Harry + Meghan series really well done

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Anonymous wrote:I was really bummed by M throwing Kate under the bus. I understand that she might have felt Kate was formal, standoffish, not as fun 6 years ago when they met, but now in hindsight, of course there were stark differences: M. was living a carefree life, loved her job on her show, was a minor celeb but not at all famous enough to be hounded or lose any freedoms, had her life of friends and travel and yoga. Kate at that time was married to the future King and was living a life of service, had 2 young children, had been married for years by then, had been ripped apart by the press....of course she wasn't going to be in ripped jeans and bare feet and totes chill. I mean they were in 2 very different stages of life.

I just think by now as a mom and a wife and seeing what the royal life is like she would be more understanding. Including that remark seemed super petty.

Likewise, Kate could have taken Meghan under her wing, knowing what she would inevitably experience. She’d experienced the waity Kaity years, etc. In effect, she threw Meghan under the bus early on

No, she needed to make sure Meghan was worth the effort. Kate was right to wait it out.

And Harry was within his rights to decide that he didn't want to live a life where you have to prove you're worth the wait to express kindness and welcome to. Its always been a vipers nest, Kate figured out how to survive in it. Meghan and Harry didn't want to anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:So you mean to tell me that even though the intrusion of the press and media was integral to their story and a major part of why they were forced to leave they couldn’t find enough of their own footage to use? They just had to source stock footage to illustrate their point?

No they are telling you that in a major production like this when editors are in the editing room if they don't like what someone provided they just splice in some stock footage. It isn't like they went to the H&M team to ask them about this, they would have just looked up 'footage with a lot of cameras' in whatever giant pile of footage they have access too and spliced it in.

Oh right. Because even though this is their telling, they didn’t have anything to do with this wildly misleading part of it. Just like everything else, they are never to blame when the media is portraying them a certain way that turns out to be false. Always someone else’s fault. I’m beginning to see a pattern here…

I think they actually gave up editorial control here? I read they wanted to walk some things back and netflix wouldn't let them actually. But regardless, if you think they were in the weeds selecting b roll for trailers you are hilariously uninformed about how that process works. This is no one's fault, you are the only person who thinks it is bad. It is just a standard process and a nothingburger.

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Who knows. They try very hard to cultivate an image. The lovey stuff reminds me of all the couples that don’t make it. When you call your own life a “great love story” it’s very weird even if you are madly in love. A”great love story” is how someone describes someone else’s story in history.

Christ, my own love story had more adventure and passion. I want set up on Instagram.

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I have pairs of socks that are older than this relationship. They conveniently seemed to capture all the right and most romantic moments of their lives. I got engaged, married and birthed two babies during the age of the iPhone and social media and have no where near as much perfectly cultivated footage of my great love story. I guess I was too busy living in the moment to think about taking an adorable photo to use less than 6 years later to prove to the world how magical and in love I am with my (literal) prince of a husband. But of course, I wasn't a young social media influencer or anything when I got married. Both my husband and I were a bit more mature given that we were in our mid-thirties and had been in significant relationships before ... oh wait ....

Let's see where this great love story is in 15 to 20 years.

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Who knows. They try very hard to cultivate an image. The lovey stuff reminds me of all the couples that don’t make it. When you call your own life a “great love story” it’s very weird even if you are madly in love. A”great love story” is how someone describes someone else’s story in history.

Christ, my own love story had more adventure and passion. I want set up on Instagram.

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I have pairs of socks that are older than this relationship. They conveniently seemed to capture all the right and most romantic moments of their lives. I got engaged, married and birthed two babies during the age of the iPhone and social media and have no where near as much perfectly cultivated footage of my great love story. I guess I was too busy living in the moment to think about taking an adorable photo to use less than 6 years later to prove to the world how magical and in love I am with my (literal) prince of a husband. But of course, I wasn't a young social media influencer or anything when I got married. Both my husband and I were a bit more mature given that we were in our mid-thirties and had been in significant relationships before ... oh wait ....

Let's see where this great love story is in 15 to 20 years.

I agree with what both of you are saying generally but I don't know how I would react if I had to read unending news coverage about how I was an evil manipulative witch who coerced my husband to marry me and steal him from his family. It isn't like they were just like this, it is in response to the narrative that has been woven around them. And explaining themselves is just giving it more attention but you really don't know what you would do if the whole world was lying about you.

Like imagine your whole town was posting on the town facebook page and the PTA newsletters about how your marriage was a farce? That would get to anyone. And I think Harry has been struggling with the narrative superseding his actual experiences and thoughts his entire life and this was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

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Anonymous wrote:I was really bummed by M throwing Kate under the bus. I understand that she might have felt Kate was formal, standoffish, not as fun 6 years ago when they met, but now in hindsight, of course there were stark differences: M. was living a carefree life, loved her job on her show, was a minor celeb but not at all famous enough to be hounded or lose any freedoms, had her life of friends and travel and yoga. Kate at that time was married to the future King and was living a life of service, had 2 young children, had been married for years by then, had been ripped apart by the press....of course she wasn't going to be in ripped jeans and bare feet and totes chill. I mean they were in 2 very different stages of life.

I just think by now as a mom and a wife and seeing what the royal life is like she would be more understanding. Including that remark seemed super petty.

Likewise, Kate could have taken Meghan under her wing, knowing what she would inevitably experience. She’d experienced the waity Kaity years, etc. In effect, she threw Meghan under the bus early on

To be fair, Kate had 3 little kids at the time. And Meghan didn't seem to want help - she did reject the help offered from Sophie.

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Anonymous wrote:When she talked about how she realized Will and Kate were very formal both inside and outside, I laughed. I can totally see that. She said she met them barefoot wearing jeans thinking they could all relax and be themselves behind closed doors, but that wasn’t true for Will and Kate. But it very much seems to be how Harry and his close friends are. They have plenty of photos and videos of them with Harry’s friends acting normal. Sometimes you just fit better with the family you choose, not the one you’re born into.

Guess she imagined Kate and she will be like two squealing-bouncing-kissing-hands-up-in-the-air-OMG-new-BFFs Desperate Housewives

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Anonymous wrote:When she talked about how she realized Will and Kate were very formal both inside and outside, I laughed. I can totally see that. She said she met them barefoot wearing jeans thinking they could all relax and be themselves behind closed doors, but that wasn’t true for Will and Kate. But it very much seems to be how Harry and his close friends are. They have plenty of photos and videos of them with Harry’s friends acting normal. Sometimes you just fit better with the family you choose, not the one you’re born into.

Guess she imagined Kate and she will be like two squealing-bouncing-kissing-hands-up-in-the-air-OMG-new-BFFs Desperate Housewives

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Anonymous wrote:When she talked about how she realized Will and Kate were very formal both inside and outside, I laughed. I can totally see that. She said she met them barefoot wearing jeans thinking they could all relax and be themselves behind closed doors, but that wasn’t true for Will and Kate. But it very much seems to be how Harry and his close friends are. They have plenty of photos and videos of them with Harry’s friends acting normal. Sometimes you just fit better with the family you choose, not the one you’re born into.

Guess she imagined Kate and she will be like two squealing-bouncing-kissing-hands-up-in-the-air-OMG-new-BFFs Desperate Housewives

Oh for god's sake expecting to meet your BF's family and not be stiff and weird is not some crazy expectation. I actually understand why Will and Kate WOULD be stiff with her but I also understand why that would be very weird with for MM. Especially since the people she had met in his life up to that point had not been stiff and weird. There is a LOT of middle ground between a teenage girl sleepover vibe and feeling like you're meeting the CEO of your husband's company.

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Anonymous wrote:I was really bummed by M throwing Kate under the bus. I understand that she might have felt Kate was formal, standoffish, not as fun 6 years ago when they met, but now in hindsight, of course there were stark differences: M. was living a carefree life, loved her job on her show, was a minor celeb but not at all famous enough to be hounded or lose any freedoms, had her life of friends and travel and yoga. Kate at that time was married to the future King and was living a life of service, had 2 young children, had been married for years by then, had been ripped apart by the press....of course she wasn't going to be in ripped jeans and bare feet and totes chill. I mean they were in 2 very different stages of life.

I just think by now as a mom and a wife and seeing what the royal life is like she would be more understanding. Including that remark seemed super petty.

Likewise, Kate could have taken Meghan under her wing, knowing what she would inevitably experience. She’d experienced the waity Kaity years, etc. In effect, she threw Meghan under the bus early on

No, she needed to make sure Meghan was worth the effort. Kate was right to wait it out.

Lol. Tell me your family is toxic without telling me your family is toxic.

Turns out Kate was right so I don’t think you’re making the point you think you are.

About what? About Meghan? Kind of a self fulfilling prophecy there. About the institution? Yes that is how she survived it. But its ok if other people don't want to have to live like that, and that isn't an indictment of Kate to say that.

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Anonymous wrote:I was really bummed by M throwing Kate under the bus. I understand that she might have felt Kate was formal, standoffish, not as fun 6 years ago when they met, but now in hindsight, of course there were stark differences: M. was living a carefree life, loved her job on her show, was a minor celeb but not at all famous enough to be hounded or lose any freedoms, had her life of friends and travel and yoga. Kate at that time was married to the future King and was living a life of service, had 2 young children, had been married for years by then, had been ripped apart by the press....of course she wasn't going to be in ripped jeans and bare feet and totes chill. I mean they were in 2 very different stages of life.

I just think by now as a mom and a wife and seeing what the royal life is like she would be more understanding. Including that remark seemed super petty.

Not only that, she was very pregnant when they met and immediately post-partum during the wedding preparations. Do you think Megan asked her how she was feeling?

Were you there? Wow you people are so quick to fall for the white women crocodile tears. And I'm a white woman. Open your eyes.

We have the word of Meghan who’s prone to bending the truth. And she knows Kate can’t defend herself so it’s a pretty cheap shot.

And Meghan herself said Kate apologized for whatever happened and sent flowers. She had given birth *3 weeks prior* and somehow she's the antichrist??

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why the niece couldn’t come to the wedding. There is no way someone could convince me not to invite someone I supposedly was so close to. Please, are we supposed to believe this nonsense.

The niece was brought in to the documentary to show that Meghan has a relationship with one family member. Given the brouhaha around other family members, it is not surprising that Meghan was easily persuaded not to invite her. The revelation about the niece is the same reason Meghan’s mother did the extensive interview. They have to show that Harry has a family now that he has left his birth family. It is a classic PR move to rewrite family dynamics.

I say this as someone with a half sibling from my fathers first marriage (who I am actually close with)…but why would she have any sort of relationship with Samantha or Thomas? They have a gigantic age gap, never lived under the same roof, and Doria was not really even married to their dad for that long. They’re really not “siblings” in a meaningful way. Add to that that Samantha seems like a terrible person who lost custody of all three of her children…when it is so hard for that to even happen to moms. Thomas Sr and honestly Doria don’t seem that great either (you never talked to your biracial child about race….wtf).

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I have only watched the first episode. I don't think this series will change anyone's opinion of them. Those who like them will continue to like them and those who don't will find new reasons to dislike them.

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Anonymous wrote:I have only watched the first episode. I don't think this series will change anyone's opinion of them. Those who like them will continue to like them and those who don't will find new reasons to dislike them.

As long as it's enough to earn their $100m, it's good.

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It's was so boring. They are boring. I watched 15 mins of it. zzzzzz. The Crown was better.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll add that it seems to me that both Charles and will have very bad emotional intelligence and couldn’t fix this when it started going south. The king and queen were both just too old (not sure what sort of skills they had to start with). And Harry just seems sort of impetuous. The family really needed someone with decent EQ and mediation skills and it seems like they just don’t have that.

Couldn’t that have been Meghan if she weren’t so hostile to the institution?

It is Kate. But she didn't seem to take to Meghan immediately, whether personality clash or just slow-to-warm. Also, Kate is British, so she helped the brothers connect but she's not going to intervene against their wishes.

Eh, a lot of people don't warm up to their future SIL or brother's girlfriends.

Plus M is an outsider, NOT b/c of her skin color but bc she's an American (doesn't understand or respect the nuances of Roylaty).

+1 the part about meeting them in ripped jeans and barefoot -- it's supposed to make M seem sympathetic and relatable, but who doesn't put in a bit of effort and thought about their company when trying to make a good impression on your BF's brother and SIL? And that's even apart from the fact that this is the BRF.

It's almost 2023. Designer ripped jeans are just as expensive as designer pants.

It's not about whether the clothes were expensive - I'm sure hers were. Would you wear them to church or a job interview? Or would you want to try to look somewhat "dressed up" esp when you can see what your BIL and SIL are like.

I see people with shorts and t-shirts at church.