Woodward Boundary Study discussion at next BoE meeting

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Anonymous wrote:I expect Whitman to either take parts of Somerset or some slice of downtown Bethesda with BCC being the biggest beneficiary and similar rolling impact to BCC on Einstein or DCC. BCC seems to be bursting at the seams at the elementary and high school levels. That or, the neighborhoods north of Greentree getting absorbed into Whitman.

They are trying to diversify Whitman not make it whiter.

Then please tell me where they expect to draw students from and with sufficient density? I can only assume they’d get some of those Class C apartments near downtown Bethesda (near battery lane or near Arlington/Bradley). Slice up a few blocks that currently go to BCC. BCC then pulls in more East from DCC and the game of musical chairs continues.

That doesn’t make any sense. Arlington Road and Battery Lane are walking distance to BCC. BCC already pulls almost to 16th St in Silver Spring, it can’t pull any further east - it’s too far.

Sometimes I think people who make these suggestions have never looked at a map, don’t know the racial and economic mix of the areas, and definitely don’t know traffic/travel time.

Of course it can pull further east. Those Silver Spring kids are currently going to Einstein, which is farther away and essentially the same travel time. It would be different if they were going to Blair, which is closer, but that's not the current catchment, and it's already overcrowded with it's own farther-east catchment.

Sometimes I think people make up excuses for failing to consider holistic solutions out of ignorance of geography. Other times I think it's out of ignorance of the worth of their fellow human beings.

+1 The kids on Spring Avenue, Noyes, Falkland Chase - those kids would have a much easier commute to B-CC (and Silver Creek) than to Einstein (and Sligo MS). Maybe they do or don't consider that solution, in part because it would reduce the diversity at Einstein, but it shouldn't be dismissed based on proximity.

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Anonymous wrote:I expect Whitman to either take parts of Somerset or some slice of downtown Bethesda with BCC being the biggest beneficiary and similar rolling impact to BCC on Einstein or DCC. BCC seems to be bursting at the seams at the elementary and high school levels. That or, the neighborhoods north of Greentree getting absorbed into Whitman.

They are trying to diversify Whitman not make it whiter.

Then please tell me where they expect to draw students from and with sufficient density? I can only assume they’d get some of those Class C apartments near downtown Bethesda (near battery lane or near Arlington/Bradley). Slice up a few blocks that currently go to BCC. BCC then pulls in more East from DCC and the game of musical chairs continues.

That doesn’t make any sense. Arlington Road and Battery Lane are walking distance to BCC. BCC already pulls almost to 16th St in Silver Spring, it can’t pull any further east - it’s too far.

Sometimes I think people who make these suggestions have never looked at a map, don’t know the racial and economic mix of the areas, and definitely don’t know traffic/travel time.

Of course it can pull further east. Those Silver Spring kids are currently going to Einstein, which is farther away and essentially the same travel time. It would be different if they were going to Blair, which is closer, but that's not the current catchment, and it's already overcrowded with it's own farther-east catchment.

Sometimes I think people make up excuses for failing to consider holistic solutions out of ignorance of geography. Other times I think it's out of ignorance of the worth of their fellow human beings.

+1 The kids on Spring Avenue, Noyes, Falkland Chase - those kids would have a much easier commute to B-CC (and Silver Creek) than to Einstein (and Sligo MS). Maybe they do or don't consider that solution, in part because it would reduce the diversity at Einstein, but it shouldn't be dismissed based on proximity.

Ahh the wet dream of Silver Spring Parents being rezoned away from Silver Spring schools. What happened to the sour grapes counter point you made at all the BBQs you went to when you moved that you picked silver spring for the diversity and schools? Your true colors are showing, if you wanted a near urban SFH that goes to BCC you should have bought in Edgemore. But you took the discount and now are faced with the reality of your choices.

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Anonymous wrote:I expect Whitman to either take parts of Somerset or some slice of downtown Bethesda with BCC being the biggest beneficiary and similar rolling impact to BCC on Einstein or DCC. BCC seems to be bursting at the seams at the elementary and high school levels. That or, the neighborhoods north of Greentree getting absorbed into Whitman.

They are trying to diversify Whitman not make it whiter.

Then please tell me where they expect to draw students from and with sufficient density? I can only assume they’d get some of those Class C apartments near downtown Bethesda (near battery lane or near Arlington/Bradley). Slice up a few blocks that currently go to BCC. BCC then pulls in more East from DCC and the game of musical chairs continues.

That doesn’t make any sense. Arlington Road and Battery Lane are walking distance to BCC. BCC already pulls almost to 16th St in Silver Spring, it can’t pull any further east - it’s too far.

Sometimes I think people who make these suggestions have never looked at a map, don’t know the racial and economic mix of the areas, and definitely don’t know traffic/travel time.

Of course it can pull further east. Those Silver Spring kids are currently going to Einstein, which is farther away and essentially the same travel time. It would be different if they were going to Blair, which is closer, but that's not the current catchment, and it's already overcrowded with it's own farther-east catchment.

Sometimes I think people make up excuses for failing to consider holistic solutions out of ignorance of geography. Other times I think it's out of ignorance of the worth of their fellow human beings.

+1 The kids on Spring Avenue, Noyes, Falkland Chase - those kids would have a much easier commute to B-CC (and Silver Creek) than to Einstein (and Sligo MS). Maybe they do or don't consider that solution, in part because it would reduce the diversity at Einstein, but it shouldn't be dismissed based on proximity.

Ahh the wet dream of Silver Spring Parents being rezoned away from Silver Spring schools. What happened to the sour grapes counter point you made at all the BBQs you went to when you moved that you picked silver spring for the diversity and schools? Your true colors are showing, if you wanted a near urban SFH that goes to BCC you should have bought in Edgemore. But you took the discount and now are faced with the reality of your choices.

Menu: sour grapes, BBQ, and word salad.

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Anonymous wrote:I expect Whitman to either take parts of Somerset or some slice of downtown Bethesda with BCC being the biggest beneficiary and similar rolling impact to BCC on Einstein or DCC. BCC seems to be bursting at the seams at the elementary and high school levels. That or, the neighborhoods north of Greentree getting absorbed into Whitman.

They are trying to diversify Whitman not make it whiter.

Then please tell me where they expect to draw students from and with sufficient density? I can only assume they’d get some of those Class C apartments near downtown Bethesda (near battery lane or near Arlington/Bradley). Slice up a few blocks that currently go to BCC. BCC then pulls in more East from DCC and the game of musical chairs continues.

That doesn’t make any sense. Arlington Road and Battery Lane are walking distance to BCC. BCC already pulls almost to 16th St in Silver Spring, it can’t pull any further east - it’s too far.

Sometimes I think people who make these suggestions have never looked at a map, don’t know the racial and economic mix of the areas, and definitely don’t know traffic/travel time.

Of course it can pull further east. Those Silver Spring kids are currently going to Einstein, which is farther away and essentially the same travel time. It would be different if they were going to Blair, which is closer, but that's not the current catchment, and it's already overcrowded with it's own farther-east catchment.

Sometimes I think people make up excuses for failing to consider holistic solutions out of ignorance of geography. Other times I think it's out of ignorance of the worth of their fellow human beings.

+1 The kids on Spring Avenue, Noyes, Falkland Chase - those kids would have a much easier commute to B-CC (and Silver Creek) than to Einstein (and Sligo MS). Maybe they do or don't consider that solution, in part because it would reduce the diversity at Einstein, but it shouldn't be dismissed based on proximity.

Einstein will have enough diversity even with changes. Goal should to be add diversity in Whitman. It's challenging due to location, but that should be the focus.

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Anonymous wrote:I expect Whitman to either take parts of Somerset or some slice of downtown Bethesda with BCC being the biggest beneficiary and similar rolling impact to BCC on Einstein or DCC. BCC seems to be bursting at the seams at the elementary and high school levels. That or, the neighborhoods north of Greentree getting absorbed into Whitman.

They are trying to diversify Whitman not make it whiter.

Then please tell me where they expect to draw students from and with sufficient density? I can only assume they’d get some of those Class C apartments near downtown Bethesda (near battery lane or near Arlington/Bradley). Slice up a few blocks that currently go to BCC. BCC then pulls in more East from DCC and the game of musical chairs continues.

That doesn’t make any sense. Arlington Road and Battery Lane are walking distance to BCC. BCC already pulls almost to 16th St in Silver Spring, it can’t pull any further east - it’s too far.

Sometimes I think people who make these suggestions have never looked at a map, don’t know the racial and economic mix of the areas, and definitely don’t know traffic/travel time.

Of course it can pull further east. Those Silver Spring kids are currently going to Einstein, which is farther away and essentially the same travel time. It would be different if they were going to Blair, which is closer, but that's not the current catchment, and it's already overcrowded with it's own farther-east catchment.

Sometimes I think people make up excuses for failing to consider holistic solutions out of ignorance of geography. Other times I think it's out of ignorance of the worth of their fellow human beings.

+1 The kids on Spring Avenue, Noyes, Falkland Chase - those kids would have a much easier commute to B-CC (and Silver Creek) than to Einstein (and Sligo MS). Maybe they do or don't consider that solution, in part because it would reduce the diversity at Einstein, but it shouldn't be dismissed based on proximity.

Ahh the wet dream of Silver Spring Parents being rezoned away from Silver Spring schools. What happened to the sour grapes counter point you made at all the BBQs you went to when you moved that you picked silver spring for the diversity and schools? Your true colors are showing, if you wanted a near urban SFH that goes to BCC you should have bought in Edgemore. But you took the discount and now are faced with the reality of your choices.

Menu: sour grapes, BBQ, and word salad.

The SS kids currently zoned for Einstein seem closer to BCC anyway. The top part of BCC's boundary which is also much closer to Einstein can probably go to Woodward.

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Anonymous wrote:I expect Whitman to either take parts of Somerset or some slice of downtown Bethesda with BCC being the biggest beneficiary and similar rolling impact to BCC on Einstein or DCC. BCC seems to be bursting at the seams at the elementary and high school levels. That or, the neighborhoods north of Greentree getting absorbed into Whitman.

They are trying to diversify Whitman not make it whiter.

Then please tell me where they expect to draw students from and with sufficient density? I can only assume they’d get some of those Class C apartments near downtown Bethesda (near battery lane or near Arlington/Bradley). Slice up a few blocks that currently go to BCC. BCC then pulls in more East from DCC and the game of musical chairs continues.

That doesn’t make any sense. Arlington Road and Battery Lane are walking distance to BCC. BCC already pulls almost to 16th St in Silver Spring, it can’t pull any further east - it’s too far.

Sometimes I think people who make these suggestions have never looked at a map, don’t know the racial and economic mix of the areas, and definitely don’t know traffic/travel time.

Of course it can pull further east. Those Silver Spring kids are currently going to Einstein, which is farther away and essentially the same travel time. It would be different if they were going to Blair, which is closer, but that's not the current catchment, and it's already overcrowded with it's own farther-east catchment.

Sometimes I think people make up excuses for failing to consider holistic solutions out of ignorance of geography. Other times I think it's out of ignorance of the worth of their fellow human beings.

+1 The kids on Spring Avenue, Noyes, Falkland Chase - those kids would have a much easier commute to B-CC (and Silver Creek) than to Einstein (and Sligo MS). Maybe they do or don't consider that solution, in part because it would reduce the diversity at Einstein, but it shouldn't be dismissed based on proximity.

Einstein will have enough diversity even with changes. Goal should to be add diversity in Whitman. It's challenging due to location, but that should be the focus.

It's a nice thought, but the bigger issue is utilization and overcrowding.

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Anonymous wrote:I expect Whitman to either take parts of Somerset or some slice of downtown Bethesda with BCC being the biggest beneficiary and similar rolling impact to BCC on Einstein or DCC. BCC seems to be bursting at the seams at the elementary and high school levels. That or, the neighborhoods north of Greentree getting absorbed into Whitman.

They are trying to diversify Whitman not make it whiter.

Then please tell me where they expect to draw students from and with sufficient density? I can only assume they’d get some of those Class C apartments near downtown Bethesda (near battery lane or near Arlington/Bradley). Slice up a few blocks that currently go to BCC. BCC then pulls in more East from DCC and the game of musical chairs continues.

That doesn’t make any sense. Arlington Road and Battery Lane are walking distance to BCC. BCC already pulls almost to 16th St in Silver Spring, it can’t pull any further east - it’s too far.

Sometimes I think people who make these suggestions have never looked at a map, don’t know the racial and economic mix of the areas, and definitely don’t know traffic/travel time.

Of course it can pull further east. Those Silver Spring kids are currently going to Einstein, which is farther away and essentially the same travel time. It would be different if they were going to Blair, which is closer, but that's not the current catchment, and it's already overcrowded with it's own farther-east catchment.

Sometimes I think people make up excuses for failing to consider holistic solutions out of ignorance of geography. Other times I think it's out of ignorance of the worth of their fellow human beings.

+1 The kids on Spring Avenue, Noyes, Falkland Chase - those kids would have a much easier commute to B-CC (and Silver Creek) than to Einstein (and Sligo MS). Maybe they do or don't consider that solution, in part because it would reduce the diversity at Einstein, but it shouldn't be dismissed based on proximity.

Einstein will have enough diversity even with changes. Goal should to be add diversity in Whitman. It's challenging due to location, but that should be the focus.

It's a nice thought, but the bigger issue is utilization and overcrowding.

Maybe. I could easily see diversification being the ultimate priority when they have to pick among competing priorities.

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Anonymous wrote:I expect Whitman to either take parts of Somerset or some slice of downtown Bethesda with BCC being the biggest beneficiary and similar rolling impact to BCC on Einstein or DCC. BCC seems to be bursting at the seams at the elementary and high school levels. That or, the neighborhoods north of Greentree getting absorbed into Whitman.

They are trying to diversify Whitman not make it whiter.

Then please tell me where they expect to draw students from and with sufficient density? I can only assume they’d get some of those Class C apartments near downtown Bethesda (near battery lane or near Arlington/Bradley). Slice up a few blocks that currently go to BCC. BCC then pulls in more East from DCC and the game of musical chairs continues.

That doesn’t make any sense. Arlington Road and Battery Lane are walking distance to BCC. BCC already pulls almost to 16th St in Silver Spring, it can’t pull any further east - it’s too far.

Sometimes I think people who make these suggestions have never looked at a map, don’t know the racial and economic mix of the areas, and definitely don’t know traffic/travel time.

Of course it can pull further east. Those Silver Spring kids are currently going to Einstein, which is farther away and essentially the same travel time. It would be different if they were going to Blair, which is closer, but that's not the current catchment, and it's already overcrowded with it's own farther-east catchment.

Sometimes I think people make up excuses for failing to consider holistic solutions out of ignorance of geography. Other times I think it's out of ignorance of the worth of their fellow human beings.

+1 The kids on Spring Avenue, Noyes, Falkland Chase - those kids would have a much easier commute to B-CC (and Silver Creek) than to Einstein (and Sligo MS). Maybe they do or don't consider that solution, in part because it would reduce the diversity at Einstein, but it shouldn't be dismissed based on proximity.

Einstein will have enough diversity even with changes. Goal should to be add diversity in Whitman. It's challenging due to location, but that should be the focus.

It's a nice thought, but the bigger issue is utilization and overcrowding.

There are four factors. That's one of them.

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Anonymous wrote:I expect Whitman to either take parts of Somerset or some slice of downtown Bethesda with BCC being the biggest beneficiary and similar rolling impact to BCC on Einstein or DCC. BCC seems to be bursting at the seams at the elementary and high school levels. That or, the neighborhoods north of Greentree getting absorbed into Whitman.

They are trying to diversify Whitman not make it whiter.

Then please tell me where they expect to draw students from and with sufficient density? I can only assume they’d get some of those Class C apartments near downtown Bethesda (near battery lane or near Arlington/Bradley). Slice up a few blocks that currently go to BCC. BCC then pulls in more East from DCC and the game of musical chairs continues.

That doesn’t make any sense. Arlington Road and Battery Lane are walking distance to BCC. BCC already pulls almost to 16th St in Silver Spring, it can’t pull any further east - it’s too far.

Sometimes I think people who make these suggestions have never looked at a map, don’t know the racial and economic mix of the areas, and definitely don’t know traffic/travel time.

Of course it can pull further east. Those Silver Spring kids are currently going to Einstein, which is farther away and essentially the same travel time. It would be different if they were going to Blair, which is closer, but that's not the current catchment, and it's already overcrowded with it's own farther-east catchment.

Sometimes I think people make up excuses for failing to consider holistic solutions out of ignorance of geography. Other times I think it's out of ignorance of the worth of their fellow human beings.

+1 The kids on Spring Avenue, Noyes, Falkland Chase - those kids would have a much easier commute to B-CC (and Silver Creek) than to Einstein (and Sligo MS). Maybe they do or don't consider that solution, in part because it would reduce the diversity at Einstein, but it shouldn't be dismissed based on proximity.

Einstein will have enough diversity even with changes. Goal should to be add diversity in Whitman. It's challenging due to location, but that should be the focus.

It's a nice thought, but the bigger issue is utilization and overcrowding.

Maybe. I could easily see diversification being the ultimate priority when they have to pick among competing priorities.

Maybe ask the parents of the kids who would be rezoned/bussed to Whitman if that's what they really want? Seems like being bussed across town to go to school with very rich kids might not be that great an experience. In the boundary analysis, going to the local school came up repeatedly as a goal for parents across the county.

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Anonymous wrote:I expect Whitman to either take parts of Somerset or some slice of downtown Bethesda with BCC being the biggest beneficiary and similar rolling impact to BCC on Einstein or DCC. BCC seems to be bursting at the seams at the elementary and high school levels. That or, the neighborhoods north of Greentree getting absorbed into Whitman.

They are trying to diversify Whitman not make it whiter.

Then please tell me where they expect to draw students from and with sufficient density? I can only assume they’d get some of those Class C apartments near downtown Bethesda (near battery lane or near Arlington/Bradley). Slice up a few blocks that currently go to BCC. BCC then pulls in more East from DCC and the game of musical chairs continues.

That doesn’t make any sense. Arlington Road and Battery Lane are walking distance to BCC. BCC already pulls almost to 16th St in Silver Spring, it can’t pull any further east - it’s too far.

Sometimes I think people who make these suggestions have never looked at a map, don’t know the racial and economic mix of the areas, and definitely don’t know traffic/travel time.

Of course it can pull further east. Those Silver Spring kids are currently going to Einstein, which is farther away and essentially the same travel time. It would be different if they were going to Blair, which is closer, but that's not the current catchment, and it's already overcrowded with it's own farther-east catchment.

Sometimes I think people make up excuses for failing to consider holistic solutions out of ignorance of geography. Other times I think it's out of ignorance of the worth of their fellow human beings.

+1 The kids on Spring Avenue, Noyes, Falkland Chase - those kids would have a much easier commute to B-CC (and Silver Creek) than to Einstein (and Sligo MS). Maybe they do or don't consider that solution, in part because it would reduce the diversity at Einstein, but it shouldn't be dismissed based on proximity.

Einstein will have enough diversity even with changes. Goal should to be add diversity in Whitman. It's challenging due to location, but that should be the focus.

It's a nice thought, but the bigger issue is utilization and overcrowding.

Maybe. I could easily see diversification being the ultimate priority when they have to pick among competing priorities.

Maybe ask the parents of the kids who would be rezoned/bussed to Whitman if that's what they really want? Seems like being bussed across town to go to school with very rich kids might not be that great an experience. In the boundary analysis, going to the local school came up repeatedly as a goal for parents across the county.

(some) Whitman parents: don't bus my kids across the county to scary Paint Branch! also don't bus those scary Paint Branch kids across the county to my kids' school, I'm only saying that out of concern for those scary Paint Branch kids!

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Anonymous wrote:I expect Whitman to either take parts of Somerset or some slice of downtown Bethesda with BCC being the biggest beneficiary and similar rolling impact to BCC on Einstein or DCC. BCC seems to be bursting at the seams at the elementary and high school levels. That or, the neighborhoods north of Greentree getting absorbed into Whitman.

They are trying to diversify Whitman not make it whiter.

Then please tell me where they expect to draw students from and with sufficient density? I can only assume they’d get some of those Class C apartments near downtown Bethesda (near battery lane or near Arlington/Bradley). Slice up a few blocks that currently go to BCC. BCC then pulls in more East from DCC and the game of musical chairs continues.

That doesn’t make any sense. Arlington Road and Battery Lane are walking distance to BCC. BCC already pulls almost to 16th St in Silver Spring, it can’t pull any further east - it’s too far.

Sometimes I think people who make these suggestions have never looked at a map, don’t know the racial and economic mix of the areas, and definitely don’t know traffic/travel time.

Of course it can pull further east. Those Silver Spring kids are currently going to Einstein, which is farther away and essentially the same travel time. It would be different if they were going to Blair, which is closer, but that's not the current catchment, and it's already overcrowded with it's own farther-east catchment.

Sometimes I think people make up excuses for failing to consider holistic solutions out of ignorance of geography. Other times I think it's out of ignorance of the worth of their fellow human beings.

+1 The kids on Spring Avenue, Noyes, Falkland Chase - those kids would have a much easier commute to B-CC (and Silver Creek) than to Einstein (and Sligo MS). Maybe they do or don't consider that solution, in part because it would reduce the diversity at Einstein, but it shouldn't be dismissed based on proximity.

Einstein will have enough diversity even with changes. Goal should to be add diversity in Whitman. It's challenging due to location, but that should be the focus.

It's a nice thought, but the bigger issue is utilization and overcrowding.

There are four factors. That's one of them.

Those are the ones they need to address the other factors are just nice to have but hardly a deal breaker.

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Anonymous wrote:I expect Whitman to either take parts of Somerset or some slice of downtown Bethesda with BCC being the biggest beneficiary and similar rolling impact to BCC on Einstein or DCC. BCC seems to be bursting at the seams at the elementary and high school levels. That or, the neighborhoods north of Greentree getting absorbed into Whitman.

They are trying to diversify Whitman not make it whiter.

Then please tell me where they expect to draw students from and with sufficient density? I can only assume they’d get some of those Class C apartments near downtown Bethesda (near battery lane or near Arlington/Bradley). Slice up a few blocks that currently go to BCC. BCC then pulls in more East from DCC and the game of musical chairs continues.

That doesn’t make any sense. Arlington Road and Battery Lane are walking distance to BCC. BCC already pulls almost to 16th St in Silver Spring, it can’t pull any further east - it’s too far.

Sometimes I think people who make these suggestions have never looked at a map, don’t know the racial and economic mix of the areas, and definitely don’t know traffic/travel time.

Of course it can pull further east. Those Silver Spring kids are currently going to Einstein, which is farther away and essentially the same travel time. It would be different if they were going to Blair, which is closer, but that's not the current catchment, and it's already overcrowded with it's own farther-east catchment.

Sometimes I think people make up excuses for failing to consider holistic solutions out of ignorance of geography. Other times I think it's out of ignorance of the worth of their fellow human beings.

+1 The kids on Spring Avenue, Noyes, Falkland Chase - those kids would have a much easier commute to B-CC (and Silver Creek) than to Einstein (and Sligo MS). Maybe they do or don't consider that solution, in part because it would reduce the diversity at Einstein, but it shouldn't be dismissed based on proximity.

Einstein will have enough diversity even with changes. Goal should to be add diversity in Whitman. It's challenging due to location, but that should be the focus.

It's a nice thought, but the bigger issue is utilization and overcrowding.

Maybe. I could easily see diversification being the ultimate priority when they have to pick among competing priorities.

Maybe ask the parents of the kids who would be rezoned/bussed to Whitman if that's what they really want? Seems like being bussed across town to go to school with very rich kids might not be that great an experience. In the boundary analysis, going to the local school came up repeatedly as a goal for parents across the county.

(some) Whitman parents: don't bus my kids across the county to scary Paint Branch! also don't bus those scary Paint Branch kids across the county to my kids' school, I'm only saying that out of concern for those scary Paint Branch kids!

It's unlikely to have much of a real impact because there's only so much they can realistically do, but I guess we can entertain hysterics like the parent that wanted to have some cross county busing program.

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Anonymous wrote:I expect Whitman to either take parts of Somerset or some slice of downtown Bethesda with BCC being the biggest beneficiary and similar rolling impact to BCC on Einstein or DCC. BCC seems to be bursting at the seams at the elementary and high school levels. That or, the neighborhoods north of Greentree getting absorbed into Whitman.

They are trying to diversify Whitman not make it whiter.

Then please tell me where they expect to draw students from and with sufficient density? I can only assume they’d get some of those Class C apartments near downtown Bethesda (near battery lane or near Arlington/Bradley). Slice up a few blocks that currently go to BCC. BCC then pulls in more East from DCC and the game of musical chairs continues.

That doesn’t make any sense. Arlington Road and Battery Lane are walking distance to BCC. BCC already pulls almost to 16th St in Silver Spring, it can’t pull any further east - it’s too far.

Sometimes I think people who make these suggestions have never looked at a map, don’t know the racial and economic mix of the areas, and definitely don’t know traffic/travel time.

Of course it can pull further east. Those Silver Spring kids are currently going to Einstein, which is farther away and essentially the same travel time. It would be different if they were going to Blair, which is closer, but that's not the current catchment, and it's already overcrowded with it's own farther-east catchment.

Sometimes I think people make up excuses for failing to consider holistic solutions out of ignorance of geography. Other times I think it's out of ignorance of the worth of their fellow human beings.

+1 The kids on Spring Avenue, Noyes, Falkland Chase - those kids would have a much easier commute to B-CC (and Silver Creek) than to Einstein (and Sligo MS). Maybe they do or don't consider that solution, in part because it would reduce the diversity at Einstein, but it shouldn't be dismissed based on proximity.

Einstein will have enough diversity even with changes. Goal should to be add diversity in Whitman. It's challenging due to location, but that should be the focus.

And why should that be the focus?

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Anonymous wrote:I expect Whitman to either take parts of Somerset or some slice of downtown Bethesda with BCC being the biggest beneficiary and similar rolling impact to BCC on Einstein or DCC. BCC seems to be bursting at the seams at the elementary and high school levels. That or, the neighborhoods north of Greentree getting absorbed into Whitman.

They are trying to diversify Whitman not make it whiter.

Then please tell me where they expect to draw students from and with sufficient density? I can only assume they’d get some of those Class C apartments near downtown Bethesda (near battery lane or near Arlington/Bradley). Slice up a few blocks that currently go to BCC. BCC then pulls in more East from DCC and the game of musical chairs continues.

That doesn’t make any sense. Arlington Road and Battery Lane are walking distance to BCC. BCC already pulls almost to 16th St in Silver Spring, it can’t pull any further east - it’s too far.

Sometimes I think people who make these suggestions have never looked at a map, don’t know the racial and economic mix of the areas, and definitely don’t know traffic/travel time.

Of course it can pull further east. Those Silver Spring kids are currently going to Einstein, which is farther away and essentially the same travel time. It would be different if they were going to Blair, which is closer, but that's not the current catchment, and it's already overcrowded with it's own farther-east catchment.

Sometimes I think people make up excuses for failing to consider holistic solutions out of ignorance of geography. Other times I think it's out of ignorance of the worth of their fellow human beings.

+1 The kids on Spring Avenue, Noyes, Falkland Chase - those kids would have a much easier commute to B-CC (and Silver Creek) than to Einstein (and Sligo MS). Maybe they do or don't consider that solution, in part because it would reduce the diversity at Einstein, but it shouldn't be dismissed based on proximity.

Einstein will have enough diversity even with changes. Goal should to be add diversity in Whitman. It's challenging due to location, but that should be the focus.

It's a nice thought, but the bigger issue is utilization and overcrowding.

There are four factors. That's one of them.

Those are the ones they need to address the other factors are just nice to have but hardly a deal breaker.

No, that's not what the boundary study policy says.

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Anonymous wrote:I expect Whitman to either take parts of Somerset or some slice of downtown Bethesda with BCC being the biggest beneficiary and similar rolling impact to BCC on Einstein or DCC. BCC seems to be bursting at the seams at the elementary and high school levels. That or, the neighborhoods north of Greentree getting absorbed into Whitman.

They are trying to diversify Whitman not make it whiter.

Then please tell me where they expect to draw students from and with sufficient density? I can only assume they’d get some of those Class C apartments near downtown Bethesda (near battery lane or near Arlington/Bradley). Slice up a few blocks that currently go to BCC. BCC then pulls in more East from DCC and the game of musical chairs continues.

That doesn’t make any sense. Arlington Road and Battery Lane are walking distance to BCC. BCC already pulls almost to 16th St in Silver Spring, it can’t pull any further east - it’s too far.

Sometimes I think people who make these suggestions have never looked at a map, don’t know the racial and economic mix of the areas, and definitely don’t know traffic/travel time.

Of course it can pull further east. Those Silver Spring kids are currently going to Einstein, which is farther away and essentially the same travel time. It would be different if they were going to Blair, which is closer, but that's not the current catchment, and it's already overcrowded with it's own farther-east catchment.

Sometimes I think people make up excuses for failing to consider holistic solutions out of ignorance of geography. Other times I think it's out of ignorance of the worth of their fellow human beings.

+1 The kids on Spring Avenue, Noyes, Falkland Chase - those kids would have a much easier commute to B-CC (and Silver Creek) than to Einstein (and Sligo MS). Maybe they do or don't consider that solution, in part because it would reduce the diversity at Einstein, but it shouldn't be dismissed based on proximity.

Einstein will have enough diversity even with changes. Goal should to be add diversity in Whitman. It's challenging due to location, but that should be the focus.

It's a nice thought, but the bigger issue is utilization and overcrowding.

Maybe. I could easily see diversification being the ultimate priority when they have to pick among competing priorities.

Maybe ask the parents of the kids who would be rezoned/bussed to Whitman if that's what they really want? Seems like being bussed across town to go to school with very rich kids might not be that great an experience. In the boundary analysis, going to the local school came up repeatedly as a goal for parents across the county.

(some) Whitman parents: don't bus my kids across the county to scary Paint Branch! also don't bus those scary Paint Branch kids across the county to my kids' school, I'm only saying that out of concern for those scary Paint Branch kids!

It's unlikely to have much of a real impact because there's only so much they can realistically do, but I guess we can entertain hysterics like the parent that wanted to have some cross county busing program.

The irony is that no one wants or has realistically suggested cross county bussing. That's a racist fever dream meant to stir up opposition to any boundary revisions at all. With two new high schools opening, boundary revisions are happening. Folks can either engage in the process constructively or they can continue to build straw men but there is political will to deal with overcrowding in east county schools and that's going to mean that some schools become slightly more integrated.