interesting discussion regarding abysmal decline of MoCo schools

[Anonymous]

OMG the comments

[Anonymous]

Regardless of the demographics, they don't provide enough interventions for K-1st grade students struggling with reading and the basics. They let the kids fail and only superficially help in later ES when its to late.

They need to bring back more structure, text books, teach the basics in terms of spelling, grammar, and math facts and have accountability with both the teachers and students. My kids have read one book this entire school year. Most school years they read two books at best. It's absurd. They do work a lot with writing skills, but that doesn't help kids struggling with the basics.

They need to get rid of all the fluff in the curriculum, the group projects, the constant group discussion and the repeated health education and other classes that teach the same stuff over and over again.

[Anonymous]

I just don't see how parents and/or teachers would be able to affect change.

[Anonymous]

FWIW, Arlington Public Schools in the same boat. It's shocking how abrupt and dramatic the decline is

[Anonymous]

The title of this thread is not what's being discussed in the reddit discussion.

[Anonymous]

This is not a MCPS issue it’s a U.S. issue because we want to test and measure every little thing which takes time away from actual instruction. Parents want Mercedes level education but want to pay Hyundai standard level prices. Education requires investment in teacher training, teacher salary, and in actual schools and students. Further, schools do WAAY more than just focus on education including feeding and connection with social services for kids. They have unfounded mandates like I.D.E.A.

When we remove the politics of the above and address them as though our population matters, we’ll see change. Until then, people will continue complaining and believing that Charter schools or Private schools can be the answer, only to determine that’s not a panacea. Hi

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Regardless of the demographics, they don't provide enough interventions for K-1st grade students struggling with reading and the basics. They let the kids fail and only superficially help in later ES when its to late.

They need to bring back more structure, text books, teach the basics in terms of spelling, grammar, and math facts and have accountability with both the teachers and students. My kids have read one book this entire school year. Most school years they read two books at best. It's absurd. They do work a lot with writing skills, but that doesn't help kids struggling with the basics.

They need to get rid of all the fluff in the curriculum, the group projects, the constant group discussion and the repeated health education and other classes that teach the same stuff over and over again.

The quality of education follows the incentive structure.

[Anonymous]

There’s a lot of talk of discipline, or lack thereof, in that thread. It’s evident that there was previously massive disparate impact in suspension and expulsion rates. So the solution appears not to expel anyone anymore, or really try to enforce discipline, and the results are degrading public schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Regardless of the demographics, they don't provide enough interventions for K-1st grade students struggling with reading and the basics. They let the kids fail and only superficially help in later ES when its to late.

They need to bring back more structure, text books, teach the basics in terms of spelling, grammar, and math facts and have accountability with both the teachers and students. My kids have read one book this entire school year. Most school years they read two books at best. It's absurd. They do work a lot with writing skills, but that doesn't help kids struggling with the basics.

They need to get rid of all the fluff in the curriculum, the group projects, the constant group discussion and the repeated health education and other classes that teach the same stuff over and over again.

MCPS needs to prepare students to succeed in the 20th century workforce!

[Anonymous]

Publics are trash everywhere yuck

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Publics are trash everywhere yuck

Not at all. Small rich public districts that pay for the schools via property taxes can spend well over 30 grand per pupil. They cost a fortune and you get what you pay for including high quality faculty and administration.

[Anonymous]

MCPS spends 16K and change per pupil.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Publics are trash everywhere yuck

Not at all. Small rich public districts that pay for the schools via property taxes can spend well over 30 grand per pupil. They cost a fortune and you get what you pay for including high quality faculty and administration.

MCPS spends a ton of money per pupil. I’d have to find the stat, but MCPS is well-funded. The BOE even admitted it!

It’s just that MCPs wastes a TON of money on useless Central Office positions and useless initiatives that don’t directly benefit students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Publics are trash everywhere yuck

Not at all. Small rich public districts that pay for the schools via property taxes can spend well over 30 grand per pupil. They cost a fortune and you get what you pay for including high quality faculty and administration.

MCPS spends a ton of money per pupil. I’d have to find the stat, but MCPS is well-funded. The BOE even admitted it!

It’s just that MCPs wastes a TON of money on useless Central Office positions and useless initiatives that don’t directly benefit students.

MCPS. 16k per pupil

Syossett public schools outside of NYC. 32K per pupil

Property taxes are sky high to have that kind of school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Publics are trash everywhere yuck

Not at all. Small rich public districts that pay for the schools via property taxes can spend well over 30 grand per pupil. They cost a fortune and you get what you pay for including high quality faculty and administration.

This. Think: Scarsdale.