Told by christian friend that my lifelong depression is because I don’t “know Jesus”

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Anonymous wrote:My whole life I’ve been surrounded by depressed Christians, including myself. The Book of Job is all about depression.

Your friend is ignorant and I’m sorry they said such an unkind thing. Depression visits the believer and unbeliever alike. This world is so awful and brutal so much of the time, I think many Christians struggle more because they have to grapple with the suffering God allows - at least we atheists can find comfort in the absurdity and randomness of life’s cruelties.

The book of Job is not all about depression.

You are a troll. You first say you’ve been surrounded by depressed Christians, including yourself.

Then you say “we atheists.”

Atheist posing as depressed Christian much? You are a depressed atheist who trolls a religion board posing a a depressed Christian.

Why isn’t your atheism bringing you any joy or happiness? You center your life around religion still.

Go do something fun today and maybe you won’t be depressed.

+1

Job not about depression. It's about why bad things happen to good people, and about God rewarding those who remain faithful during real bad times.

If someone is depressed their whole life, I'd assume something they are doing isn't working. Maybe faith, church, and a supportive church community could be helpful. And hearing others testimonies.

“You’d assume?” Get educated. Your assumptions are wildly incorrect.

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Anonymous wrote:My whole life I’ve been surrounded by depressed Christians, including myself. The Book of Job is all about depression.

Your friend is ignorant and I’m sorry they said such an unkind thing. Depression visits the believer and unbeliever alike. This world is so awful and brutal so much of the time, I think many Christians struggle more because they have to grapple with the suffering God allows - at least we atheists can find comfort in the absurdity and randomness of life’s cruelties.

The world is so beautiful and Christians recognize how perfectly it is created by the God. I've never met a depressed Christian in my life, honestly. Even if hard times comes, they carry through it and thank the God in the end. They may struggle, but they don't get depressed. I see that the hard times only make them stronger and more grateful. I am happy that you finding your comfort and it helps you with your depression.

Wow. Consider yourself one the more fortunate beings on the planet. But I assure you that many of those happy people are quite depressed behind closed doors. There is a big mental health stigma that revolves around your exact phrasing from above. People don't seek treatment because if they pray hard enough, God will cure them. But then they are still feeling bad...and second guess themselves and their faith...which leads to more depression. Easier to just say God is testing you because you are somehow special. But just as you said above, if your naivete helps you find comfort, than I'm happy for you.

I will take to be naïveté rather than depressed on any day of my life. And I raised happy children who never experienced depression because of their relationship with God.

I can say exactly the same thing about you: it is easier to pop the pill rather than seek and find the truth in your life and connect the dots.

Wrong. You’re gross.

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Anonymous wrote:My whole life I’ve been surrounded by depressed Christians, including myself. The Book of Job is all about depression.

Your friend is ignorant and I’m sorry they said such an unkind thing. Depression visits the believer and unbeliever alike. This world is so awful and brutal so much of the time, I think many Christians struggle more because they have to grapple with the suffering God allows - at least we atheists can find comfort in the absurdity and randomness of life’s cruelties.

The world is so beautiful and Christians recognize how perfectly it is created by the God. I've never met a depressed Christian in my life, honestly. Even if hard times comes, they carry through it and thank the God in the end. They may struggle, but they don't get depressed. I see that the hard times only make them stronger and more grateful. I am happy that you finding your comfort and it helps you with your depression.

Wow. Consider yourself one the more fortunate beings on the planet. But I assure you that many of those happy people are quite depressed behind closed doors. There is a big mental health stigma that revolves around your exact phrasing from above. People don't seek treatment because if they pray hard enough, God will cure them. But then they are still feeling bad...and second guess themselves and their faith...which leads to more depression. Easier to just say God is testing you because you are somehow special. But just as you said above, if your naivete helps you find comfort, than I'm happy for you.

I will take to be naïveté rather than depressed on any day of my life. And I raised happy children who never experienced depression because of their relationship with God.

I can say exactly the same thing about you: it is easier to pop the pill rather than seek and find the truth in your life and connect the dots.

PP. God gave us a full range of emotions to feel. A healthy psyche feels all emotions, positive and negative. You have a frame a reference of what "happy" is because you have experienced "sad" and vice versa. And quite honestly, you being sure that you've discovered the secret to happiness in God and so have your children, more than millions of other Christians is silly. What dots have you all connected? It's clear that you don't suffer from depression, and that's actually a huge blessing. But until you have, until Satan has tempted you with a crappy mood, you don't know what it's like and you should not pass judgment. And I hope you never need a pill to address high blood pressure, cancer, a sinus infection, type 2 diabetes, a headache, kidney stones, congestive heart failure, etc. A neuro chemical imbalance is a physical ailment just as they are and if a body is the temple God says it is, isn't it being ungodly to ignore modern medicine to help get your brain back on track so you can worship God. Pray and meditate on this response and soften your heart to those who have an ailment that you can't relate to.

I am praying for you to understand where your chemical imbalance came from. I hope you can see the correlation between your life choices and chemical balance in your brain, in your heart and in your guts.God bless you.

These are lies and you are disgusting. Truly disgusting. And you DARE to type “God bless you” after that? Get on your knees and repent.

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Anonymous wrote:My whole life I’ve been surrounded by depressed Christians, including myself. The Book of Job is all about depression.

Your friend is ignorant and I’m sorry they said such an unkind thing. Depression visits the believer and unbeliever alike. This world is so awful and brutal so much of the time, I think many Christians struggle more because they have to grapple with the suffering God allows - at least we atheists can find comfort in the absurdity and randomness of life’s cruelties.

The world is so beautiful and Christians recognize how perfectly it is created by the God. I've never met a depressed Christian in my life, honestly. Even if hard times comes, they carry through it and thank the God in the end. They may struggle, but they don't get depressed. I see that the hard times only make them stronger and more grateful. I am happy that you finding your comfort and it helps you with your depression.

Wow. Consider yourself one the more fortunate beings on the planet. But I assure you that many of those happy people are quite depressed behind closed doors. There is a big mental health stigma that revolves around your exact phrasing from above. People don't seek treatment because if they pray hard enough, God will cure them. But then they are still feeling bad...and second guess themselves and their faith...which leads to more depression. Easier to just say God is testing you because you are somehow special. But just as you said above, if your naivete helps you find comfort, than I'm happy for you.

I will take to be naïveté rather than depressed on any day of my life. And I raised happy children who never experienced depression because of their relationship with God.

I can say exactly the same thing about you: it is easier to pop the pill rather than seek and find the truth in your life and connect the dots.

PP. God gave us a full range of emotions to feel. A healthy psyche feels all emotions, positive and negative. You have a frame a reference of what "happy" is because you have experienced "sad" and vice versa. And quite honestly, you being sure that you've discovered the secret to happiness in God and so have your children, more than millions of other Christians is silly. What dots have you all connected? It's clear that you don't suffer from depression, and that's actually a huge blessing. But until you have, until Satan has tempted you with a crappy mood, you don't know what it's like and you should not pass judgment. And I hope you never need a pill to address high blood pressure, cancer, a sinus infection, type 2 diabetes, a headache, kidney stones, congestive heart failure, etc. A neuro chemical imbalance is a physical ailment just as they are and if a body is the temple God says it is, isn't it being ungodly to ignore modern medicine to help get your brain back on track so you can worship God. Pray and meditate on this response and soften your heart to those who have an ailment that you can't relate to.

I am praying for you to understand where your chemical imbalance came from. I hope you can see the correlation between your life choices and chemical balance in your brain, in your heart and in your guts.God bless you.

These are lies and you are disgusting. Truly disgusting. And you DARE to type “God bless you” after that? Get on your knees and repent.

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Anonymous wrote:My whole life I’ve been surrounded by depressed Christians, including myself. The Book of Job is all about depression.

Your friend is ignorant and I’m sorry they said such an unkind thing. Depression visits the believer and unbeliever alike. This world is so awful and brutal so much of the time, I think many Christians struggle more because they have to grapple with the suffering God allows - at least we atheists can find comfort in the absurdity and randomness of life’s cruelties.

The world is so beautiful and Christians recognize how perfectly it is created by the God. I've never met a depressed Christian in my life, honestly. Even if hard times comes, they carry through it and thank the God in the end. They may struggle, but they don't get depressed. I see that the hard times only make them stronger and more grateful. I am happy that you finding your comfort and it helps you with your depression.

Wow. Consider yourself one the more fortunate beings on the planet. But I assure you that many of those happy people are quite depressed behind closed doors. There is a big mental health stigma that revolves around your exact phrasing from above. People don't seek treatment because if they pray hard enough, God will cure them. But then they are still feeling bad...and second guess themselves and their faith...which leads to more depression. Easier to just say God is testing you because you are somehow special. But just as you said above, if your naivete helps you find comfort, than I'm happy for you.

I will take to be naïveté rather than depressed on any day of my life. And I raised happy children who never experienced depression because of their relationship with God.

I can say exactly the same thing about you: it is easier to pop the pill rather than seek and find the truth in your life and connect the dots.

PP. God gave us a full range of emotions to feel. A healthy psyche feels all emotions, positive and negative. You have a frame a reference of what "happy" is because you have experienced "sad" and vice versa. And quite honestly, you being sure that you've discovered the secret to happiness in God and so have your children, more than millions of other Christians is silly. What dots have you all connected? It's clear that you don't suffer from depression, and that's actually a huge blessing. But until you have, until Satan has tempted you with a crappy mood, you don't know what it's like and you should not pass judgment. And I hope you never need a pill to address high blood pressure, cancer, a sinus infection, type 2 diabetes, a headache, kidney stones, congestive heart failure, etc. A neuro chemical imbalance is a physical ailment just as they are and if a body is the temple God says it is, isn't it being ungodly to ignore modern medicine to help get your brain back on track so you can worship God. Pray and meditate on this response and soften your heart to those who have an ailment that you can't relate to.

I am praying for you to understand where your chemical imbalance came from. I hope you can see the correlation between your life choices and chemical balance in your brain, in your heart and in your guts.God bless you.

These are lies and you are disgusting. Truly disgusting. And you DARE to type “God bless you” after that? Get on your knees and repent.

This thread, along with op’s post, is ludicrous. Op is an anti-Christian troll, and is long gone. He/she lost interest in trolling pages and pages ago.

Now, we have people shrieking repent and ordering other anonymous posters to “get on their knees.”

It’s beyond ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a cop out answer, OP. Easier than offering you help in ways that might give you more time to go to therapy, exercise, et al. She could make a few healthy meals and drop off, or watch your kids for a few hours.

Do you really believe that a few healthy meals can help with clinical depression? OP said she has been in therapy for years. Few more sessions will not make a difference.

And finding Jesus will make a difference?

Some people continue learning from therapy and should not drop it because of a stranger on the internet or a friend pushing a religious cure.

Yes. Finding Jesus does make a difference. Bonus - it costs way less than any therapy!

You are part of the problem.

How can you 'find' Jesus if you just don't fundamentally believe in any one of the many man made religions (btw which one is the right one?. It's like trying to force yourself into believing in Santa...

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a cop out answer, OP. Easier than offering you help in ways that might give you more time to go to therapy, exercise, et al. She could make a few healthy meals and drop off, or watch your kids for a few hours.

Do you really believe that a few healthy meals can help with clinical depression? OP said she has been in therapy for years. Few more sessions will not make a difference.

And finding Jesus will make a difference?

Some people continue learning from therapy and should not drop it because of a stranger on the internet or a friend pushing a religious cure.

Yes. Finding Jesus does make a difference. Bonus - it costs way less than any therapy!

You are part of the problem.

How can you 'find' Jesus if you just don't fundamentally believe in any one of the many man made religions (btw which one is the right one?. It's like trying to force yourself into believing in Santa...

Educate yourself and search for the facts. No one ever asked us to believe in Santa without knowing the history of where he came from. Travel to the region where Jesus lived. Study archeological findings. Read. Read a lot. But before you read, pray that the God open your heart to understand the truth.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a cop out answer, OP. Easier than offering you help in ways that might give you more time to go to therapy, exercise, et al. She could make a few healthy meals and drop off, or watch your kids for a few hours.

Do you really believe that a few healthy meals can help with clinical depression? OP said she has been in therapy for years. Few more sessions will not make a difference.

And finding Jesus will make a difference?

Some people continue learning from therapy and should not drop it because of a stranger on the internet or a friend pushing a religious cure.

Yes. Finding Jesus does make a difference. Bonus - it costs way less than any therapy!

You are part of the problem.

You are funny. OP's problem don't come from people who live happy and content life. OP's problems come from people like you who convinced that living with depression is normal. Your soul is like a jar, it cannot remain empty. If you don't fill it in with a light, it will be filled with a darkness. And to fill it with the light, you have to take action. The good thing is that OP has the choice of how to fill it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My whole life I’ve been surrounded by depressed Christians, including myself. The Book of Job is all about depression.

Your friend is ignorant and I’m sorry they said such an unkind thing. Depression visits the believer and unbeliever alike. This world is so awful and brutal so much of the time, I think many Christians struggle more because they have to grapple with the suffering God allows - at least we atheists can find comfort in the absurdity and randomness of life’s cruelties.

The world is so beautiful and Christians recognize how perfectly it is created by the God. I've never met a depressed Christian in my life, honestly. Even if hard times comes, they carry through it and thank the God in the end. They may struggle, but they don't get depressed. I see that the hard times only make them stronger and more grateful. I am happy that you finding your comfort and it helps you with your depression.

Wow. Consider yourself one the more fortunate beings on the planet. But I assure you that many of those happy people are quite depressed behind closed doors. There is a big mental health stigma that revolves around your exact phrasing from above. People don't seek treatment because if they pray hard enough, God will cure them. But then they are still feeling bad...and second guess themselves and their faith...which leads to more depression. Easier to just say God is testing you because you are somehow special. But just as you said above, if your naivete helps you find comfort, than I'm happy for you.

I will take to be naïveté rather than depressed on any day of my life. And I raised happy children who never experienced depression because of their relationship with God.

I can say exactly the same thing about you: it is easier to pop the pill rather than seek and find the truth in your life and connect the dots.

Wrong. You’re gross.

No, depressed people are gross. Happy people are beutiful people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My whole life I’ve been surrounded by depressed Christians, including myself. The Book of Job is all about depression.

Your friend is ignorant and I’m sorry they said such an unkind thing. Depression visits the believer and unbeliever alike. This world is so awful and brutal so much of the time, I think many Christians struggle more because they have to grapple with the suffering God allows - at least we atheists can find comfort in the absurdity and randomness of life’s cruelties.

The book of Job is not all about depression.

You are a troll. You first say you’ve been surrounded by depressed Christians, including yourself.

Then you say “we atheists.”

Atheist posing as depressed Christian much? You are a depressed atheist who trolls a religion board posing a a depressed Christian.

Why isn’t your atheism bringing you any joy or happiness? You center your life around religion still.

Go do something fun today and maybe you won’t be depressed.

+1

Job not about depression. It's about why bad things happen to good people, and about God rewarding those who remain faithful during real bad times.

If someone is depressed their whole life, I'd assume something they are doing isn't working. Maybe faith, church, and a supportive church community could be helpful. And hearing others testimonies.

“You’d assume?” Get educated. Your assumptions are wildly incorrect.

Why is that assumption incorrect? If the person have been depressed for many years, tried therapy and treatment that does not work, what other correct assumption would be? The only one is that whatever they are doing is not working and it is time to try something different. The only other option would be to continue doing it wrong and to continue to be depressed for the rest of their lives.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a cop out answer, OP. Easier than offering you help in ways that might give you more time to go to therapy, exercise, et al. She could make a few healthy meals and drop off, or watch your kids for a few hours.

Do you really believe that a few healthy meals can help with clinical depression? OP said she has been in therapy for years. Few more sessions will not make a difference.

And finding Jesus will make a difference?

Some people continue learning from therapy and should not drop it because of a stranger on the internet or a friend pushing a religious cure.

Yes. Finding Jesus does make a difference. Bonus - it costs way less than any therapy!

You are part of the problem.

You are funny. OP's problem don't come from people who live happy and content life. OP's problems come from people like you who convinced that living with depression is normal. Your soul is like a jar, it cannot remain empty. If you don't fill it in with a light, it will be filled with a darkness. And to fill it with the light, you have to take action. The good thing is that OP has the choice of how to fill it.

I sort of agree with that. If all the therapists and medications and treatments have failed? If you have struggled with depression your entire life, tried every possible treatment and multiple medications, had many different psychiatric interventions, and modern treatments and medications have failed you?

You can’t just stay in the dark of depression your entire life. Try something different. You have to try, for yourself and your loved ones.

It’s gross to suggest a person suffers for decades and dies in mental agony and doesn’t try to live a better quality of life for their own happiness.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a cop out answer, OP. Easier than offering you help in ways that might give you more time to go to therapy, exercise, et al. She could make a few healthy meals and drop off, or watch your kids for a few hours.

Do you really believe that a few healthy meals can help with clinical depression? OP said she has been in therapy for years. Few more sessions will not make a difference.

And finding Jesus will make a difference?

Some people continue learning from therapy and should not drop it because of a stranger on the internet or a friend pushing a religious cure.

Yes. Finding Jesus does make a difference. Bonus - it costs way less than any therapy!

You are part of the problem.

You are funny. OP's problem don't come from people who live happy and content life. OP's problems come from people like you who convinced that living with depression is normal. Your soul is like a jar, it cannot remain empty. If you don't fill it in with a light, it will be filled with a darkness. And to fill it with the light, you have to take action. The good thing is that OP has the choice of how to fill it.

I sort of agree with that. If all the therapists and medications and treatments have failed? If you have struggled with depression your entire life, tried every possible treatment and multiple medications, had many different psychiatric interventions, and modern treatments and medications have failed you?

You can’t just stay in the dark of depression your entire life. Try something different. You have to try, for yourself and your loved ones.

It’s gross to suggest a person suffers for decades and dies in mental agony and doesn’t try to live a better quality of life for their own happiness.

So, what the hell, OP-- try religion. and if that doesn't work, too bad - Christians will tell you that you just need to keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a cop out answer, OP. Easier than offering you help in ways that might give you more time to go to therapy, exercise, et al. She could make a few healthy meals and drop off, or watch your kids for a few hours.

Do you really believe that a few healthy meals can help with clinical depression? OP said she has been in therapy for years. Few more sessions will not make a difference.

And finding Jesus will make a difference?

Some people continue learning from therapy and should not drop it because of a stranger on the internet or a friend pushing a religious cure.

Yes. Finding Jesus does make a difference. Bonus - it costs way less than any therapy!

You are part of the problem.

You are funny. OP's problem don't come from people who live happy and content life. OP's problems come from people like you who convinced that living with depression is normal. Your soul is like a jar, it cannot remain empty. If you don't fill it in with a light, it will be filled with a darkness. And to fill it with the light, you have to take action. The good thing is that OP has the choice of how to fill it.

I sort of agree with that. If all the therapists and medications and treatments have failed? If you have struggled with depression your entire life, tried every possible treatment and multiple medications, had many different psychiatric interventions, and modern treatments and medications have failed you?

You can’t just stay in the dark of depression your entire life. Try something different. You have to try, for yourself and your loved ones.

It’s gross to suggest a person suffers for decades and dies in mental agony and doesn’t try to live a better quality of life for their own happiness.

So, what the hell, OP-- try religion. and if that doesn't work, too bad - Christians will tell you that you just need to keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are speaking for Christians in the absence of the need to do so. I have two suggestions, that either your parents either neglected to teach you, or you were taught, but refuse to abide by:

1. Don’t generalize, especially about people, especially about their deeply held, deeply personal beliefs

2. Don’t speak for a person, or group of people. Let people speak for themselves.

I choose to believe your parents taught you these lessons, and you just need a simple reminder to implement them to be a kind, socially responsible citizen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a cop out answer, OP. Easier than offering you help in ways that might give you more time to go to therapy, exercise, et al. She could make a few healthy meals and drop off, or watch your kids for a few hours.

Do you really believe that a few healthy meals can help with clinical depression? OP said she has been in therapy for years. Few more sessions will not make a difference.

And finding Jesus will make a difference?

Some people continue learning from therapy and should not drop it because of a stranger on the internet or a friend pushing a religious cure.

Yes. Finding Jesus does make a difference. Bonus - it costs way less than any therapy!

You are part of the problem.

You are funny. OP's problem don't come from people who live happy and content life. OP's problems come from people like you who convinced that living with depression is normal. Your soul is like a jar, it cannot remain empty. If you don't fill it in with a light, it will be filled with a darkness. And to fill it with the light, you have to take action. The good thing is that OP has the choice of how to fill it.

I sort of agree with that. If all the therapists and medications and treatments have failed? If you have struggled with depression your entire life, tried every possible treatment and multiple medications, had many different psychiatric interventions, and modern treatments and medications have failed you?

You can’t just stay in the dark of depression your entire life. Try something different. You have to try, for yourself and your loved ones.

It’s gross to suggest a person suffers for decades and dies in mental agony and doesn’t try to live a better quality of life for their own happiness.

But isn't it a final goal of the government to keep everyone depressed, on meds and under control? Why would the government want someone in charge of their lives? Someone who has control over their own choices? This would be contrary to the current policies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a cop out answer, OP. Easier than offering you help in ways that might give you more time to go to therapy, exercise, et al. She could make a few healthy meals and drop off, or watch your kids for a few hours.

Do you really believe that a few healthy meals can help with clinical depression? OP said she has been in therapy for years. Few more sessions will not make a difference.

And finding Jesus will make a difference?

Some people continue learning from therapy and should not drop it because of a stranger on the internet or a friend pushing a religious cure.

Yes. Finding Jesus does make a difference. Bonus - it costs way less than any therapy!

You are part of the problem.

You are part of the problem because you encourage people to be dependable on drugs, psychiatrists and government for rest of their lives.