Woodward Boundary Study discussion at next BoE meeting

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Anonymous wrote:I expect Whitman to either take parts of Somerset or some slice of downtown Bethesda with BCC being the biggest beneficiary and similar rolling impact to BCC on Einstein or DCC. BCC seems to be bursting at the seams at the elementary and high school levels. That or, the neighborhoods north of Greentree getting absorbed into Whitman.

They are trying to diversify Whitman not make it whiter.

Then please tell me where they expect to draw students from and with sufficient density? I can only assume they’d get some of those Class C apartments near downtown Bethesda (near battery lane or near Arlington/Bradley). Slice up a few blocks that currently go to BCC. BCC then pulls in more East from DCC and the game of musical chairs continues.

That doesn’t make any sense. Arlington Road and Battery Lane are walking distance to BCC. BCC already pulls almost to 16th St in Silver Spring, it can’t pull any further east - it’s too far.

Sometimes I think people who make these suggestions have never looked at a map, don’t know the racial and economic mix of the areas, and definitely don’t know traffic/travel time.

Of course it can pull further east. Those Silver Spring kids are currently going to Einstein, which is farther away and essentially the same travel time. It would be different if they were going to Blair, which is closer, but that's not the current catchment, and it's already overcrowded with it's own farther-east catchment.

Sometimes I think people make up excuses for failing to consider holistic solutions out of ignorance of geography. Other times I think it's out of ignorance of the worth of their fellow human beings.

+1 The kids on Spring Avenue, Noyes, Falkland Chase - those kids would have a much easier commute to B-CC (and Silver Creek) than to Einstein (and Sligo MS). Maybe they do or don't consider that solution, in part because it would reduce the diversity at Einstein, but it shouldn't be dismissed based on proximity.

Einstein will have enough diversity even with changes. Goal should to be add diversity in Whitman. It's challenging due to location, but that should be the focus.

It's a nice thought, but the bigger issue is utilization and overcrowding.

Maybe. I could easily see diversification being the ultimate priority when they have to pick among competing priorities.

Maybe ask the parents of the kids who would be rezoned/bussed to Whitman if that's what they really want? Seems like being bussed across town to go to school with very rich kids might not be that great an experience. In the boundary analysis, going to the local school came up repeatedly as a goal for parents across the county.

Just because those parents may not want it does not mean that the county won't necessarily do it.

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Anonymous wrote:I expect Whitman to either take parts of Somerset or some slice of downtown Bethesda with BCC being the biggest beneficiary and similar rolling impact to BCC on Einstein or DCC. BCC seems to be bursting at the seams at the elementary and high school levels. That or, the neighborhoods north of Greentree getting absorbed into Whitman.

They are trying to diversify Whitman not make it whiter.

Then please tell me where they expect to draw students from and with sufficient density? I can only assume they’d get some of those Class C apartments near downtown Bethesda (near battery lane or near Arlington/Bradley). Slice up a few blocks that currently go to BCC. BCC then pulls in more East from DCC and the game of musical chairs continues.

That doesn’t make any sense. Arlington Road and Battery Lane are walking distance to BCC. BCC already pulls almost to 16th St in Silver Spring, it can’t pull any further east - it’s too far.

Sometimes I think people who make these suggestions have never looked at a map, don’t know the racial and economic mix of the areas, and definitely don’t know traffic/travel time.

Of course it can pull further east. Those Silver Spring kids are currently going to Einstein, which is farther away and essentially the same travel time. It would be different if they were going to Blair, which is closer, but that's not the current catchment, and it's already overcrowded with it's own farther-east catchment.

Sometimes I think people make up excuses for failing to consider holistic solutions out of ignorance of geography. Other times I think it's out of ignorance of the worth of their fellow human beings.

+1 The kids on Spring Avenue, Noyes, Falkland Chase - those kids would have a much easier commute to B-CC (and Silver Creek) than to Einstein (and Sligo MS). Maybe they do or don't consider that solution, in part because it would reduce the diversity at Einstein, but it shouldn't be dismissed based on proximity.

Einstein will have enough diversity even with changes. Goal should to be add diversity in Whitman. It's challenging due to location, but that should be the focus.

And why should that be the focus?

BOE resolution of special emphasis on diversity and Whitman being least diverse.

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I will love to see more diversity in Whitman.

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Anonymous wrote:I expect Whitman to either take parts of Somerset or some slice of downtown Bethesda with BCC being the biggest beneficiary and similar rolling impact to BCC on Einstein or DCC. BCC seems to be bursting at the seams at the elementary and high school levels. That or, the neighborhoods north of Greentree getting absorbed into Whitman.

They are trying to diversify Whitman not make it whiter.

Then please tell me where they expect to draw students from and with sufficient density? I can only assume they’d get some of those Class C apartments near downtown Bethesda (near battery lane or near Arlington/Bradley). Slice up a few blocks that currently go to BCC. BCC then pulls in more East from DCC and the game of musical chairs continues.

That doesn’t make any sense. Arlington Road and Battery Lane are walking distance to BCC. BCC already pulls almost to 16th St in Silver Spring, it can’t pull any further east - it’s too far.

Sometimes I think people who make these suggestions have never looked at a map, don’t know the racial and economic mix of the areas, and definitely don’t know traffic/travel time.

Of course it can pull further east. Those Silver Spring kids are currently going to Einstein, which is farther away and essentially the same travel time. It would be different if they were going to Blair, which is closer, but that's not the current catchment, and it's already overcrowded with it's own farther-east catchment.

Sometimes I think people make up excuses for failing to consider holistic solutions out of ignorance of geography. Other times I think it's out of ignorance of the worth of their fellow human beings.

+1 The kids on Spring Avenue, Noyes, Falkland Chase - those kids would have a much easier commute to B-CC (and Silver Creek) than to Einstein (and Sligo MS). Maybe they do or don't consider that solution, in part because it would reduce the diversity at Einstein, but it shouldn't be dismissed based on proximity.

Einstein will have enough diversity even with changes. Goal should to be add diversity in Whitman. It's challenging due to location, but that should be the focus.

It's a nice thought, but the bigger issue is utilization and overcrowding.

Maybe. I could easily see diversification being the ultimate priority when they have to pick among competing priorities.

Maybe ask the parents of the kids who would be rezoned/bussed to Whitman if that's what they really want? Seems like being bussed across town to go to school with very rich kids might not be that great an experience. In the boundary analysis, going to the local school came up repeatedly as a goal for parents across the county.

(some) Whitman parents: don't bus my kids across the county to scary Paint Branch! also don't bus those scary Paint Branch kids across the county to my kids' school, I'm only saying that out of concern for those scary Paint Branch kids!

It's unlikely to have much of a real impact because there's only so much they can realistically do, but I guess we can entertain hysterics like the parent that wanted to have some cross county busing program.

The irony is that no one wants or has realistically suggested cross county bussing. That's a racist fever dream meant to stir up opposition to any boundary revisions at all. With two new high schools opening, boundary revisions are happening. Folks can either engage in the process constructively or they can continue to build straw men but there is political will to deal with overcrowding in east county schools and that's going to mean that some schools become slightly more integrated.

In fact, the opposite: they have said they won't do it. But why deal with reality when you can anonymously monger fear?

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Anonymous wrote:I expect Whitman to either take parts of Somerset or some slice of downtown Bethesda with BCC being the biggest beneficiary and similar rolling impact to BCC on Einstein or DCC. BCC seems to be bursting at the seams at the elementary and high school levels. That or, the neighborhoods north of Greentree getting absorbed into Whitman.

They are trying to diversify Whitman not make it whiter.

Then please tell me where they expect to draw students from and with sufficient density? I can only assume they’d get some of those Class C apartments near downtown Bethesda (near battery lane or near Arlington/Bradley). Slice up a few blocks that currently go to BCC. BCC then pulls in more East from DCC and the game of musical chairs continues.

That doesn’t make any sense. Arlington Road and Battery Lane are walking distance to BCC. BCC already pulls almost to 16th St in Silver Spring, it can’t pull any further east - it’s too far.

Sometimes I think people who make these suggestions have never looked at a map, don’t know the racial and economic mix of the areas, and definitely don’t know traffic/travel time.

Of course it can pull further east. Those Silver Spring kids are currently going to Einstein, which is farther away and essentially the same travel time. It would be different if they were going to Blair, which is closer, but that's not the current catchment, and it's already overcrowded with it's own farther-east catchment.

Sometimes I think people make up excuses for failing to consider holistic solutions out of ignorance of geography. Other times I think it's out of ignorance of the worth of their fellow human beings.

+1 The kids on Spring Avenue, Noyes, Falkland Chase - those kids would have a much easier commute to B-CC (and Silver Creek) than to Einstein (and Sligo MS). Maybe they do or don't consider that solution, in part because it would reduce the diversity at Einstein, but it shouldn't be dismissed based on proximity.

Einstein will have enough diversity even with changes. Goal should to be add diversity in Whitman. It's challenging due to location, but that should be the focus.

It's a nice thought, but the bigger issue is utilization and overcrowding.

Maybe. I could easily see diversification being the ultimate priority when they have to pick among competing priorities.

Maybe ask the parents of the kids who would be rezoned/bussed to Whitman if that's what they really want? Seems like being bussed across town to go to school with very rich kids might not be that great an experience. In the boundary analysis, going to the local school came up repeatedly as a goal for parents across the county.

The reality is no one from the DCC is going to be bussed all the way to Whitman. Some BCC or WJ kids could definitely end up there, and then DCC kids will shift into BCC, WJ and Woodward. Signed, parent of Einstein zoned kids with no desire for my kids to be bussed to Whitman.

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Anonymous wrote:I expect Whitman to either take parts of Somerset or some slice of downtown Bethesda with BCC being the biggest beneficiary and similar rolling impact to BCC on Einstein or DCC. BCC seems to be bursting at the seams at the elementary and high school levels. That or, the neighborhoods north of Greentree getting absorbed into Whitman.

They are trying to diversify Whitman not make it whiter.

Then please tell me where they expect to draw students from and with sufficient density? I can only assume they’d get some of those Class C apartments near downtown Bethesda (near battery lane or near Arlington/Bradley). Slice up a few blocks that currently go to BCC. BCC then pulls in more East from DCC and the game of musical chairs continues.

That doesn’t make any sense. Arlington Road and Battery Lane are walking distance to BCC. BCC already pulls almost to 16th St in Silver Spring, it can’t pull any further east - it’s too far.

Sometimes I think people who make these suggestions have never looked at a map, don’t know the racial and economic mix of the areas, and definitely don’t know traffic/travel time.

Of course it can pull further east. Those Silver Spring kids are currently going to Einstein, which is farther away and essentially the same travel time. It would be different if they were going to Blair, which is closer, but that's not the current catchment, and it's already overcrowded with it's own farther-east catchment.

Sometimes I think people make up excuses for failing to consider holistic solutions out of ignorance of geography. Other times I think it's out of ignorance of the worth of their fellow human beings.

+1 The kids on Spring Avenue, Noyes, Falkland Chase - those kids would have a much easier commute to B-CC (and Silver Creek) than to Einstein (and Sligo MS). Maybe they do or don't consider that solution, in part because it would reduce the diversity at Einstein, but it shouldn't be dismissed based on proximity.

Einstein will have enough diversity even with changes. Goal should to be add diversity in Whitman. It's challenging due to location, but that should be the focus.

It's a nice thought, but the bigger issue is utilization and overcrowding.

Maybe. I could easily see diversification being the ultimate priority when they have to pick among competing priorities.

Maybe ask the parents of the kids who would be rezoned/bussed to Whitman if that's what they really want? Seems like being bussed across town to go to school with very rich kids might not be that great an experience. In the boundary analysis, going to the local school came up repeatedly as a goal for parents across the county.

The reality is no one from the DCC is going to be bussed all the way to Whitman. Some BCC or WJ kids could definitely end up there, and then DCC kids will shift into BCC, WJ and Woodward. Signed, parent of Einstein zoned kids with no desire for my kids to be bussed to Whitman.

This whole idea is busing long distance is just non-sense. BCC kids will move to BCC, WJ and Woodward. That's expected and practical. Goal should be to create well balanced schools without busing long distance.

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Anonymous wrote:I expect Whitman to either take parts of Somerset or some slice of downtown Bethesda with BCC being the biggest beneficiary and similar rolling impact to BCC on Einstein or DCC. BCC seems to be bursting at the seams at the elementary and high school levels. That or, the neighborhoods north of Greentree getting absorbed into Whitman.

They are trying to diversify Whitman not make it whiter.

Then please tell me where they expect to draw students from and with sufficient density? I can only assume they’d get some of those Class C apartments near downtown Bethesda (near battery lane or near Arlington/Bradley). Slice up a few blocks that currently go to BCC. BCC then pulls in more East from DCC and the game of musical chairs continues.

That doesn’t make any sense. Arlington Road and Battery Lane are walking distance to BCC. BCC already pulls almost to 16th St in Silver Spring, it can’t pull any further east - it’s too far.

Sometimes I think people who make these suggestions have never looked at a map, don’t know the racial and economic mix of the areas, and definitely don’t know traffic/travel time.

Of course it can pull further east. Those Silver Spring kids are currently going to Einstein, which is farther away and essentially the same travel time. It would be different if they were going to Blair, which is closer, but that's not the current catchment, and it's already overcrowded with it's own farther-east catchment.

Sometimes I think people make up excuses for failing to consider holistic solutions out of ignorance of geography. Other times I think it's out of ignorance of the worth of their fellow human beings.

+1 The kids on Spring Avenue, Noyes, Falkland Chase - those kids would have a much easier commute to B-CC (and Silver Creek) than to Einstein (and Sligo MS). Maybe they do or don't consider that solution, in part because it would reduce the diversity at Einstein, but it shouldn't be dismissed based on proximity.

Einstein will have enough diversity even with changes. Goal should to be add diversity in Whitman. It's challenging due to location, but that should be the focus.

It's a nice thought, but the bigger issue is utilization and overcrowding.

Maybe. I could easily see diversification being the ultimate priority when they have to pick among competing priorities.

Maybe ask the parents of the kids who would be rezoned/bussed to Whitman if that's what they really want? Seems like being bussed across town to go to school with very rich kids might not be that great an experience. In the boundary analysis, going to the local school came up repeatedly as a goal for parents across the county.

The reality is no one from the DCC is going to be bussed all the way to Whitman. Some BCC or WJ kids could definitely end up there, and then DCC kids will shift into BCC, WJ and Woodward. Signed, parent of Einstein zoned kids with no desire for my kids to be bussed to Whitman.

This whole idea is busing long distance is just non-sense. BCC kids will move to BCC, WJ and Woodward. That's expected and practical. Goal should be to create well balanced schools without busing long distance.

What do you consider is long distance?

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Anonymous wrote:I expect Whitman to either take parts of Somerset or some slice of downtown Bethesda with BCC being the biggest beneficiary and similar rolling impact to BCC on Einstein or DCC. BCC seems to be bursting at the seams at the elementary and high school levels. That or, the neighborhoods north of Greentree getting absorbed into Whitman.

They are trying to diversify Whitman not make it whiter.

Then please tell me where they expect to draw students from and with sufficient density? I can only assume they’d get some of those Class C apartments near downtown Bethesda (near battery lane or near Arlington/Bradley). Slice up a few blocks that currently go to BCC. BCC then pulls in more East from DCC and the game of musical chairs continues.

That doesn’t make any sense. Arlington Road and Battery Lane are walking distance to BCC. BCC already pulls almost to 16th St in Silver Spring, it can’t pull any further east - it’s too far.

Sometimes I think people who make these suggestions have never looked at a map, don’t know the racial and economic mix of the areas, and definitely don’t know traffic/travel time.

Of course it can pull further east. Those Silver Spring kids are currently going to Einstein, which is farther away and essentially the same travel time. It would be different if they were going to Blair, which is closer, but that's not the current catchment, and it's already overcrowded with it's own farther-east catchment.

Sometimes I think people make up excuses for failing to consider holistic solutions out of ignorance of geography. Other times I think it's out of ignorance of the worth of their fellow human beings.

+1 The kids on Spring Avenue, Noyes, Falkland Chase - those kids would have a much easier commute to B-CC (and Silver Creek) than to Einstein (and Sligo MS). Maybe they do or don't consider that solution, in part because it would reduce the diversity at Einstein, but it shouldn't be dismissed based on proximity.

Einstein will have enough diversity even with changes. Goal should to be add diversity in Whitman. It's challenging due to location, but that should be the focus.

It's a nice thought, but the bigger issue is utilization and overcrowding.

Maybe. I could easily see diversification being the ultimate priority when they have to pick among competing priorities.

Maybe ask the parents of the kids who would be rezoned/bussed to Whitman if that's what they really want? Seems like being bussed across town to go to school with very rich kids might not be that great an experience. In the boundary analysis, going to the local school came up repeatedly as a goal for parents across the county.

The reality is no one from the DCC is going to be bussed all the way to Whitman. Some BCC or WJ kids could definitely end up there, and then DCC kids will shift into BCC, WJ and Woodward. Signed, parent of Einstein zoned kids with no desire for my kids to be bussed to Whitman.

This whole idea is busing long distance is just non-sense. BCC kids will move to BCC, WJ and Woodward. That's expected and practical. Goal should be to create well balanced schools without busing long distance.

As long as they eliminate all the unnecessary busing in the current system.

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Anonymous wrote:I expect Whitman to either take parts of Somerset or some slice of downtown Bethesda with BCC being the biggest beneficiary and similar rolling impact to BCC on Einstein or DCC. BCC seems to be bursting at the seams at the elementary and high school levels. That or, the neighborhoods north of Greentree getting absorbed into Whitman.

They are trying to diversify Whitman not make it whiter.

Then please tell me where they expect to draw students from and with sufficient density? I can only assume they’d get some of those Class C apartments near downtown Bethesda (near battery lane or near Arlington/Bradley). Slice up a few blocks that currently go to BCC. BCC then pulls in more East from DCC and the game of musical chairs continues.

That doesn’t make any sense. Arlington Road and Battery Lane are walking distance to BCC. BCC already pulls almost to 16th St in Silver Spring, it can’t pull any further east - it’s too far.

Sometimes I think people who make these suggestions have never looked at a map, don’t know the racial and economic mix of the areas, and definitely don’t know traffic/travel time.

Of course it can pull further east. Those Silver Spring kids are currently going to Einstein, which is farther away and essentially the same travel time. It would be different if they were going to Blair, which is closer, but that's not the current catchment, and it's already overcrowded with it's own farther-east catchment.

Sometimes I think people make up excuses for failing to consider holistic solutions out of ignorance of geography. Other times I think it's out of ignorance of the worth of their fellow human beings.

+1 The kids on Spring Avenue, Noyes, Falkland Chase - those kids would have a much easier commute to B-CC (and Silver Creek) than to Einstein (and Sligo MS). Maybe they do or don't consider that solution, in part because it would reduce the diversity at Einstein, but it shouldn't be dismissed based on proximity.

Einstein will have enough diversity even with changes. Goal should to be add diversity in Whitman. It's challenging due to location, but that should be the focus.

It's a nice thought, but the bigger issue is utilization and overcrowding.

Maybe. I could easily see diversification being the ultimate priority when they have to pick among competing priorities.

Maybe ask the parents of the kids who would be rezoned/bussed to Whitman if that's what they really want? Seems like being bussed across town to go to school with very rich kids might not be that great an experience. In the boundary analysis, going to the local school came up repeatedly as a goal for parents across the county.

The reality is no one from the DCC is going to be bussed all the way to Whitman. Some BCC or WJ kids could definitely end up there, and then DCC kids will shift into BCC, WJ and Woodward. Signed, parent of Einstein zoned kids with no desire for my kids to be bussed to Whitman.

This whole idea is busing long distance is just non-sense. BCC kids will move to BCC, WJ and Woodward. That's expected and practical. Goal should be to create well balanced schools without busing long distance.

What do you consider is long distance?

When lower income kids get into our school!

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Anonymous wrote:I expect Whitman to either take parts of Somerset or some slice of downtown Bethesda with BCC being the biggest beneficiary and similar rolling impact to BCC on Einstein or DCC. BCC seems to be bursting at the seams at the elementary and high school levels. That or, the neighborhoods north of Greentree getting absorbed into Whitman.

They are trying to diversify Whitman not make it whiter.

Then please tell me where they expect to draw students from and with sufficient density? I can only assume they’d get some of those Class C apartments near downtown Bethesda (near battery lane or near Arlington/Bradley). Slice up a few blocks that currently go to BCC. BCC then pulls in more East from DCC and the game of musical chairs continues.

That doesn’t make any sense. Arlington Road and Battery Lane are walking distance to BCC. BCC already pulls almost to 16th St in Silver Spring, it can’t pull any further east - it’s too far.

Sometimes I think people who make these suggestions have never looked at a map, don’t know the racial and economic mix of the areas, and definitely don’t know traffic/travel time.

Of course it can pull further east. Those Silver Spring kids are currently going to Einstein, which is farther away and essentially the same travel time. It would be different if they were going to Blair, which is closer, but that's not the current catchment, and it's already overcrowded with it's own farther-east catchment.

Sometimes I think people make up excuses for failing to consider holistic solutions out of ignorance of geography. Other times I think it's out of ignorance of the worth of their fellow human beings.

+1 The kids on Spring Avenue, Noyes, Falkland Chase - those kids would have a much easier commute to B-CC (and Silver Creek) than to Einstein (and Sligo MS). Maybe they do or don't consider that solution, in part because it would reduce the diversity at Einstein, but it shouldn't be dismissed based on proximity.

Einstein will have enough diversity even with changes. Goal should to be add diversity in Whitman. It's challenging due to location, but that should be the focus.

It's a nice thought, but the bigger issue is utilization and overcrowding.

Maybe. I could easily see diversification being the ultimate priority when they have to pick among competing priorities.

Maybe ask the parents of the kids who would be rezoned/bussed to Whitman if that's what they really want? Seems like being bussed across town to go to school with very rich kids might not be that great an experience. In the boundary analysis, going to the local school came up repeatedly as a goal for parents across the county.

The reality is no one from the DCC is going to be bussed all the way to Whitman. Some BCC or WJ kids could definitely end up there, and then DCC kids will shift into BCC, WJ and Woodward. Signed, parent of Einstein zoned kids with no desire for my kids to be bussed to Whitman.

This whole idea is busing long distance is just non-sense. BCC kids will move to BCC, WJ and Woodward. That's expected and practical. Goal should be to create well balanced schools without busing long distance.

What do you consider is long distance?

Not the PP, but bussing DCC kids to Whitman would involve bussing them past multiple closer HS. I know some people would love nothing more than to send DCC kids to Whitman, but the school system already has an issue with buses, so having to throw more money into transportation in order to send kids from the DCC catchments to Whitman seems unlikely, particularly when you can shift those kids a much shorter distance into BCC/WJ/Woodward.

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Reminder that the policy references adjacent clusters, and no DCC school is adjacent to Whitman.

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Anonymous wrote:Reminder that the policy references adjacent clusters, and no DCC school is adjacent to Whitman.

Correct. Whitman will see a boundary adjustment as a result of its recent expansion and the fact that it is now under capacity, as will B-CC, but it will be from neighborhoods that are more or less similar to those already zoned for those schools.

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Anonymous wrote:I expect Whitman to either take parts of Somerset or some slice of downtown Bethesda with BCC being the biggest beneficiary and similar rolling impact to BCC on Einstein or DCC. BCC seems to be bursting at the seams at the elementary and high school levels. That or, the neighborhoods north of Greentree getting absorbed into Whitman.

They are trying to diversify Whitman not make it whiter.

Then please tell me where they expect to draw students from and with sufficient density? I can only assume they’d get some of those Class C apartments near downtown Bethesda (near battery lane or near Arlington/Bradley). Slice up a few blocks that currently go to BCC. BCC then pulls in more East from DCC and the game of musical chairs continues.

That doesn’t make any sense. Arlington Road and Battery Lane are walking distance to BCC. BCC already pulls almost to 16th St in Silver Spring, it can’t pull any further east - it’s too far.

Sometimes I think people who make these suggestions have never looked at a map, don’t know the racial and economic mix of the areas, and definitely don’t know traffic/travel time.

Of course it can pull further east. Those Silver Spring kids are currently going to Einstein, which is farther away and essentially the same travel time. It would be different if they were going to Blair, which is closer, but that's not the current catchment, and it's already overcrowded with it's own farther-east catchment.

Sometimes I think people make up excuses for failing to consider holistic solutions out of ignorance of geography. Other times I think it's out of ignorance of the worth of their fellow human beings.

+1 The kids on Spring Avenue, Noyes, Falkland Chase - those kids would have a much easier commute to B-CC (and Silver Creek) than to Einstein (and Sligo MS). Maybe they do or don't consider that solution, in part because it would reduce the diversity at Einstein, but it shouldn't be dismissed based on proximity.

Einstein will have enough diversity even with changes. Goal should to be add diversity in Whitman. It's challenging due to location, but that should be the focus.

It's a nice thought, but the bigger issue is utilization and overcrowding.

Maybe. I could easily see diversification being the ultimate priority when they have to pick among competing priorities.

Maybe ask the parents of the kids who would be rezoned/bussed to Whitman if that's what they really want? Seems like being bussed across town to go to school with very rich kids might not be that great an experience. In the boundary analysis, going to the local school came up repeatedly as a goal for parents across the county.

The reality is no one from the DCC is going to be bussed all the way to Whitman. Some BCC or WJ kids could definitely end up there, and then DCC kids will shift into BCC, WJ and Woodward. Signed, parent of Einstein zoned kids with no desire for my kids to be bussed to Whitman.

The edges of some adjacent boundaries may change but I wouldn't expect much else.

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Reminder that school boundaries wouldn’t be such a blood sport if MCPS delivered the same product at each location and addressed safety issues across the district. We all know these schools aren’t equal but we pretend they are because many people on this board directly benefit from the inequality.

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Anonymous wrote:I expect Whitman to either take parts of Somerset or some slice of downtown Bethesda with BCC being the biggest beneficiary and similar rolling impact to BCC on Einstein or DCC. BCC seems to be bursting at the seams at the elementary and high school levels. That or, the neighborhoods north of Greentree getting absorbed into Whitman.

They are trying to diversify Whitman not make it whiter.

Then please tell me where they expect to draw students from and with sufficient density? I can only assume they’d get some of those Class C apartments near downtown Bethesda (near battery lane or near Arlington/Bradley). Slice up a few blocks that currently go to BCC. BCC then pulls in more East from DCC and the game of musical chairs continues.

That doesn’t make any sense. Arlington Road and Battery Lane are walking distance to BCC. BCC already pulls almost to 16th St in Silver Spring, it can’t pull any further east - it’s too far.

Sometimes I think people who make these suggestions have never looked at a map, don’t know the racial and economic mix of the areas, and definitely don’t know traffic/travel time.

Of course it can pull further east. Those Silver Spring kids are currently going to Einstein, which is farther away and essentially the same travel time. It would be different if they were going to Blair, which is closer, but that's not the current catchment, and it's already overcrowded with it's own farther-east catchment.

Sometimes I think people make up excuses for failing to consider holistic solutions out of ignorance of geography. Other times I think it's out of ignorance of the worth of their fellow human beings.

+1 The kids on Spring Avenue, Noyes, Falkland Chase - those kids would have a much easier commute to B-CC (and Silver Creek) than to Einstein (and Sligo MS). Maybe they do or don't consider that solution, in part because it would reduce the diversity at Einstein, but it shouldn't be dismissed based on proximity.

Einstein will have enough diversity even with changes. Goal should to be add diversity in Whitman. It's challenging due to location, but that should be the focus.

It's a nice thought, but the bigger issue is utilization and overcrowding.

Maybe. I could easily see diversification being the ultimate priority when they have to pick among competing priorities.

Maybe ask the parents of the kids who would be rezoned/bussed to Whitman if that's what they really want? Seems like being bussed across town to go to school with very rich kids might not be that great an experience. In the boundary analysis, going to the local school came up repeatedly as a goal for parents across the county.

The reality is no one from the DCC is going to be bussed all the way to Whitman. Some BCC or WJ kids could definitely end up there, and then DCC kids will shift into BCC, WJ and Woodward. Signed, parent of Einstein zoned kids with no desire for my kids to be bussed to Whitman.

This whole idea is busing long distance is just non-sense. BCC kids will move to BCC, WJ and Woodward. That's expected and practical. Goal should be to create well balanced schools without busing long distance.

What do you consider is long distance?

For me it's time on bus. Anything over 20-25 minutes on bus is too long.