DD suddenly stops shaving

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Anonymous wrote:What I would say:
Look, I can tell you that no matter what they say, and especially what other girls or women say, most boys and men prefer shaved. Now, I am not saying you should make sacrifices to be liked by boys better. All I am saying is that’s a well known fact, it’s just not ok to say it outright anymore because equality and all that. It is up to you how to deal with the knowledge I shared with you, I am not going to come back to this conversation unless you bring it up, and thank you for listening despite feeling uncomfortable!

This article is mostly about armpit hair but OPs daughter is hardly alone, younger women are shaving less than we did
https://nypost.com/2022/03/02/gen-z-gals-on-growing-out-body-hair-its-sexy-and-empowering/"35 percent of Americans have no preference if women shave or not, while 7 percent said they should not shave. For respondents between the ages of 18 and 35, female fur proved to be even less of an issue, with a majority confessing that they either find armpit hair attractive or don’t care if a woman has it."

I’d like to meet a man openly admitting he prefers no hair in our turbulent times

Don’t worry, there are plenty of Andrew Tates out there

Hm, fewer than you think, or at least those who are open about it. Even a DH won’t always tell his DW he prefers when she shaves.

Nope. There are way more Andrew Tate fans than you could imagine. And even a non-radical 16-year old boy who doesn’t have great social graces will have no problem loudly proclaiming that he thinks leg hair on girls is gross.

I will say though that I personally would never say to my daughter “hey fyi boys like it when you do like this” with the heavy implication that they should do it. Boys also like tight clothes, right?

Luckily plenty of girls don’t care what that type of boy wants

Disagree. They care, plenty.

Sure. Insecure girls or girls who like dude-bros care. Many many girls and women don't care. Personally I'd like to attract a person who accepts me for who I am and appreciates how I like to express myself.

But you’d like someone who is good looking, not socially awkward, earns a good salary?
-DP

lol I love that PP wants to be loved and accepted and appreciated and you're like "but money!! looks!!! social standing!!!"

Some people are just more superficial than others I guess.

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Anonymous wrote:Which is why not shaving can protect you from being sought after by boys, especially if you are scared of them.

I would talk to my dad if I was OP. Is dd just making a statement, or has she already been sexually assaulted?

This thread has gone off the rails. You all are nuts. I think I might stop shaving myself.

LOL +1, what is happening.

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Anonymous wrote:What I would say:
Look, I can tell you that no matter what they say, and especially what other girls or women say, most boys and men prefer shaved. Now, I am not saying you should make sacrifices to be liked by boys better. All I am saying is that’s a well known fact, it’s just not ok to say it outright anymore because equality and all that. It is up to you how to deal with the knowledge I shared with you, I am not going to come back to this conversation unless you bring it up, and thank you for listening despite feeling uncomfortable!

This article is mostly about armpit hair but OPs daughter is hardly alone, younger women are shaving less than we did
https://nypost.com/2022/03/02/gen-z-gals-on-growing-out-body-hair-its-sexy-and-empowering/"35 percent of Americans have no preference if women shave or not, while 7 percent said they should not shave. For respondents between the ages of 18 and 35, female fur proved to be even less of an issue, with a majority confessing that they either find armpit hair attractive or don’t care if a woman has it."

I’d like to meet a man openly admitting he prefers no hair in our turbulent times

Don’t worry, there are plenty of Andrew Tates out there

Hm, fewer than you think, or at least those who are open about it. Even a DH won’t always tell his DW he prefers when she shaves.

Nope. There are way more Andrew Tate fans than you could imagine. And even a non-radical 16-year old boy who doesn’t have great social graces will have no problem loudly proclaiming that he thinks leg hair on girls is gross.

I will say though that I personally would never say to my daughter “hey fyi boys like it when you do like this” with the heavy implication that they should do it. Boys also like tight clothes, right?

Luckily plenty of girls don’t care what that type of boy wants

Disagree. They care, plenty.

Sure. Insecure girls or girls who like dude-bros care. Many many girls and women don't care. Personally I'd like to attract a person who accepts me for who I am and appreciates how I like to express myself.

But you’d like someone who is good looking, not socially awkward, earns a good salary?
-DP

Ha!
Unless she's hooking ip with someone in sales, there is no correlation.
Now a full head of hair..

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I have never shaved. It's people who think that the prepubescent look should be the norm who are weird, not your daughter. Leave her alone.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a personal question and you kept pressing. Stop being critical.

She is your daughter & you have a right & a duty to be concerned.

Have a polite & calm discussion with your daughter.

+1. If nothing else it's poor hygiene and looks dirty. I put it in the same category of - you must shower, you must wash your hair, you must keep yourself clean and presentable looking.

I wouldn't push right off the bat, but I would start a conversation and let her know that this is something that, as an adult, she needs to take care of.

Does that include ALL body hair? Cause I would love to hear the polite & calm discussion where you tell your daughter she has to get a Brazilian or else she's gross.

Ok I am old but I would very much appreciate if I learned that there is an option to wax “down there” from my mother and not my first sex partner lol

Sorry for you, BTW porn makes boys think it should all be removed down there so if your DD is just getting a Brazilian, she may still have that special convo with her first.

Brazilian IS when everything is removed

Ah got ya, not that familiar with that level. Sounds like your DD is good to go.

Did PP say they had a daughter?

Also, love your level of confidence when you clearly have no clue what you’re even talking about.

Omg did you READthe op? They say they have a dd!

I was talking about PP, not OP. The one who corrected you about what Brazilian means.

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She is your daughter & you have a right & a duty to be concerned.

Have a polite & calm discussion with your daughter.

Totally agree with this advice. Your instincts are right, and this is a red alert... No one loves your kid like you and her dad do. I would lovingly and calmly find out what her thinking is. Help her to see she is a beautiful human being -- inside and out -- and that fashion, how we groom, etc. communicates who we are within the current cultural context. We all don uniforms of sorts... What uniform is she trying to wear? Yes, fashions change, but what is the message she is signaling right now through this fashion choice? The uniform she chooses will also shape how she sees herself.

Ask what she thinks she's saying by not shaving. Then find out where this is coming from. Who or what has caused her to develop this philosophy? Someone from school? A friend? Someone on social media? Why does the source's opinion matter?

At best, maybe she's just afraid she'll cut herself with the razor. Who even likes to shave, right? At worst, someone could be lying to her about who she is as a young woman, and she has taken her first steps down a dangerous path. Save your child from the disaster you sense could be ahead.

I really hope this is a joke, but in case it’s not, reread the bolded from the opposite point of view. Who or what has caused us as women to feel like we have to do this to be worthy of love?

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A lot of teens aren't shaving anymore, OP. Have you been hiding under a rock for the past 5-6 years?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a personal question and you kept pressing. Stop being critical.

She is your daughter & you have a right & a duty to be concerned.

Have a polite & calm discussion with your daughter.

+1. If nothing else it's poor hygiene and looks dirty. I put it in the same category of - you must shower, you must wash your hair, you must keep yourself clean and presentable looking.

I wouldn't push right off the bat, but I would start a conversation and let her know that this is something that, as an adult, she needs to take care of.

If this is the case, then she should probably shave her head hair, too. Presumably, she is washing underarms, probably more frequently than her head hair, so nope, granny, this is not a hygiene issue. YOU are maybe the hygiene issue here.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s so weird that one poster never came back to answer why body hair is unhygienic for girls, but fine for boys 🤔

NP. Body hair certainly can be unhygienic for boys; parents need to teach them about the importance of showering, deodorant, etc. Most boys, at least when they become aware of girls judging them, learn to keep clean.

But everyone knows that ladies do not have unwanted hair on certain body parts.

So will you be inspecting your teen daughter’s vulva regularly, to ensure hairlessness?

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Anonymous wrote:Is this a trend? Asked DD if she need new razors to shave right before spring break trip - she would be wearing a bathing suit. Said no. She obviously had not shaved legs or her armpits either. I did ask her why and was it for philosophical reasons. She got uncomfortable and would not give a straight answer. She’s 15.
I don’t care much though honestly, don’t like the look. Just strange how uncomfortable she got with the discussion. It is unusual for her.

You tell her bluntly, hairy legs & armpits are not acceptable. My mom commented on mine for years & years and would tell me which spots I needed to shave better, as well as buy me interesting shaving devices. So grateful.

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OP here - lots of projecting. I don’t know any other girls who aren’t shaving, though I don’t look all that closely. This is a change and I just assumed she needed razors which is why I asked. It was the level of discomfort- we really talked about most things together just fine- that caught me off guard. That and her redial to talk about it.
Normally she would easily say- I think this or that- if she had a strong belief in something.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here - lots of projecting. I don’t know any other girls who aren’t shaving, though I don’t look all that closely. This is a change and I just assumed she needed razors which is why I asked. It was the level of discomfort- we really talked about most things together just fine- that caught me off guard. That and her redial to talk about it.
Normally she would easily say- I think this or that- if she had a strong belief in something.

Perhaps because she knows you don’t like it and she doesn’t want to deal with the drama of defending her choice to you. Leave it be. It’s hurting absolutely no one for her to have done hair sticking out of her swim suit.

As a side note, body hair is also an external cue that she may be queer. That may be adding to the discomfort she has in talking about it with you. Just keep reinforcing that it’s her body, her sexuality, and you love her no matter what.

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Anonymous wrote:I have never shaved. It's people who think that the prepubescent look should be the norm who are weird, not your daughter. Leave her alone.

Cannot believe there are grown women that don’t at least shave bikini line. Do you never wear a swimsuit or just don’t care that pubes hang out?

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Anonymous wrote:I have never shaved. It's people who think that the prepubescent look should be the norm who are weird, not your daughter. Leave her alone.

Cannot believe there are grown women that don’t at least shave bikini line. Do you never wear a swimsuit or just don’t care that pubes hang out?

Why are you looking so closely?

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Anonymous wrote:I have never shaved. It's people who think that the prepubescent look should be the norm who are weird, not your daughter. Leave her alone.

Cannot believe there are grown women that don’t at least shave bikini line. Do you never wear a swimsuit or just don’t care that pubes hang out?

DP. Swim shorts are very popular.