What is "woke?" Conservative author tries to define it

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Anonymous wrote:And btw if you want a book written by a smart conservative, I really liked the one about trans girls by Abigail Shrier and Prey by Ayan Hirsan-Ali. Both smart conservative women who are able to create sound arguments against wokeism. Bethany ain’t it.


Ain’t no such thing.

Although maybe they try to make arguments in better faith, I don’t know.

I do know the concern trolling by conservatives about women’s sports is inherently in bad faith given their relationship fighting the idea, however.


Show me who these conservatives who are against women’s sports.
Then show me they make up any significant portion of conservatives.
Like it or not, conservatives have daughters, wives, sisters etc who play sports.
In fact, many of them even - gasp - SUPPORT them and want them to have such opportunities.
Sorry this doesn’t fit your narrative.


You don’t remember Trump and other Very Online conservatives ridiculing the women’s national soccer team?
Or how they denigrated Brittney Griner and women’s basketball in general?


Let’s not do what republicans do. No one denigrated Brittney Griner because she was a female athlete. They were frustrated that she was prioritized when she chose to take drugs to Russia and several people who were locked up simply for being American were left in Russia.
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Anonymous wrote:And btw if you want a book written by a smart conservative, I really liked the one about trans girls by Abigail Shrier and Prey by Ayan Hirsan-Ali. Both smart conservative women who are able to create sound arguments against wokeism. Bethany ain’t it.


Ain’t no such thing.

Although maybe they try to make arguments in better faith, I don’t know.

I do know the concern trolling by conservatives about women’s sports is inherently in bad faith given their relationship fighting the idea, however.


Show me who these conservatives who are against women’s sports.
Then show me they make up any significant portion of conservatives.
Like it or not, conservatives have daughters, wives, sisters etc who play sports.
In fact, many of them even - gasp - SUPPORT them and want them to have such opportunities.
Sorry this doesn’t fit your narrative.


You don’t remember Trump and other Very Online conservatives ridiculing the women’s national soccer team?
Or how they denigrated Brittney Griner and women’s basketball in general?


Let’s not do what republicans do. No one denigrated Brittney Griner because she was a female athlete. They were frustrated that she was prioritized when she chose to take drugs to Russia and several people who were locked up simply for being American were left in Russia.


Yeah, because Republicans were so enraged with Ryan Lochte's antics.....
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I love the land acknowledgements. That one is the opposite of “woke,” it’s just telling the truth, gently and repeatedly. My home sits on Dakota and Anishinaabe land. That’s the truth.


No, it is not the truth. Your home currently sits on US (or possibly Canadian) land. There was a time in the past when Dakota or Anishinaabe-speaking people lived on the land. They almost certainly conquered other peoples to get that land. Civilizations constantly come and go -- in Europe, Asia, and Africa as well as North America.

And why should we constantly repeat the fact that Anishinaabe people formerly lived on the land? Why not gently and repeatedly state the fact that the Anishinaabe practiced cannibalism, sometimes boiling and eating their foes after battles? ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anishinaabe) These are both facts that we should study in history class. There is no need to make either into a quasi-religious incantation.

Thanks for proving my point about why I love the land acknowledgements.


Fine, you do your religious incantations and I'll do mine. Just don't make me do yours.


Pointing out that a building occupies land from which a population was genocided is not a “religious incantation,” it’s the truth no matter how you try to obfuscate (and try to share scary facts like I didn’t already know them? Do you think no one reads books?).


If it is just a fact, then why would you have to say it before every meeting? You know about the cannibalism (and the wars) of the Anishinaabe, but for some reason don't you want to state this fact before every meeting.

Should meetings in England begin by stating that they are on land previously occupied by the Normans, and previous to that by the Anglo-Saxons, and previous to that by the Romans, and previous to that by the Celts? All these groups gained their land through extremely violent wars.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:And btw if you want a book written by a smart conservative, I really liked the one about trans girls by Abigail Shrier and Prey by Ayan Hirsan-Ali. Both smart conservative women who are able to create sound arguments against wokeism. Bethany ain’t it.


Ain’t no such thing.

Although maybe they try to make arguments in better faith, I don’t know.

I do know the concern trolling by conservatives about women’s sports is inherently in bad faith given their relationship fighting the idea, however.


Show me who these conservatives who are against women’s sports.
Then show me they make up any significant portion of conservatives.
Like it or not, conservatives have daughters, wives, sisters etc who play sports.
In fact, many of them even - gasp - SUPPORT them and want them to have such opportunities.
Sorry this doesn’t fit your narrative.


You don’t remember Trump and other Very Online conservatives ridiculing the women’s national soccer team?
Or how they denigrated Brittney Griner and women’s basketball in general?


Let’s not do what republicans do. No one denigrated Brittney Griner because she was a female athlete. They were frustrated that she was prioritized when she chose to take drugs to Russia and several people who were locked up simply for being American were left in Russia.


Oh come on. If she'd been a straight white baseball player they wouldn't have said a word.
Anonymous
“Mandel edits the children's book series "Heroes of Liberty," which consists of biographies of right-wing cultural and political figures marketed to conservative families. These books in this series avoid mention of issues that could cause discomfort to conservative parents, such as LGBT identities or the out-of-wedlock birth of Alexander Hamilton.[12]“

Hahaha
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:And btw if you want a book written by a smart conservative, I really liked the one about trans girls by Abigail Shrier and Prey by Ayan Hirsan-Ali. Both smart conservative women who are able to create sound arguments against wokeism. Bethany ain’t it.


Ain’t no such thing.

Although maybe they try to make arguments in better faith, I don’t know.

I do know the concern trolling by conservatives about women’s sports is inherently in bad faith given their relationship fighting the idea, however.


Show me who these conservatives who are against women’s sports.
Then show me they make up any significant portion of conservatives.
Like it or not, conservatives have daughters, wives, sisters etc who play sports.
In fact, many of them even - gasp - SUPPORT them and want them to have such opportunities.
Sorry this doesn’t fit your narrative.


You don’t remember Trump and other Very Online conservatives ridiculing the women’s national soccer team?
Or how they denigrated Brittney Griner and women’s basketball in general?


Let’s not do what republicans do. No one denigrated Brittney Griner because she was a female athlete. They were frustrated that she was prioritized when she chose to take drugs to Russia and several people who were locked up simply for being American were left in Russia.

Whelan was definitely not “simply being American in Russia” but he’s a white man so everything he was doing was presumed to be OK.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:“Mandel edits the children's book series "Heroes of Liberty," which consists of biographies of right-wing cultural and political figures marketed to conservative families. These books in this series avoid mention of issues that could cause discomfort to conservative parents, such as LGBT identities or the out-of-wedlock birth of Alexander Hamilton.[12]“

Hahaha

The best part was she claimed it was nonpartisan and when I saw that on my ILs house at Fox News I was like well she has a point, you don’t really see kids books about conservative figures, this seems appropriate, as long as Bethany is serious about “not wanting to indoctrinate children” which is what she said.

Immediately publishes a book on Rush Limbaugh.
Anonymous
Mandel is stupid utterly incompetent.

Who supports that idiot?

keep her and her crap out of our schools.

Bethany Mandel was born a Jew. If she thinks the NAZI's are not coming for her too she's and idiot. YEP her parents failed.
Never Forget.

Anonymous
What schooling does Bethany have? None.
What gives her the right to decide what kids learn in school?

Nothing she is literally a dummy.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What schooling does Bethany have? None.
What gives her the right to decide what kids learn in school?

Nothing she is literally a dummy.



She has a bachelor’s degree
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What schooling does Bethany have? None.
What gives her the right to decide what kids learn in school?

Nothing she is literally a dummy.


She went to Rutgers and has a degree in Judaic studies, which, funnily enough, is being attacked by DeSantis as a woke college major that doesn’t belong in Florida.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Mandel is stupid utterly incompetent.

Who supports that idiot?

keep her and her crap out of our schools.

Bethany Mandel was born a Jew. If she thinks the NAZI's are not coming for her too she's and idiot. YEP her parents failed.
Never Forget.


She’s a patrilineal Jew and her dad skipped out so she says she was raised by her catholic mom in either a trailer park in upstate New York or in NYC, depending on what’s most convenient to her argument at the time.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:]
Anonymous wrote:
I love the land acknowledgements. That one is the opposite of “woke,” it’s just telling the truth, gently and repeatedly. My home sits on Dakota and Anishinaabe land. That’s the truth.


No, it is not the truth. Your home currently sits on US (or possibly Canadian) land. There was a time in the past when Dakota or Anishinaabe-speaking people lived on the land. They almost certainly conquered other peoples to get that land. Civilizations constantly come and go -- in Europe, Asia, and Africa as well as North America.

And why should we constantly repeat the fact that Anishinaabe people formerly lived on the land? Why not gently and repeatedly state the fact that the Anishinaabe practiced cannibalism, sometimes boiling and eating their foes after battles? ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anishinaabe) These are both facts that we should study in history class. There is no need to make either into a quasi-religious incantation.

Thanks for proving my point about why I love the land acknowledgements.


Fine, you do your religious incantations and I'll do mine. Just don't make me do yours.


Pointing out that a building occupies land from which a population was genocided is not a “religious incantation,” it’s the truth no matter how you try to obfuscate (and try to share scary facts like I didn’t already know them? Do you think no one reads books?).


If it is just a fact, then why would you have to say it before every meeting? You know about the cannibalism (and the wars) of the Anishinaabe, but for some reason don't you want to state this fact before every meeting.

Should meetings in England begin by stating that they are on land previously occupied by the Normans, and previous to that by the Anglo-Saxons, and previous to that by the Romans, and previous to that by the Celts? All these groups gained their land through extremely violent wars.


Hi. Democrat here. I think land acknowledgments are dumb and pointless myself but I have to say…who is doing them? Because I work for a left-leaning nonprofit and I’ve never heard anyone do one before a meeting. Is this just something conservatives imagine is happening before every meeting?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:She’s now claiming on Twitter she was thrown off because Brihanna was on a hot mic right before the interview started and she heard Brihanna “demeaning parents in colorful language.”

Her whole shtick is that she’s a homeschooling mother of six and liberals hate her because she’s a mother when in reality, every liberal woman I know has children. I have no idea why she thinks motherhood makes her special. Yes, it’s wonderful, hard, rewarding work. And she’s not the only one doing it.

I feel like people are completely missing this! This is absolutely insane to me. She’s a serious journalist and author but is thrown off by someone making snarky comments about children in front of her?

I have kids (and I’m a democrat, shocking, I know, Bethany) and my own sister is child free and once told me she didn’t understand the appeal of being a parent. Somehow I survived and was able to do my job the next day lol.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:You guys know she’s reading this and thrives on the attention, right? Enjoy her claiming on Twitter that you guys just hate her because she’s Jewish and not because she’s terrible. Wonder when her friends will show up to claim we “just don’t understand sarcasm” just like the last time we discussed her idiocy


Sadly, I have been deprived of her Twitter takes. She blocked me after the last go-round with DCUM.


Log out of Twitter and just do a search. I hate read from time to time but I never log in to Twitter.
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