Told by christian friend that my lifelong depression is because I don’t “know Jesus”

[Anonymous]

This ignorant, cultist a-hole is NOT your friend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This ignorant, cultist a-hole is NOT your friend.

Living positive and happy life can start from not calling people names. Even if OP does not want to turn to Jesus, maybe it will be a good start just to be kind to other people, especially the ones she consider friends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This ignorant, cultist a-hole is NOT your friend.

Living positive and happy life can start from not calling people names. Even if OP does not want to turn to Jesus, maybe it will be a good start just to be kind to other people, especially the ones she consider friends.

DP here.

Sometimes people need to be told the truth. Would you hold the same position if "friend" in question was a racist, or a criminal? No, you would not. You would not be concerned with kindness to them, because they would not deserve it; and neither does this "ignorant, cultist a-hole".

Calling a bad person a bad person is the ethical path.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This ignorant, cultist a-hole is NOT your friend.

Living positive and happy life can start from not calling people names. Even if OP does not want to turn to Jesus, maybe it will be a good start just to be kind to other people, especially the ones she consider friends.

DP here.

Sometimes people need to be told the truth. Would you hold the same position if "friend" in question was a racist, or a criminal? No, you would not. You would not be concerned with kindness to them, because they would not deserve it; and neither does this "ignorant, cultist a-hole".

Calling a bad person a bad person is the ethical path.

Good point. We tend to thinks of religious people as good. some are and some are not. Certainly the person OP describes is NOT GOOD and should not be deferred to just because they claim to be Christian.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This ignorant, cultist a-hole is NOT your friend.

Living positive and happy life can start from not calling people names. Even if OP does not want to turn to Jesus, maybe it will be a good start just to be kind to other people, especially the ones she consider friends.

DP here.

Sometimes people need to be told the truth. Would you hold the same position if "friend" in question was a racist, or a criminal? No, you would not. You would not be concerned with kindness to them, because they would not deserve it; and neither does this "ignorant, cultist a-hole".

Calling a bad person a bad person is the ethical path.

That is your call. I don't judge people and I don't judge friends. None of my friends are perfect, and some do have criminal convictions and payed their dues to society. I am still kind to them and I love them. But your "ethical" path is different and you can treat people with hate and be judgmental.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This ignorant, cultist a-hole is NOT your friend.

Living positive and happy life can start from not calling people names. Even if OP does not want to turn to Jesus, maybe it will be a good start just to be kind to other people, especially the ones she consider friends.

DP here.

Sometimes people need to be told the truth. Would you hold the same position if "friend" in question was a racist, or a criminal? No, you would not. You would not be concerned with kindness to them, because they would not deserve it; and neither does this "ignorant, cultist a-hole".

Calling a bad person a bad person is the ethical path.

Good point. We tend to thinks of religious people as good. some are and some are not. Certainly the person OP describes is NOT GOOD and should not be deferred to just because they claim to be Christian.

NOT GOOD by what standards? What is your measure of good and bad person?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This ignorant, cultist a-hole is NOT your friend.

Living positive and happy life can start from not calling people names. Even if OP does not want to turn to Jesus, maybe it will be a good start just to be kind to other people, especially the ones she consider friends.

DP here.

Sometimes people need to be told the truth. Would you hold the same position if "friend" in question was a racist, or a criminal? No, you would not. You would not be concerned with kindness to them, because they would not deserve it; and neither does this "ignorant, cultist a-hole".

Calling a bad person a bad person is the ethical path.

That is your call. I don't judge people and I don't judge friends. None of my friends are perfect, and some do have criminal convictions and payed their dues to society. I am still kind to them and I love them. But your "ethical" path is different and you can treat people with hate and be judgmental.

So you would be kind to a friend who was a neo-Nazi and said antisemitic things to you? You would be kind to a person who was an active (not repentant) theif?

I am sorry, that is a person I am just fine judging. And yes I put the OP's friend in that category.

[Anonymous]

It’s a cop out answer, OP. Easier than offering you help in ways that might give you more time to go to therapy, exercise, et al. She could make a few healthy meals and drop off, or watch your kids for a few hours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The title pretty much says it all. In many ways, over the past few years, she has said that my depression I’ve suffered with off and on since childhood, is because I haven’t “accepted Jesus into my heart”.

She has said things like “it’s a sin to be depressed with everything god has done for me”
“I will know happiness when I’m saved”
“Psychological counseling is sinful because the Bible alone should be enough”

And other statements like that.

Over the past few months I’ve seen her less and less but we were just texting yesterday and she was saying these things again. I told her I didn’t want to talk about the subject with her anymore and ended the conversation but it has upset me again that other than this topic I am friends with her but i find this topic too hurtful and kind of unbelievable to be honest. In many ways, her pushing this issue has led me to even question my own faith .

This is all in spite of the fact that up until the past year, I’ve been a lifelong christian…just not of the “born again” type .

So get born again and see if your depression goes away. If it doesn't, you can always give it up.

[Anonymous]

Troll. Not even a good one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This ignorant, cultist a-hole is NOT your friend.

Living positive and happy life can start from not calling people names. Even if OP does not want to turn to Jesus, maybe it will be a good start just to be kind to other people, especially the ones she consider friends.

DP here.

Sometimes people need to be told the truth. Would you hold the same position if "friend" in question was a racist, or a criminal? No, you would not. You would not be concerned with kindness to them, because they would not deserve it; and neither does this "ignorant, cultist a-hole".

Calling a bad person a bad person is the ethical path.

That is your call. I don't judge people and I don't judge friends. None of my friends are perfect, and some do have criminal convictions and payed their dues to society. I am still kind to them and I love them. But your "ethical" path is different and you can treat people with hate and be judgmental.

So you would be kind to a friend who was a neo-Nazi and said antisemitic things to you? You would be kind to a person who was an active (not repentant) theif?

I am sorry, that is a person I am just fine judging. And yes I put the OP's friend in that category.

Why is it hard for you to understand? If you have a kind heart, you are kind to everyone, regardless of their past, race, origin, political or religions affiliation. You cannot turn your heart on/off from being kind/not kind. It seems like a foreign concept to you. You are judgmental person and should start with yourself first before judging anybody else. I've heard a lot of antisematic things in my life. My family members were executed for being Jewish. It does not stop me from being kind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s a cop out answer, OP. Easier than offering you help in ways that might give you more time to go to therapy, exercise, et al. She could make a few healthy meals and drop off, or watch your kids for a few hours.

Do you really believe that a few healthy meals can help with clinical depression? OP said she has been in therapy for years. Few more sessions will not make a difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a cop out answer, OP. Easier than offering you help in ways that might give you more time to go to therapy, exercise, et al. She could make a few healthy meals and drop off, or watch your kids for a few hours.

Do you really believe that a few healthy meals can help with clinical depression? OP said she has been in therapy for years. Few more sessions will not make a difference.

And finding Jesus will make a difference?

Some people continue learning from therapy and should not drop it because of a stranger on the internet or a friend pushing a religious cure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a cop out answer, OP. Easier than offering you help in ways that might give you more time to go to therapy, exercise, et al. She could make a few healthy meals and drop off, or watch your kids for a few hours.

Do you really believe that a few healthy meals can help with clinical depression? OP said she has been in therapy for years. Few more sessions will not make a difference.

And finding Jesus will make a difference?

Some people continue learning from therapy and should not drop it because of a stranger on the internet or a friend pushing a religious cure.

Yes. Finding Jesus does make a difference. Bonus - it costs way less than any therapy!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a cop out answer, OP. Easier than offering you help in ways that might give you more time to go to therapy, exercise, et al. She could make a few healthy meals and drop off, or watch your kids for a few hours.

Do you really believe that a few healthy meals can help with clinical depression? OP said she has been in therapy for years. Few more sessions will not make a difference.

And finding Jesus will make a difference?

Some people continue learning from therapy and should not drop it because of a stranger on the internet or a friend pushing a religious cure.

Yes. Finding Jesus does make a difference. Bonus - it costs way less than any therapy!

You are part of the problem.