Murder of Robert Wone on Peacock

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Anonymous wrote:The shoddiness of the DC lab, weakness of the USAO office and bungling of the handling of the house did the case no favors. I do believe MPD tried hard, this case was a huge focus. Had there been more blood more tests could have been run then or in the future.

I keep coming back to where did all the blood go? Down a drain or siphoned off?

I dunno if I'd say that MPD did their best, though. Wasn't it MPD who was responsible for incorrect application of the substance that was used to try to find more forensic evidence (not luminol, something else)? I definitely think that the USAO got outgunned by the defense, which is pretty predictable. I'm a social worker, not a lawyer, but it seems to me that a jury trial would probably be a better call for both sides, but ESPECIALLY the prosecution, given the problems with the case. "Murder weapon" that is probably not the murder weapon, extreme lack of forensic evidence on the scene, no confessions or movement at all from the 3 living people in the house - all of those things definitely create a reasonable doubt if you're trying to convict them of murder, but that's not what the trial was. Those things definitely create an impression that the 3 living people went to great lengths to cover things up, and juries seem more likely to make an emotional call vs a judge who would maybe see it more clinically.

+1 on jury trial

I'm shocked that the prosecutor just rolled over and let defense have the judge decide it

Isn't that the defendants' constitutionally protected choice?

I'm not sure, I'm not a lawyer. The way the doc presented it, the prosecutor said he essentially "let the defense have that one [because I'm such a good guy]," which didn't make sense to me.

The prosecutor said you have a right to a trial by jury, not a right to a trial by judge. A trial by judge can be requested by either side, but both sides have to agree to it. I think in some jurisdictions you can get a trial by judge without needing the prosecutions consent, like Maryland for instance.

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Anonymous wrote:Joe still appears to be licensed in DC.

I know his address

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Anonymous wrote:Joe still appears to be licensed in DC.

How is this possible?

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Anonymous wrote:Joe still appears to be licensed in DC.

How is this possible?

Because he was not convicted of anything unfortunately.

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Anonymous wrote:If the "friends" are back in Silver Spring, clearly they feel they can live in the area without any hassle. Are they still practicing lawyers, and are they still rich?

I know nothing about this murder, except what I've read on this thread. It seems to me, that quickly killing a grown man, draining out his blood, and cleaning up so thoroughly that no forensic evidence was found, points to very experienced killers. Very experienced killers.

If they are back in this area, and if people can find them as easily as some on this thread have been finding information about them -- then the publicity around this documentary may mean they don't stay put very long. People will start to figure out who they are. I won't be surprised if the Post or other local media or podcasters etc. try to track them down now.

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I still find it bizarre that he didn't go home after work. Newly married, doesn't live that far away - who doesn't want to sleep in their own bed? THAT part just doesn't line up for me. Oakton is not in another state. He was not working THAT late. This part does not line up for me.

It appears that one of the women in the documentary, a longtime friend of Robert Wone, also recently wrote a letter to Fox news complaining about "woke doctrine" being taught in schools. It's an uncommon name so guessing this is the same person.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/fairfax-county-va-mother-blasts-anti-secondment-amendment-writing-sample-students-assigned-analyze

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Anonymous wrote:I just finished the documentary, and I wonder how these men paid for their defense. I read somewhere that Bernie Grimm alone costs about $250K just to get to trial...did they get funding help from the gay community?

Borrowed against then sold house, I suspect. They had previously owned a house on Capitol Hill, so had some equity.

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He worked, then went to a CLE and had an early meeting the next morning. I think he was trying to fit in a bit of socializing with the friend who could not accommodate a guest, then Joe, who said fine, crash here.

DC is literally a different jurisdiction from Oakton, VA, not sure what your point is there.

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Interesting (but unrelated to the crime) interview with Joe Price about his involvement with the LGBTQ community at William and Mary: https://digitalarchive.wm.edu/handle/10288/1633
Conducted two years after the murder. He (of course) is never asked about the Wone murder, but he does talk about his relationship with Victor.

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Anonymous wrote:He worked, then went to a CLE and had an early meeting the next morning. I think he was trying to fit in a bit of socializing with the friend who could not accommodate a guest, then Joe, who said fine, crash here.

DC is literally a different jurisdiction from Oakton, VA, not sure what your point is there.

It seems like a few posters (or maybe it's just one) keep questioning his motive for staying overnight at their house. To me this is the least questionable aspect of the case. He was a lawyer and lawyers (especially in DC) are notorious for working long hours. It makes perfect sense if he was working late and had early work obligations the next morning. Crashing at a long time friend's house who happens to live very close to his office and also using it as an opportunity to socialize is a logical option. And it's already been established that he would have tried to stay at another friend's place had these friends not responded so quickly.

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Anonymous wrote:He worked, then went to a CLE and had an early meeting the next morning. I think he was trying to fit in a bit of socializing with the friend who could not accommodate a guest, then Joe, who said fine, crash here.

DC is literally a different jurisdiction from Oakton, VA, not sure what your point is there.

It seems like a few posters (or maybe it's just one) keep questioning his motive for staying overnight at their house. To me this is the least questionable aspect of the case. He was a lawyer and lawyers (especially in DC) are notorious for working long hours. It makes perfect sense if he was working late and had early work obligations the next morning. Crashing at a long time friend's house who happens to live very close to his office and also using it as an opportunity to socialize is a logical option. And it's already been established that he would have tried to stay at another friend's place had these friends not responded so quickly.

I'm one of the posters who brought up the peculiarity of him staying overnight there. Maybe I'm old, but I prefer to sleep in my own bed after a long day, and to see my spouse, and the documentary made it seem as though Oakton is on another planet, not a quick ride away. It also wasn't that late. I just have to wonder if Price made up some kind of story about needing to see him and lured him there. I realize he had also reached out to another friend, but my understanding is that he wasn't even close with Price and his partners after college.

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Does anyone know prior to that night the last time he visited Joe's home?

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Anonymous wrote:Joe still appears to be licensed in DC.

How is this possible?

Is he still practicing? Who would be friends with these people? How do they go about their lives when most people know they are guilty of such horrific and nasty crime? You have to be really mentally unstable to do that to another human being.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know prior to that night the last time he visited Joe's home?

No but they did say that that was the first time Robert had spent the night there.

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Anonymous wrote:He worked, then went to a CLE and had an early meeting the next morning. I think he was trying to fit in a bit of socializing with the friend who could not accommodate a guest, then Joe, who said fine, crash here.

DC is literally a different jurisdiction from Oakton, VA, not sure what your point is there.

It seems like a few posters (or maybe it's just one) keep questioning his motive for staying overnight at their house. To me this is the least questionable aspect of the case. He was a lawyer and lawyers (especially in DC) are notorious for working long hours. It makes perfect sense if he was working late and had early work obligations the next morning. Crashing at a long time friend's house who happens to live very close to his office and also using it as an opportunity to socialize is a logical option. And it's already been established that he would have tried to stay at another friend's place had these friends not responded so quickly.

I'm one of the posters who brought up the peculiarity of him staying overnight there. Maybe I'm old, but I prefer to sleep in my own bed after a long day, and to see my spouse, and the documentary made it seem as though Oakton is on another planet, not a quick ride away. It also wasn't that late. I just have to wonder if Price made up some kind of story about needing to see him and lured him there. I realize he had also reached out to another friend, but my understanding is that he wasn't even close with Price and his partners after college.

That's not accurate. Joe and Robert were part of a big group of William & Mary friends. The threesome hosted a birthday brunch for Robert in the months before the murder. They were close although their lifestyles were very different.