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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Still the best public school system in the nation and significantly stronger than top area privates in STEM[/quote]

Not even close on either statement.  But they pay you to write garbage. Well done![/quote]
DP
No private school in the area can even come close to MCPS when it comes to STEM. That's a fact.
MCPS is still the best large school system in the nation.[/quote]

[b]Data from MCPS shows dramatic drops in elementary school students’ math and English test scores[/b].

Literacy readiness dropped 35% for second graders from the 2018-2019 to 2020-2021 schools years, the data shows. Math readiness for fifth graders was down 25%.

Literacy was down for Black second graders by 38%. Hispanic second graders had a 46% drop. [/quote]
Actually no. They are surpassing benchmark for literacy and are closing in on the math benchmark.  They are catching up on the pandemic loss.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/09/23/montomgery-county-student-test-scores/[/quote]
From WTOP, in case one cannot read it from the post. This report has been out since September but never discussed here because it doesn't fit DCUM narrative.
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/09/montgomery-co-schools-exceed-literacy-expectations-but-miss-target-for-math/[/quote]

So, is there data showing that scores have improved since September?  What is your point? [/quote]
DP.. the point is that math instruction isn't up to par, probably because they don't give out enough HW for the kids to review. Math requires practice.  They have about 30min in class to learn the material *and* do the classwork.  That's not enough time.  They need more math HW. Even 20min most days would help.  Reading also requires practice, but kids get that practice in other classes like social studies/history, even science. They aren't getting enough math practice.

[quote]Academic data presented Thursday to the county’s board of education showed that roughly 72% of students met literacy standards, exceeding Montgomery County Public Schools’ target of 66%.

But for math, 61% of students met the county’s math standards, just short of its goal of 64%.[/quote][/quote]

I think we can all agree that assigning homework is not an equitable way to educate.

So giving homework assignments is not, and can not be, the answer in Montgomery county. Period. [/quote]

We should all agree that homework in elementary school is not an EFFECTIVE way to educate, but apparently we don't, so we keep getting foolish troll-ey posts like the previous one.[/quote]
Yes, it's not effective when the kids don't do the HW, and when teachers give them 50% for a lame attempt at doing the HW, if even an attempt.

Kids who get tutored in math probably aren't the ones who meet the benchmark. Why? Repetition.

FWIW, neither of my kids are tutored but I did get a Singapore math book when they were in ES and had them do a few pages every so often. Even this level of repetition and practice helps.

I volunteered in one of my DC's so called advanced math track class, and oh boy, some of the kids barely knew their multiplication tables.  And this was pre-covid. I'm sure it's gotten worse.

Remembering multiplication tables takes practice. When my kids were in ES, they played multiplication games at home because the teachers hardly ever assigned HW.  They are both now in HS, straight As in math, always 90%+ile in MAP.

Not all parents have the means to get their kids practice math books or play multiplication games with them at home, so yes, the teachers need to provide some HW.

I realize that people like you don't want teachers to give out HW because they feel it's racist because certain groups don't have parents who can help.  I also didn't have any help from my parents. They didn't speak English. But, they pushed me to get good grades and that meant I did my HW.[/quote]
gr.. quote fix.

Yes, it's not effective when the kids don't do the HW, and when teachers give them 50% for a lame attempt at doing the HW, if even an attempt.

Kids who get tutored in math probably aren't the ones who DON'T meet the benchmark. Why? Repetition.

FWIW, neither of my kids are tutored but I did get a Singapore math book when they were in ES and had them do a few pages every so often. Even this level of repetition and practice helps.

I volunteered in one of my DC's so called advanced math track class, and oh boy, some of the kids barely knew their multiplication tables.  And this was pre-covid. I'm sure it's gotten worse.

Not all parents have the means to get their kids practice math books or play multiplication games with them at home, so yes, the teachers need to provide some HW.

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