VA Tech ED - results

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Deferred from Nova HS 4.1 w, 1450 SAT, lots of ECs, white male, applied to Pamplin
Afraid we are on the deferred/waitlist/deny train.

So Va Tech is harder to get into than William & Mary? I just read the William & Mary ED thread and almost all the accepted stats are around 4.1 or 4.2 weighted with lower SAT. Some 4.0 weighted.

The demand for VT ComSci/Eng. is greater than the demand for W&M (anything). Yes, there are people who really prefer what W&M offers, but their numbers are significantly less than the number of people who want a CS/Eng degree from VT.

The world is being taken over (has been taken over) by CS people. I don't even thing Engineering is really very hot. If you look at what the TJHSST graduates are planning to study in college it seems that the VAST VAST majority are all planning to study CS in college. You don't see hardly any actual Engineering majors, doctors, Physics, Chemistry. It's scary and depressing that the kids who would have been going into those majors 15 yrs ago are almost ALL pursuing computer science now. We still need people in the hard sciences (and the soft sciences too!).

CS it's where it's at.

Tech jobs will be around.

DP. You sure about that? Have you heard about all the layoffs in tech fields? Luckily, VT offers so many other majors, in addition to tech.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/09/us/tech-immigrant-workers-visas.html
https://www.npr.org/2022/11/14/1136659617/tech-layoffs-amazon-meta-twitter
https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/hyucevxdi
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/17/amid-mass-layoffs-the-big-tech-dream-job-is-losing-its-luster.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Deferred from Nova HS 4.1 w, 1450 SAT, lots of ECs, white male, applied to Pamplin
Afraid we are on the deferred/waitlist/deny train.

So Va Tech is harder to get into than William & Mary? I just read the William & Mary ED thread and almost all the accepted stats are around 4.1 or 4.2 weighted with lower SAT. Some 4.0 weighted.

The demand for VT ComSci/Eng. is greater than the demand for W&M (anything). Yes, there are people who really prefer what W&M offers, but their numbers are significantly less than the number of people who want a CS/Eng degree from VT.

The world is being taken over (has been taken over) by CS people. I don't even thing Engineering is really very hot. If you look at what the TJHSST graduates are planning to study in college it seems that the VAST VAST majority are all planning to study CS in college. You don't see hardly any actual Engineering majors, doctors, Physics, Chemistry. It's scary and depressing that the kids who would have been going into those majors 15 yrs ago are almost ALL pursuing computer science now. We still need people in the hard sciences (and the soft sciences too!).

CS it's where it's at.

Tech jobs will be around.

DP. You sure about that? Have you heard about all the layoffs in tech fields? Luckily, VT offers so many other majors, in addition to tech.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/09/us/tech-immigrant-workers-visas.html
https://www.npr.org/2022/11/14/1136659617/tech-layoffs-amazon-meta-twitter
https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/hyucevxdi
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/17/amid-mass-layoffs-the-big-tech-dream-job-is-losing-its-luster.html

Everything is cyclical.

FAANG jobs might be suffering a hiring slowdown, however CS majors will be in demand across almost all business sectors, healthcare, retail, etc. The future demand trend is still rather high relative to other jobs.

Data science, IT, cyber security and the ancillary majors too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wasn’t able to find it online. But if you go to VT school specific information sessions and ask they will tell you the cutoff to submit for SAT for the program you want. Could never get UVA or WM to do that but VT will. They will also give you the median SAT etc. if you ask. GPA they aren’t going to be able to answer in a meaningful fashion because high schools vary.

My DD applied early action to criminology without a test score - not a good test taker but didn't qualify for extra circumstances on the SAT or ACT. School counselors were very optimistic about her chances given all the other factors outside the test score.

[Anonymous]

Numbers don't lie and are a lot more informative than whatever opinions people have on this board:

https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Numbers don't lie and are a lot more informative than whatever opinions people have on this board:

https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

Interesting data. However, for VT, many kids in my child's school were deferred or denied last year with GPA and SAT way above the 75 percentile. Maybe they were deferred because they were over-qualified?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Numbers don't lie and are a lot more informative than whatever opinions people have on this board:

https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

Interesting data. However, for VT, many kids in my child's school were deferred or denied last year with GPA and SAT way above the 75 percentile. Maybe they were deferred because they were over-qualified?

That is what some people on DCUM claim is yield protection. Others claim it is due to some majors that are more selective than others. I think evidence is lacking on both counts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Numbers don't lie and are a lot more informative than whatever opinions people have on this board:

https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

Interesting data. However, for VT, many kids in my child's school were deferred or denied last year with GPA and SAT way above the 75 percentile. Maybe they were deferred because they were over-qualified?

That is what some people on DCUM claim is yield protection. Others claim it is due to some majors that are more selective than others. I think evidence is lacking on both counts.

+1
Sadly, those are the rationales parents tell themselves when their kids simply don’t get in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Deferred from Nova HS 4.1 w, 1450 SAT, lots of ECs, white male, applied to Pamplin
Afraid we are on the deferred/waitlist/deny train.

So Va Tech is harder to get into than William & Mary? I just read the William & Mary ED thread and almost all the accepted stats are around 4.1 or 4.2 weighted with lower SAT. Some 4.0 weighted.

The demand for VT ComSci/Eng. is greater than the demand for W&M (anything). Yes, there are people who really prefer what W&M offers, but their numbers are significantly less than the number of people who want a CS/Eng degree from VT.

The world is being taken over (has been taken over) by CS people. I don't even thing Engineering is really very hot. If you look at what the TJHSST graduates are planning to study in college it seems that the VAST VAST majority are all planning to study CS in college. You don't see hardly any actual Engineering majors, doctors, Physics, Chemistry. It's scary and depressing that the kids who would have been going into those majors 15 yrs ago are almost ALL pursuing computer science now. We still need people in the hard sciences (and the soft sciences too!).

CS it's where it's at.

Tech jobs will be around.

DP. You sure about that? Have you heard about all the layoffs in tech fields? Luckily, VT offers so many other majors, in addition to tech.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/09/us/tech-immigrant-workers-visas.html
https://www.npr.org/2022/11/14/1136659617/tech-layoffs-amazon-meta-twitter
https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/hyucevxdi
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/17/amid-mass-layoffs-the-big-tech-dream-job-is-losing-its-luster.html

When I just started to work little over 20 years ago, there was the biggest tech bubble pop in the history called dotcom bubble.
Look what has happened after that.

[Anonymous]

It is an objective fact that some majors are more selective than others, something a kid and their parents should be aware of. Basic math. The “evidence” is not lacking. Numbers are numbers, and they show what they show. Gather as much information as you can about your high school and the program you want. And you can have a decent idea of what your chances are. There are no guarantees, but you can have a decent idea of the odds. Going into major life decisions blind of information is a strategy I guess but not one I would recommend. Throwing up your hands after a decision doesn’t go your way and chalking it up to the universe is also a strategy I guess. Understanding probability would probably be more helpful. Sometimes an admission decision was a bad beat, knowing that is helpful to many people, and it isn’t coping. It is an objective acceptance of reality and a representation of the truth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is an objective fact that some majors are more selective than others, something a kid and their parents should be aware of. Basic math. The “evidence” is not lacking. Numbers are numbers, and they show what they show. Gather as much information as you can about your high school and the program you want. And you can have a decent idea of what your chances are. There are no guarantees, but you can have a decent idea of the odds. Going into major life decisions blind of information is a strategy I guess but not one I would recommend. Throwing up your hands after a decision doesn’t go your way and chalking it up to the universe is also a strategy I guess. Understanding probability would probably be more helpful. Sometimes an admission decision was a bad beat, knowing that is helpful to many people, and it isn’t coping. It is an objective acceptance of reality and a representation of the truth.

Clueless parent of jr here. If I wanted to deep dive into Va Tech, majors, chances of admission, etc etc, data and any good chat level (CC?), could you recommend a couple useful sources? (DS is VA resident, at an independent school, with about a 4.0 in "normal" rigorous schedule (will have AP Calc AB senior yr, for example) and SATs currently looking weak -- may eventually hover around/below 1400). Reading tea leaves now, but feeling Va Tech would be his only/best fit VA school. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

We are in !

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DS deferred for engineering- completely bummed. Other friends deferred too. Only one friend got in who had lower scores but first time college family. I have a feeling this will be a soft rejection b/c he’s from a high performing school and a lot of higher stats kids will apply EA as a safety. Oh well - bummed for him.

We are in for Engineering !! Whoo Hoo !! DD soooo excited. Chance of a lifetime. What a great day !!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Numbers don't lie and are a lot more informative than whatever opinions people have on this board:

https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

Interesting data. However, for VT, many kids in my child's school were deferred or denied last year with GPA and SAT way above the 75 percentile. Maybe they were deferred because they were over-qualified?

Two years ago, we had a higher stats than the 75th percentile who was deferred by Va Tech and ultimately went elsewhere. Happy and it worked out just fine.

The next year our slightly lower stats kid was accepted (same major) and chose to attend Va Tech. The difference between the two: The second kid had higher academic rigor in math and took an AP class in their major junior year so they applied with a grade in that class. First kid was taking the AP class in their major senior year, so no grade.

And the second kid really focused on the essays.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Numbers don't lie and are a lot more informative than whatever opinions people have on this board:

https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

So for most of the schools, about half did not submit an SAT or ACT score? Class of 22 had plenty of opportunity to take one, unlike the class of 21. Not submitting a test score shows they either took the test but did poorly, or knew they would do poorly so didn't even want to submit it.

[Anonymous]

^sorry, that should have said "knew they would do poorly so didn't even want to TAKE it."