interesting discussion regarding abysmal decline of MoCo schools

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Anonymous wrote:Still the best public school system in the nation and significantly stronger than top area privates in STEM

Not even close on either statement. But they pay you to write garbage. Well done!

DP
No private school in the area can even come close to MCPS when it comes to STEM. That's a fact.
MCPS is still the best large school system in the nation.

Data from MCPS shows dramatic drops in elementary school students’ math and English test scores.

Literacy readiness dropped 35% for second graders from the 2018-2019 to 2020-2021 schools years, the data shows. Math readiness for fifth graders was down 25%.

Literacy was down for Black second graders by 38%. Hispanic second graders had a 46% drop.

Actually no. They are surpassing benchmark for literacy and are closing in on the math benchmark. They are catching up on the pandemic loss.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/09/23/montomgery-county-student-test-scores/

From WTOP, in case one cannot read it from the post. This report has been out since September but never discussed here because it doesn't fit DCUM narrative.
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/09/montgomery-co-schools-exceed-literacy-expectations-but-miss-target-for-math/

So, is there data showing that scores have improved since September? What is your point?

DP.. the point is that math instruction isn't up to par, probably because they don't give out enough HW for the kids to review. Math requires practice. They have about 30min in class to learn the material *and* do the classwork. That's not enough time. They need more math HW. Even 20min most days would help. Reading also requires practice, but kids get that practice in other classes like social studies/history, even science. They aren't getting enough math practice.

Academic data presented Thursday to the county’s board of education showed that roughly 72% of students met literacy standards, exceeding Montgomery County Public Schools’ target of 66%.

But for math, 61% of students met the county’s math standards, just short of its goal of 64%.

30 mins??? What school is this? Math and ELA are the largest blocks within the school day at the elementary level. They take up huge amounts of time. Social Studies and Science get like one day a week(sadly) and then usually during certain intervals.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still the best public school system in the nation and significantly stronger than top area privates in STEM

Not even close on either statement. But they pay you to write garbage. Well done!

DP
No private school in the area can even come close to MCPS when it comes to STEM. That's a fact.
MCPS is still the best large school system in the nation.

Data from MCPS shows dramatic drops in elementary school students’ math and English test scores.

Literacy readiness dropped 35% for second graders from the 2018-2019 to 2020-2021 schools years, the data shows. Math readiness for fifth graders was down 25%.

Literacy was down for Black second graders by 38%. Hispanic second graders had a 46% drop.

Actually no. They are surpassing benchmark for literacy and are closing in on the math benchmark. They are catching up on the pandemic loss.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/09/23/montomgery-county-student-test-scores/

From WTOP, in case one cannot read it from the post. This report has been out since September but never discussed here because it doesn't fit DCUM narrative.
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/09/montgomery-co-schools-exceed-literacy-expectations-but-miss-target-for-math/

So, is there data showing that scores have improved since September? What is your point?

DP.. the point is that math instruction isn't up to par, probably because they don't give out enough HW for the kids to review. Math requires practice. They have about 30min in class to learn the material *and* do the classwork. That's not enough time. They need more math HW. Even 20min most days would help. Reading also requires practice, but kids get that practice in other classes like social studies/history, even science. They aren't getting enough math practice.

Academic data presented Thursday to the county’s board of education showed that roughly 72% of students met literacy standards, exceeding Montgomery County Public Schools’ target of 66%.

But for math, 61% of students met the county’s math standards, just short of its goal of 64%.

I think we can all agree that assigning homework is not an equitable way to educate.

So giving homework assignments is not, and can not be, the answer in Montgomery county. Period.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still the best public school system in the nation and significantly stronger than top area privates in STEM

Not even close on either statement. But they pay you to write garbage. Well done!

DP
No private school in the area can even come close to MCPS when it comes to STEM. That's a fact.
MCPS is still the best large school system in the nation.

Data from MCPS shows dramatic drops in elementary school students’ math and English test scores.

Literacy readiness dropped 35% for second graders from the 2018-2019 to 2020-2021 schools years, the data shows. Math readiness for fifth graders was down 25%.

Literacy was down for Black second graders by 38%. Hispanic second graders had a 46% drop.

Actually no. They are surpassing benchmark for literacy and are closing in on the math benchmark. They are catching up on the pandemic loss.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/09/23/montomgery-county-student-test-scores/

From WTOP, in case one cannot read it from the post. This report has been out since September but never discussed here because it doesn't fit DCUM narrative.
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/09/montgomery-co-schools-exceed-literacy-expectations-but-miss-target-for-math/

So, is there data showing that scores have improved since September? What is your point?

DP.. the point is that math instruction isn't up to par, probably because they don't give out enough HW for the kids to review. Math requires practice. They have about 30min in class to learn the material *and* do the classwork. That's not enough time. They need more math HW. Even 20min most days would help. Reading also requires practice, but kids get that practice in other classes like social studies/history, even science. They aren't getting enough math practice.

Academic data presented Thursday to the county’s board of education showed that roughly 72% of students met literacy standards, exceeding Montgomery County Public Schools’ target of 66%.

But for math, 61% of students met the county’s math standards, just short of its goal of 64%.

I think we can all agree that assigning homework is not an equitable way to educate.

So giving homework assignments is not, and can not be, the answer in Montgomery county. Period.

We should all agree that homework in elementary school is not an EFFECTIVE way to educate, but apparently we don't, so we keep getting foolish troll-ey posts like the previous one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still the best public school system in the nation and significantly stronger than top area privates in STEM

Not even close on either statement. But they pay you to write garbage. Well done!

DP
No private school in the area can even come close to MCPS when it comes to STEM. That's a fact.
MCPS is still the best large school system in the nation.

Data from MCPS shows dramatic drops in elementary school students’ math and English test scores.

Literacy readiness dropped 35% for second graders from the 2018-2019 to 2020-2021 schools years, the data shows. Math readiness for fifth graders was down 25%.

Literacy was down for Black second graders by 38%. Hispanic second graders had a 46% drop.

Actually no. They are surpassing benchmark for literacy and are closing in on the math benchmark. They are catching up on the pandemic loss.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/09/23/montomgery-county-student-test-scores/

From WTOP, in case one cannot read it from the post. This report has been out since September but never discussed here because it doesn't fit DCUM narrative.
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/09/montgomery-co-schools-exceed-literacy-expectations-but-miss-target-for-math/

So, is there data showing that scores have improved since September? What is your point?

DP.. the point is that math instruction isn't up to par, probably because they don't give out enough HW for the kids to review. Math requires practice. They have about 30min in class to learn the material *and* do the classwork. That's not enough time. They need more math HW. Even 20min most days would help. Reading also requires practice, but kids get that practice in other classes like social studies/history, even science. They aren't getting enough math practice.

Academic data presented Thursday to the county’s board of education showed that roughly 72% of students met literacy standards, exceeding Montgomery County Public Schools’ target of 66%.

But for math, 61% of students met the county’s math standards, just short of its goal of 64%.

30 mins??? What school is this? Math and ELA are the largest blocks within the school day at the elementary level. They take up huge amounts of time. Social Studies and Science get like one day a week(sadly) and then usually during certain intervals.

Do you have kids in MCPS? MCPS does not allow for differentiation in ES in the name of Equity. So, each teacher has about 4-5 Math groups and 4-5 Language Arts groups in their classroom of 26 kids.

The teacher can only really spend about 10 minutes with each group. Your kid is lucky if he/she gets 30 minutes of direct Math instruction from his/her teacher.

Most of the time is spent on ‘independent work’ or random Math apps online.

Agree that the lack of Social Studies and Science in ES is sad. MCPS pretty much ignores Science in ES.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still the best public school system in the nation and significantly stronger than top area privates in STEM

Not even close on either statement. But they pay you to write garbage. Well done!

DP
No private school in the area can even come close to MCPS when it comes to STEM. That's a fact.
MCPS is still the best large school system in the nation.

Data from MCPS shows dramatic drops in elementary school students’ math and English test scores.

Literacy readiness dropped 35% for second graders from the 2018-2019 to 2020-2021 schools years, the data shows. Math readiness for fifth graders was down 25%.

Literacy was down for Black second graders by 38%. Hispanic second graders had a 46% drop.

Actually no. They are surpassing benchmark for literacy and are closing in on the math benchmark. They are catching up on the pandemic loss.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/09/23/montomgery-county-student-test-scores/

From WTOP, in case one cannot read it from the post. This report has been out since September but never discussed here because it doesn't fit DCUM narrative.
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/09/montgomery-co-schools-exceed-literacy-expectations-but-miss-target-for-math/

So, is there data showing that scores have improved since September? What is your point?

It refutes your claim that "Data from MCPS shows dramatic drops in elementary school students’ math and English test scores." But don't let fact get in your way. Carry on...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still the best public school system in the nation and significantly stronger than top area privates in STEM

Not even close on either statement. But they pay you to write garbage. Well done!

DP
No private school in the area can even come close to MCPS when it comes to STEM. That's a fact.
MCPS is still the best large school system in the nation.

Data from MCPS shows dramatic drops in elementary school students’ math and English test scores.

Literacy readiness dropped 35% for second graders from the 2018-2019 to 2020-2021 schools years, the data shows. Math readiness for fifth graders was down 25%.

Literacy was down for Black second graders by 38%. Hispanic second graders had a 46% drop.

Actually no. They are surpassing benchmark for literacy and are closing in on the math benchmark. They are catching up on the pandemic loss.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/09/23/montomgery-county-student-test-scores/

From WTOP, in case one cannot read it from the post. This report has been out since September but never discussed here because it doesn't fit DCUM narrative.
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/09/montgomery-co-schools-exceed-literacy-expectations-but-miss-target-for-math/

Yes! I simply can't abide posters who won't embrace the crazy idea that society is in free fall decline and the only remedy are crazy far-right policies!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still the best public school system in the nation and significantly stronger than top area privates in STEM

Not even close on either statement. But they pay you to write garbage. Well done!

DP
No private school in the area can even come close to MCPS when it comes to STEM. That's a fact.
MCPS is still the best large school system in the nation.

Data from MCPS shows dramatic drops in elementary school students’ math and English test scores.

Literacy readiness dropped 35% for second graders from the 2018-2019 to 2020-2021 schools years, the data shows. Math readiness for fifth graders was down 25%.

Literacy was down for Black second graders by 38%. Hispanic second graders had a 46% drop.

Actually no. They are surpassing benchmark for literacy and are closing in on the math benchmark. They are catching up on the pandemic loss.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/09/23/montomgery-county-student-test-scores/

From WTOP, in case one cannot read it from the post. This report has been out since September but never discussed here because it doesn't fit DCUM narrative.
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/09/montgomery-co-schools-exceed-literacy-expectations-but-miss-target-for-math/

So, is there data showing that scores have improved since September? What is your point?

DP.. the point is that math instruction isn't up to par, probably because they don't give out enough HW for the kids to review. Math requires practice. They have about 30min in class to learn the material *and* do the classwork. That's not enough time. They need more math HW. Even 20min most days would help. Reading also requires practice, but kids get that practice in other classes like social studies/history, even science. They aren't getting enough math practice.

Academic data presented Thursday to the county’s board of education showed that roughly 72% of students met literacy standards, exceeding Montgomery County Public Schools’ target of 66%.

But for math, 61% of students met the county’s math standards, just short of its goal of 64%.

I think we can all agree that assigning homework is not an equitable way to educate.

So giving homework assignments is not, and can not be, the answer in Montgomery county. Period.

We should all agree that homework in elementary school is not an EFFECTIVE way to educate, but apparently we don't, so we keep getting foolish troll-ey posts like the previous one.

Yes, it's not effective when the kids don't do the HW, and when teachers give them 50% for a lame attempt at doing the HW, if even an attempt.

Kids who get tutored in math probably aren't the ones who meet the benchmark. Why? Repetition.

FWIW, neither of my kids are tutored but I did get a Singapore math book when they were in ES and had them do a few pages every so often. Even this level of repetition and practice helps.

I volunteered in one of my DC's so called advanced math track class, and oh boy, some of the kids barely knew their multiplication tables. And this was pre-covid. I'm sure it's gotten worse.

Remembering multiplication tables takes practice. When my kids were in ES, they played multiplication games at home because the teachers hardly ever assigned HW. They are both now in HS, straight As in math, always 90%+ile in MAP.

Not all parents have the means to get their kids practice math books or play multiplication games with them at home, so yes, the teachers need to provide some HW.

I realize that people like you don't want teachers to give out HW because they feel it's racist because certain groups don't have parents who can help. I also didn't have any help from my parents. They didn't speak English. But, they pushed me to get good grades and that meant I did my HW.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still the best public school system in the nation and significantly stronger than top area privates in STEM

Not even close on either statement. But they pay you to write garbage. Well done!

DP
No private school in the area can even come close to MCPS when it comes to STEM. That's a fact.
MCPS is still the best large school system in the nation.

Data from MCPS shows dramatic drops in elementary school students’ math and English test scores.

Literacy readiness dropped 35% for second graders from the 2018-2019 to 2020-2021 schools years, the data shows. Math readiness for fifth graders was down 25%.

Literacy was down for Black second graders by 38%. Hispanic second graders had a 46% drop.

Actually no. They are surpassing benchmark for literacy and are closing in on the math benchmark. They are catching up on the pandemic loss.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/09/23/montomgery-county-student-test-scores/

From WTOP, in case one cannot read it from the post. This report has been out since September but never discussed here because it doesn't fit DCUM narrative.
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/09/montgomery-co-schools-exceed-literacy-expectations-but-miss-target-for-math/

So, is there data showing that scores have improved since September? What is your point?

DP.. the point is that math instruction isn't up to par, probably because they don't give out enough HW for the kids to review. Math requires practice. They have about 30min in class to learn the material *and* do the classwork. That's not enough time. They need more math HW. Even 20min most days would help. Reading also requires practice, but kids get that practice in other classes like social studies/history, even science. They aren't getting enough math practice.

Academic data presented Thursday to the county’s board of education showed that roughly 72% of students met literacy standards, exceeding Montgomery County Public Schools’ target of 66%.

But for math, 61% of students met the county’s math standards, just short of its goal of 64%.

I think we can all agree that assigning homework is not an equitable way to educate.

So giving homework assignments is not, and can not be, the answer in Montgomery county. Period.

We should all agree that homework in elementary school is not an EFFECTIVE way to educate, but apparently we don't, so we keep getting foolish troll-ey posts like the previous one.

Yes, it's not effective when the kids don't do the HW, and when teachers give them 50% for a lame attempt at doing the HW, if even an attempt.

Kids who get tutored in math probably aren't the ones who meet the benchmark. Why? Repetition.

FWIW, neither of my kids are tutored but I did get a Singapore math book when they were in ES and had them do a few pages every so often. Even this level of repetition and practice helps.

I volunteered in one of my DC's so called advanced math track class, and oh boy, some of the kids barely knew their multiplication tables. And this was pre-covid. I'm sure it's gotten worse.

Remembering multiplication tables takes practice. When my kids were in ES, they played multiplication games at home because the teachers hardly ever assigned HW. They are both now in HS, straight As in math, always 90%+ile in MAP.

Not all parents have the means to get their kids practice math books or play multiplication games with them at home, so yes, the teachers need to provide some HW.

I realize that people like you don't want teachers to give out HW because they feel it's racist because certain groups don't have parents who can help. I also didn't have any help from my parents. They didn't speak English. But, they pushed me to get good grades and that meant I did my HW.

gr.. quote fix.

Yes, it's not effective when the kids don't do the HW, and when teachers give them 50% for a lame attempt at doing the HW, if even an attempt.

Kids who get tutored in math probably aren't the ones who DON'T meet the benchmark. Why? Repetition.

FWIW, neither of my kids are tutored but I did get a Singapore math book when they were in ES and had them do a few pages every so often. Even this level of repetition and practice helps.

I volunteered in one of my DC's so called advanced math track class, and oh boy, some of the kids barely knew their multiplication tables. And this was pre-covid. I'm sure it's gotten worse.

Remembering multiplication tables takes practice. When my kids were in ES, they played multiplication games at home because the teachers hardly ever assigned HW. They are both now in HS, straight As in math, always 90%+ile in MAP.

Not all parents have the means to get their kids practice math books or play multiplication games with them at home, so yes, the teachers need to provide some HW.

I realize that people like you don't want teachers to give out HW because they feel it's racist because certain groups don't have parents who can help. I also didn't have any help from my parents. They didn't speak English. But, they pushed me to get good grades and that meant I did my HW.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still the best public school system in the nation and significantly stronger than top area privates in STEM

Not even close on either statement. But they pay you to write garbage. Well done!

DP
No private school in the area can even come close to MCPS when it comes to STEM. That's a fact.
MCPS is still the best large school system in the nation.

Data from MCPS shows dramatic drops in elementary school students’ math and English test scores.

Literacy readiness dropped 35% for second graders from the 2018-2019 to 2020-2021 schools years, the data shows. Math readiness for fifth graders was down 25%.

Literacy was down for Black second graders by 38%. Hispanic second graders had a 46% drop.

Actually no. They are surpassing benchmark for literacy and are closing in on the math benchmark. They are catching up on the pandemic loss.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/09/23/montomgery-county-student-test-scores/

From WTOP, in case one cannot read it from the post. This report has been out since September but never discussed here because it doesn't fit DCUM narrative.
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/09/montgomery-co-schools-exceed-literacy-expectations-but-miss-target-for-math/

So, is there data showing that scores have improved since September? What is your point?

DP.. the point is that math instruction isn't up to par, probably because they don't give out enough HW for the kids to review. Math requires practice. They have about 30min in class to learn the material *and* do the classwork. That's not enough time. They need more math HW. Even 20min most days would help. Reading also requires practice, but kids get that practice in other classes like social studies/history, even science. They aren't getting enough math practice.

Academic data presented Thursday to the county’s board of education showed that roughly 72% of students met literacy standards, exceeding Montgomery County Public Schools’ target of 66%.

But for math, 61% of students met the county’s math standards, just short of its goal of 64%.

I think we can all agree that assigning homework is not an equitable way to educate.

So giving homework assignments is not, and can not be, the answer in Montgomery county. Period.

We should all agree that homework in elementary school is not an EFFECTIVE way to educate, but apparently we don't, so we keep getting foolish troll-ey posts like the previous one.

Yes, it's not effective when the kids don't do the HW, and when teachers give them 50% for a lame attempt at doing the HW, if even an attempt.

Kids who get tutored in math probably aren't the ones who meet the benchmark. Why? Repetition.

FWIW, neither of my kids are tutored but I did get a Singapore math book when they were in ES and had them do a few pages every so often. Even this level of repetition and practice helps.

I volunteered in one of my DC's so called advanced math track class, and oh boy, some of the kids barely knew their multiplication tables. And this was pre-covid. I'm sure it's gotten worse.

Remembering multiplication tables takes practice. When my kids were in ES, they played multiplication games at home because the teachers hardly ever assigned HW. They are both now in HS, straight As in math, always 90%+ile in MAP.

Not all parents have the means to get their kids practice math books or play multiplication games with them at home, so yes, the teachers need to provide some HW.

I realize that people like you don't want teachers to give out HW because they feel it's racist because certain groups don't have parents who can help. I also didn't have any help from my parents. They didn't speak English. But, they pushed me to get good grades and that meant I did my HW.

gr.. quote fix.

Yes, it's not effective when the kids don't do the HW, and when teachers give them 50% for a lame attempt at doing the HW, if even an attempt.

Kids who get tutored in math probably aren't the ones who DON'T meet the benchmark. Why? Repetition.

FWIW, neither of my kids are tutored but I did get a Singapore math book when they were in ES and had them do a few pages every so often. Even this level of repetition and practice helps.

I volunteered in one of my DC's so called advanced math track class, and oh boy, some of the kids barely knew their multiplication tables. And this was pre-covid. I'm sure it's gotten worse.

Remembering multiplication tables takes practice. When my kids were in ES, they played multiplication games at home because the teachers hardly ever assigned HW. They are both now in HS, straight As in math, always 90%+ile in MAP.

Not all parents have the means to get their kids practice math books or play multiplication games with them at home, so yes, the teachers need to provide some HW.

I realize that people like you don't want teachers to give out HW because they feel it's racist because certain groups don't have parents who can help. I also didn't have any help from my parents. They didn't speak English. But, they pushed me to get good grades and that meant I did my HW.

You can get free workbooks online or cheat at dollar tree. Mcps offers free tutoring now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still the best public school system in the nation and significantly stronger than top area privates in STEM

Not even close on either statement. But they pay you to write garbage. Well done!

DP
No private school in the area can even come close to MCPS when it comes to STEM. That's a fact.
MCPS is still the best large school system in the nation.

Data from MCPS shows dramatic drops in elementary school students’ math and English test scores.

Literacy readiness dropped 35% for second graders from the 2018-2019 to 2020-2021 schools years, the data shows. Math readiness for fifth graders was down 25%.

Literacy was down for Black second graders by 38%. Hispanic second graders had a 46% drop.

Actually no. They are surpassing benchmark for literacy and are closing in on the math benchmark. They are catching up on the pandemic loss.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/09/23/montomgery-county-student-test-scores/

From WTOP, in case one cannot read it from the post. This report has been out since September but never discussed here because it doesn't fit DCUM narrative.
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/09/montgomery-co-schools-exceed-literacy-expectations-but-miss-target-for-math/

So, is there data showing that scores have improved since September? What is your point?

DP.. the point is that math instruction isn't up to par, probably because they don't give out enough HW for the kids to review. Math requires practice. They have about 30min in class to learn the material *and* do the classwork. That's not enough time. They need more math HW. Even 20min most days would help. Reading also requires practice, but kids get that practice in other classes like social studies/history, even science. They aren't getting enough math practice.

Academic data presented Thursday to the county’s board of education showed that roughly 72% of students met literacy standards, exceeding Montgomery County Public Schools’ target of 66%.

But for math, 61% of students met the county’s math standards, just short of its goal of 64%.

30 mins??? What school is this? Math and ELA are the largest blocks within the school day at the elementary level. They take up huge amounts of time. Social Studies and Science get like one day a week(sadly) and then usually during certain intervals.

Do you have kids in MCPS? MCPS does not allow for differentiation in ES in the name of Equity. So, each teacher has about 4-5 Math groups and 4-5 Language Arts groups in their classroom of 26 kids.

The teacher can only really spend about 10 minutes with each group. Your kid is lucky if he/she gets 30 minutes of direct Math instruction from his/her teacher.

Most of the time is spent on ‘independent work’ or random Math apps online.

Agree that the lack of Social Studies and Science in ES is sad. MCPS pretty much ignores Science in ES.

This was our experience.

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Anonymous wrote:Just clicked on the link. Thanks for posting. Most people make really good points. Unfortunately, our BOE and MCPS leadership don’t care.

Smaller class sizes and better discipline sounds like common requests that I think, everyone could get behind. Why can’t MCPS start there?

Except that costs money and a tax hike needed to pay for this will mostly go to create more central office jobs.

The bottom line is MCPS is about the same or even better than years past, the demographics of the county are what has changed. That has an impact on standardized test scores but doesn't mean you can't get a great education. People just need to accept and adapt instead of focusing on a past that never really existed.

True. The demographics of Montgomery County have greatly changed over the past decade and that has had an influence on MCPS.

But that will continue to be the case. And the school system faces many challenges as a direct result of these changing demographics. Doesn’t look promising for MCPS.

School choice coming to VA, hopefully MCPS families are not that stupid.

Vouchers for religious schools are a scam to redirect public tax money into churches that pay no taxes.

They are double-dipping on their tax exempt status.

MCPS is a large school system it has tons of needs nothing is perfect. Parents need to be involved. If you don't feel your kid is getting a good education in MCPS then go back to school. Because every kid I know that has graduated has been successful in college in the sense the reason students fall out have nothing to do with what they did not learn at MCPS.

This thread is full of idiots.

Don’t worry. School choice will never come to Montgomery County. Voters and our trusty Democrat politicians will be sure of that.

You only get the privilege of ‘school choice’ if you are wealthy and can afford private school.

MCPS did the charter school experiment back in 2012ish and it failed spectaculary. I'm convinced MCPS knew it would be a major cluster, and that's why they approved it.

One charter school is an experiment?

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Anonymous wrote:Grow some goddman thick skin. YES, changing demographics absolutely have affected school quality for the worse. I'm sorry you cannot handle the truth. When you import thousands of students from 3rs world countries who cannot speak a lick of English, you will absolutely being down school quality when millions of dollars and inordinate amounts of time have to be spent on remdial classes and basic English work students should have mastered a decade later. It is a brutal fact of reality. All of STEM uses English as a standard. All rigorous course material in science and mathematics must use English. It doesn't matter if you're in Japan, China, France, or the US. If you want a rigorous education in science and math, it has to be in English. The fact that we have to still teach basic English in high school and middle school is a MASSIVE drag. Even the Chinese publish top research articles in English. We shouldn't be spending millions of dollars and inordinate amounts of time teaching English in a country that uses English as the primary language for everything.

Depends on how you define "school quality" doesn't it? I define "school quality" as "quality of education for the actual students who attend the school".

There's also the issue that students who were born here weren't "imported" from anywhere, they were born here.

There have been many years when we did, in fact "import" an entire high school's worth of students, many who were unaccompanied.

[Anonymous]

Huge number of students cannot read

Special Ed students do not have qualified teachers, and are not getting the education they are entitled to

Teachers leaving at record rates (nationwide, not just MCPS), and there are not enough new teachers to replace them

Schools are a mess, and so many are in denial.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Still the best public school system in the nation and significantly stronger than top area privates in STEM

The same poster who sent her kids to Blair and has no clue what is going on in area privates. Same post going on for years...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It wouldn't be a new year in DCUM land if private shools parents and NoVa folks didn't start with their annual MCPS bash-fest.

Keep your head in the sand. One day your kid will hate you for giving them a terrible education.

So you don't have kids in MCPS, why are you posting here?

Just like they tell people when taxes go up to pay for school... EVERYONE benefits from public schools and all citizens have the right to scrutinize their performance.