Paint Branch High Fights

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Hearing about these fights, and then, seeing sequence after sequence after sequence of them at various schools is shocking. Yes, you know these happen, they are unfortunately common. But exposing them like this is controversial, but also important to see.

Agree. Glad to see these videos so that parents can understand how stressful the school environment might be.

But there was 4 girls who jumped another girl in a school in NJ early this week and the video was sent everywhere and the 14yr old girl who was jumped was made fun of and bullied. She committed suicide 2 days later. So honestly, I am not a fan of the people who keep sending pictures of girls passed out in BCC bathrooms or anyone of these fights at these schools. Not to mention the 18yr old having sex with the 14yr old on Facebook Live at RM a few years ago.

I am 100% against phones being allowed in school for these reasons and the terrible nature of social media and not keeping kids focused on school. It has gotten out of hand.

I was not aware of that, what a tragedy. I would also support no phones for a variety of reasons.

No, sorry. Not ALL kids post videos of this kind of thing. Not interested in banning phones while MCPS does nothing to try and ban drugs/vaping/smoking.

[Anonymous]

This thread is nuts.

33% of the people are saying that these videos should be shared to encourage parents / mcps to "do something"
33% are saying that these videos should be NOT be shared since that just encourages the kids to do it more
33% are arguing over whether or not these kids should be expelled or sent "away"
And finally there is the perennial 1% that chimes in to blame parents

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is nuts.

33% of the people are saying that these videos should be shared to encourage parents / mcps to "do something"
33% are saying that these videos should be NOT be shared since that just encourages the kids to do it more
33% are arguing over whether or not these kids should be expelled or sent "away"
And finally there is the perennial 1% that chimes in to blame parents

the thread shows that people have varying opinions. Is that really a shocker to you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hearing about these fights, and then, seeing sequence after sequence after sequence of them at various schools is shocking. Yes, you know these happen, they are unfortunately common. But exposing them like this is controversial, but also important to see.

Agree. Glad to see these videos so that parents can understand how stressful the school environment might be.

But there was 4 girls who jumped another girl in a school in NJ early this week and the video was sent everywhere and the 14yr old girl who was jumped was made fun of and bullied. She committed suicide 2 days later. So honestly, I am not a fan of the people who keep sending pictures of girls passed out in BCC bathrooms or anyone of these fights at these schools. Not to mention the 18yr old having sex with the 14yr old on Facebook Live at RM a few years ago.

I am 100% against phones being allowed in school for these reasons and the terrible nature of social media and not keeping kids focused on school. It has gotten out of hand.

I was not aware of that, what a tragedy. I would also support no phones for a variety of reasons.

No, sorry. Not ALL kids post videos of this kind of thing. Not interested in banning phones while MCPS does nothing to try and ban drugs/vaping/smoking.

They are not related to one another. You think people that want to lockdown phones during the school day are FOR drugs/vaping/smoking. My kid goes to JW middle school and the bathrooms are smell like weed and vape. It is a huge issues. There is not enough security. Teachers don't want to get involved as they are already overworked. And snitching students get bullied.

Either way, phones are THE focus in school. Not learning, not socializing face to face, and certainly not in a privacy standpoint. BOTH are issues

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is going to take something truly terrible to get MCPS to ban phones. Something involving major lawsuits.

This was the 1st generation that had to grow up with the possibility of kids having cell phones/social media. We've done an abysmal job of managing it. We should have demanded parental features (that kids can't by pass) on all phones so phones could be set to "call only" mode during school hours, at least. The school districts won't champion this, only the phone manufacturers can.

Man, I definitely like that idea. And you're so right, we definitely let them get away with everything and handed these unlocked devices to our kids without a second thought.

Don't need the phone companies. I posted up thread. We need phone pouches.

https://aleteia.org/2022/09/26/the-15-gadget-thats-eliminating-cell-phone-use-at-schools-and-concerts/

Some schools have already started using them.

You guys are completely focused on the wrong thing. That NJ story is horrifying. But, the problem is not phones. The HUGE problem in that case, and in these MCPS fights is that our kids are being ASSAULTED AT SCHOOL. Truly, that is the problem. The poor girl in NJ should never have been beaten up like that IN a school building.

Fights outside of school have gone on since the beginning of time. But the proliferation of fights in school should be a huge issue for all parents. It's not just the kid being beaten up who is in danger. Teachers or staff who try to break up the fight are in danger. Innocent kids who are standing around at their lockers are in danger.

Again, the issues is the violence in schools, not the phones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is going to take something truly terrible to get MCPS to ban phones. Something involving major lawsuits.

This was the 1st generation that had to grow up with the possibility of kids having cell phones/social media. We've done an abysmal job of managing it. We should have demanded parental features (that kids can't by pass) on all phones so phones could be set to "call only" mode during school hours, at least. The school districts won't champion this, only the phone manufacturers can.

Man, I definitely like that idea. And you're so right, we definitely let them get away with everything and handed these unlocked devices to our kids without a second thought.

Don't need the phone companies. I posted up thread. We need phone pouches.

https://aleteia.org/2022/09/26/the-15-gadget-thats-eliminating-cell-phone-use-at-schools-and-concerts/

Some schools have already started using them.

You guys are completely focused on the wrong thing. That NJ story is horrifying. But, the problem is not phones. The HUGE problem in that case, and in these MCPS fights is that our kids are being ASSAULTED AT SCHOOL. Truly, that is the problem. The poor girl in NJ should never have been beaten up like that IN a school building.

Fights outside of school have gone on since the beginning of time. But the proliferation of fights in school should be a huge issue for all parents. It's not just the kid being beaten up who is in danger. Teachers or staff who try to break up the fight are in danger. Innocent kids who are standing around at their lockers are in danger.

Again, the issues is the violence in schools, not the phones.

You say that until it's your child passed out on the floor after an assault, fight, drug use, etc... and their passed out picture is passed around to over 1000 kids in 20 minutes and the rest of the DMV within 1-2 hours. It isn't an issue that a few saw. It is the constant humiliation, hate, bullying, and harassment from pics and videos taken in school judging others. The NJ incident has EVERYTHING to do with the video being passed around and the girl being traumatized and harassed about it from people in and outside of her school. Not to mention the disenchantment of our youth's minds to get a video instead of helping or caring what is really happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is going to take something truly terrible to get MCPS to ban phones. Something involving major lawsuits.

This was the 1st generation that had to grow up with the possibility of kids having cell phones/social media. We've done an abysmal job of managing it. We should have demanded parental features (that kids can't by pass) on all phones so phones could be set to "call only" mode during school hours, at least. The school districts won't champion this, only the phone manufacturers can.

Man, I definitely like that idea. And you're so right, we definitely let them get away with everything and handed these unlocked devices to our kids without a second thought.

Don't need the phone companies. I posted up thread. We need phone pouches.

https://aleteia.org/2022/09/26/the-15-gadget-thats-eliminating-cell-phone-use-at-schools-and-concerts/

Some schools have already started using them.

You guys are completely focused on the wrong thing. That NJ story is horrifying. But, the problem is not phones. The HUGE problem in that case, and in these MCPS fights is that our kids are being ASSAULTED AT SCHOOL. Truly, that is the problem. The poor girl in NJ should never have been beaten up like that IN a school building.

Fights outside of school have gone on since the beginning of time. But the proliferation of fights in school should be a huge issue for all parents. It's not just the kid being beaten up who is in danger. Teachers or staff who try to break up the fight are in danger. Innocent kids who are standing around at their lockers are in danger.

Again, the issues is the violence in schools, not the phones.

The rate of teen suicide is directly in step with the increase in social media. The American Academy of pediatricians and the American psychiatry association should be screaming this from the bell towers. It's a public health emergencies and one that can easily be solved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is going to take something truly terrible to get MCPS to ban phones. Something involving major lawsuits.

This was the 1st generation that had to grow up with the possibility of kids having cell phones/social media. We've done an abysmal job of managing it. We should have demanded parental features (that kids can't by pass) on all phones so phones could be set to "call only" mode during school hours, at least. The school districts won't champion this, only the phone manufacturers can.

Man, I definitely like that idea. And you're so right, we definitely let them get away with everything and handed these unlocked devices to our kids without a second thought.

Don't need the phone companies. I posted up thread. We need phone pouches.

https://aleteia.org/2022/09/26/the-15-gadget-thats-eliminating-cell-phone-use-at-schools-and-concerts/

Some schools have already started using them.

You guys are completely focused on the wrong thing. That NJ story is horrifying. But, the problem is not phones. The HUGE problem in that case, and in these MCPS fights is that our kids are being ASSAULTED AT SCHOOL. Truly, that is the problem. The poor girl in NJ should never have been beaten up like that IN a school building.

Fights outside of school have gone on since the beginning of time. But the proliferation of fights in school should be a huge issue for all parents. It's not just the kid being beaten up who is in danger. Teachers or staff who try to break up the fight are in danger. Innocent kids who are standing around at their lockers are in danger.

Again, the issues is the violence in schools, not the phones.

You say that until it's your child passed out on the floor after an assault, fight, drug use, etc... and their passed out picture is passed around to over 1000 kids in 20 minutes and the rest of the DMV within 1-2 hours. It isn't an issue that a few saw. It is the constant humiliation, hate, bullying, and harassment from pics and videos taken in school judging others. The NJ incident has EVERYTHING to do with the video being passed around and the girl being traumatized and harassed about it from people in and outside of her school. Not to mention the disenchantment of our youth's minds to get a video instead of helping or caring what is really happening.

This right here! It wasn’t the fight. It was the fact it was all over social media for the poor girl in NJ. It’s disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Back in the old days a fight was a quick event. It would end and most would move on and not talk about the next day. Now it just becomes an endless replay of attacks that can retraumatize someone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is going to take something truly terrible to get MCPS to ban phones. Something involving major lawsuits.

This was the 1st generation that had to grow up with the possibility of kids having cell phones/social media. We've done an abysmal job of managing it. We should have demanded parental features (that kids can't by pass) on all phones so phones could be set to "call only" mode during school hours, at least. The school districts won't champion this, only the phone manufacturers can.

Man, I definitely like that idea. And you're so right, we definitely let them get away with everything and handed these unlocked devices to our kids without a second thought.

Don't need the phone companies. I posted up thread. We need phone pouches.

https://aleteia.org/2022/09/26/the-15-gadget-thats-eliminating-cell-phone-use-at-schools-and-concerts/

Some schools have already started using them.

You guys are completely focused on the wrong thing. That NJ story is horrifying. But, the problem is not phones. The HUGE problem in that case, and in these MCPS fights is that our kids are being ASSAULTED AT SCHOOL. Truly, that is the problem. The poor girl in NJ should never have been beaten up like that IN a school building.

Fights outside of school have gone on since the beginning of time. But the proliferation of fights in school should be a huge issue for all parents. It's not just the kid being beaten up who is in danger. Teachers or staff who try to break up the fight are in danger. Innocent kids who are standing around at their lockers are in danger.

Again, the issues is the violence in schools, not the phones.

Agree and the solution is 0 tolerance for violent behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Back in the old days a fight was a quick event. It would end and most would move on and not talk about the next day. Now it just becomes an endless replay of attacks that can retraumatize someone.

+1 reliving that humiliation has a huge toll on mental health.

No one said it was *just* the phones, but getting those pouches is one part of the solution. We are never going to eliminate fights in school. We all know that they existed before smart phones - lord knows I've seen my share in my HS. But, the smart phones is a problem, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is going to take something truly terrible to get MCPS to ban phones. Something involving major lawsuits.

This was the 1st generation that had to grow up with the possibility of kids having cell phones/social media. We've done an abysmal job of managing it. We should have demanded parental features (that kids can't by pass) on all phones so phones could be set to "call only" mode during school hours, at least. The school districts won't champion this, only the phone manufacturers can.

Man, I definitely like that idea. And you're so right, we definitely let them get away with everything and handed these unlocked devices to our kids without a second thought.

Don't need the phone companies. I posted up thread. We need phone pouches.

https://aleteia.org/2022/09/26/the-15-gadget-thats-eliminating-cell-phone-use-at-schools-and-concerts/

Some schools have already started using them.

You guys are completely focused on the wrong thing. That NJ story is horrifying. But, the problem is not phones. The HUGE problem in that case, and in these MCPS fights is that our kids are being ASSAULTED AT SCHOOL. Truly, that is the problem. The poor girl in NJ should never have been beaten up like that IN a school building.

Fights outside of school have gone on since the beginning of time. But the proliferation of fights in school should be a huge issue for all parents. It's not just the kid being beaten up who is in danger. Teachers or staff who try to break up the fight are in danger. Innocent kids who are standing around at their lockers are in danger.

Again, the issues is the violence in schools, not the phones.

Agree and the solution is 0 tolerance for violent behavior.

What does zero tolerance look like? Prison?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is going to take something truly terrible to get MCPS to ban phones. Something involving major lawsuits.

This was the 1st generation that had to grow up with the possibility of kids having cell phones/social media. We've done an abysmal job of managing it. We should have demanded parental features (that kids can't by pass) on all phones so phones could be set to "call only" mode during school hours, at least. The school districts won't champion this, only the phone manufacturers can.

Man, I definitely like that idea. And you're so right, we definitely let them get away with everything and handed these unlocked devices to our kids without a second thought.

Don't need the phone companies. I posted up thread. We need phone pouches.

https://aleteia.org/2022/09/26/the-15-gadget-thats-eliminating-cell-phone-use-at-schools-and-concerts/

Some schools have already started using them.

You guys are completely focused on the wrong thing. That NJ story is horrifying. But, the problem is not phones. The HUGE problem in that case, and in these MCPS fights is that our kids are being ASSAULTED AT SCHOOL. Truly, that is the problem. The poor girl in NJ should never have been beaten up like that IN a school building.

Fights outside of school have gone on since the beginning of time. But the proliferation of fights in school should be a huge issue for all parents. It's not just the kid being beaten up who is in danger. Teachers or staff who try to break up the fight are in danger. Innocent kids who are standing around at their lockers are in danger.

Again, the issues is the violence in schools, not the phones.

Agree and the solution is 0 tolerance for violent behavior.

What does zero tolerance look like? Prison?

Kids don't go to prison. Except for Stephen Austin who shot his friend at Magruder. I can't think of another child who has ended up in prison.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is going to take something truly terrible to get MCPS to ban phones. Something involving major lawsuits.

This was the 1st generation that had to grow up with the possibility of kids having cell phones/social media. We've done an abysmal job of managing it. We should have demanded parental features (that kids can't by pass) on all phones so phones could be set to "call only" mode during school hours, at least. The school districts won't champion this, only the phone manufacturers can.

Man, I definitely like that idea. And you're so right, we definitely let them get away with everything and handed these unlocked devices to our kids without a second thought.

Don't need the phone companies. I posted up thread. We need phone pouches.

https://aleteia.org/2022/09/26/the-15-gadget-thats-eliminating-cell-phone-use-at-schools-and-concerts/

Some schools have already started using them.

You guys are completely focused on the wrong thing. That NJ story is horrifying. But, the problem is not phones. The HUGE problem in that case, and in these MCPS fights is that our kids are being ASSAULTED AT SCHOOL. Truly, that is the problem. The poor girl in NJ should never have been beaten up like that IN a school building.

Fights outside of school have gone on since the beginning of time. But the proliferation of fights in school should be a huge issue for all parents. It's not just the kid being beaten up who is in danger. Teachers or staff who try to break up the fight are in danger. Innocent kids who are standing around at their lockers are in danger.

Again, the issues is the violence in schools, not the phones.

Agree and the solution is 0 tolerance for violent behavior.

This. Whether it’s violence against a teacher or a student or a staff member. Zero tolerance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is going to take something truly terrible to get MCPS to ban phones. Something involving major lawsuits.

This was the 1st generation that had to grow up with the possibility of kids having cell phones/social media. We've done an abysmal job of managing it. We should have demanded parental features (that kids can't by pass) on all phones so phones could be set to "call only" mode during school hours, at least. The school districts won't champion this, only the phone manufacturers can.

Man, I definitely like that idea. And you're so right, we definitely let them get away with everything and handed these unlocked devices to our kids without a second thought.

Don't need the phone companies. I posted up thread. We need phone pouches.

https://aleteia.org/2022/09/26/the-15-gadget-thats-eliminating-cell-phone-use-at-schools-and-concerts/

Some schools have already started using them.

You guys are completely focused on the wrong thing. That NJ story is horrifying. But, the problem is not phones. The HUGE problem in that case, and in these MCPS fights is that our kids are being ASSAULTED AT SCHOOL. Truly, that is the problem. The poor girl in NJ should never have been beaten up like that IN a school building.

Fights outside of school have gone on since the beginning of time. But the proliferation of fights in school should be a huge issue for all parents. It's not just the kid being beaten up who is in danger. Teachers or staff who try to break up the fight are in danger. Innocent kids who are standing around at their lockers are in danger.

Again, the issues is the violence in schools, not the phones.

The rate of teen suicide is directly in step with the increase in social media. The American Academy of pediatricians and the American psychiatry association should be screaming this from the bell towers. It's a public health emergencies and one that can easily be solved.

I agree that social media sucks for teens.

But that doesn’t mean we need to get rid of phones. The phones are not the issue. Social media and violent kids are the issue.