WashU, Vanderbilt, or Northwestern?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Northwestern is clearly the most prestigious. WashU clearly the least.

Depends on who you ask. Each year, universities themselves choose their peer colleges when reporting to the US Dept of Education.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/an-art-and-a-science-colleges-tricky-task-of-selecting-peers

All three colleges being discussed (put down?) here on this thread chose the other two as their peers. Hopefully this will put an end to this thread which has degenerated over time, but I doubt it.

Can’t get past paywall but if it’s coming straight from the horses mouth…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Northwestern is clearly the most prestigious. WashU clearly the least.

Depends on who you ask. Each year, universities themselves choose their peer colleges when reporting to the US Dept of Education.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/an-art-and-a-science-colleges-tricky-task-of-selecting-peers

All three colleges being discussed (put down?) here on this thread chose the other two as their peers. Hopefully this will put an end to this thread which has degenerated over time, but I doubt it.

Can’t get past paywall but if it’s coming straight from the horses mouth…

It's not a paywall. You have to register but it's free.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Northwestern is clearly the most prestigious. WashU clearly the least.

Depends on who you ask. Each year, universities themselves choose their peer colleges when reporting to the US Dept of Education.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/an-art-and-a-science-colleges-tricky-task-of-selecting-peers

All three colleges being discussed (put down?) here on this thread chose the other two as their peers. Hopefully this will put an end to this thread which has degenerated over time, but I doubt it.

Can’t get past paywall but if it’s coming straight from the horses mouth…

It's not a paywall. You have to register but it's free.

You’re right. Northwestern, Washington Univ and Vanderbilt do consider each other peer institutions (2022)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Northwestern is clearly the most prestigious. WashU clearly the least.

Depends on who you ask. Each year, universities themselves choose their peer colleges when reporting to the US Dept of Education.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/an-art-and-a-science-colleges-tricky-task-of-selecting-peers

All three colleges being discussed (put down?) here on this thread chose the other two as their peers. Hopefully, this will put an end to this thread which has degenerated over time, but I doubt it.

But Northwestern has an edge in the number of universities that selected it as peers: JHU, UChicago, Cornell, Brown, Rice, Vanderbilt, WUSTL, Notre Dame (8 t20s).

Vanderbilt has: Dartmouth, WUSTL, Notre Dame, Northwestern, Rice (5 t20s)

WUSTL has: Cornell, Vanderbilt, UChicago, Notre Dame, Brown, Northwestern, Rice (7 t20s)

Therefore Northwestern~WUSTL>>>Vanderbilt. End of debate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Northwestern is clearly the most prestigious. WashU clearly the least.

Depends on who you ask. Each year, universities themselves choose their peer colleges when reporting to the US Dept of Education.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/an-art-and-a-science-colleges-tricky-task-of-selecting-peers

All three colleges being discussed (put down?) here on this thread chose the other two as their peers. Hopefully this will put an end to this thread which has degenerated over time, but I doubt it.

Can’t get past paywall but if it’s coming straight from the horses mouth…

That article basically describes in great detail why relying on which schools choose which schools as peers is completely flawed and unreliable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Northwestern is clearly the most prestigious. WashU clearly the least.

Depends on who you ask. Each year, universities themselves choose their peer colleges when reporting to the US Dept of Education.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/an-art-and-a-science-colleges-tricky-task-of-selecting-peers

All three colleges being discussed (put down?) here on this thread chose the other two as their peers. Hopefully this will put an end to this thread which has degenerated over time, but I doubt it.

Can’t get past paywall but if it’s coming straight from the horses mouth…

This is useless. WashU also selected Harvard Yale and Princeton, among other schools, as its peers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Northwestern is clearly the most prestigious. WashU clearly the least.

Depends on who you ask. Each year, universities themselves choose their peer colleges when reporting to the US Dept of Education.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/an-art-and-a-science-colleges-tricky-task-of-selecting-peers

All three colleges being discussed (put down?) here on this thread chose the other two as their peers. Hopefully this will put an end to this thread which has degenerated over time, but I doubt it.

Can’t get past paywall but if it’s coming straight from the horses mouth…

This is useless. WashU also selected Harvard Yale and Princeton, among other schools, as its peers.

You have to look at whether these schools select WashU back... and the answer is no.

Yale, for example, selects all eight Ivies, Stanford, UChicago, and MIT. Harvard selects Princeton, Yale, and Stanford. Stanford selects all eight Ivies, MIT, and JHU.

WashU selects Upenn, Caltech, MIT, Yale, and Stanford - guess what? None of them selects WashU as a peer, which reveals a lot...

[Anonymous]

op: which school did your DC choose?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Northwestern is clearly the most prestigious. WashU clearly the least.

Depends on who you ask. Each year, universities themselves choose their peer colleges when reporting to the US Dept of Education.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/an-art-and-a-science-colleges-tricky-task-of-selecting-peers

All three colleges being discussed (put down?) here on this thread chose the other two as their peers. Hopefully this will put an end to this thread which has degenerated over time, but I doubt it.

Can’t get past paywall but if it’s coming straight from the horses mouth…

This is useless. WashU also selected Harvard Yale and Princeton, among other schools, as its peers.

You have to look at whether these schools select WashU back... and the answer is no.

Yale, for example, selects all eight Ivies, Stanford, UChicago, and MIT. Harvard selects Princeton, Yale, and Stanford. Stanford selects all eight Ivies, MIT, and JHU.

WashU selects Upenn, Caltech, MIT, Yale, and Stanford - guess what? None of them selects WashU as a peer, which reveals a lot...

You may not realize it but what you post is pretty stupid. First, we are talking only about Northwestern, WashU, and Vandy and ALL three select each other. But to use your dumb line of reasoning, Northwestern chose Harvard, Caltech, Stanford, and Princeton (among others) that guess what, don't choose Northwestern back. Similar with Vandy. I guess that "reveals" a lot about Northwestern and Vandy. Next time think before you post.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Poets&Quants' Top Ten B-Schools of 2023:

https://poetsandquantsforundergrads.com/rankings/poetsquants-best-undergraduate-business-schools-of-2023/

Why would the ranking of undergraduate school rankings be important when OP's kid doesn't want to study business, and at least one school on the list (NU) doesn't have an undergraduate business school?

Vandy doesn’t have an undergrad school of business

They have an equivalent they just call it something else.

No, they really don’t.

- Vandy parent

Yes they do
- Vandy current parent

No, they really don't. Stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Vanderbilt > WasU >= Northwestern. IIRC NW is more of a humanities school

Funny that the first comment on this thread got it so, so, so wrong.

[Anonymous]

I would decide between Northwestern and Vandy based on fit

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DS is interested in economics and CS, these are his options. Money isn’t a problem, any thoughts?

US News Best Undergrauate Economics 2023-2024:

Northwestern #8

Vanderbilt #13

WashUStL #15

US News Best Undergraduate CS 2023-2024:

Northwestern #31

WashUStL #41

Vanderbilt #50

Among the 3 listed schools, Northwestern ranks the highest for both undergrad Economics & CS.

All 3 are excellent universities, but Northwestern does have a strong reputation for undergrad economics.

[Anonymous]

This conversation has gone completely off the rails by the ranking vampires. All three are terrific schools. What a wonderful problem to have. This is 100 percent about fit. Your kid will know where they feel at home after an extended visit. Each school has a distinct vibe. Just be mindful that it is freezing cold for most of the school year at Northwestern. Don't be fooled by April. There's an upside and a downside to being right on Lake Michigan. But there are no bad choices here. Congratulations

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps you’re confusing UChicago with Northwestern as UChicago overshadows Northwestern in econ and pretty much everything else

UChicago can be better than NU and I can still reccomend NU over WUSTL and Vandy. Not mutually exclusive.

Plus, every ranking besides USNews ranks NU above UChicago, and I know far more kids who want to go to NU than Uchicago. Where fun goes to die.

Not sure that’s a completely fair assessment. UChicago has a tough core curriculum for sure. It is rigorous and better known than NU. Perhaps those who cannot handle such rigor and want to be in Chicago go to Northwestern

lmao kids who want to have a good time while getting the same job post-grad go to Northwestern over UChicago

As well as kids who want to do music, theater, engineering, etc. go to Northwestern. People who want to live in an area where they can go out after dark (and heck even during the day) and not constantly worry about their safety go to NU.
In reality, each school has a very different feel....people should pick what appeals most to them (if they actually got into both). In my experience, the people applying to UChicago and NU are very different style of students.

If I was comfortable with the Quarter System, I would go with Northwestern. That said, WUSTL is basically in Bethesda, it is a pretty darned safe area of St Louis. Howver, given broader political conditions, I am not sure I would want to attend a school in either Missouri or Tennessee as both are basically MAGA land.