue, with a majority confessing that they either find armpit hair attractive or don’t care if a woman has it."

I’d like to meet a man openly admitting he prefers no hair in our turbulent times

Don’t worry, there are plenty of Andrew Tates out there

Hm, fewer than you think, or at least those who are open about it. Even a DH won’t always tell his DW he prefers when she shaves.

Nope. There are way more Andrew Tate fans than you could imagine. And even a non-radical 16-year old boy who doesn’t have great social graces will have no problem loudly proclaiming that he thinks leg hair on girls is gross.

I will say though that I personally would never say to my daughter “hey fyi boys like it when you do like this” with the heavy implication that they should do it. Boys also like tight clothes, right?

Luckily plenty of girls don’t care what that type of boy wants

Disagree. They care, plenty.

Sure. Insecure girls or girls who like dude-bros care. Many many girls and women don't care. Personally I'd like to attract a person who accepts me for who I am and appreciates how I like to express myself.

But you’d like someone who is good looking, not socially awkward, earns a good salary?
-DP

Ha!
Unless she's hooking ip with someone in sales, there is no correlation.
Now a full head of hair..

I am a woman but if I were a good looking high earning male, why would I date someone who isn’t shaving if there are so many women who do? Sure I could be struck by the lightning of love but let’s be realistic? Sorry if I am not progressive enough

Well fortunately not shaving at 15 doesn’t really have any long term effect. If OP’s DD decides she wants to snag a high earning male and 20 or 25 or 30, she can just start shaving again.

True! Hopefully she won’t think it’s something shameful

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Anonymous wrote:Is this a trend? Asked DD if she need new razors to shave right before spring break trip - she would be wearing a bathing suit. Said no. She obviously had not shaved legs or her armpits either. I did ask her why and was it for philosophical reasons. She got uncomfortable and would not give a straight answer. She’s 15.
I don’t care much though honestly, don’t like the look. Just strange how uncomfortable she got with the discussion. It is unusual for her.

You tell her bluntly, hairy legs & armpits are not acceptable. My mom commented on mine for years & years and would tell me which spots I needed to shave better, as well as buy me interesting shaving devices. So grateful.

This is easily the saddest thing I've read on DCUM in awhile.

"Years & years"???? What a godawful mother you had.

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Anonymous wrote:What I would say:
Look, I can tell you that no matter what they say, and especially what other girls or women say, most boys and men prefer shaved. Now, I am not saying you should make sacrifices to be liked by boys better. All I am saying is that’s a well known fact, it’s just not ok to say it outright anymore because equality and all that. It is up to you how to deal with the knowledge I shared with you, I am not going to come back to this conversation unless you bring it up, and thank you for listening despite feeling uncomfortable!

This article is mostly about armpit hair but OPs daughter is hardly alone, younger women are shaving less than we did
https://nypost.com/2022/03/02/gen-z-gals-on-growing-out-body-hair-its-sexy-and-empowering/"35 percent of Americans have no preference if women shave or not, while 7 percent said they should not shave. For respondents between the ages of 18 and 35, female fur proved to be even less of an issue, with a majority confessing that they either find armpit hair attractive or don’t care if a woman has it."

I’d like to meet a man openly admitting he prefers no hair in our turbulent times

Don’t worry, there are plenty of Andrew Tates out there

Hm, fewer than you think, or at least those who are open about it. Even a DH won’t always tell his DW he prefers when she shaves.

Nope. There are way more Andrew Tate fans than you could imagine. And even a non-radical 16-year old boy who doesn’t have great social graces will have no problem loudly proclaiming that he thinks leg hair on girls is gross.

I will say though that I personally would never say to my daughter “hey fyi boys like it when you do like this” with the heavy implication that they should do it. Boys also like tight clothes, right?

Luckily plenty of girls don’t care what that type of boy wants

Disagree. They care, plenty.

Sure. Insecure girls or girls who like dude-bros care. Many many girls and women don't care. Personally I'd like to attract a person who accepts me for who I am and appreciates how I like to express myself.

But you’d like someone who is good looking, not socially awkward, earns a good salary?
-DP

Ha!
Unless she's hooking ip with someone in sales, there is no correlation.
Now a full head of hair..

I am a woman but if I were a good looking high earning male, why would I date someone who isn’t shaving if there are so many women who do? Sure I could be struck by the lightning of love but let’s be realistic? Sorry if I am not progressive enough

Fifteen is too young to worry about this, but regardless, women who do things like sport hairy legs, dye their hair purple, wear doc martins, etc. are not on the lookout for a high-earning male. They will not be shocked to learn that men gunning for c-suite positions passed them over for blonde with smooth legs in heels.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this a trend? Asked DD if she need new razors to shave right before spring break trip - she would be wearing a bathing suit. Said no. She obviously had not shaved legs or her armpits either. I did ask her why and was it for philosophical reasons. She got uncomfortable and would not give a straight answer. She’s 15.
I don’t care much though honestly, don’t like the look. Just strange how uncomfortable she got with the discussion. It is unusual for her.

You tell her bluntly, hairy legs & armpits are not acceptable. My mom commented on mine for years & years and would tell me which spots I needed to shave better, as well as buy me interesting shaving devices. So grateful.

This is easily the saddest thing I've read on DCUM in awhile.

"Years & years"???? What a godawful mother you had.

I insist on reading that post as sarcasm.

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Serious question, are people really looking that closely at people’s legs at the pool or beach? Because that’s really gross on many levels. Secondly, who cares if someone has hair or not?

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Anonymous wrote:What I would say:
Look, I can tell you that no matter what they say, and especially what other girls or women say, most boys and men prefer shaved. Now, I am not saying you should make sacrifices to be liked by boys better. All I am saying is that’s a well known fact, it’s just not ok to say it outright anymore because equality and all that. It is up to you how to deal with the knowledge I shared with you, I am not going to come back to this conversation unless you bring it up, and thank you for listening despite feeling uncomfortable!

This article is mostly about armpit hair but OPs daughter is hardly alone, younger women are shaving less than we did
https://nypost.com/2022/03/02/gen-z-gals-on-growing-out-body-hair-its-sexy-and-empowering/"35 percent of Americans have no preference if women shave or not, while 7 percent said they should not shave. For respondents between the ages of 18 and 35, female fur proved to be even less of an issue, with a majority confessing that they either find armpit hair attractive or don’t care if a woman has it."

I’d like to meet a man openly admitting he prefers no hair in our turbulent times

Don’t worry, there are plenty of Andrew Tates out there

Hm, fewer than you think, or at least those who are open about it. Even a DH won’t always tell his DW he prefers when she shaves.

Nope. There are way more Andrew Tate fans than you could imagine. And even a non-radical 16-year old boy who doesn’t have great social graces will have no problem loudly proclaiming that he thinks leg hair on girls is gross.

I will say though that I personally would never say to my daughter “hey fyi boys like it when you do like this” with the heavy implication that they should do it. Boys also like tight clothes, right?

Luckily plenty of girls don’t care what that type of boy wants

Disagree. They care, plenty.

Sure. Insecure girls or girls who like dude-bros care. Many many girls and women don't care. Personally I'd like to attract a person who accepts me for who I am and appreciates how I like to express myself.

But you’d like someone who is good looking, not socially awkward, earns a good salary?
-DP

Ha!
Unless she's hooking ip with someone in sales, there is no correlation.
Now a full head of hair..

I am a woman but if I were a good looking high earning male, why would I date someone who isn’t shaving if there are so many women who do? Sure I could be struck by the lightning of love but let’s be realistic? Sorry if I am not progressive enough

Well, hopefully there is no good looking high earning male concerning himself with dating this 15 year old girl.

OP, I wonder if she was reluctant to talk a kitchen it be wise she heard your question as criticism. Many times mothers seem like they’re being critical to kids even when the mothers aren’t feeling critical. At least that’s been my experience both as a daughter and a mother.

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question, are people really looking that closely at people’s legs at the pool or beach? Because that’s really gross on many levels. Secondly, who cares if someone has hair or not?

DD has pale skin and very dark hair on her legs, and a lot of it. I don't think you have to be looking that closely to notice it.

As to your second question, we all know that everyone is obsessed with policing women's bodies.

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Anonymous wrote:What I would say:
Look, I can tell you that no matter what they say, and especially what other girls or women say, most boys and men prefer shaved. Now, I am not saying you should make sacrifices to be liked by boys better. All I am saying is that’s a well known fact, it’s just not ok to say it outright anymore because equality and all that. It is up to you how to deal with the knowledge I shared with you, I am not going to come back to this conversation unless you bring it up, and thank you for listening despite feeling uncomfortable!

This article is mostly about armpit hair but OPs daughter is hardly alone, younger women are shaving less than we did
https://nypost.com/2022/03/02/gen-z-gals-on-growing-out-body-hair-its-sexy-and-empowering/"35 percent of Americans have no preference if women shave or not, while 7 percent said they should not shave. For respondents between the ages of 18 and 35, female fur proved to be even less of an issue, with a majority confessing that they either find armpit hair attractive or don’t care if a woman has it."

I’d like to meet a man openly admitting he prefers no hair in our turbulent times

Don’t worry, there are plenty of Andrew Tates out there

Hm, fewer than you think, or at least those who are open about it. Even a DH won’t always tell his DW he prefers when she shaves.

Nope. There are way more Andrew Tate fans than you could imagine. And even a non-radical 16-year old boy who doesn’t have great social graces will have no problem loudly proclaiming that he thinks leg hair on girls is gross.

I will say though that I personally would never say to my daughter “hey fyi boys like it when you do like this” with the heavy implication that they should do it. Boys also like tight clothes, right?

Luckily plenty of girls don’t care what that type of boy wants

Disagree. They care, plenty.

Sure. Insecure girls or girls who like dude-bros care. Many many girls and women don't care. Personally I'd like to attract a person who accepts me for who I am and appreciates how I like to express myself.

But you’d like someone who is good looking, not socially awkward, earns a good salary?
-DP

Ha!
Unless she's hooking ip with someone in sales, there is no correlation.
Now a full head of hair..

I am a woman but if I were a good looking high earning male, why would I date someone who isn’t shaving if there are so many women who do? Sure I could be struck by the lightning of love but let’s be realistic? Sorry if I am not progressive enough

Fifteen is too young to worry about this, but regardless, women who do things like sport hairy legs, dye their hair purple, wear doc martins, etc. are not on the lookout for a high-earning male. They will not be shocked to learn that men gunning for c-suite positions passed them over for blonde with smooth legs in heels.

Eh, first woman who comes to mind when you say purple hair and Docs is a college friend who married a c-suite tech guy. So.

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Anonymous wrote:What I would say:
Look, I can tell you that no matter what they say, and especially what other girls or women say, most boys and men prefer shaved. Now, I am not saying you should make sacrifices to be liked by boys better. All I am saying is that’s a well known fact, it’s just not ok to say it outright anymore because equality and all that. It is up to you how to deal with the knowledge I shared with you, I am not going to come back to this conversation unless you bring it up, and thank you for listening despite feeling uncomfortable!

This article is mostly about armpit hair but OPs daughter is hardly alone, younger women are shaving less than we did
https://nypost.com/2022/03/02/gen-z-gals-on-growing-out-body-hair-its-sexy-and-empowering/"35 percent of Americans have no preference if women shave or not, while 7 percent said they should not shave. For respondents between the ages of 18 and 35, female fur proved to be even less of an issue, with a majority confessing that they either find armpit hair attractive or don’t care if a woman has it."

I’d like to meet a man openly admitting he prefers no hair in our turbulent times

Don’t worry, there are plenty of Andrew Tates out there

Hm, fewer than you think, or at least those who are open about it. Even a DH won’t always tell his DW he prefers when she shaves.

Nope. There are way more Andrew Tate fans than you could imagine. And even a non-radical 16-year old boy who doesn’t have great social graces will have no problem loudly proclaiming that he thinks leg hair on girls is gross.

I will say though that I personally would never say to my daughter “hey fyi boys like it when you do like this” with the heavy implication that they should do it. Boys also like tight clothes, right?

Luckily plenty of girls don’t care what that type of boy wants

Disagree. They care, plenty.

Sure. Insecure girls or girls who like dude-bros care. Many many girls and women don't care. Personally I'd like to attract a person who accepts me for who I am and appreciates how I like to express myself.

But you’d like someone who is good looking, not socially awkward, earns a good salary?
-DP

Ha!
Unless she's hooking ip with someone in sales, there is no correlation.
Now a full head of hair..

I am a woman but if I were a good looking high earning male, why would I date someone who isn’t shaving if there are so many women who do? Sure I could be struck by the lightning of love but let’s be realistic? Sorry if I am not progressive enough

Come on
That type is looking for arm candy (smart arm candy, but there you have it) Tell your kid to go for it. Someone has to be the first wife.

And my statement was that good looking doesn't correlate to high earning for males. But as I said, a full head of hair does.