DD suddenly stops shaving

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Anonymous wrote:What I would say:
Look, I can tell you that no matter what they say, and especially what other girls or women say, most boys and men prefer shaved. Now, I am not saying you should make sacrifices to be liked by boys better. All I am saying is that’s a well known fact, it’s just not ok to say it outright anymore because equality and all that. It is up to you how to deal with the knowledge I shared with you, I am not going to come back to this conversation unless you bring it up, and thank you for listening despite feeling uncomfortable!

This article is mostly about armpit hair but OPs daughter is hardly alone, younger women are shaving less than we did
https://nypost.com/2022/03/02/gen-z-gals-on-growing-out-body-hair-its-sexy-and-empowering/"35 percent of Americans have no preference if women shave or not, while 7 percent said they should not shave. For respondents between the ages of 18 and 35, female fur proved to be even less of an issue, with a majority confessing that they either find armpit hair attractive or don’t care if a woman has it."

I’d like to meet a man openly admitting he prefers no hair in our turbulent times

Don’t worry, there are plenty of Andrew Tates out there

Hm, fewer than you think, or at least those who are open about it. Even a DH won’t always tell his DW he prefers when she shaves.

Nope. There are way more Andrew Tate fans than you could imagine. And even a non-radical 16-year old boy who doesn’t have great social graces will have no problem loudly proclaiming that he thinks leg hair on girls is gross.

I will say though that I personally would never say to my daughter “hey fyi boys like it when you do like this” with the heavy implication that they should do it. Boys also like tight clothes, right?

Luckily plenty of girls don’t care what that type of boy wants

Disagree. They care, plenty.

Sure. Insecure girls or girls who like dude-bros care. Many many girls and women don't care. Personally I'd like to attract a person who accepts me for who I am and appreciates how I like to express myself.

But you’d like someone who is good looking, not socially awkward, earns a good salary?
-DP

Ha!
Unless she's hooking ip with someone in sales, there is no correlation.
Now a full head of hair..

I am a woman but if I were a good looking high earning male, why would I date someone who isn’t shaving if there are so many women who do? Sure I could be struck by the lightning of love but let’s be realistic? Sorry if I am not progressive enough

You presume all men prefer shaved women. Do you think women shaved body hair before the mid-20th century? Do you think that men were frustrated for millennia because the women they slept with weren't shaven?

It's a cultural preference. That is all. Not some preternatural thing. It's the same with male facial hair. American women today mostly prefer men without facial hair, but there are many societies of the present and past where men with facial hair are and were considered more attractive. And there are countries in Europe today where it is common for women not to shave their bodies and men are not going around complaining about it.

We are in the 21st century america and we have choice
Except for some guys with a sincere preference everyone prefers no hair
It’s ok to not care but it’s just a fact

"Everyone" -- are you God that you know this "fact"? Who is your "everyone" anyway, just males? And by no hair - you think all men are shaving their entire bodies? You think all women like hairless men?

It is a cultural thing. That is why you have your preference.

You are doing reductio ad absurdum
Desirable men in the US and Europe will prefer no hair in most cases.
If they prefer otherwise they will tell their woman, I am pretty sure
I don’t know much about lesbians or people outside of the broadly defined western culture so I can’t attest to that

Those of us who don’t consider ourselves property find this pretty silly.

You’re also just…wrong. I’ve dated high status men in both the U.S and Europe (married one in the U.S) and found their preferences were varied. It’s almost like people are all different and the ones that get hung up thinking they know what “everyone” wants are particularly insecure about their status.

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Anonymous wrote:What I would say:
Look, I can tell you that no matter what they say, and especially what other girls or women say, most boys and men prefer shaved. Now, I am not saying you should make sacrifices to be liked by boys better. All I am saying is that’s a well known fact, it’s just not ok to say it outright anymore because equality and all that. It is up to you how to deal with the knowledge I shared with you, I am not going to come back to this conversation unless you bring it up, and thank you for listening despite feeling uncomfortable!

This article is mostly about armpit hair but OPs daughter is hardly alone, younger women are shaving less than we did
https://nypost.com/2022/03/02/gen-z-gals-on-growing-out-body-hair-its-sexy-and-empowering/"35 percent of Americans have no preference if women shave or not, while 7 percent said they should not shave. For respondents between the ages of 18 and 35, female fur proved to be even less of an issue, with a majority confessing that they either find armpit hair attractive or don’t care if a woman has it."

I’d like to meet a man openly admitting he prefers no hair in our turbulent times

Don’t worry, there are plenty of Andrew Tates out there

Hm, fewer than you think, or at least those who are open about it. Even a DH won’t always tell his DW he prefers when she shaves.

Nope. There are way more Andrew Tate fans than you could imagine. And even a non-radical 16-year old boy who doesn’t have great social graces will have no problem loudly proclaiming that he thinks leg hair on girls is gross.

I will say though that I personally would never say to my daughter “hey fyi boys like it when you do like this” with the heavy implication that they should do it. Boys also like tight clothes, right?

Luckily plenty of girls don’t care what that type of boy wants

Disagree. They care, plenty.

Sure. Insecure girls or girls who like dude-bros care. Many many girls and women don't care. Personally I'd like to attract a person who accepts me for who I am and appreciates how I like to express myself.

But you’d like someone who is good looking, not socially awkward, earns a good salary?
-DP

Ha!
Unless she's hooking ip with someone in sales, there is no correlation.
Now a full head of hair..

I am a woman but if I were a good looking high earning male, why would I date someone who isn’t shaving if there are so many women who do? Sure I could be struck by the lightning of love but let’s be realistic? Sorry if I am not progressive enough

You presume all men prefer shaved women. Do you think women shaved body hair before the mid-20th century? Do you think that men were frustrated for millennia because the women they slept with weren't shaven?

It's a cultural preference. That is all. Not some preternatural thing. It's the same with male facial hair. American women today mostly prefer men without facial hair, but there are many societies of the present and past where men with facial hair are and were considered more attractive. And there are countries in Europe today where it is common for women not to shave their bodies and men are not going around complaining about it.

We are in the 21st century america and we have choice
Except for some guys with a sincere preference everyone prefers no hair
It’s ok to not care but it’s just a fact

"Everyone" -- are you God that you know this "fact"? Who is your "everyone" anyway, just males? And by no hair - you think all men are shaving their entire bodies? You think all women like hairless men?

It is a cultural thing. That is why you have your preference.

You are doing reductio ad absurdum
Desirable men in the US and Europe will prefer no hair in most cases.
If they prefer otherwise they will tell their woman, I am pretty sure

I don’t know much about lesbians or people outside of the broadly defined western culture so I can’t attest to that

Whose definition of desirable? You sound young and inexperienced.

Women tolerate hairy men. Some women even prefer hairy men.

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I would be worried too, OP.

What is this “philosophical reasons” about?

I think you really need to cut off her internet access.

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Anonymous wrote:I would be worried too, OP.

What is this “philosophical reasons” about?

I think you really need to cut off her internet access.

+1 Check her internet history and make sure she is only following smooth, thin, heavily filtered young women. (The thinner, the better, really.) For that is the one true path to attaining a high earning man who will cherish her for as long as her good looks last. Praise be.

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Google Courbet “Origin of the World” if you want to see what men of the past think a woman should look like with regard to body hair.

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Anonymous wrote:What I would say:
Look, I can tell you that no matter what they say, and especially what other girls or women say, most boys and men prefer shaved. Now, I am not saying you should make sacrifices to be liked by boys better. All I am saying is that’s a well known fact, it’s just not ok to say it outright anymore because equality and all that. It is up to you how to deal with the knowledge I shared with you, I am not going to come back to this conversation unless you bring it up, and thank you for listening despite feeling uncomfortable!

why would I want to encourage my child to be sexually attractive? I mean, if she seems sad that other girls are dating and she isnt, I would bring it up, but my kid seems perfectly happy with just having friends. Just friends and hairy pits.